@ zandora




Please give me info on quebec please nd how much in total did u spend in your whole process..


Congrats once more!

oluwaethan:


Dupyshoo,

I have been away to handle some jobs since submitting ourselves from the medicals.

I just got to know the worse as well.

That is why I asked about HIV too.

I really need help. If it is possible to switch my province to BC that would be great because from what I read in the article treatment is free and so CIC cannot say that treatment will be excessive demand on the medical system.

I need help.

That treatment is free further justifies the fact that it would be an excess demand on the economy. Treatment being free means that the government would fund 100% of the treatment via tax payer's money. It is this kind of situation CIC tries to avoid hence why they prohibit those ailments that would constitute excessive demand on the economy. BC is therefore a bad choice.

promzyphyno:
@ zandora




Please give me info on quebec please nd how much in total did u spend in your whole process..


Congrats once more!

I did not apply via Quebec, I applied via FSW express entry.

zandora:
I did not apply via Quebec, I applied via FSW express entry.

Okay...any idea about quebec?

promzyphyno:




Okay...any idea about quebec?

Read through this link.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/Quebec/index.asp

zandora:


That treatment is free further justifies the fact that it would be an excess demand on the economy. Treatment being free means that the government would fund 100% of the treatment via tax payer's money. It is this kind of situation CIC tries to avoid hence why they prohibit those ailments that would constitute excessive demand on the economy. BC is therefore a bad choice.

@Zandora,

Thank you. Didn't know that.

As a last resort, can I write to CIC and say that I would like to exclude/remove her from the application? Is that possible and what will the implication(s) be?

oluwaethan:


@Zandora,

Thank you. Didn't know that.

As a last resort, can I write to CIC and say that I would like to exclude/remove her from the application? Is that possible and what will the implication(s) be?

na wa for u...na ur wife be this so?

oluwaethan:


@Zandora,

Thank you. Didn't know that.

As a last resort, can I write to CIC and say that I would like to exclude/remove her from the application? Is that possible and what will the implication(s) be?

I have explained time and time again that no matter what you do, as long as you're still married she'll need to provide and pass her medicals before you're admissible to Canada. The only way to exclude her from your application and she not providing her medical exams is if you guys divorce.

zandora:


I have explained time and time again that no matter what you do, as long as you're still married she'll need to provide and pass her medicals before you're admissible to Canada. The only way to exclude her from your application and she not providing her medical exams is if you guys divorce.

Thank you Zandora

oluwaethan:


Thank you Zandora

Bro. I think you should defer everything until she is cleared. It seems to me her wellness should be first. EE, FSW, CA immigration etc. will always be there. Even if one advances in age, PNP will be another route. In my opinion, her wellness and other members of the family being around her is more important.
Please, the above are just my views and could well be taken with a pinch of salt.

Etfash:


Bro. I think you should defer everything until she is cleared. It seems to me her wellness should be first. EE, FSW, CA immigration etc. will always be there. Even if one advances in age, PNP will be another route. In my opinion, her wellness and other members of the family being around her is more important.
Please, the above are just my views and could well be taken with a pinch of salt.

Thank you. Etfash.

#difficultMoments

kosplateau:

na wa for u...na ur wife be this so?

.. The guy obviously loves canada more than his wife. . So desperate. ..

He isn't even keen on staying back to make sure his wife gets alright. .. He puts Canada over the wife's welfare


Oluwaethan, Please take care of your wife's ill health. . Canada isn't running away.. I understand your feelings but life should come first. ..

oluwaethan:


Thank you Zandora

oluwaethan,i know this is difficult,but i read your question in other forum relating to HIV,no need to change to TB on nairaland,This will let you get the right advice.Have read about HIV applicant who got their PR.

misleading question will lead to misleading answers.

thanks

zaraman:


oluwaethan,i know this is difficult,but i read your question in other forum relating to HIV,no need to change to TB on nairaland,This will let you get the right advice.Have read about HIV applicant who got their PR.

misleading question will lead to misleading answers.

thanks

Zaraman,

Thank you. I understand but it is not easy to post stuff like that about your wife. Nairaland is home and it is not that simple to post things like that oooh. I traveled came back to this shocker so I am not in the right frame of mind. I am sorry but I wish u understood my situation.

How did they go about it please.

MarvellousGod:
.. The guy obviously loves canada more than his wife. . So desperate. ..

He isn't even keen on staying back to make sure his wife gets alright. .. He puts Canada over the wife's welfare


Oluwaethan, Please take care of your wife's ill health. . Canada isn't running away.. I understand your feelings but life should come first. ..

MarvelousGod,

It is easy for you to say that. There is a child involved and we have decided to give this child the best opportunity by getting him into Canada.

oluwaethan:


Zaraman,

Thank you. I understand but it is not easy to post stuff like that about your wife. Nairaland is home and it is not that simple to post things like that oooh. I traveled came back to this shocker so I am not in the right frame of mind. I am sorry but I wish u understood my situation.

How did they go about it please.

i understand my brother,CIC cant just refuse your application they will always give room for you to explain things,be expecting a fairness letter soon.has she started any treatment? also i will advise redo the HIV test from another clinic just to be sure. cos in your response to the cic fairness letter,this are the kind of stuff you will have to explain to them,cost of her current medications and stuff.i will search for the thread and pm it to u, but i think you need a good canadian lawyer to help out here.it will be tough but still very possible.

oluwaethan:


MarvelousGod,

It is easy for you to say that. There is a child involved and we have decided to give this child the best opportunity by getting him into Canada.

Yeah, but how would you achieve that by abandoning the mum in Nigeria?

Just calm down ok? Try to sort your wife's health issue first... then do as zara has advised. .

All the best. .. I know this is a hard time for you

Yeah, but how would you achieve that by abandoning the mum in Nigeria?

Just calm down ok? Try to sort your wife's health issue first... then do as zara has advised. .

All the best. .. I know this is a hard time for you

Thank you.

zaraman:


i understand my brother,CIC cant just refuse your application they will always give room for you to explain things,be expecting a fairness letter soon.has she started any treatment? also i will advise redo the HIV test from another clinic just to be sure. cos in your response to the cic fairness letter,this are the kind of stuff you will have to explain to them,cost of her current medications and stuff.i will search for the thread and pm it to u, but i think you need a good canadian lawyer to help out here.it will be tough but still very possible.

Thank you so much for helping out.

She has started medication and I have looked at the generic version of her drugs in Canada using the Quebec formularly and price per year is around CAD 2700. So the crux of my argument will be that the cost would not exceed the current threshold of CAD 6,387 per year.

Again, at CAD 2700, I could self fund for about five and still provide the amount required for the proof of funds.

As an economic migrant I am hopeful that I would have secured employment by then and most like get her covered under my employer's plan which would likely extend to her. Or worst case scenario continue to self fund the cost of the medication.

What do you guyz think?

Good evening to you all.

oluwaethan:


MarvelousGod,

It is easy for you to say that. There is a child involved and we have decided to give this child the best opportunity by getting him into Canada.

Made enquiries for you only to discover the ailment wasn't what you claimed earlier. You may provide details regarding how and when you discovered(whether it is through a normal test or the Medicals you are doing for PR), how long you have to submit your medicals and what other family members(you and child) status is, I may then likely have an accurate response for you. Meanwhile, from the little I've gathered, it appears you can't leave her medicals out even if she's not following you. Also, feelers are that CIC sees other family members as potential health risks so, it might be more complicated than you presently know.

JesusDWay:


Made enquiries for you only to discover the ailment wasn't what you claimed earlier. You may provide details regarding how and when you discovered(whether it is through a normal test or the Medicals you are doing for PR), how long you have to submit your medicals and what other family members(you and child) status is, I may then likely have an accurate response for you. Meanwhile, from the little I've gathered, it appears you can't leave her medicals out even if she's not following you. Also, feelers are that CIC sees other family members as potential health risks so, it might be more complicated than you presently know.

Hello JesusDWay

We got to know during the medicals as part of the PR process. I am negative. So is the baby.

The medicals have been submitted and she has been asked to come back to see a specialist. I am sure that would be for the individualized assessment. All other tests came out clean.

She has started medication and the cost of her current regimen (using approved generics) in Canada will be CAD 2700 using the Quebec formularly. The current medical threshold is 6,387 per year. Can I argue that is does not constitute excessive demand coz it is nowhere close to the official threshold? I could also self fund for five years by which time i would have found a job and include her on the company sponsored plan. I also sure that by five years time most of the other medications would have their patents expiring and that will further drive prices down. Generics already account for about 60% of all prescriptions in Canada saving the government over 7 Billion on 2010 alone.

What do you think?

oluwaethan:


Hello JesusDWay

We got to know during the medicals as part of the PR process. I am negative. So is the baby.

The medicals have been submitted and she has been asked to come back to see a specialist. I am sure that would be for the individualized assessment. All other tests came out clean.

She has started medication and the cost of her current regimen (using approved generics) in Canada will be CAD 2700 using the Quebec formularly. The current medical threshold is 6,387 per year. Can I argue that is does not constitute excessive demand coz it is nowhere close to the official threshold? I could also self fund for five years by which time i would have found a job and include her on the company sponsored plan. I also sure that by five years time most of the other medications would have their patents expiring and that will further drive prices down. Generics already account for about 60% of all prescriptions in Canada saving the government over 7 Billion on 2010 alone.

What do you think?

But why are you comparing the costs using Quebec's or did you apply under Quebec skilled workers? You should compare the price with Federal prices and then if the amount is less than the threshold allowed explain this when replying the fairness letter you'll receive. Quebec is a different constituency than Federal.

zandora:


But why are you comparing the costs using Quebec's or did you apply under Quebec skilled workers? You should compare the price with Federal prices and then if the amount is less than the threshold allowed explain this when replying the fairness letter you'll receive. Quebec is a different constituency than Federal.

Dear Zandora,

The Government of Quebec publishes a complete list of what they are willing to pay; my understanding is that this in turn is based upon the actual negotiated prices of the Canadian Government. I have checked the formularly for Ontario and Alberta and the quotations are similar. I am sure it will be similar for most of the other provinces.

oluwaethan:


Dear Zandora,

The Government of Quebec publishes a complete list of what they are willing to pay; my understanding is that this in turn is based upon the actual negotiated prices of the Canadian Government. I have checked the formularly for Ontario and Alberta and the quotations are similar. I am sure it will be similar for most of the other provinces.

If you've checked it against the province you're going to reside and it's similar then that's okay. However it's better to explain in your letter that you've checked the prices against the province instead of against Quebec eventhough the prices may be the same in order to eliminate any confusion.

oluwaethan:


Dear Zandora,

The Government of Quebec publishes a complete list of what they are willing to pay; my understanding is that this in turn is based upon the actual negotiated prices of the Canadian Government. I have checked the formularly for Ontario and Alberta and the quotations are similar. I am sure it will be similar for most of the other provinces.

yes it is best to compare with the province u plan to reside which was stated in your application ,also the 2700cad ,i believe this is the current cost of medication but bear in mind cost of medication could increase at different stages so you have to consider this too.what is the cost of medication in a worst case scenario of an HIV patient,this should be considered too.I hope the 2700CAd is not based on the naira amount of drugs she uses now cos most of HIV drugs in africa are heavily subsidize by our govt and different international organisation,this may not be the case in canada.

zaraman:


yes it is best to compare with the province u plan to reside which was stated in your application ,also the 2700cad ,i believe this is the current cost of medication but bear in mind cost of medication could increase at different stages so you have to consider this too.what is the cost of medication in a worst case scenario of an HIV patient,this should be considered too.I hope the 2700CAd is not based on the naira amount of drugs she uses now cos most of HIV drugs in africa are heavily subsidize by our govt and different international organisation,this may not be the case in canada.

Zaraman and Zandora,

Good morning.

The CD4 count for a healthy HIV negative person is between 500 - 1500. Some experts quote 500 - 1600. My wife's CD4 count is 516.
The point is that her immune system is as strong as a "normal" person living without the disease.

CD4 cells (often called T-cells or T-helper cells) are a type of white blood cells that play a major role in protecting your body from infection. They send signals to activate your body’s immune response when they detect “intruders,” like viruses or bacteria.

That was before she started the medication; which will suppress the virus from replicating. And in essence increase her CD4 count and viral load which will make her immune system even stronger. The viral load could even be undetectable and make transmission to another person or to a baby (if she gets pregnant) extremely rare.

Patients will CD4 counts less than 350 are the ones that get sick and become susceptible to "opportunistic diseases" which further damages their immune system and make things complicated. And hence increase the cost of medication etc. This happens when the infection is not detected early.

Based on my research and her CD4 count, she would live a "normal" life and will not even show any symptoms of the disease if she continue to take her medication. The cost will be the same and she would not need any hospitalization etc. What she would need will be two or three labs a year to check her CD4 count and viral load to ensure that the drugs are working.

If you are in Canada and you are reading this please help me check how much it will cost to do a lab to check CD4 count and Viral Load. I will need some email,phone numbers or web address as proof to build a convincing case.

Thank you.

oluwaethan:


Zaraman and Zandora,

Good morning.

The CD4 count for a healthy HIV negative person is between 500 - 1500. Some experts quote 500 - 1600. My wife's CD4 count is 516.
The point is that her immune system is as strong as a "normal" person living without the disease.

CD4 cells (often called T-cells or T-helper cells) are a type of white blood cells that play a major role in protecting your body from infection. They send signals to activate your body’s immune response when they detect “intruders,” like viruses or bacteria.

That was before she started the medication; which will suppress the virus from replicating. And in essence increase her CD4 count and viral load which will make her immune system even stronger. The viral load could even be undetectable and make transmission to another person or to a baby (if she gets pregnant) extremely rare.

Patients will CD4 counts less than 350 are the ones that get sick and become susceptible to "opportunistic diseases" which further damages their immune system and make things complicated. And hence increase the cost of medication etc. This happens when the infection is not detected early.

Based on my research and her CD4 count, she would live a "normal" life and will not even show any symptoms of the disease if she continue to take her medication. The cost will be the same and she would not need any hospitalization etc. What she would need will be two or three labs a year to check her CD4 count and viral load to ensure that the drugs are working.

If you are in Canada and you are reading this please help me check how much it will cost to do a lab to check CD4 count and Viral Load. I will need some email,phone numbers or web address as proof to build a convincing case.

Thank you.

good then,you have a very good case,you will have to back up all this explanation with medical reports and a dr explaining all this point you made above.

there is a fairness letter thread on canada visa site.the thread will help a lot.also please get a Canadian lawyer to handle this case.

Dear Seniors,

Happy Sunday to you all.

Please, I need your advice on the PNP I can or prepare to apply to with my under listed details:

1. Age: 43 years
2. ECA: Master's Degree
3. IELTS result: L - 5.5; R - 5.5; W - 6.5; S - 7.0
4. Work Experience: over 10 years in NOC 4163 (Business Development Officers and Marketing Researchers and Consultants

My Spouse:

1. Age: 34
2. ECA: Diploma (3 years) and Postgraduate Certificate (1 year)
3. IELTS result: L - 6.0; R - 4.5; W - 6.0; S - 7.0
4. Work Experience: 7 years in NOC 1123 (Professional occupations in advertising, marketing and public relations)

I await your advice.

Thanks.

zaraman:


good then,you have a very good case,you will have to back up all this explanation with medical reports and a dr explaining all this point you made above.

there is a fairness letter thread on canada visa site.the thread will help a lot.also please get a Canadian lawyer to handle this case.

Thank you.

Please share the link with me.

Phemmie72:
Dear Seniors,

Happy Sunday to you all.

Please, I need your advice on the PNP I can or prepare to apply to with my under listed details:

1. Age: 43 years
2. ECA: Master's Degree
3. IELTS result: L - 5.5; R - 5.5; W - 6.5; S - 7.0
4. Work Experience: over 10 years in NOC 4163 (Business Development Officers and Marketing Researchers and Consultants

My Spouse:

1. Age: 34
2. ECA: Diploma (3 years) and Postgraduate Certificate (1 year)
3. IELTS result: L - 6.0; R - 4.5; W - 6.0; S - 7.0
4. Work Experience: 7 years in NOC 1123 (Professional occupations in advertising, marketing and public relations)

I await your advice.

Thanks.

Unfortunately neither your IELTS results nor your wife's qualifies you to apply via the Federal Skilled Workers Program. In order to qualify you need to score a minimum of 6 each band. You both need to write the exam again but this time ensure you both prepare for it.

zandora:


Go through this link

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/-t124057.0.html

Thank u