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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Saipro(m): 5:31am On Nov 02, 2015
badaru1:
Good day guys, I have this Auxano 2kva 24v inverter, recently it stopped working and it's showing this message on the led screen. What could be the solution?
donmajor2:

I think the message can be interpreted to mean: MCB(Miniature Circuit Breaker) tripped, please Reset. To bypass(the Circuit breaker), select option 2'
Just reasoning from the prompt.

Or if it has bypass reset switches (often push buttons), activate it. Upload a snapshot of the rear end or any other part which has buttons or other stuff.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by badaru1(m): 9:46am On Nov 02, 2015
Saipro:



Or if it has bypass reset switches (often push buttons), activate it. Upload a snapshot of the rear end or any other part which has buttons or other stuff.

The fault is from the socket fuse, I have rectified it, thanks for the concern
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 5:40pm On Nov 02, 2015
SO I finally had time to install the epsolar CC i bought from kie kie, at a price higher than what i budgeted for, ..well thats a story for another day grin grin
compared to morning star , this epsolar is huge!!!!.....though it appears to have more functionality than the morning star, but kinda still prefer my MS.........time will tell.

reconfigured my 24v 250w renogy panels to 2 x 2 , thus input voltage into cc is about 65v, which drops down to about 55v when hooked up to the cc-inverter/battery system...
harvest looks very promising........will monitor and keep the house updated.....recorded 730w harvest from 1kw panel..that arent even optimally placed.......anyway max i got from MS throughout the 21months usage was about 750watts, lemme see if this epsolar will exceed that.
nb: disregard the time on the cc, hadnt set the clock properly then! grin grin

Kie kie delivered very very fast...item was in my location barely 15hrs after payment

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by clown: 7:03am On Nov 03, 2015
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Nobody: 8:41am On Nov 03, 2015
Am about to venture into this,i started reading this thread about 4days ago,currently on page 40,i wanna say you all are great.Keep the fire burning,and will install mine after reading the whole thread.Thanks @all
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by richmon74(m): 1:17pm On Nov 03, 2015
clown:
Help rate these guys

http://www.pscsolaruk.com/inverters


I'll prefer to rate the Inverter and not the company.

on a scale of 0 to 10 I'll rate them 6.

My ratings is based on performance according to specifications, price, durability. It's a little pricy compared to their other China ones.

I installed 2 of them about 3 years ago with the same battery. One of them have gone for repairs repeatedly and at the end they eventually changed it but the other one hasn't had any issue since installation.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by shithapuns: 2:51pm On Nov 03, 2015
Is anybody having battrey desulphator hooked up to his battery and chatge controller assy?
was reading a review where some1 claimed the battery desulphator fried his cc...
he claimed the desulphator works by generating a spike which helps to dissolve the deposites on the plates of the batteries, and that this spike is dangerous to electronics, cc/brainbox etc
currently have desulphator hooked up to my running car battery for 4wks now...zero issues
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by jerrygome: 4:14pm On Nov 03, 2015
richmon74:


I'll prefer to rate the Inverter and not the company.

on a scale of 0 to 10 I'll rate them 6.

My ratings is based on performance according to specifications, price, durability. It's a little pricy compared to their other China ones.

I installed 2 of them about 3 years ago with the same battery. One of them have gone for repairs repeatedly and at the end they eventually changed it but the other one hasn't had any issue since installation.

Thats an awesome answer. A million thanks to ya.


The one you installed what capacity is it?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Saipro(m): 5:21pm On Nov 03, 2015
clown:
Help rate these guys

http://www.pscsolaruk.com/inverters


I concur with previous ratings and comments. My own addition is: I wish there were a way we could give feedback to make improvements. My greatest grouse with most Chinese inverters is their high standby energy consumption.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by JUO(m): 5:58pm On Nov 03, 2015
Saipro:


I concur with previous ratings and comments. My own addition is: I wish there were a way we could give feedback to make improvements. My greatest grouse with most Chinese inverters is their high standby energy consumption.
imagine seeing 24v/2a cooling fan on one like that. I had no option than to dump it. Self-consumption was over 60w. I will post the picture later. But I liked the machine for two things. 1. It has AVR 2. Zero change over (DC to AC) is zero just like online ups. Believe me if you see prag with avr and ups function their price go tear pocket
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Saipro(m): 6:32pm On Nov 03, 2015
Mine has a self-consumption of closer to 100W. That's the much touted MustPower PowerStar IR series
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by clown: 7:24pm On Nov 03, 2015
Saipro:


I concur with previous ratings and comments. My own addition is: I wish there were a way we could give feedback to make improvements. My greatest grouse with most Chinese inverters is their high standby energy consumption.

This is cool. How do one measure this self consumption?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by clown: 7:26pm On Nov 03, 2015
richmon74:


I'll prefer to rate the Inverter and not the company.

on a scale of 0 to 10 I'll rate them 6.

My ratings is based on performance according to specifications, price, durability. It's a little pricy compared to their other China ones.

I installed 2 of them about 3 years ago with the same battery. One of them have gone for repairs repeatedly and at the end they eventually changed it but the other one hasn't had any issue since installation.


I like the detailed rating. I wish I can pay for this grin. Thanks a bunch
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by richmon74(m): 12:07am On Nov 04, 2015
jerrygome:


Thats an awesome answer. A million thanks to ya.


The one you installed what capacity is it?

3kw
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by williams85(m): 7:09am On Nov 04, 2015
pls house which inverter is the best, i want 2kva or 2.5kva with two 200mah batteries.. wat do i budget for these. thanks
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by c0ogumo(m): 7:35am On Nov 04, 2015
williams85:
pls house which inverter is the best, i want 2kva or 2.5kva with two 200mah batteries.. wat do i budget for these. thanks

Your best Inverter is simply what you can afford. You can take a look at our website www.solardepotng.com to see what you can afford.
We have Chinese and USA Inverters like Must, High-Power, Magnum, Xantrex and Outback etc
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by williams85(m): 11:56am On Nov 04, 2015
pls house, can i use one 12v 200ah for a 2KVA / 24V Inverter? thanks
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by JohnKester: 12:03pm On Nov 04, 2015
williams85:
pls house, can i use one 12v 200ah for a 2KVA / 24V Inverter? thanks

No, you cannot, you need another 12V 200Ah battery to make up the 24V.

Cheers.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by williams85(m): 12:06pm On Nov 04, 2015
JohnKester:


No, you cannot, you need another 12V 200Ah battery to make up the 24V.

Cheers.
God bless u.. what will be the disadvantage if i go for1.2kva/12v inverter.. just to power a room with plasma TV, satellite receiver home theater and a fan.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by JohnKester: 12:18pm On Nov 04, 2015
williams85:
God bless u.. what will be the disadvantage if i go for1.2kva/12v inverter.. just to power a room with plasma TV, satellite receiver home theater and a fan.

It all depends on the load and how long the inverter has to carry these load when there is no light. If you have supply from the public utility to fully charge the battery every day, then it should serve you. For a room, it should serve. Give it a try and from the experience, you will learn how to manage your loads on the inverter in order to get longer service in between charges.

Cheers.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by GeorgeD1(m): 7:18pm On Nov 04, 2015
shithapuns:
Is anybody having battrey desulphator hooked up to his battery and chatge controller assy?
was reading a review where some1 claimed the battery desulphator fried his cc...
he claimed the desulphator works by generating a spike which helps to dissolve the deposites on the plates of the batteries, and that this spike is dangerous to electronics, cc/brainbox etc
currently have desulphator hooked up to my running car battery for 4wks now...zero issues

shithapuns,
i have a battery life saver (bls) hooked up to my system from day one (and its going three years now)
and it has not fried any of my morningstar charge controllers nor any of my electronics. i guess peeps just
post all these crap on the internet to gain unnecessary attention.
remember, the world wide web is like a jungle. don't believe everything you read.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by samnaija: 9:15pm On Nov 04, 2015
earthrealm:
SO I finally had time to install the epsolar CC i bought from kie kie, at a price higher than what i budgeted for, ..well thats a story for another day grin grin
compared to morning star , this epsolar is huge!!!!.....though it appears to have more functionality than the morning star, but kinda still prefer my MS.........time will tell.

reconfigured my 24v 250w renogy panels to 2 x 2 , thus input voltage into cc is about 65v, which drops down to about 55v when hooked up to the cc-inverter/battery system...
harvest looks very promising........will monitor and keep the house updated.....recorded 730w harvest from 1kw panel..that arent even optimally placed.......anyway max i got from MS throughout the 21months usage was about 750watts, lemme see if this epsolar will exceed that.
nb: disregard the time on the cc, hadnt set the clock properly then! grin grin

Kie kie delivered very very fast...item was in my location barely 15hrs after payment
impressive your system is it a 24 or 48volts.then could you describe your panels connections to we laymen. we are learning.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Saipro(m): 5:28am On Nov 05, 2015
shithapuns:
Is anybody having battrey desulphator hooked up to his battery and chatge controller assy?
was reading a review where some1 claimed the battery desulphator fried his cc...
he claimed the desulphator works by generating a spike which helps to dissolve the deposites on the plates of the batteries, and that this spike is dangerous to electronics, cc/brainbox etc
currently have desulphator hooked up to my running car battery for 4wks now...zero issues

There are those on this forum who can attest to the fact that I have been using desulphators for a while now (over two years, not sure if above three years yet). They're installed in cars of similar engine cappacities and use. Not ideal lab conditions but would suffice. Not only do they work (the two other batteries of same make and capacity and bought within 6 weeks of each other used as controls have begun showing signs of diminished capacity) but I've used them to bring back to life a few automotive batteries and with cycling. two AGM 200Ahr 12V AGM (a few critics said it's impossible). In fairness, I must mention it failed on many other AGM batteries and those are the only two recorded AGM successes I have (could they be vented lead acid batteries?).

As GeorgeD1 said, don't believe everything you read.

clown:

This is cool. How do one measure this self consumption?

I let my battteries go into float. Inverter stays off. I monitor the Midnite Classic's output for a few minutes. I flip the breaker disconnecting the loads from the inverter. I power on the inverter. I leave for a few minutes and read steady state output from the CC. The difference comes from the cables and inverter. Since my cables are short and thick and don't really "consume energy", transmission losses are neglible. Inverter therefore is held accountable for the difference in energy consumption. Case adjourned!
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by chris81964(m): 7:28pm On Nov 06, 2015
Will you pay N630k for an 800VA Victron, inverter, two 200 AH Hoppecke 6 V batteries, Four 100 Watt panel, one 30 amp charge controller, a roof rack and an installation kit?

Let me know your thoughts.

http://www.victronenergy.com/inverters-chargers/multiplus-12v-24v-48v-800va-3kva

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Im2Busy2Bother: 4:15pm On Nov 08, 2015
chris81964:
Will you pay N630k for an 800VA Victron, inverter, two 200 AH Hoppecke 6 V batteries, Four 100 Watt panel, one 30 amp charge controller, a roof rack and an installation kit?

Let me know your thoughts.

http://www.victronenergy.com/inverters-chargers/multiplus-12v-24v-48v-800va-3kva

Costly

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by chris81964(m): 12:07am On Nov 09, 2015
Im2Busy2Bother:


Costly

Thank you.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Pharyn(m): 12:22pm On Nov 09, 2015
FLEXMAX 80 For Sale!

Brand New but 1 week installed.

HISTORY
Met these on site:
- 5kW 48V Sukam Inverter (with 15A Charging Current).
- 8 units of AGM 12V 150Ah configured for 300Ah at 48V.
-2 units of PWM CC (see attached images).
- Panels amounting to 1.6kW. 100W each.
* All installed December 2014.

We advised client to add more panels (at least 1.5kW) and change Charge Controller to MPPT. He said, because of capital investment, for now, he will only change CC to maximise what we have on ground.

After replacing the PWM CCs with this FlexMax 80, the yield was not appreciable.

Client does not want to add panels because of limited funds.

ACTION PLAN:
We advised client to sell off all the solar panels and CC to offset cost of upgrading from Sukam Indian Inverter to Magnum/PRAG-like Inverter with 40-50A charging current, then change batteries to the new flooded USB (from c0ogumo).

That is why we put this CC up for grabs.

Interested? Call 090 999 88 770.

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by richmon74(m): 1:37pm On Nov 09, 2015
Pharyn:
FLEXMAX 80 For Sale!

Brand New but 1 week installed.

HISTORY
Met these on site:
- 5kW 48V Sukam Inverter (with 15A Charging Current).
- 8 units of AGM 12V 150Ah configured for 300Ah at 48V.
-2 units of PWM CC (see attached images).
- Panels amounting to 1.6kW. 100W each.
* All installed December 2014.

We advised client to add more panels (at least 1.5kW) and change Charge Controller to MPPT. He said, because of capital investment, for now, he will only change CC to maximise what we have on ground.

After replacing the PWM CCs with this FlexMax 80, the yield was not appreciable.

Client does not want to add panels because of limited funds.

ACTION PLAN:
We advised client to sell off all the solar panels and CC to offset cost of upgrading from Sukam Indian Inverter to Magnum/PRAG-like Inverter with 40-50A charging current, then change batteries to the new flooded USB (from c0ogumo).

That is why we put this CC up for grabs.

Interested? Call 090 999 88 770.

I usually stay away from making this kind of comments am about to but for this one i really feel like i should.

In economics of Engineering, we were thought to make the best use of what the client has on ground already.
You should avoid making changes according to equipment you feel are not pro, rather you should base your design on what the need of the client is. In this case you didn't tell us what the need of your client is. Your planning to sale off the solar panels any replacing it with an expensive inverter doesn't make sense to me except i didn't understand you well. With that system and your recent upgrade to FM80, I want to believe if the installation is properly carried out (with proper cable sizing/quality, proper terminals etc) that the system should be very effective with relative to the size.

What will your client gain buy buying an inverter with almost half a million naira when he doesn't even have batteries? What advantage will he get by buying PRAG over luminous?

In my advice, power generation is always priority to storage. As such, the solar panels which you even want to sale off is more important than the inverter and batteries except the present batteries are bad.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the Sukam inverter if you depend more on solar for charging the battery. Depending on inverter for charging the battery doesn't make economic sense to me except the person is not paying bills for power.

Finally, we always advice client to upgrade only on certain conditions like;
- If he has grown financially over time and wants to move to pro products
- If he has moved to a bigger apartment and can afford the upgrade
- If the system he had installed was wrongly designed and wasn't operational for at least 60% rated efficiency
- If the previous system failed and he could afford something better
- If we are called and asked to upgrade.

The upgrade must make economic sense and improved efficiency before we get involved.

Please pardon me if this is not what you expected

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by abunafiu(m): 1:58pm On Nov 09, 2015
richmon74:


I usually stay away from making this kind of comments am about to but for this one i really feel like i should.

In economics of Engineering, we were thought to make the best use of what the client has on ground already.
You should avoid making changes according to equipment you feel are not pro, rather you should base your design on what the need of the client is. In this case you didn't tell us what the need of your client is. Your planning to sale off the solar panels any replacing it with an expensive inverter doesn't make sense to me except i didn't understand you well. With that system and your recent upgrade to FM80, I want to believe if the installation is properly carried out (with proper cable sizing/quality, proper terminals etc) that the system should be very effective with relative to the size.

What will your client gain buy buying an inverter with almost half a million naira when he doesn't even have batteries? What advantage will he get by buying PRAG over luminous?

In my advice, power generation is always priority to storage. As such, the solar panels which you even want to sale off is more important than the inverter and batteries except the present batteries are bad.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the Sukam inverter if you depend more on solar for charging the battery. Depending on inverter for charging the battery doesn't make economic sense to me except the person is not paying bills for power.

Finally, we always advice client to upgrade only on certain conditions like;
- If he has grown financially over time and wants to move to pro products
- If he has moved to a bigger apartment and can afford the upgrade
- If the system he had installed was wrongly designed and wasn't operational for at least 60% rated efficiency
- If the previous system failed and he could afford something better
- If we are called and asked to upgrade.

The upgrade must make economic sense and improved efficiency before we get involved.

Please pardon me if this is not what you expected
You are absolutely correct sir.
Besides , one may not get back the expected amount of money after sales.
Pharyn, you need to encourage ur cleint to add more panels. and later he can systematically change the inverter and lastly the batteries.

I still await ur reply on the soc of those batts @pharyn
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Nobody: 6:31pm On Nov 09, 2015
Hello guys,
I'd like to know the number of solar panels in terms of wattage that can power a total load of 1500W on a 3000W inverter with a minimum of 4 200AH batteries connected in series and then parceled to get 24V 400AH.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by JUO(m): 7:12pm On Nov 09, 2015
richmon74:


I usually stay away from making this kind of comments am about to but for this one i really feel like i should.

In economics of Engineering, we were thought to make the best use of what the client has on ground already.
You should avoid making changes according to equipment you feel are not pro, rather you should base your design on what the need of the client is. In this case you didn't tell us what the need of your client is. Your planning to sale off the solar panels any replacing it with an expensive inverter doesn't make sense to me except i didn't understand you well. With that system and your recent upgrade to FM80, I want to believe if the installation is properly carried out (with proper cable sizing/quality, proper terminals etc) that the system should be very effective with relative to the size.

What will your client gain buy buying an inverter with almost half a million naira when he doesn't even have batteries? What advantage will he get by buying PRAG over luminous?

In my advice, power generation is always priority to storage. As such, the solar panels which you even want to sale off is more important than the inverter and batteries except the present batteries are bad.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the Sukam inverter if you depend more on solar for charging the battery. Depending on inverter for charging the battery doesn't make economic sense to me except the person is not paying bills for power.

Finally, we always advice client to upgrade only on certain conditions like;
- If he has grown financially over time and wants to move to pro products
- If he has moved to a bigger apartment and can afford the upgrade
- If the system he had installed was wrongly designed and wasn't operational for at least 60% rated efficiency
- If the previous system failed and he could afford something better
- If we are called and asked to upgrade.

The upgrade must make economic sense and improved efficiency before we get involved.

Please pardon me if this is not what you expected
best advice. Oga has spoken
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Barezzi(m): 7:38pm On Nov 09, 2015
ibrodex:
Hello guys,
I'd like to know the number of solar panels in terms of wattage that can power a total load of 1500W on a 3000W inverter with a minimum of 4 200AH batteries connected in series and then parceled to get 24V 400AH.
This 1500w, is it constant for 24hrs? If yes, then for 5hrs of sunlight you'll need 7.2kw solar array.
The 4 batteries in series are they 6Vdc each? To charge that number of batteries in 5hrs of sunlight, you'll need about 2kw solar array. I'm assuming you discharge your battery bank to 0% SOC...
Operating that 1500w load on your battery bank will "empty" it in about 6hrs.

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