Goodboiy:


Omona = This child
Emoor = Children
Omo = Child

bigfrancis21:


I don't think anybody on this forum insinuated that ALL Urhobos have Igbo ancestry. I believe that it was said that SOME communities in Urhobo land have partial Igbo ancestry or elements in them. Nobody is claiming Urhobos. Please, in English language, there is a difference between ALL and SOME.

bokohalal:


Same as Edo. Everything up there. How come you concluded that the word OMO is Yoruba is my perplexity. What did Urhobos call a CHILD before? They had children before they borrowed the word, didn't they? Did the Igbos also turn OMO to UMU?

Radoillo:


Well, I think there is a lot of disputing, if this thread is anything to go by.

It's more than a little surprising to me that these set of traditions are apparently unknown to much of the present generation of Urhobo/Isoko youth. I had to step back because I had no interest in being tagged a revisionist and (that clichéd nairaland phrase) 'land grabber'.

Are you Urhobo or Isoko?

Goodboiy:


Thanks for Moving this thread to the front page.

but lemme make some correction.. The word I used re used in Urhobo, The people who said otherwise know nothing about my tribe.. Am Urhobo and I can proof the word most claim re false

Oba : We call king Ovie , But in some sentence we use Oba tp refer to King.. like 'Oba risi' meaning king of the word.

Ego : Looking at this word closely you can see the similarity with Igho used in Urhobo.

Olori: Most Urhobo On this forum , am really Disappointed in them.. Olori is a Popular word used in Urhobo especially those from Ughelli.. we have The Olori Family In Ughelli .. Olori means Head of a place or family or group .. in Yoruba it means same.

EWa : I already explained this earlier

Ilaje44:

Malu is not Hausa, but Yoruba for cow/cattle.

Igho, can't be Igboid since the Itsekiri, Ilaje and almost all eastern Yoruboid groups (Ondo state) call money "ogho". The "g" is silent in "ogho" unlike in "ego" where you hear it loud and clear.

Igho probably pronounced "e hoe" with silent g
Ego is pronounced "ay go"
Ogho is pronounced "oh hoe" with silent g

IGBOPRINCE:
pls which of the edo languages the urhobo re similar with? Cos the last time I travelled to edo state. I was marvelled at the existence of many languages in edo state.
The auchi,the esan, the okada, the oredos, the akoko edos and the binis. Pls I respects your comments but I need to know the particular language that s similar to that of urhobo at bolded.

smartec:
It' just your hate for the igbos that why you are trying to deny that some uhrobo are Igbos. Go check your history very well. Or do some research

teeowl:
Urhobo branched out of Yoruba.

LordAdam:


The Urhobo and Isoko people are not one and the same people. #fact#.

Delta State is a melting pot of the ancient dominant people in the south. The Itsekiri people trace most of their ancestry to the Yoruba. The Urhobo and Isoko to the Bini. The Anioma people to the Igbo people. However, Isoko is even more diverse, some clans trace their ancestry to the Bini (Oleh, Iluelogbo) some to the Igbo (Igbide). Without reading up on any historical book, local storyline of ancestry in Igbide portend that their ancestor was from present day Anambra state.

The Isoko people have a diverse ancestry, but have gone beyond that. There was always bound to be contact that could reflect in language and culture. Please do not clog the Urhobo and Isoko people together again. They may be similar but they have distinct differences.

fratermathy:


Urhobo is lingustically more like Afemai and Etsako. However, we are culturally like Bini and Esan. But we certainly have NOTHING akin with Igbo. If you say yoruba, I'd skeptically reserve my comments but not Igbo! Definitely not Igbo.

This is not me being sentimental but I'm simply stating facts. Urhobos are not connected with Igbos using any cultural or linguistic framework available. Those loaned words are simply a product of contact and it may have gone the other way round. I.e. Borrowed from Urhobo. However, in any case, we must live as one and recognise our unity but we should never be lumped together with Igbos.

Awoofawo:


In essence you trying to say "Urhobo is fusion of Yoruba and Igbo" the mid-point where both languages met! No problem with that! ; To all my Igbo folks ndo, bia biko no be fight, we after all brothers and sisters! 8_

In essence you trying to say "Urhobo is fusion of Yoruba and Igbo" the mid-point where both languages met! No problem with that! ; To all my Igbo folks ndo, bia biko no be fight, we after all brothers and sisters! 8_

enigmatique:


In fact, the latter part of that Urhobo sentence sounds a lot like Yoruba. That is, if Orgor=inlaw=ana (in Yoruba), then check this out:
ana re nko?

fratermathy:



Keep talking like this and you may soon win yourself an award as the bigot of the year. !

Urhobo has less than 50 loaned words from these languages. Urhobo has over 5000 words. So 50 words make it a meeting point?
Your logic is appalling. Urhobo is not linguistically or culturally linked with either groups. The Op is only trying to show us how unique and connected our Nigerian languages are. There are Igbo words in yoruba and vice versa. Let us remain upon the Op's premise rather than make uncouth careless and tribalistic statements!

slimfresh:


yorubas dont pronounce like that joor.....which o e be 'igalsi' 'ibanki'? Infact all you wrote about youruba words were wrongly spelt and going by d spelling wrongly pronounced.

macof:


Interestingly Ugun is Vulture in yoruba

fratermathy:


Urhobo is lingustically more like Afemai and Etsako. However, we are culturally like Bini and Esan. But we certainly have NOTHING akin with Igbo. If you say yoruba, I'd skeptically reserve my comments but not Igbo! Definitely not Igbo.

This is not me being sentimental but I'm simply stating facts. Urhobos are not connected with Igbos using any cultural or linguistic framework available. Those loaned words are simply a product of contact and it may have gone the other way round. I.e. Borrowed from Urhobo. However, in any case, we must live as one and recognise our unity but we should never be lumped together with Igbos.

Awoofawo:

Bro why you com parra like this? I'm not in any way saying those to undermine Urhobo cultural and language uniqueness! Just trying to get some fun at the expense of original Op! Have a great nite!

DikeOha882:
Just learnt that surname can be borrowed, ok what's the meaning of okpara as a name, in Igbo it means first son

fratermathy:


Urhobos don't use "Nko". That's a Yoruba word that has been engraved into Pidgin. The Op codemixed Urhobo and Pidgin in that utterance, ergo, it appears to you as Yorubaic. Native and deep Urhobo speakers do not have Nko in their vocabulary.

trapQ:
Oniovo biko ya'jhi ikwo na woh', u seem to forget they like by force attachment. Theyre already over stressing this issue saying that we have Igbo ancestry. If anything, we have more Yoruba words than Igbo words and the Yoruba's should be the ones claiming us, not the Igbo's. We were also with the Yorubas in the old western region. You don't see the Yorubas losing sleep over this.

Rapture007:

idiat... go and hide. attaching wit who? for wat? for ur mind now u re a beautiful bride dat pple try to woo. abeg go sleep. yeye de smell

fratermathy:


Even "some" is disputable. Urhobo is one of the farthest cultures and languages from Igbo. If anything, it is more Yoruboid. However, Urhobo is neither.

fratermathy:





Ego/Igho both come from Portuguese. That word and all its variants are not ours to claim.

pazienza:
"Perhaps the influence was too weak to hold waters unlike the mass acculturation successfully carried out in Ukwuani and Ika"

Fratermarthy, what's the meaning of the bolded part of your post? Are you by any means suggesting that both Ukwuani and Ika were not originally Igbo speaking but became Igbo speaking via acculturation done by Ndiigbo?

Explain what you mean, cos I won't let this slip. Rewriting Igbo history and creating an Igbo boogeyman seem to be the favorite past time activity of Edoids and Ijoids.

fratermathy:


I am not suggesting anything!

Ikas and Ukwuanis, as well as Ikwerres, claim to be originally Edos! Today they speak Igbo. A mass acculturation took place. It is obvious like the Teke Teke Mene Upharsin! If you negate this fact, it means these aforementioned tribes are liars! I do not want to believe that more than 30million people will lie about this.

Acculturation may be voluntary, by mistake or imposed. In whatever case, it happened! Let's move beyond that.

Urhobos were never acculturated. However, the Igbo language was seen as a Language of advantage and commerce and thus Igbo people were warmly embraced, ergo, linguistic items were shared. The donor and recipient remains a subject of debate.

Abagworo:


Igbos equally use nko. People should stop thinking in one direction. An Igboman will ask Ogor gi kwanu? or Ogor e nkor? depending on the dialect of Igbo which is in hundreds. Let us just know that Igbo-Edo-Yoruba spoke one language in distant past and have experienced inter migrations even in more recent times.

fratermathy:


Urhobos don't use "Nko". That's a Yoruba word that has been engraved into Pidgin. The Op codemixed Urhobo and Pidgin in that utterance, ergo, it appears to you as Yorubaic. Native and deep Urhobo speakers do not have Nko in their vocabulary.

Rapture007:

idiat... go and hide. attaching wit who? for wat? for ur mind now u re a beautiful bride dat pple try to woo. abeg go sleep. yeye de smell

bigfrancis21:


I don't think anybody on this forum insinuated that ALL Urhobos have Igbo ancestry. I believe that it was said that SOME communities in Urhobo land have partial Igbo ancestry or elements in them. Nobody is claiming Urhobos. Please, in English language, there is a difference between ALL and SOME.

Goodboiy:


Yes king Is called Ovie. but in Urhobo we Use OBA.. like Oba'risi meaning king of the word.. that were I picked the word from.. mind you am Urhobo so nothing I don't know

Goodboiy:


yes very very correct.. oka is corn in Urhobo

HugoChavezJr:


That is a lie from the pit of hell. Urhobos are not linked with Igbos in any way shape or form. The Urhobo language has some similarities with Esan and Etsako also Isoko since they are almost the same. For you to claim that shows how ignorant you really are.