muafrika:

I'll do just that.

And at that time when you rule, how will you change Africa. As in What will you do exactly to change our fate?

There are many ideas I have, but I will not go into that here.

One that I will go into is this; For profit State Owned Corporations are not doomed to fail as neo-liberals have brainwashed Africans into believing. The state owned company is the best way for a nation to become fantastically wealthy and have the greatest possible control over its economy, employment etc. Privatization is a mistake.

Why do state owned companies, like NEPA, always fail in Africa, yet work in China? The people of Africa are stupider than the people of China.

This can be alleviated by several methods. Eugenics, yes, but also through the use of the polygraph test, IQ and Character tests for State Companies.

pleep:


The first and most important step to achieve this: Is for them to first discover/re-discover who the truely are
1st as a human being
2nd as black/african person
3rd as what ever group (tribe, ethnicity etc) they come from

^This is what we call intangible bullshit. While you retards are waiting for black people to magically "Rediscover who they truely" are, i'm going to be busy sterilizing your low IQ asses.

Unfortunately, the people who need to see this post of yours are probably not reading it .

muafrika:

When you cannot take a good scholarly discussion without resorting to insults, I begin to doubt your intelligence.

I only insult people when they say dumb things.

pleep:

Let me translate it into low IQ : Your proposed "solution" is intangible feel-good bullshit. Its the same nonsense blacks in both Africa and the United States have been preeching since the 60's, with no result except to divert attention from actual productive action.

"kumbaya, we must return to our roots, Pan Africa, black pride, bla bla fucking bla."

Lol
This is not a kumbaya approach
Kumbaya approach is ment for people who are foolish enough to be emotional about issues

I don't do emotions (my emotions are practically dead) cause they solve nothing

I work with only logic and reasoning

Logic and proper reasoning gives you true anwsers

For you to truely work with logic and proper reasoning
You have to first free your mind from all kinds of emotional or sentimental attachments eg: belief systems (religion, occult, cult, aethism etc)

This is the reason why said african/black people should fix themselves individually
First
As a HUMAN BEING
You are first of all a human being before any thing else

To do this you have to start by asking your self basic human common sensical questions
About your self as well as the society you find your self

such questions could be

The things I do, does my common sense (not any emotional or sentimental reference) tell me it is the right thing to do?

In relation to the topic of discussion
For africans/black people the questions will be more like

Why do I have to subscribe to the belief systems of those who plundered, raped, enslaved and killed me and my people for centuries and counting (cause its still going on)
When it is obvious that they seek for me and my peoples down fall

Why should me and my people educate our selves the way they want and forced us to

What is wrong with me and my people developing our own leadership, educational, technological, economical, social, developmental and structural systems
Devoid of outside influence especially when such influence is mischievious and with an uterior motive
Why is me and my peoples development hinged on the imput of outsiders
Does it mean without outsiders we cannot get things done for ourselves

As an african woman, I have a hair of my own
Why then am I coarsed by society into the idea of always buying and putting on someone elses hair which is totally different from my and that of my people

Why should we as africans be forced without our consent to be in slave contrapment (called countries) by those who plundered, enslaved and colonised us
Why do we continue living in this slave contrapments that were formed for our subjugation and continues slavery instead of us to revert back to our original organically formed structure

Why should we be part of organisations belonging to our opperessors and killers such as UN, world bank (why store money in their banks), IMF, IOC, OPEC etc
Can't we live and survive on our own without this organisations

Why listen-to and adopt stories and concepts from the media of people who oppress and blunder you or are you so blind not to see what they are doing to you

Bottom line
What do even need these people (imperialist nations and their organisations) for
You have all the resources you need to be develop your civilisation independently
Why then do you need these people
Are you incapable of organising yourselves in your own distinct way, at your own pace and with your own unique philosophy and methodology

When african/black people start asking themselves these type of questions
They would start clear their minds of all imperialistic forms of brainwashed thinking

They will start to see things for what they truely and start to thinking with an open mind and out the mental slavery box they've been conditioned to think through

They would start solving problems in a unique organically developed style

Like for example:

Transportation for place to place on land and air without cars and planes respectively (no one said you cannot develop and use something more efficent and safer than cars and plane)

Developing a basic amunition for security more efficient and humane than guns


This type of thought process is what will rescue africa/black people from their present level of hopelessness and confusion

pleep:


The first and most important step to achieve this: Is for them to first discover/re-discover who the truely are
1st as a human being
2nd as black/african person
3rd as what ever group (tribe, ethnicity etc) they come from

^This is what we call intangible bullshit. While you retards are waiting for black people to magically "Rediscover who they truely" are, i'm going to be busy sterilizing your low IQ asses.

For you to know and solve your problem
You must first know yourself
This is what am driving at with that point

Africans/black people need to first know what it means to be a HUMAN BEING first of all
Before they know what it means to be an African/black person
Then, what it means to be whatever tribe, ethnicity or group they belong to
This is the order it should take

As a Human
You are supposed to act based your conscience and your ability to reason with logic
This is what distinquishes you from other living creatures on earth like plants and animals

Your creator placed a compass in you to direct you on the right thing to do at any point in time
This is
Your conscience and ability to reason with logic

This is supposed to guide you in doing the right thing
Cause your choices in life is supposed to be between what is right and what is not right
Not
What is good and what is bad
Cause good and bad are subject to emotional and sentimental ways of reasoning which a lot of times defies logical reasoning

As much as humans in general need to understand this concept of knowing what it means to be a human first of all before any other thing

Africans/black people are one of the races if not the most of all races of human beings to be far from understanding this concept
That is why
A lot of how they reason defies logic

Logic meaning BASIC COMMON SENSE

kingston277:
Such is largely the result of colonialism. Taking Africa from high level autonomy, civilization, wealth and advancement to a resource mine for greedy western powers. And we gladly let them continue with this exploitation.

Wrong. You misunderstood the post. We are incapable and we refuse to admit it. Colonialism was supposed to do us good like it has done in South Africa (apologies for the apartheid). But we chased the white man who came to teach us away and today we cannot even manage something as archaic as polio. It's pathetic.

badnature:
your people may be under achievers but igbo people are iconic when it's come to black race

Wrong. Engaging in trade is not synonymous with production. How many industrial farms do you have in Igboland? All the industries in Igboland use imported raw materials. That is not productivity. It's consumption. And please, I'm Igbo before you start yabbing our ethnic neighbours.

oglalasioux:

Wrong. You misunderstood the post. We are incapable and we refuse to admit it.
Colonialism was supposed to do us good like it has done in South Africa (apologies for the apartheid). But we chased the white man who came to teach us away and today we cannot even manage something as archaic as polio. It's pathetic.

I can't believe this. Do you people have history in your curriculum?

South Africa has the greatest number of illiterate blacks in Africa. The whites were developing their industries and stealing from South African blacks who had no social amenities, housing, land, reasonable jobs, dignity.

pleep:
There are many ideas I have, but I will not go into that here.

One that I will go into is this; For profit State Owned Corporations are not doomed to fail as neo-liberals have brainwashed Africans into believing. The state owned company is the best way for a nation to become fantastically wealthy and have the greatest possible control over its economy, employment etc. Privatization is a mistake.

Why do state owned companies, like NEPA, always fail in Africa, yet work in China? The people of Africa are stupider than the people of China.

This can be alleviated by several methods. Eugenics, yes, but also through the use of the polygraph test, IQ and Character tests for State Companies.

In China, you get executed for fraud or corruption. In Africa, you get really rich. That's the real difference.

There are important factors that come to play in an African setting. Most important, tribe, and the fact that this is a social, political, and economic institution that is in contention with the European systems of the same purpose, forcefully imposed on the continent. African tribes were autonomous units now being forced into subjection to other tribes by use of western ideals like democracy, which in Africa is just a tribal contest with the biggest tribe in a particular country getting the resultant power over the rest, and government loot for his/ tribe. In short, the European social, Economic and political systems imposed during colonialism are never going to work in Africa. In fact, they are resulting to more harm than good - tribal wars, genocides, corruption, willful underdevelopment of sidelined communities.

oglalasioux:

Wrong. You misunderstood the post. We are incapable and we refuse to admit it. Colonialism was supposed to do us good like it has done in South Africa (apologies for the apartheid). But we chased the white man who came to teach us away and today we cannot even manage something as archaic as polio. It's pathetic.

Nonsense. Nonsense. Nonsense. You think the white man was here because his heart was bursting with charity and he was looking for people to help? Nonsense.

How many hospitals did the white man build in Nigeria in the 46 years between 1914 and 1960? How many did native Nigerian governments built between 1960 and 1980?

How many secondary schools and institutions of higher learning did they found between 1914 and 1960? How many did WE found between 1960 and 1980?

How many kilometres of tarred road did they lay between 1914 and 1960? How many did WE lay between 1960 and 1980?

How many communities got electricity when they ruled, between 1914 and 1960? How many got electricity under native rule between 1960 and 1980?

I can go on.

They were never here to help us. If colonialism had lasted for 1,000 years, they would still had left Nigeria underdeveloped, infrastructure-less, not to mention robbed.

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Radoillo:


Nonsense. Nonsense. Nonsense. You think the white man was here because his heart was bursting with charity and he was looking for people to help? Nonsense.

How many hospitals did the white man build in Nigeria in the 46 years between 1914 and 1960? How many did native Nigerian governments built between 1960 and 1980?

How many secondary schools and institutions of higher learning did they found between 1914 and 1960? How many did WE found between 1960 and 1980?

How many kilometres of tarred road did they lay between 1914 and 1960? How many did WE lay between 1960 and 1980?

How many communities got electricity when they ruled, between 1914 and 1960? How many got electricity under native rule between 1960 and 1980?

I can go on.

They were never here to help us. If colonialism had lasted for 1,000 years, they would still had left Nigeria underdeveloped, infrastructure-less, not to mention robbed.

Malaysia was also colonized look at them now. India was also colonized look at them now

Ethiopia was NEVER colonized look at her now. A shithole filled with low IQ starving people

kleek:
Malaysia was also colonized look at them now. India was also colonized look at them now

Ethiopia was NEVER colonized look at her now. A shithole filled with low IQ starving people

Me and you are talking different things, dude. The person I mentioned said colonialism was supposed to help us, and that statement is the only thing I reacted to.

The rest of the thread and the whole 'IQ and economic development' debate holds no interest for me. I've debated that several times and have grow weary of it.

muafrika:

I can't believe this. Do you people have history in your curriculum?

South Africa has the greatest number of illiterate blacks in Africa. The whites were developing their industries and stealing from South African blacks who had no social amenities, housing, land, reasonable jobs, dignity.


In China, you get executed for fraud or corruption. In Africa, you get really rich. That's the real difference.

There are important factors that come to play in an African setting. Most important, tribe, and the fact that this is a social, political, and economic institution that is in contention with the European systems of the same purpose, forcefully imposed on the continent. African tribes were autonomous units now being forced into subjection to other tribes by use of western ideals like democracy, which in Africa is just a tribal contest with the biggest tribe in a particular country getting the resultant power over the rest, and government loot for his/ tribe. In short, the European social, Economic and political systems imposed during colonialism are never going to work in Africa. In fact, they are resulting to more harm than good - tribal wars, genocides, corruption, willful underdevelopment of sidelined communities.

Intelligent response. I doff my hat. Can you please lecture us on what Africa would've been had the white man not come? Also help us with the state of those institutions and infrastructures Nigeria built between 1960 to date. I'll like the statistics of indigenous engineers involved in the building of these infrastructures and the plans for maintenance and refurbishing over the years. I'll be glad if you point out specific achievements of black South Africans since their independence (take note that there's no more apartheid since 1994. That's 21 years.) I'll still say you gave an educated response.

kleek:
Malaysia was also colonized look at them now. India was also colonized look at them now

Ethiopia was NEVER colonized look at her now. A shithole filled with low IQ starving people

Thank you, my dear.

oglalasioux:

Intelligent response. I doff my hat. Can you please lecture us on what Africa would've been had the white man not come? Also help us with the state of those institutions and infrastructures Nigeria built between 1960 to date. I'll like the statistics of indigenous engineers involved in the building of these infrastructures and the plans for maintenance and refurbishing over the years. I'll be glad if you point out specific achievements of black South Africans since their independence (take note that there's no more apartheid since 1994. That's 21 years.) I'll still say you gave an educated response.

You might find these maps interesting; Where there are blacks, there is aids and poverty. Blacks are the constant variable, and in statistics this means they are the variable than controls the outcome.

kleek:


You might find these maps interesting; Where there are blacks, there is aids and poverty. Blacks are the constant variable, and in statistics this means they are the variable than controls the outcome.

Interesting information. We are always found at the dregs of society. The reason is simple. Mutation. It's not our fault. But what is our fault is when we fail to admit it and refuse help from who can. I'm not saying we should fall down for the white man. I'm saying let's learn from the white man. The human brain is designed to absorb knowledge.

oglalasioux:

Intelligent response. I doff my hat. Can you please lecture us on what Africa would've been had the white man not come? Also help us with the state of those institutions and infrastructures Nigeria built between 1960 to date. I'll like the statistics of indigenous engineers involved in the building of these infrastructures and the plans for maintenance and refurbishing over the years. I'll be glad if you point out specific achievements of black South Africans since their independence (take note that there's no more apartheid since 1994. That's 21 years.) I'll still say you gave an educated response.

If the white man had not touched our beautiful continent. The most important thing African nations would still have is simple human dignity. We would not be cramped in cold cities slave driving the engines of the white mans industry which is taking out our land, a good portion of our lifetime, and Peace.

My village, like many post independent African village, would be producing more food and gold for trade. The colonial masters shifted my entire tribe to a reserve so they could take our mineral rich, fertile land. We are all still in that reserve, in fact, the word "reserve" is widely used in my country to refer to our villages. Because we never got back our ancestral lands. And our current portions in the reserves are so closely subdivided to accommodate everybody that they are not enough for even a little subsistence farming. So our young men, most of whom have limited education, because they have limited resources and you need western education to get employment, and education costs money, are in the city doing mineal jobs and living in slums the only dwellings they can afford in the city.

If you are asking what life would be without cramped, cold cities and the senseless chase after time. My answer is: BEAUTIFUL. That is the life I was made for.

But some Africans loved and lived in cities before
colonialism. For people who believe life would be terrible if not presented European style.

muafrika:


If the white man had not touched our beautiful continent. The most important thing African nations would still have is simple human dignity. We would not be cramped in cold cities slave driving the engines of the white mans industry which is taking out our land, a good portion of our lifetime, and Peace.

My village, like many post independent African village, would be producing more food and gold for trade. The colonial masters shifted my entire tribe to a reserve so they could take our mineral rich, fertile land. We are all still in that reserve, in fact, the word "reserve" is widely used in my country to refer to our villages. Because we never got back our ancestral lands. And our current portions in the reserves are so closely subdivided to accommodate everybody that they are not enough for even a little subsistence farming. So our young men, most of whom have limited education, because they have limited resources and you need western education to get employment, and education costs money, are in the city doing mineal jobs and living in slums the only dwellings they can afford in the city.

If you are asking what life would be without cramped, cold cities and the senseless chase after time. My answer is: BEAUTIFUL. That is the life I was made for.

But some Africans loved and lived in cities before
colonialism. For people who believe life would be terrible if not presented European style.

You write well. I enjoyed the piece. But just for mention (not contradicting your write up) study the parables of Jesus Christ with a broad open mind. Dwell more on parable of the ten talents. I'll read more of your posts. You're a good writer.

kleek:


You might find these maps interesting; Where there are blacks, there is aids and poverty. Blacks are the constant variable, and in statistics this means they are the variable than controls the outcome.

Black South Africans were systematically injected with the AIDS Virus during colonialism.

Aids follows poverty. And incidences like the above.

Have you seen Ethiopia of late? Currently, it's the fastest growing economy in Africa. At 8%. It will be overtaking Nigeria as the biggest economy very soon. Splendid infrastructure too. [quote][/quote]

muafrika:

Black South Africans were systematically injected with the AIDS Virus during colonialism.

Aids follows poverty. And incidences like the above.

Have you seen Ethiopia of late? Currently, it's the fastest growing economy in Africa. At 8%. It will be overtaking Nigeria as the biggest economy very soon. Splendid infrastructure too.

I believe AID's was unintentionally "created" by white Europeans who used monkey blood in polio vaccines. They infected both other whites and black Africans. However, the idea that the spread of the disease is due to Europeans is laughable. Europeans may have created the disease but its spread is due to the stupidity and backwardness of the black people who spread it.

As for Ethiopia, Economic growth in Africa has little to no practical effect on the lives of the citizens of the country. GDP measures economic activity, drilling for more oil = more GDP but the people of the country (even the government) often benefit little. The best example of this is Equitorial Guinea, an African nation is 20,000 GDP per capita and the standard of living of dirt poverty.

The "black race" isn't inferior to the white man... I'm not saying that some of the ills of the black race shouldn't be contributed to the black man but BY DESIGN Africa was made to be dead last.. Africa is the bread basket of the world specifically Europe. It's advantageous to keep African society at the bottom of the barrel. Most of your leaders are puppets who get rich and give you NOTHING You are misled by their promises of "change" that never comes.. I'm a black American.. I've met Africans that run CIRCLES around white men academically AND common sense. When given a EQUAL playing field a black man can do just as well as a white man. .. Do you forget your past before the white man meddled in Africa? What about all the great kingdoms that flourished throughout the continent? Surely it took some level of intelligence and common sense. For change in Africa merely takes a people holding the government responsible and you must work to get rid of the European leeches... I also think it's REDICULOUS to determine your level of intelligence from a test designed by YOUR OPPRESSOR... The white man has done you NO FAVORS and he will not do anything for you in the future unless your soul is for sale. .. I guess I see him differently being the descendent of stolen Africans .. my 2 cents....

kleek:
I believe AID's was unintentionally "created" by white Europeans who used monkey blood in polio vaccines. They infected both other whites and black Africans. However, the idea that the spread of the disease is due to Europeans is laughable. Europeans may have created the disease but its spread is due to the stupidity and backwardness of the black people who spread it.

As for Ethiopia, Economic growth in Africa has little to no practical effect on the lives of the citizens of the country. GDP measures economic activity, drilling for more oil = more GDP but the people of the country (even the government) often benefit little. The best example of this is Equitorial Guinea, an African nation is 20,000 GDP per capita and the standard of living of dirt poverty.

Kudos to your sense of details. The OP lack the grasp of our/world history and how it answers modern reality.

He is arguing that since you don't have what europe and asia have, you are inferior to the two.

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Patterson504:
The "black race" isn't inferior to the white man... I'm not saying that some of the ills of the black race shouldn't be contributed to the black man but BY DESIGN Africa was made to be dead last.. Africa is the bread basket of the world specifically Europe. It's advantageous to keep African society at the bottom of the barrel. Most of your leaders are puppets who get rich and give you NOTHING You are misled by their promises of "change" that never comes.. I'm a black American.. I've met Africans that run CIRCLES around white men academically AND common sense. When given a EQUAL playing field a black man can do just as well as a white man. .. Do you forget your past before the white man meddled in Africa? What about all the great kingdoms that flourished throughout the continent? Surely it took some level of intelligence and common sense. For change in Africa merely takes a people holding the government responsible and you must work to get rid of the European leeches... I also think it's REDICULOUS to determine your level of intelligence from a test designed by YOUR OPPRESSOR... The white man has done you NO FAVORS and he will not do anything for you in the future unless your soul is for sale. .. I guess I see him differently being the descendent of stolen Africans .. my 2 cents....

Who said anything about black people being "inferior to whites", was the topic of whites even mentioned? The fact that you jumped to that conclusion speaks volumes about your insecurities and worldview, and also illustrates why the vast majority of black people will never advance. I don't think blacks are "inferior" and there is no objective way to measure inferiority anyway. Are whites better at academics, on average yes, but they also killed hundreds of millions of people in wars and genocide and spread disease and instability all over the world.

The only problem with black people is that we have too many low functioning people dragging the average IQ down and messing up the gene pool. We also have people like you who are too insecure and scared of being seen as "less than" by whites that you are unable to admit the truth about this issue and discuss the only viable solution.

By the way, Africans do better in the United States because West African Immigrants to the United States are typically the creme of the population, I would know. Imagine if all of Africa was made up of such individuals, combined with our creativity and vitality (unparalleled by any other race) Africa would become a first world continent within a generation.

^^Going by the Pareto 80/20 theory, we only need 20% of that population to stage a Renaissance.

these same set of creme immigrants are more than enough deliverers for the continent.

India was not populated by ghandi before she wrought her independence, Germany was not populated by Adolf Hitler before W.W.2

All europe was not populated by Isaac Newton before the law of motion was penned,

How many Jefferson, washinton, etc were signatories to the declaration of independence?

We'll have to wait for the US returnees.
this men from 'IQ Mecca' will transform our gene pool and take our continent to political Eldorado.

they will give us karl marx, Rosseau and Rosevett if we wait. All the IQ they will score will push us up and secure our insecurities.

ahen, only then can we be humans, now being equal with the West.

We will please them 'IQ test' to measure up. We will be well pleased when we please them. Who can phatom the depth of unintelligent - inferiority?

One man can make a difference better off than a higher IQ obsessed population can. The west have a way of eliminating such from us for now.

kleek:


Who said anything about black people being "inferior to whites", was the topic of whites even mentioned? The fact that you jumped to that conclusion speaks volumes about your insecurities and worldview, and also illustrates why the vast majority of black people will never advance. I don't think blacks are "inferior" and there is no objective way to measure inferiority anyway. Are whites better at academics, on average yes, but they also killed hundreds of millions of people in wars and genocide and spread disease and instability all over the world.

The only problem with black people is that we have too many low functioning people dragging the average IQ down and messing up the gene pool. We also have people like you who are too insecure and scared of being seen as "less than" by whites that you are unable to admit the truth about this issue and discuss the only viable solution.

By the way, Africans do better in the United States because West African Immigrants to the United States are typically the creme of the population, I would know. Imagine if all of Africa was made up of such individuals, combined with our creativity and vitality (unparalleled by any other race) Africa would become a first world continent within a generation.

Again, your argument is absurd. I assure you that my worldview isn't tainted.... I'm a well traveled man. There isn't any insecurities within me sir.. Too many blacks with low IQS destroying the gene pool? That's laughable? Where is your evidence? This is merely opinion and those are like assholes... we all have one. As far as whites outperforming blacks in academia, you have to take a deep look into the socia-economic environment in Africa compared to the west. School is mandatory and FREE for 13 years starting at age 5 here in America. Teachers are better paid and qualified. . Most students don't worry about power outages.. The system in most of Africa isn't conducive to learning.. This is largely due to economics which fault lies with the European exploitation of Africa and corrupt leadership.. Furthermore, you will have to prove that IQ is inherited from parent to child and so on if you dismiss the socia-economic argument. My father couldn't read on a 4th grade level.. A rather "simple" man... I don't have a low IQ because of it.. I know sooo many smart people with idiot parents... There goes your argument

Kleek,
You are using economic development and consequences of its lack as a testament to your theory. We are telling you the economics of our world have factors at play, carefully protected, because our economic system is designed like a pyramid, with Africa, the source of free raw materials (because it's not paid for, taxes or other ways) at the base.

There is no room at the top. Intentionally. It's occupied by our colonialists. Who have mining rights over the entire continent (hence the joke of GDP being increased with no effect on the people. The increased mineral exploitation does have a positive effect else where; in commodity markets of Switzerland and it's good citizens getting employed in the same market, it greatly benefits European industries and people where it's further sent for refining and production of petroleum products. Our petroleum industry ensures jobs. Just, not in Africa. Not just oil. All minerals HAVE TO pass through the same process and countries.

Your theory is faulty. Presumptuous.

We never got independence, Just a whitewashed political deal by the way. Well get independence when well be able to determine our own economics., culture, and politics.

NB: Ethiopia has no oil.

Patterson504:
Again, your argument is absurd. I assure you that my worldview isn't tainted.... I'm a well traveled man. There isn't any insecurities within me sir.. Too many blacks with low IQS destroying the gene pool? That's laughable? Where is your evidence? This is merely opinion and those are like assholes... we all have one. As far as whites outperforming blacks in academia, you have to take a deep look into the socia-economic environment in Africa compared to the west. School is mandatory and FREE for 13 years starting at age 5 here in America. Teachers are better paid and qualified. . Most students don't worry about power outages.. The system in most of Africa isn't conducive to learning.. This is largely due to economics which fault lies with the European exploitation of Africa and corrupt leadership.. Furthermore, you will have to prove that IQ is inherited from parent to child and so on if you dismiss the socia-economic argument. My father couldn't read on a 4th grade level.. A rather "simple" man... I don't have a low IQ because of it.. I know sooo many smart people with idiot parents... There goes your argument

Illiteracy can be a function of lack of education, instead of IQ. And i'm here is the states bro, so you don't have to inform me of anything.

I also went to the same school system every other black kid went to yet somehow here I am with 130 IQ, actuarial science major talking about politics on the internet in between homework. Where are my black American friends? (and some white ones too) drop-outs, bullshit majors, some have kids etc. This is because I came from the creme of the African population while they are members of a population with 85 average IQ.

And its hereditary, my dad is also high IQ as is my brother etc. Its generally agreed that IQ is .5 to .8 genetic.

Do you know what causes low IQ? Lack of education. How do you expect Nigeria's IQ to be higher than the West when so many people are uneducated.
India also has a low average nationwide IQ because they have a lot of uneducated people as well but the ones who live in the West are running circles around white children. Most of the big technological companies are made up of Indian people. If you told an Indian person that he was dumber than the average person, he wouldn't believe you.
Africa's main problem is self-hate. When you actually start to believe that you're dumber than someone, it become true. Studies have found that British Nigerians do 20% better in school than the average British kid. Nigerian Americans are also the most educated immigrant group in the US. For the people on this thread, my message to you is that you shouldn't let anyone tell you are dumb because of the colour of your skin. It simply isn't true.

kleek:
Illiteracy can be a function of lack of education, instead of IQ. And i'm here is the states bro, so you don't have to inform me of anything.

I also went to the same school system every other black kid went to yet somehow here I am with 130 IQ, actuarial science major talking about politics on the internet in between homework. Where are my black American friends? (and some white ones too) drop-outs, bullshit majors, some have kids etc. This is because I came from the creme of the African population while they are members of a population with 85 average IQ.

And its hereditary, my dad is also high IQ as is my brother etc. Its generally agreed that IQ is .5 to .8 genetic.

OMG brother... Now that I know you are here in the United States.. PLEASE STOP COONING.. For some of my Nigerian brothers and sisters... COONING is slang for a black person who has no issue lifting the white race at expense of his own amongst other things... Since you are in the USA you know that there are an ENDLESS SUPPLY of dumb white people.. Your friends are bottom dwellers due to many factors... Lack of ambition, lazy, poor economic situation or a less then ideal social environment... Like others have said.. Africa is capable... Nigerians that come to the USA aren't the creme if the crop... Stop insulting your countrymen... I'm Black American and even I'm offended by that! You just simply had a opportunity to come over where others didn't.... Your argument isn't factual AT ALL... .5 to .8 genetic? That's practically NOTHING.. even if you can prove it true IQ isn't hereditary... The white man was born smarter then blacks .... You give them far too much credit.. it is you with the inferiority complex.... Black Americans have issues.. but we damn sure don't have issues with a lack of IQ... I have far too many life experiences too know that's bullshit... I have a bachelors in Business working on my masters... My parents were farmers.. never went to school .. your argument is silly...

muafrika:
Kleek,
You are using economic development and consequences of its lack as a testament to your theory. We are telling you the economics of our world have factors at play, carefully protected, because our economic system is designed like a pyramid, with Africa, the source of free raw materials (because it's not paid for, taxes or other ways) at the base.

There is no room at the top. Intentionally. It's occupied by our colonialists. Who have mining rights over the entire continent (hence the joke of GDP being increased with no effect on the people. The increased mineral exploitation does have a positive effect else where; in commodity markets of Switzerland and it's good citizens getting employed in the same market, it greatly benefits European industries and people where it's further sent for refining and production of petroleum products. Our petroleum industry ensures jobs. Just, not in Africa. Not just oil. All minerals HAVE TO pass through the same process and countries.

Your theory is faulty. Presumptuous.

We never got independence, Just a whitewashed political deal by the way. Well get independence when well be able to determine our own economics., culture, and politics.

NB: Ethiopia has no oil.

THIS SUMS IT UP PERFECTLY..

Patterson504:
OMG brother... Now that I know you are here in the United States.. PLEASE STOP COONING.. For some of my Nigerian brothers and sisters... COONING is slang for a black person who has no issue lifting the white race at expense of his own amongst other things... Since you are in the USA you know that there are an ENDLESS SUPPLY of dumb white people.. Your friends are bottom dwellers due to many factors... Lack of ambition, lazy, poor economic situation or a less then ideal social environment... Like others have said.. Africa is capable... Nigerians that come to the USA aren't the creme if the crop... Stop insulting your countrymen... I'm Black American and even I'm offended by that! You just simply had a opportunity to come over where others didn't.... Your argument isn't factual AT ALL... .5 to .8 genetic? That's practically NOTHING.. even if you can prove it true IQ isn't hereditary... The white man was born smarter then blacks .... You give them far too much credit.. it is you with the inferiority complex.... Black Americans have issues.. but we damn sure don't have issues with a lack of IQ... I have far too many life experiences too know that's bullshit... I have a bachelors in Business working on my masters... My parents were farmers.. never went to school .. your argument is silly...

First off, WHO CARES ABOUT WHITE PEOPLE. This is what makes niggas so damn dysfunctional everything is about white people, white people this, white people that, you uplift whites bla bla bla. Move the Bleep on. When i look at black issues, i'm thinking about what black people need. Get white people out of the back of your mind for a second, and suddenly all this "coon" "uncle tom" bla bla don't mean sht.

Anyway, Im not going to go back and forth with you about this. Black people need eugenics, this is gunna come up again within the next 50 years, and when it does it wont be out of love.