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Re: Obaship Crisis Rocks Yorubas In FCT by masseratti: 2:07pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
Afam4eva:if you cannot get the answer from what I wrote,am sorry I can't help you and others liking your post..I think this is simple enough for you to comprehend. |
Re: Obaship Crisis Rocks Yorubas In FCT by babestella: 3:20pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
I never knew yorubas have obas outside their own land. So why crucify igbos. Hmmm.. Hypocrisy. |
Re: Obaship Crisis Rocks Yorubas In FCT by patrick89(m): 3:49pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
The level of hypocrisy among yoruba is chagrin! this people are vultures, They accuse Igbos of everything that they are doing worst too!! 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Obaship Crisis Rocks Yorubas In FCT by Bluffly: 4:31pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
These are obviously set of people who taught they have cleverly crafted a pot of milk for themselves. Imagine during any election, they will claim they are pressure groups to consider for vote etc.They are thieves. Anyway, what do one expect of a lawless country. |
Re: Obaship Crisis Rocks Yorubas In FCT by Eluwilussit(m): 4:34pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
mazzi: Will u blame them, if they do? Not long ago, they were maligned here for having an eze Igbo in a Yoruba enclave. Little did anyone realize that we also have obas outside the Yoruba kingdom. Double standard, hypocrisy and tribalism have killed us. We need a national awakening. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Obaship Crisis Rocks Yorubas In FCT by dewstar: 5:20pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
StuntingBlack: Do not throw stones if you live in a glass house. You point a finger at others, four more are pointing back at you. Ignorance and hypocrisy are killer diseases. Purge yourself today or you die slow. |
Re: Obaship Crisis Rocks Yorubas In FCT by dewstar: 5:33pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
Kassidy90: You are brave and honest. Respect for this. |
Re: Obaship Crisis Rocks Yorubas In FCT by dewstar: 5:40pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
daretodiffer: That is why it is wise to always look before you leap. Before you mock others, take a good look at yourself first. This goes to both the Igbos and Yorubas that spend all their days senselessly mocking themselves on this forum and elsewhere. Don't forget that God is the ultimate mocker. N.B. Ignorance is no excuse. |
Re: Obaship Crisis Rocks Yorubas In FCT by Nobody: 5:49pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
StuntingBlack: Hmmmm, so Yoruba de struggle for leadership in another man's land 2 Likes |
Re: Obaship Crisis Rocks Yorubas In FCT by macof(m): 6:01pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
Afam4eva: Eze igbo outside Igboland are recognized by Igbos Yorubas don't recognize any Tom dick and Harry as Oba. Obaship is too prestigious to just apply to any jobless nuisance I doubt if there's really any Oba yoruba of Abuja in existence. . Like I said, I've never heard such in my life. .. I won't be surprised if it's all made up to ridicule the yoruba people 1 Like |
Re: Obaship Crisis Rocks Yorubas In FCT by Nobody: 6:02pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
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Re: Obaship Crisis Rocks Yorubas In FCT by macof(m): 6:06pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
basilo101: They don't have to be recognized by laws from the east, they are already recognized by people from the east. Different from this acclaimed "Oba yoruba" Only a fool that doesn't know what it means to be Oba, calls himself Oba of yoruba in a community where there are more non yorubas than yorubas. ..cus an Oba is king to everyone in the entire land. I don't blame you mofos, you probably made this all up to ridicule the yoruba |
Re: Obaship Crisis Rocks Yorubas In FCT by Afam4eva(m): 6:11pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
macof:Recognized by which Igbos? If anything they're recognized by the government of the state where they're domiciled. An Eze Ndigbo Lagos for instance cannot attend a meeting of Ezes in Igboland. We know where our land and ends. The fact that you've never heard of Oba of Abuja before doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You can feign ignorance all you want but the reality is what you see on this thread. I will always advise you to resist from making statements such as the one you made about Eze Ndigbo outside Igboland being recognized by Igbos. You are not Igbo and as such have a second hand knowledge of Igbo affairs. Next time ask questions. 1 Like |
Re: Obaship Crisis Rocks Yorubas In FCT by macof(m): 6:24pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
Afam4eva: Oh pls! Eze Ndigbo are appointed by fellow igbo people in their host town. When the igbos feel they face a problem the Eze represents them and presents their case to relevant authorities. That's why the host states recognize them. .. why else would that happen if the igbos don't recognize them first? Oba of yoruba, on the other hand is not recognized by anybody. Oba of yoruba Abuja doesn't represent me or any yoruba in Abuja. .and the FCT would never recognize such a man. I stil say Oba of yoruba doesn't exist. . Its all made up by someone(or people) looking to ridicule the yoruba |
Re: Obaship Crisis Rocks Yorubas In FCT by madenigga(m): 6:38pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
macof:see this mumu lieing thief, I hv this very strong belief that oduduwa was a cursed liar... I guess the oba of abuja is an igbo man in yoruba man disguise. Cowards. |
Re: Obaship Crisis Rocks Yorubas In FCT by macof(m): 6:56pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
madenigga: and you go as far as insulting a yoruba ancestor. . See why people hate you igbos? ? When has anyone insulted ur ancestors? Most of whom you don't even know What's my business with him? His Obaship makes no sense as an Oba rules over all people of the land not a few people. Who made him Oba? What do we even need an Oba yoruba in Abuja for? I don't believe a yoruba man can disgrace the yoruba like this |
Re: Obaship Crisis Rocks Yorubas In FCT by rhames(m): 6:57pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
Olaedo1: this is how they continue to disgrace a whole race by parading themselves as their representatives.These people have not impacted on any body's life and dont care if all Yorubas are locked up in any cell. The major cause if this problem is was he even elected by the Yorubas in the FCT? |
Re: Obaship Crisis Rocks Yorubas In FCT by Nobody: 7:47pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
dewstar: Why did you quote me? Any true born and bred Yoruba will never contest or submit to that Oba. In fact he should be arrested sef 1 Like |
Re: Obaship Crisis Rocks Yorubas In FCT by Nobody: 8:01pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
rhames: Obas are not elected |
Re: Obaship Crisis Rocks Yorubas In FCT by dewstar: 8:22pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
daretodiffer: It's obvious from the op that the obaship in question did not start yesterday. The fact that you have been so ignorant about it all this while does not mean it has not always been there. Are you trying to tell me the subjects and people submitting to the oba there in abuja all these while are not true bred Yorubas, are you more Yoruba than them? If the Obaship over there is not taken serious, why then are they fighting over it? Be reminded that the Oba was elected by the Yorubas in the FTC, off course you are more Yoruba than them. Are you also saying your Obas down here have been as ignorant as you are about these other obas up there in the north? Give yourself the answers to these question and stop living in denial and pretense. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Obaship Crisis Rocks Yorubas In FCT by Nobody: 8:50pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
funkiebully: It's even amazing how these pples' music artistes(Tiwa Savage n co) were screaming on DSTV saying; "Say No To Xenophobia!" during S/A vs Nigerian saga last yr but have refused to say anything about this on going Igbophobia in Western lands. |
Re: Obaship Crisis Rocks Yorubas In FCT by chidinwachukwu(m): 1:56am On Dec 05, 2015 |
tinobrace:Idi...iot of no Comparison. see these yoruber's that share ancestry with Chimpanzees and gorillas.sometimes I wonder you people and Gorillas who black pass,with you flat ugly nose.Ewu |
Re: Obaship Crisis Rocks Yorubas In FCT by madenigga(m): 8:02am On Dec 05, 2015 |
macof:but if its igbos immediately u guys wud start shouting crucify him... crucify him. |
Re: Obaship Crisis Rocks Yorubas In FCT by macof(m): 8:30am On Dec 05, 2015 |
madenigga: And you've not seen yorubas bashing him here |
Re: Obaship Crisis Rocks Yorubas In FCT by Nobody: 9:29am On Dec 05, 2015 |
raumdeuter: You have no shame at all, look at Yorubas struggling for Oba title in faraway Gwari land, why don't you respect ya host? You come here everyday to tell us that Yorubas don't do titles outside their land but you see ya life now? Yes, check the shapes of their heads, I am sure they would be like large cones, also check for tiger scratches, lol. |
Re: Obaship Crisis Rocks Yorubas In FCT by Nobody: 6:03pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
quote author=Truthbeatslies post=104524838]The true history of the yoruba: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llporKrPsbU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2hU-ibkPfg Please kindly help me locate one of these 5 things: 1) ife empire 2) bight of ife 3) bight of yoruba 4) ife battle against britain 5) ife republic[/quote] |
Re: Obaship Crisis Rocks Yorubas In FCT by TAO11(f): 7:09pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
DEBUNKED! Truthbeatslies:I have debunked this false video many, many times. See one of my comments below: (1) Regarding your bitter lies about the trans-Atlantic slave trade, the following piece-by-piece devastating refutation: (A) Contrary to your ignorance, captives weren’t taken from “all across Africa” as you imagined. Rather, captives were taken from Central Africa and West Africa — including people from Benin kingdom whom the Nupe, the Ibadan, Ogedengbe, etc. raided. (B) Contrary to your ignorance, the Yoruba people have long been known by the name Yoruba (and they’ve been living in their present homeland) for centuries prior to the period when ex-captives began to be returned to Africa. We know this because the process of returning ex-captives back ‘home’ to West Africa didn’t begin until circa the late-1700s. Whereas, there are manuscripts written in the early-1600s which list Yorubas (by their name Yoruba) among some of the ethnic groups of our region of West Africa. This manuscript which was written by Ahmed Baba in 1615 is attached below. The name Yoruba is shown in red highlight (among the other ethnic groups) as can be seen in the original manuscript as well as in the translation embedded below respectively: www.nairaland.com/attachments/12934148_5117c6d550154217817d7c66b5fa0fe6_jpeg_jpeg2a73d5172c14cf7a7da91ff200688e3e www.nairaland.com/attachments/12934147_3336ed29985b499e82c4e140b455b9fa_jpeg_jpeg62ecafabb59c692d4ba471597fdf16bb This translation was prepared by John Hunwick and Fatima Harrak for The Institute of African Studies Rabat, Morocco Oh, I should add that we know that this manuscript was written by Ahmad Baba in the year 1615 because he himself penned his date as highlighted (in the attached verso) below: www.nairaland.com/attachments/13082305_6e49d8d129844a578af9272699e1586a_jpeg_jpeg2d5891d724a6428e2c0f4e6898bd60cc The highlight here literally shows the wording “(the year) one thousand and twenty four (of the Hijrah)”. When converted from this Hijri “AH” calendar into our Gregorian “AD” calendar; the year 1024 AH falls into the year 1615 AD The formula “D = 0.9692*H + 622” proves practically useful for this conversion. In sum, your falsehood that returned-slaves (from all across Africa) are what became known as Yorubas is nothing but a but-hurt lie from a depressed bald-head. (C) These ex-captives who were of West-African origin and Central African origin were repatriated directly to Sierra-Leone and Liberia. Some began a new life there, while some decided to go back to their homeland from which they were taken ab-initio. Nobody was repatriated to south-West Nigeria, bald-head. A number of Yorubas among the returnees chose to return back to Yorubaland — just as many others who returned to their respective original homeland. (2) The only ethnic-group whom I know of who couldn’t fight their way to freedom and be returned back to Africa are ……. [take a guess]. They couldn’t think of returning until about 400 years later when some of their descendants decided to tap into the science of Genetics as a guide to finding their way back home. ~ See video. below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxDve0rwQbM The two attachments below also shows some earlier corroborative confessions made available to Dr. R. E. Bradbury by these people themselves. www.nairaland.com/attachments/12996709_af6378be36104010b036a2f7ab4096cd_jpeg_jpeg07ca8a3f5b191f4126cdcd6bf2f7faf7 www.nairaland.com/attachments/12996710_b28de88ee10a4b7a83b95532f6609396_jpeg_jpegaca1a6203806c9d893c79b42b9a6c76e [s]Please kindly help me locate one of these 5 things: (1) “Occupying a key site on the route from the Bend to Ife, Oyo was probably one of the earliest-founded provincial capitals in the Ife empire.” ~ Robin Horton, “Ancient Ife,” (1979), p.115. (2) A ”bight” is a feature of a water body (Atlantic ocean in this case). Ife, in contrast, is deep in the Yoruba interior. It is in no way near the Atlantic coast. How could the 1400s Portuguese then have named a part of the Atlantic Ocean (the bight) after it? You see your life? See how you embarrassed yourself, family and friends. (3) Yoruba is not one kingdom. It is a land of free-borns, where each of its many kingdoms has got some sovereignty. As such, the bight could not have been named after a land as a whole. It was named after one of the two major polities near the coast — particularly the one which the Portuguese first had trade relations with. Of the two major kingdoms near the coast in the late 1400s when the Portuguese first arrived, only Benin kingdom was willing to sell its people. The bight was thus named after that kingdom whom they knew. *It wasn’t until in the 1520s before Benin embargoed the sale of its men (allowing only women) due to fear of depopulation of able-bodied men. (4) First of all, Britain didn’t have any fight with Benin. It was a punishment, not a fight. It is called a “punitive expedition” for a reason. A punishment in relation to which Ovoramwen recanted and trembled in court. Imaging “canning” a child as a punitive measure for mis-behaviors, and then the child suddenly turning around to say s(he) had a fight with you. No be juju be that? There was no reason to punish Ife, hence no such expedition happened there. Instead, they helped to end the ongoing wars within Yorubaland. (5) The country called Benin Republic did not take its name from Benin kingdom. Neither does it relate to Benin kingdom. The country’s former name was “Dahomey” — a name which doesn’t reflect the diverse ethnicities in the country. The name “Benin” (after the bight which the country sits on) was then settled for due to its neutrality. “In the late 19th century French colonizers making inroads from the coastal region into the interior borrowed the name of the defeated Dahomey kingdom for the entire territory that is now Benin; the current name derives from the Bight of Benin” ~ https://www.britannica.com/place/Benin In contrast, an entire group of people in today’s Togo, have insisted to be known by the name IFE. Yes, it is the “Ife” of present Nigeria they want to be associated with. Yoruba language is being spoken in Benin Republic. Tell me where (outside of Edo state) Bini language is beinig spoken. Peace! |
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