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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by leksbore(m): 7:49pm On Dec 11, 2015
4instance:
Good day @op and everyone reading this thread, please i need YOUR HELP!!!!!!!!! Im under DEMONIC AND WITCHCRAFT ATTACK!!!! it all started even before i was born. My mother almost aborted me when i was in her womb, my dad gave her money to abort me and when she got to the hospital the advice her to live the baby because it was already late [six months old] and ever since i have encounter life threatening situation ,and there's this sickness that's plaguing me for the past 14 years i have gone to countless native doctors, herbalist and some churches yet no cure!! there was a time i almost committed suicide but God saved me. and this year alone i almost died thrice, the first attack came during midnite my heart stop beating and could only breath out but not in, then the other attack came in the afternoon around three pm my nose was blocked completely so i hard to use my mouth to breath for complete NINE HOURS!!! if it wasn't for my mother who prayed for me i would have died that day! she prayed for good three hours and GOD restored my breathing !!!!! last week i went to see a mallam whom friend introdued me to he said that my destiny has been stolen and replaced with another person and he[the person] is using the destiny!!!! please i need a good church where i can do deliverance!!! pleaase guyss if you know any church that do deliverance please let me know because im dying inside and im feeding from hand to mouth! God Bless you!!

locate mountain of fire sharperly .

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by vooks: 7:58pm On Dec 11, 2015
Great0:
This vooks is soo stubborn. My dear you have not grown just that you pack a lot of knowledge without a work, done in you. We dont need arguement here please.
Thank you Great0 for your kind words
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 7:59pm On Dec 11, 2015
Busybody2:
Group hug EVERYONE now!!!

We are all one body in Christ and can all agree to disagree, and come back together as ONE. Even the Bible says if our enemy is hungry we should feed him, how much more we who are the salt and light of the world...We are all here to read and learn so there is bound to be crosswires sometimes but we can all still shake hands and make merry over it...I was asking CharlyG and Nnamdi earlier about the need for spiritual warfare because since I discovered the authority in the name of Jesus Christ, all i have to do is speak the word and IT IS DONE/SETTLED/FINISHED so I don't see the need to wrestle a powerless, useless entity who is already under my feet in the name of Jesus...but time constraint couldn't let me see the exchange to the end...


May God's grace continue to abound in our lives as we study to show ourselves approved in Jesus' name. And may God keep opening the eyes of our understanding and keep enlightening us in Jesus' name. And may the peace of God and joy that flows like a river permeate all over this thread and saturate it in Jesus' name, Amen.
thank you. sister in Christ.. God says this thing you know cannot be taken away from you. read luke 10 ,the last 2 verses

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Busybody2(f): 8:05pm On Dec 11, 2015
ccollins:
thank you. sister in Christ.. God says this thing you know cannot be taken away from you. read luke 10 ,the last 2 verses

Amen in Jesus' name Sir.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by oyeludef(m): 8:21pm On Dec 11, 2015
@ vooks, I am of the opinion that since it was impossible for man to enter perfection b4 Jesus Christ came, probably God judged perfection of man based on different standard. Looking at those whom God made covenant with in d scripture b4 d coming of Jesus, non could b said to b actually morally perfect. D first covenant was with Adam which was actually incomplete because it wasn't sealed so lets Forget it. D second is noah who is actually d subject matter of discourse sealed with a rainbow, d third is Abraham who only believed God and God counted it to him as righteousness, God made covenant with an imperfect children of Israel and he sealed it with d law (tables of stone in d ark of covenant) God made covenant with the David and even regarded him as d man after God's heart.
I believe noah perfection was as a result of his genetic cleanliness. Forget all we were taught and read d book of Genesis 6 and seven. God specifically told Noah to build the ark for his family and God gave him d dimensions because of the animals that were gonna come in. Remember that it took about 30yrs for this ark to be built nd completed. Non of the child of noah had a child wen dey were entering d ark so it is possible dey quickly got married. I am not dogmatic in dis my theory o but i think its a bit logical.
You may still want to question why God will allow an impure seed into the ark but remember that even Christ said in a parable that it is at d end he is gonna separate the sheep from the goat but for the time he will allow them grow together (speaking of the Church)
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 8:27pm On Dec 11, 2015
vooks:
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Thank you ccollins,
You are a wise young man. Let no one despise your youth.

Concerning this verse, my points were;
1. Only genuine born again Christians can prophesy,heal and perform miracles or (spiritual gifts in short) the name of Jesus Christ
2. Sin does not automatically extinguish spiritual gift in you
3. Many believers operating in the spiritual gifts will STILL end up in hell

Among others this means operation of spiritual gifts is no measure of maturity in Christ not the quality of your relationship with Him. This is therefore a stern warning to those of us who adore gifts as an end in themselves.

Let us not be mesmerized by the Gifts to the extent of forgetting our relationship with the Giver.

It will be sad when the Gifted appeal to their Gifts only for the Giver to reject them. Imagine exercising a Gift yet the Giver does not know me
thank you brother /sir.. now let's face it this way, gifts are secondary but then your relationship with God primary also obedience.. 1 Corinthians 13 should satisfy and affirm this statements from you, hope you do because I pratice them atimes and its lead me to being outcast or stupid atimes
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by vooks: 8:38pm On Dec 11, 2015
ccollins:
thank you brother /sir.. now let's face it this way, gifts are secondary but then your relationship with God primary also obedience.. 1 Corinthians 13 should satisfy and affirm this statements from you, hope you do because I pratice them atimes and its lead me to being outcast or stupid atimes

I agree totally.
The very first time spiritual gifts manifested, some mistook them for effects of inebriation. If you are convicted of he the Spirit, please exercise the gift. May the Lord give us wisdom in operating in His Gifts
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 8:40pm On Dec 11, 2015
vooks:


I agree totally.
The very first time spiritual gifts manifested, some mistook them for effects of inebriation. If you are convicted of he the Spirit, please exercise the gift. May the Lord give us wisdom in operating in His Gifts
Amen
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 8:54pm On Dec 11, 2015
Busybody2:


Amen in Jesus' name Sir.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Nobody: 9:24pm On Dec 11, 2015
Very interesting and scary. Just can't stop following. @ charlyg, the whole thing you said about masturbation is true. I experienced it
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by okparea(m): 10:41pm On Dec 11, 2015
ccollins:
you mean you were given 30 years limit but by who

when i get to 30 i have to be in control and working for God .. i'm a dreamer and everything do happen in a vision
learn to seek God face more and pray in a school park isolate yourself from people you will hear God voice
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by vooks: 7:56am On Dec 12, 2015
oyeludef:
@ vooks, I am of the opinion that since it was impossible for man to enter perfection b4 Jesus Christ came, probably God judged perfection of man based on different standard. Looking at those whom God made covenant with in d scripture b4 d coming of Jesus, non could b said to b actually morally perfect. D first covenant was with Adam which was actually incomplete because it wasn't sealed so lets Forget it. D second is noah who is actually d subject matter of discourse sealed with a rainbow, d third is Abraham who only believed God and God counted it to him as righteousness, God made covenant with an imperfect children of Israel and he sealed it with d law (tables of stone in d ark of covenant) God made covenant with the David and even regarded him as d man after God's heart.
I believe noah perfection was as a result of his genetic cleanliness.
If I understand your rationale,
1. There was no perfection BEFORE Calvary
2. Noah was called perfect BEFORE Calvary

Conclusion
Noah's perfection had nothing to do with morality or at least it was of a different standard. It MAY have been genetic

This is excellent reasoning. Why I reject it is because before Jesus, there were one too many characters described in exact terms. For instance

Job 1:1 (ESV)
1 There was a man in the land of Uz whose name was Job, and that man was blameless and upright, one who feared God and turned away from evil.

Luke 1:6 (ESV)
6 And they were both righteous before God, walking blamelessly in all the commandments and statutes of the Lord


The point is there were good men before the cross who pleased God, who would be called perfect.

One ONLY reads genetic purity in Noah if they have purposed to in the first place. This is eisegesis or reading INTO a text instead of exegesis; reading FROM the text

Forget all we were taught and read d book of Genesis 6 and seven. God specifically told Noah to build the ark for his family and God gave him d dimensions because of the animals that were gonna come in. Remember that it took about 30yrs for this ark to be built nd completed. Non of the child of noah had a child wen dey were entering d ark so it is possible dey quickly got married. I am not dogmatic in dis my theory o but i think its a bit logical.
Something I noted about those times of long lifespan, marriage happened 'late'. For instance, from Genesis 5, Methuselah sired Lamech when he was 187 and Lamech sired Noah when he was 182. Noah sired Shem,Ham and Japhet when he was 500 years!

Noah got to the ark when he was 600 years (7:11) meaning Shem,Ham and Japhet were aged maximum 100 years. Since they got to the ark married,they must have married within their first 100 years yet they were still childless

You may still want to question why God will allow an impure seed into the ark but remember that even Christ said in a parable that it is at d end he is gonna separate the sheep from the goat but for the time he will allow them grow together (speaking of the Church)
Your analogy is flawed because God suffers impurity to thrive so He can judge them later but with Noah, He judges/destroys 'impure seed' and at the same time SAVES some of it from His own wrath

Think about God judging Sodom for homosexuality by raining sulphur. But he hides some homos from the sulphur to destroy them at a later date while saving the non-homos. So He basically destroys homos and saves homos and non-homos

Sir, with all due respect this does not make sense.

If God was wroth with humanity because of 'impure seed' and He sets to destroy it, then saving some 'impure seed' is out of question.

It would only make sense if eliminating 'impure seed' was never the objective in the first place. This would in turn mean sleeping with angels is cool. And if sleeping with angels is cool, then the angels who are said to be imprisoned should not be there or they are there for something other than sex with women

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by talktokayoo(m): 8:03am On Dec 12, 2015
CharlyG1:



The purpose of this thread has been mentioned on page 1. It is to expose the hidden works of satan and his demons not to glorify the enemy. Maybe you should check the topic of this thread again. If you feel this is too much for you, kindly click the un-follow button.

God has given people spiritual insight and several spiritual gifts, this thread serves as a medium to spread the word of God and expose the deceits and the operations of the satanic kingdom. Not many people can digest things like this. If you don't have experiences or testimonies like people on the thread, why do you try to make a bad impression about people's stories? because you don't have any of these experiences??


Everything here is based solely on revelation and the word of God. This thread helps to re-connect people back to Christ; making them see how satan works against them if they continue in sin. And if the thread closes today, I'll still be glad with what God has done in people's lives via this thread.

I would only advise you to be careful about the way you speak. You seem to have a loose tongue and a haughty spirit, always too fast to speak non stop.

Maybe this is too much for you to take in. Maybe you should listen more to people and stop assuming you're Mr Perfect.

Brethren God has called us to peace and love. And where the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty. No true son of God should and will intentionally glorify the devil. One way or the other let us all be edified.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 8:21am On Dec 12, 2015
Busybody2:

Amen in Jesus' name Sir.
have gotten your message and sent a reply
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 8:34am On Dec 12, 2015
talktokayoo:


Brethren God has called us to peace and love. And where the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty. No true son of God should and will intentionally glorify the devil. One way or the other let us all be edified.
good morning sir, we all learning from Charles but my own stance is that it should not be to propagate fear.. if his messages are not said, how will yokes be broken and people under demonic oppression as we have seen some who posted on this thread know that Jesus who charles also talks about has all power and authority.. remember its not only saints and believers that visit this thread but also diabolical people and those blinded by satan... we glorify God for Charles works through the power of God Almighty and not condemn it... read revelation 12 vrs 10-12 ,

10
“Now have come the salvation and the power
and the kingdom of our God,
and the authority of his Messiah.
For the accuser of our brothers and sisters,
who accuses them before our God day and night,
has been hurled down.
They triumphed over him
11
by the blood of the Lamb
and by the word of their testimony;
they did not love their lives so much
as to shrink from death.

Therefore rejoice, you heavens 12 and you who dwell in them!
But woe to the earth and the sea,
because the devil has gone down to you!
He is filled with fury,
because he knows that his time is short.”

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by CharlyG1: 12:05pm On Dec 12, 2015
Busybody2:
Group hug EVERYONE now!!!

We are all one body in Christ and can all agree to disagree, and come back together as ONE. Even the Bible says if our enemy is hungry we should feed him, how much more we who are the salt and light of the world...We are all here to read and learn so there is bound to be crosswires sometimes but we can all still shake hands and make merry over it...I was asking CharlyG and Nnamdi earlier about the need for spiritual warfare because since I discovered the authority in the name of Jesus Christ, all i have to do is speak the word and IT IS DONE/SETTLED/FINISHED so I don't see the need to wrestle a powerless, useless entity who is already under my feet in the name of Jesus, so I wanted to pick their brain to see if perhaps i was doing it the wrong way, but time constraint couldn't let me see the exchange to the end...


May God's grace continue to abound in our lives as we study to show ourselves approved in Jesus' name. And may God keep opening the eyes of our understanding and keep enlightening us in Jesus' name. And may the peace of God and joy that flows like a river permeate all over this thread and saturate it in Jesus' name, Amen.

Hello Dear, where have you been? smiley

Amen to all your prayers. We pray the same for you. God loves you.

Remain blessed smiley
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by CharlyG1: 1:41pm On Dec 12, 2015
The thread will continue to thrive as long as God is here..

After my posts on 'Demons', I received a revelation from God, revealing to me more on how the enemy operates.
I tell you, God is interested in this thread. It's all to HIS glory.

There are people on this thread who have already been delivered from the oppression of Satan and there are people here that will be delivered from the spirit of homosexuality.

This is the first part.




Yesterday in the morning at about 4am-6am. I dreamt a dream.

In that dream, there was a man named Cornelius who had a monkey. He was in a city where a powerful dictator ruled. There was no free entry and free exit out of this city.. Cornelius wanted to escape out of this small city because people who were there were slaves(him too) and they had no free will of their own.


I believe this revelation is a mirror of the dream I shared on the thread about God using me to wrestle a powerful dictator.

Back to the dream,



Cornelius saw the big gates opened for the first time and when he tried to escape, a wicked woman who was an agent of the dictator noticed him and rang a very large bell(like the ones hung up on the wall in churches). All of a sudden this bell alarm alerted the dictator who started running, mounted on a horse towards Cornelius. Cornelius was in fear and couldn't do much because the gate was closing already, so he just stood in front of the gate in fear but he managed to squeeze in tight and escape as the gates closed.


The rider and it's horse out of anger mistakenly smashed the big gates opened, which now made the monkey escape too.
Then the dictator came down from his horse and called about 3 of his soldiers to catch Cornelius.. He called his soldiers and shouted 'Go and get that Wansla(or Wansler)'.. I heard in my spirit that Wansla meant 'He who runs away'..
The soldiers pursued Cornelius into the bush..




After this dream... I was shown another scene.

In this scene, I was in a bus filled with a number of people I did not recognize facially. The only person i recognized was my brother who sat at the extreme back seat. I sat in the front, close to the driver of the bus. I paid a hefty amount for the T-fare..


We were in the move when we saw some bad/corrupt police trying to stop our vehicle. The driver was a no-nonsense man, the driver swerved the bus many times dodging the police. .. But we now saw a group of people standing in the middle of the road; demons & police waiting for us. The driver now slowly stopped the car and everyone came down in fear..


There was this particular demon, he stretched forth his hand pointing to my brother, letting the driver know he needed him (my brother). The demon had some kind of authority or right that I couldn't understand. It was like he was entitled to some things or so.
The demon took my brother and was talking to him in a friendly manner, but my brother felt very uncomfortable. Everyone mounted the bus again, no one wanted to do anything because of fear.



I was pained in my spirit, my own brother? I could see the demon put his hands all over him in a sexually disgusting manner.. My brother seemed quite fairer than usual in this dream and the demon seemed too black, an inhumanly color and appearance.

The bus started moving.. I couldn't bear it. I told the driver to stop, I was going to rescue my bro. I came down and I traced the demon to where he was(for i had seen in the spirit the road the demon took).




I got to the abode of the demon, it was an old helicopter parked by the side of a lonely road. The helicopter seemed to be out of use and it was damaged. When i entered into the helicopter, it seemed quite larger and looked exactly like a house with sooo much space. What my eyes saw really disgust me.

I saw human beings, they were all males who the demon had taken as victims earlier on.. They were dead or looked dead, some of their heads looked like it was off their bodies and their bodies looked they had been there for a very long time, cold and almost decaying.


I saw the demon sleeping beside my brother in a sexual manner. There was a a bunch of keys beside them. My brother looked half dead already.

I quietly grabbed my sleeping brother and grabbed the keys too and started to run.




As I was running out of the helicopter, the demon woke up and furiously chased me. My brother slowed me down for he was very heavy.
The demon kept chasing; when I saw he was very close to catching me.. I started shouting for help.. 'Help! 'Help!..
In my spirit, I saw a lady from the bus come down and run towards my direction to assist me.


I cried for help in order to make the demon desist from chasing me. But this demon started to shout for help too, faking it, just to cover up.


I kept running. When the demon felt he was losing out. He started speaking hurriedly in anger 'You can take the body, just give me the keys'!!! 'You can take the body, just give me the keys'!!! .. He kept saying it faster in desperation, begging.

I ignored him and kept running. The sister (lady) who was coming to assist me was now nearby, the demon started regressing, walking backwards.
Then I woke up and prayed. Praise God!


This dream is important and it addresses 'Homosexuality'..
There are people in this sin and people who Satan wants to capture as victims into this sin..
The keys i grabbed was the 'Legal right/authority' the demon had over my brother and it's victims. That means the demon will no longer have access to those people.


Homosexuality is not from God. God condemns it with great distaste(Leviticus 18:22; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10).

I decree in the Name and by the authority that is in the Name of Jesus, may people be delivered from the spirit of homosexuality in Jesus Name.. amen.. The snare is broken and we have escaped (psalms 124 vs 7)




The first dream is talking about people in the trap of their enemies. People trapped with sin, who have not accepted Jesus.
Cornelius was a man in the bible who had great zeal to know God and because of this zeal He came to know Jesus and be saved(born again). This dream refers to those people who are not yet born-again that will be saved. Through their zeal, God will make them escape from the hands of the enemy.


May the grace of God continue to overshadow us in Jesus Name .. Amen

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by analice107: 5:11pm On Dec 12, 2015
Hello guys. Shiloh is over, am back. our experiences from now henceforth shall be from glory to glory, in Jesus name. Amen.

About Anakims and Nephilims who were both giants.
let's look at it like this, 'All Israelites are Jews, but not all Jews are Israelites'. or the popular saying this days, that, 'All terrorists are Muslims, but not all Muslims are terrorists'
so, Nephilims were giants, but not all giants were Nephilims.
I think the confusion is in the Word 'Giant'.

some folk have concluded that every giant is a descendant of the evil seed of the Nephiplims. It doesn't make sense and that will be insulting Yahwey's intelligence, as Vooks said. Because, that will make the purpose of the flood defeated.
The purpose for which God started off to wipe off mankind in that era in the first place, was to get this evil seed out. For God again to save some of that seed in the genes of Noah's wife and Children, then later commanding them to multiply and fill this same earth, is very unreasonable.
Anyone who believes this, is implying that, Satan was evasive enough to have escaped Yahweh's notice, thus, has continued with his evil schemes. That will make God Omninothing.

The reason for which God wanted the inhabitants of Canaan, Amalek, Hittite, the Amorites, the Hivites, etc, destroyed was for their idol worship, human sacrifice, homosexuality and wickedness. Not because they were Nephilims.

And because, The Israelites will in time be influenced to indulge in the same acts of those perverts. Which we indeed see in the book of Judges 19 down to 21. The Tribe of Benjamin became as evil as the people who dwelled in that land before them. indulging in those wicked and perverted acts against their fellow Israelites.

This argument is stupid to me.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 6:34pm On Dec 12, 2015
analice107:
Hello guys. Shiloh is over, am back. our experiences from now henceforth shall be from glory to glory, in Jesus name. Amen.

About Anakims and Nephilims who were both giants.
let's look at it like this, 'All Israelites are Jews, but not all Jews are Israelites'. or the popular saying this days, that, 'All terrorists are Muslims, but not all Muslims are terrorists'
so, Nephilims were giants, but not all giants were Nephilims.
I think the confusion is in the Word 'Giant'.

some folk have concluded that every giant is a descendant of the evil seed of the Nephiplims. It doesn't make sense and that will be insulting Yahwey's intelligence, as Vooks said. Because, that will make the purpose of the flood defeated.
The purpose for which God started off to wipe off mankind in that era in the first place, was to get this evil seed out. For God again to save some of that seed in the genes of Noah's wife and Children, then later commanding them to multiply and fill this same earth, is very unreasonable.
Anyone who believes this, is implying that, Satan was evasive enough to have escaped Yahweh's notice, thus, has continued with his evil schemes. That will make God Omninothing.

The reason for which God wanted the inhabitants of Canaan, Amalek, Hittite, the Amorites, the Hivites, etc, destroyed was for their idol worship, human sacrifice, homosexuality and wickedness. Not because they were Nephilims.

And because, The Israelites will in time be influenced to indulge in the same acts of those perverts. Which we indeed see in the book of Judges 19 down to 21. The Tribe of Benjamin became as evil as the people who dwelled in that land before them. indulging in those wicked and perverted acts against their fellow Israelites.

This argument is stupid to me.
no need to raise this issue again, read my posts on this subject because you may not be aware of the explanation I posted and let's move on
.how was Shiloh

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by 4instance: 7:37pm On Dec 12, 2015
leksbore:
locate mountain of fire sharperly .
OK thanks
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 8:01pm On Dec 12, 2015
please oo, @ vooks, Charles G,analice, oyedufe, busybody and co, I have a question, somethings have been bothering me in my thoughts and atimes in my spirit man as to why some Bible verses are taken sooo irrelevant or never used in church, we hear about love of God, offerings, law of moses among many others alike but a important Bible verse like this. I have never heard mention of it.. only see. it in bible. seems to most christians. it's not important ( 1 John 3:16-17 New International Version (NIV)
This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid
down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives
for our brothers and sisters. If anyone has material
possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has
no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that
person)

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 8:09pm On Dec 12, 2015
because of this neglect by many christians worldwide. false love is now in vogue every where. God have mercy

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by vooks: 8:15pm On Dec 12, 2015
ccollins:
please oo, @ vooks, Charles G,analice, oyedufe, busybody and co, I have a question, somethings have been bothering me in my thoughts and atimes in my spirit man as to why some Bible verses are taken sooo irrelevant or never used in church, we hear about love of God, offerings, law of moses among many others alike but a important Bible verse like this. I have never heard mention of it.. only see. it in bible. seems to most christians. it's not important ( 1 John 3:16-17 New International Version (NIV)
This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid
down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives
for our brothers and sisters. If anyone has material
possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has
no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that
person)

Ccollins!!
I think there are two reasons some verses or portions of scripture are ignored;
1. Bible illiteracy- the spiritual leader is just shallow, poor bible student and since he can't give what he doesn't have, the scriptures lie dormant
2. Self-centredness- love is essentially sacrificial and there is nowhere this is manifested than in charity. But churches (including mine and myself personally) love the needy far much less than is required of us. Churches may have a budget allocation for the needy but I can assure you it is usually a very tiny fraction of its revenues.

We need to get back to the basics of love and realize we can't possibly love the unseen God more than we love the seen neighbor created in His image.

Selfishness MUST die by fire

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by donnie(m): 8:29pm On Dec 12, 2015
Let me first commend CharlyG1 and other posters here for this inspiring thread. Thank you for your love, patience and commitment towards helping God's people with this thread. I had ignored this thread since it was started because I thought it's the usual demon demon childish excitement of baby Christians. But I found that it isn't having read through about 5 pages and have seen your commitment to the Word of faith.

I will share my own experiences by God's grace but before that, please let me attempt to correct some misunderstanding here using God's Word:

1. SPIRITUAL WARFARE:
EPH 6:12- For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

This subject has been misunderstood by many Christians due to inaccurate understanding of the Word. It is important that we establish here that the christian is not in a fight to defeat the devil or demons for they have already been defeated. They were defeated and publicly disgraced by Jesus and every demon of hell knows that. So to begin to deal with this subject, it must be from the standpoint of us as victors over Satan and his cohorts.

SO WHAT THEN IS THIS "WRESTLING"? YOU MAY ASK?

2Cor 10:4-5 - " For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;
Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;"

That's it!
-Pulling down strongholds: these are contrary mindsets, theories and philosophies.
-Casting down imaginations, every high thing...
- Subduing every thought, wrong emotions etc. that they may conform to Christ (The Word).
Of course many of these thoughts, ideas, philosophy's and mindsets originate from Satan.

THIS IS TRUE SPIRITUAL WARFARE. This is where the battle is toughest!

With one word you can cast out a devil that comes into your house or room. All you need is to be conscious of your position and authority in Christ. I cast out devils a lot so I can tell you. Sometimes i may not even call the name Jesus. . . GET OUT!! .. and they flee.

What many Christians including Hollywood and Nollywood film makers are excited about is just like using bazooka or rocket launcher to kill fly. This is what these demons want... that we make them appear more powerful than they really are.

I remember Pastor Chris told a story years ago of how a demon appeared in his room. He began to say, "in the. . ." and the demon took off! . . . didn't wait for him to finish the sentence.

In spiritual warfare as you'd find in Eph 6:12, you'd need to put on the whole armour using the Word and praying always with all prayer and supplication in the spirit.

Spiritual warfare, involves watching and insisting on THE WORD dominating YOUR MIND and THOUGHTS instead of THE WORLD or THE FLESH.

I have been involved in missions work at Christ Embassy so I know what it is to take a territory out of the hands of demonic principalities and introduce the light of God, insisting that the Word of God takes root in the hearts and minds of men, and righteousness dominates the land and even the atmosphere. It is not a day's job... This is warfare!

As for those spirits that some Christians are scared of, see what the Bible says about Jesus' victory over Satan in hell for our sake:

KJV-
Col 2:15-"And having spoiled principalities and powers, He made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it."

AMP-
Col 2:15- " [God] disarmed the principalities and powers that were ranged against us and made a bold display and public example of them, in triumphing over them in Him and in it [the cross]."

So you see ... It was a public disgrace. And when you stand in the name of Jesus, it is Him (not you) demons see and flee.

Ehen. . . for those of you who are engaging evil spirits and you are still asking stupid questions: whether every christian should speak in tongues?... Okay, you will soon know.

2. DELIVERANCE MINISTRY:
I will not delve much into this as there is no reason to, except of course the posters who mention the term can show me where such was mentioned in the bible.

All Christians are supposed to cast out devils. I have not read of a special ministry for such in the bible. SEE: EPH 4:11

Don't get me wrong, I believed all the testimonies of revelation and discernment gifts I read here (I will share a few of mine too) and i am not trying to be critical here, but I insist, Deliverance Ministry no dey Bible.

Many young ministers have left on their own to start "deliverance ministries" because they thought they had a gift. Stay in the church where God has planted you; humble yourself and be a blessing there. You are not called into the 5-fold ministry (SEE: Eph4:11) simply because you have a gift.

Do not seek to climb the pulpit or struggle microphone with the pastor. If you are given work to do in the house of God, do it with all humility and joyfulness. If you are asked to clean the seats or toilet do it faithfully and watch God promote you Himself.

Also, the Spirit will have me warn here that God is against those who "peep" (as magicians or wizards do).

Isaiah 8:19 19 - "And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that PEEP, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead?"

God reveals things to His children. So don't force yourself.

3. DELIVERANCE FOR CHRISTIANS??

Let's not even go there. . .
Deliverance from who? Receive Christ and His eternal life, study the Word and you will find that there is no rope tying you from anywhere.

Don't forget, I said I cast out devils.

FINALLY, let me once again thank the Op for this inspiring thread, i have been richly blessed, and I pray in Jesus' name that the testimonies will continually abound even as Jesus is glorified.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Tedassie(m): 8:29pm On Dec 12, 2015
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by analice107: 11:54pm On Dec 12, 2015
Thank you @Donnie. That's very insightful.
I really thank God for this thread, a lot is being taught here.

Hey Vooks, how r u doing? am so happy to be back.
You are a well of knowledge, so be patient with us little people. Correct us in love. You know, the Word says in Prov 15: 1 that.
' Soft Words turns away wrath; but grievous words stir up anger'.

We'll try to catch up, you'll see.

I really appreciate you trying to keep us straight with the word. For me personally, you are my best buddy because i love the word. Without the word, Satan will plant so much error that we'll end up getting so lost. That's how religion started anyways. building doctrines out of presumptions.
keep it coming, but do it with love so that we won't out of anger and 'subtile pride, turn away from the truth that should help us.

If not for occasional interference from outsiders, this thread has been very peaceful and smooth sailing. No insults, no tension, unlike other threads. I love my family.

Praise God. The spirit of Christ is here.

have u guys noticed that, Nairaland Famous Atheist haven't been here to bug us? I wonder why that is. Even wen, Busybody mentioned them, they didn't come. Jesus is Victor. Amen.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by vooks: 12:40am On Dec 13, 2015
analice107:
Hello guys. Shiloh is over, am back. our experiences from now henceforth shall be from glory to glory, in Jesus name. Amen.

About Anakims and Nephilims who were both giants.
let's look at it like this, 'All Israelites are Jews, but not all Jews are Israelites'. or the popular saying this days, that, 'All terrorists are Muslims, but not all Muslims are terrorists'
so, Nephilims were giants, but not all giants were Nephilims.
I think the confusion is in the Word 'Giant'.

some folk have concluded that every giant is a descendant of the evil seed of the Nephiplims. It doesn't make sense and that will be insulting Yahwey's intelligence, as Vooks said. Because, that will make the purpose of the flood defeated.
The purpose for which God started off to wipe off mankind in that era in the first place, was to get this evil seed out. For God again to save some of that seed in the genes of Noah's wife and Children, then later commanding them to multiply and fill this same earth, is very unreasonable.
Anyone who believes this, is implying that, Satan was evasive enough to have escaped Yahweh's notice, thus, has continued with his evil schemes. That will make God Omninothing.

The reason for which God wanted the inhabitants of Canaan, Amalek, Hittite, the Amorites, the Hivites, etc, destroyed was for their idol worship, human sacrifice, homosexuality and wickedness. Not because they were Nephilims.

And because, The Israelites will in time be influenced to indulge in the same acts of those perverts. Which we indeed see in the book of Judges 19 down to 21. The Tribe of Benjamin became as evil as the people who dwelled in that land before them. indulging in those wicked and perverted acts against their fellow Israelites.

This argument is stupid to me.

Anas09 this is so true.
Once you have a set mind that there are or were Nephilim in the ark, all you have to do is go on a fishing expedition straining verses to support your beliefs.

I have given verses clearly distinguishing Giants from Nephilim and some won't hear none of that.

Remember the ONLY hint of Nephilim post-Flood is contained in a single verse in an EVIL report by the spies. And it was full of exaggerations. How large would the Giants be in order to feel like a grasshopper? My guess is over 500 times.

There is a very interesting law of science called the square-cube rule which describes the relationship between various physical parameters as volume increases. There are very good reasons you don't and you will NEVER have ten-foot men. The bone structure required to support their weight would be so heavy that no man would have enough strength to move them.

This tells me that even the so called Giants were not that too far off the average man's physical attributes
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by vooks: 12:45am On Dec 13, 2015
analice107:
Thank you @Donnie. That's very insightful.
I really thank God for this thread, a lot is being taught here.

Hey Vooks, how r u doing? am so happy to be back.
You are a well of knowledge, so be patient with us little people. Correct us in love. You know, the Word says in Prov 15: 1 that.
' Soft Words turns away wrath; but grievous words stir up anger'.

We'll try to catch up, you'll see.

I really appreciate you trying to keep us straight with the word. For me personally, you are my best buddy because i love the word. Without the word, Satan will plant so much error that we'll end up getting so lost. That's how religion started anyways. building doctrines out of presumptions.
keep it coming, but do it with love so that we won't out of anger and 'subtile pride, turn away from the truth that should help us.

If not for occasional interference from outsiders, this thread has been very peaceful and smooth sailing. No insults, no tension, unlike other threads. I love my family.

Praise God. The spirit of Christ is here.

have u guys noticed that, Nairaland Famous Atheist haven't been here to bug us? I wonder why that is. Even wen, Busybody mentioned them, they didn't come. Jesus is Victor. Amen.
Thank you for your wise counsel Anas09
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by analice107: 1:28am On Dec 13, 2015
Amen. and good night folk, especially those in my time zone.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by donnie(m): 1:39am On Dec 13, 2015
Thanks analice107.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Nobody: 3:09am On Dec 13, 2015
CharlyG1:
The thread will continue to thrive as long as God is here..

After my posts on 'Demons', I received a revelation from God, revealing to me more on how the enemy operates.
I tell you, God is interested in this thread. It's all to HIS glory.

There are people on this thread who have already been delivered from the oppression of Satan and there are people here that will be delivered from the spirit of homosexuality.

This is the first part.




Yesterday in the morning at about 4am-6am. I dreamt a dream.

In that dream, there was a man named Cornelius who had a monkey. He was in a city where a powerful dictator ruled. There was no free entry and free exit out of this city.. Cornelius wanted to escape out of this small city because people who were there were slaves(him too) and they had no free will of their own.


I believe this revelation is a mirror of the dream I shared on the thread about God using me to wrestle a powerful dictator.

Back to the dream,



Cornelius saw the big gates opened for the first time and when he tried to escape, a wicked woman who was an agent of the dictator noticed him and rang a very large bell(like the ones hung up on the wall in churches). All of a sudden this bell alarm alerted the dictator who started running, mounted on a horse towards Cornelius. Cornelius was in fear and couldn't do much because the gate was closing already, so he just stood in front of the gate in fear but he managed to squeeze in tight and escape as the gates closed.


The rider and it's horse out of anger mistakenly smashed the big gates opened, which now made the monkey escape too.
Then the dictator came down from his horse and called about 3 of his soldiers to catch Cornelius.. He called his soldiers and shouted 'Go and get that Wansla(or Wansler)'.. I heard in my spirit that Wansla meant 'He who runs away'..
The soldiers pursued Cornelius into the bush..




After this dream... I was shown another scene.

In this scene, I was in a bus filled with a number of people I did not recognize facially. The only person i recognized was my brother who sat at the extreme back seat. I sat in the front, close to the driver of the bus. I paid a hefty amount for the T-fare..


We were in the move when we saw some bad/corrupt police trying to stop our vehicle. The driver was a no-nonsense man, the driver swerved the bus many times dodging the police. .. But we now saw a group of people standing in the middle of the road; demons & police waiting for us. The driver now slowly stopped the car and everyone came down in fear..


There was this particular demon, he stretched forth his hand pointing to my brother, letting the driver know he needed him (my brother). The demon had some kind of authority or right that I couldn't understand. It was like he was entitled to some things or so.
The demon took my brother and was talking to him in a friendly manner, but my brother felt very uncomfortable. Everyone mounted the bus again, no one wanted to do anything because of fear.



I was pained in my spirit, my own brother? I could see the demon put his hands all over him in a sexually disgusting manner.. My brother seemed quite fairer than usual in this dream and the demon seemed too black, an inhumanly color and appearance.

The bus started moving.. I couldn't bear it. I told the driver to stop, I was going to rescue my bro. I came down and I traced the demon to where he was(for i had seen in the spirit the road the demon took).




I got to the abode of the demon, it was an old helicopter parked by the side of a lonely road. The helicopter seemed to be out of use and it was damaged. When i entered into the helicopter, it seemed quite larger and looked exactly like a house with sooo much space. What my eyes saw really disgust me.

I saw human beings, they were all males who the demon had taken as victims earlier on.. They were dead or looked dead, some of their heads looked like it was off their bodies and their bodies looked they had been there for a very long time, cold and almost decaying.


I saw the demon sleeping beside my brother in a sexual manner. There was a a bunch of keys beside them. My brother looked half dead already.

I quietly grabbed my sleeping brother and grabbed the keys too and started to run.




As I was running out of the helicopter, the demon woke up and furiously chased me. My brother slowed me down for he was very heavy.
The demon kept chasing; when I saw he was very close to catching me.. I started shouting for help.. 'Help! 'Help!..
In my spirit, I saw a lady from the bus come down and run towards my direction to assist me.


I cried for help in order to make the demon desist from chasing me. But this demon started to shout for help too, faking it, just to cover up.


I kept running. When the demon felt he was losing out. He started speaking hurriedly in anger 'You can take the body, just give me the keys'!!! 'You can take the body, just give me the keys'!!! .. He kept saying it faster in desperation, begging.

I ignored him and kept running. The sister (lady) who was coming to assist me was now nearby, the demon started regressing, walking backwards.
Then I woke up and prayed. Praise God!


This dream is important and it addresses 'Homosexuality'..
There are people in this sin and people who Satan wants to capture as victims into this sin..
The keys i grabbed was the 'Legal right/authority' the demon had over my brother and it's victims. That means the demon will no longer have access to those people.


Homosexuality is not from God. God condemns it with great distaste(Leviticus 18:22; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10).

I decree in the Name and by the authority that is in the Name of Jesus, may people be delivered from the spirit of homosexuality in Jesus Name.. amen.. The snare is broken and we have escaped (psalms 124 vs 7)




The first dream is talking about people in the trap of their enemies. People trapped with sin, who have not accepted Jesus.
Cornelius was a man in the bible who had great zeal to know God and because of this zeal He came to know Jesus and be saved(born again). This dream refers to those people who are not yet born-again that will be saved. Through their zeal, God will make them escape from the hands of the enemy.


May the grace of God continue to overshadow us in Jesus Name .. Amen
yeah, this is what we need, not arguments. I noticed that the devil wants to darail this inspiring thread through unnecessary debates...


pls any body who wants to debate on any topic, should go and open his/her own thread for that purpose...

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Nobody: 3:50am On Dec 13, 2015
donnie:


1. SPIRITUAL WARFARE:
EPH 6:12- For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

This subject has been misunderstood by many Christians due to inaccurate understanding of the Word. It is important that we establish here that the christian is not in a fight to defeat the devil or demons for they have already been defeated. They were defeated and publicly disgraced by Jesus and every demon of hell knows that. So to begin to deal with this subject, it must be from the standpoint of us as victors over Satan and his cohorts.

SO WHAT THEN IS THIS "WRESTLING"? YOU MAY ASK?

2Cor 10:4-5 - " For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;
Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;"

That's it!
-Pulling down strongholds: these are contrary mindsets, theories and philosophies.
-Casting down imaginations, every high thing...
- Subduing every thought, wrong emotions etc. that they may conform to Christ (The Word).
Of course many of these thoughts, ideas, philosophy's and mindsets originate from Satan.

THIS IS TRUE SPIRITUAL WARFARE. This is where the battle is toughest!
Does it mean that some THOUGHTS are evil??


If yes. How can we bring them captive and obedience unto CHRIST?

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