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Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by 3rdlegxxx(m): 11:23am On Feb 09, 2016 |
Ejemehn: Thanks for this comment, some people are so shallow and dull, after they would start shouting i am a graduate, i work in a reputable company, just read what a reasonable person spewed out there, who beg them? people want to be Yoruba? guy your comment should be deleted when intelligent conversations are going on, such 16 year old words shouldn't be allowed room to sit and the sad part is that, he would still get loads of likes for this, it just makes me wonder of the kind of people that populate nairaland, i give up on nairaland. |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by folik121: 11:24am On Feb 09, 2016 |
History of Benin Empire:- The original people and founders of the Benin Empire, the Edo people, were initially ruled by the Ogiso (Kings of the Sky) dynasty who called their land Igodomigodo. The rulers or kings were commonly known as Ogiso. Igodo, the first Ogiso, wielded much influence and gained popularity as a good ruler. He died after a long reign and was succeeded by Ere, his eldest son. In the 12th century, a great palace intrigue and battle for power erupted between the warrior crown prince Ekaladerhan son of the last Ogiso and his young paternal uncle. In anger over an oracle, Prince Ekaladerhan left the royal court with his warriors. When his old father the Ogiso died, the Ogiso dynasty was ended as the people and royal kingmakers preferred their king's son as natural next in line to rule. The exiled Prince Ekaladerhan, who was not known in Yoruba land, somehow earned the title of Oni Ile-fe Izoduwa which is now corrupt to yoruba language as Ooni (Oghene) of Ile-Ife Oduduwa and refused to return, then sent his son Oranmiyan to become king. Prince Oranmiyan took up his abode in the palace built for him at Usama by the elders (now a coronation shrine). Soon after his arrival he married a beautiful lady, Erinmwinde, daughter of Osa-nego, was the ninth Enogie (Duke) of Ego, by whom he had a son. After some years residence here he called a meeting of the people and renounced his office, remarking that the country was a land of vexation, Ile-Ibinu (by which name the country was afterward known) and that only a child born, trained and educated in the arts and mysteries of the land could reign over the people. He caused his son born to him by Erinmwinde to be made King in his place, and returned to Yoruba land Ile-Ife. After some years in Ife, he left for Oyo, where he also left a son behind on leaving the place, and his son Ajaka ultimately became the first Alafin of Oyo of the present line, while Oranmiyan himself was reigning as Oni of Ife. Therefore, Oranmiyan of Ife, the father of Eweka I, the Oba of Benin, was also the father of Ajaka, the first Alafin of Oyo. Oni of Ife and Alafe of Oyo is a Bini spoken language all the Kings title in Southerner are Edo Language. In Nigeria Edo has the greatest and rich culture and most influence in West Africa and powerful King in Nigeria. Allegedly Oba Eweka later changed the name of the city of Ile-Binu, the capital of the Benin kingdom, to "Ubinu." This name would be reinterpreted by the Portugueseas "Benin" in their own language. Around 1470, Ewuare changed the name of the state to Edo. [ 2 ]This was about the time the people of Okpekpemigrated from Benin City. |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by 3rdlegxxx(m): 11:25am On Feb 09, 2016 |
OPCNAIRALAND: 1 Like |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by JIGHU(m): 11:25am On Feb 09, 2016 |
ONLY EREDIUWA BEARS THAT TITLE..........HOW DID YOU ARRIVE AT THIS THAT ALL FORMER OBAS OF BENIN BEARS OMO N'OBA?LOL OPCNAIRALAND: |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Enahi(f): 11:29am On Feb 09, 2016 |
OPCNAIRALAND: The post is clear enough, you Yorubas are thieves and imitators, I studied history and international Relations and what I read now is very correct. Yorubas never had anything like Oba attached to their kingship, why am I even wasting my time replying you. The history of bini deals with facts and not like that of Yorubas that believe in undocumented sources as historical evidences. Yorubas have the most confused and biased history in Nigeria, you fools actually believe Oduduwa fell from the sky. Bunch of backward dimwits. 1 Like |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by ritababe(f): 11:30am On Feb 09, 2016 |
chowlade:i pity your history teacher, you cant even prove a point without insult how old are you 15? Quote me when you grow let me teach the history of benin and yoruba kingdom. |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Enahi(f): 11:32am On Feb 09, 2016 |
JIGHU: Don't mind the mumu, the ewedu and Amala he ate has destroyed his brain. 2 Likes |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Ahmed3rdjuly: 11:32am On Feb 09, 2016 |
Everyone believes in his oral traditions. but when 2 oral traditions conflicts then you have to rely on science to identify which is which. In this ever conflicting history of Yorubas and the Binis i believe asking scientific questions would give clues to the answers of which Empire existed before the other. 1) If both the Ife and Binis had clay n bronze artifacts, which artifacts predates the other? 2) Which of the 2 languages is more sophisticated? example English is less sophisticated than German became it is an offshoot of German. that makes the Britons and offspring of the barbarian Germans/Saxons 3) Existence of Human/animal fossils. which of these places has earlier human fossils/remains 4) Evidences from other neighboring civilizations. 5) Structural evidences,are there existing ancient structures like walls, graves, pyramids, pits, building foundations etc. Until the Binis and the Yorubas are able to use science to solve these argument we should all remain in peace and embrace each others as humans 4 Likes |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by thawgy(m): 11:34am On Feb 09, 2016 |
Kirigidi:. Don't confuse things, the Oba in yorubaland I not a title and it means Lord, Domino,Ruler e.t.c and the titles were the Alaake of Egbaland, Alaafin of Oyo, Olubadan, Ooni of IFE which were the lords of the lands mentioned in their titles.. evidently, Yorubas then refer to the bearer of these titles as their Obas evident in the salutaions Kabiyesi o, oba wa, Oba nki e.. so do not misconstrue the use of these words as proof that Yorubas never had Obas till the edo influence came in 2 Likes |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by YonkijiSappo: 11:35am On Feb 09, 2016 |
Ahmed3rdjuly: LOL, they learnt their art of Bronze casting from the Yorubas of Ife, at the request of one of their Obas, a master of casting was loaned to them to teach. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by YonkijiSappo: 11:37am On Feb 09, 2016 |
thawgy: Even OBA-TALA was a local community leader in primordial Ife. 3 Likes |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Segekesy(m): 11:38am On Feb 09, 2016 |
If nobody can answer this question i rest my case , before now the bini's do go far to ile-ife and buried their leaders? In the bible when these people of God isaac,jacob and joseph and others know they will die soon they begged their children to bury them beside their father. Odo to ba gbagbe orii sun re yoo gbe e ni, a bo oro nla so fun omoluwabi ti o ba denu re yoo di odinodin 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Nobody: 11:39am On Feb 09, 2016 |
Looool. I don't know why folks are arguing over. The Alake asked for it after stirring the hornet's nest and I alluded to it on that thread. The Ooni has visited other kings and no one talked about hierarchy. And the visit is about Yoruba unity, not for throne superiority contest. I don't why he decided to include Bini and/or start causing troubling by talking about hierarchy, especially for a group with four different kings that never had a kingdom and had to fight so many wars to be independent - till the 19th century. I guess it is cos he can't stand the fact the Ooni visited the Awujale before him. But if he had problem with that, he should spoken to the Ooni privately about it or speak only about the "superiority" of his throne compared to the Ijebu throne which pre-existed it, with a kingdom that was never a vassal to anyone. Anyway, he is lucky both the Alaafin of Oyo and Awujale didn't take any offence to what he said. You just can't fault the Oba of Benin for reacting the way he did, regardless of what you think about the revisionism. The Alake asked for it. |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by willibounce1(m): 11:40am On Feb 09, 2016 |
elyna: He is not cursed you Idi..ot. He is has stated the fact and ain't mocking your OBA'S . Get that into your Edo skull. 1 Like |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Enahi(f): 11:42am On Feb 09, 2016 |
Tunami: Hey you sorry to disappoint you,we Edos don't have inferiority complex like the Yorubas. Even if the whole world claims to come from Yoruba land we wiĺl not want to be part of Yorubas ok You are own your own,we are not sons and daughters of a masquerade that fell from the sky, God forbid bad thing that we should be part of your history. It sucks to be Yoruba with all those una gigantic tribal marks and toutish behavior. God forbid. 3 Likes |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by tayooluwole: 11:43am On Feb 09, 2016 |
seunajia: Fine, Olusegun Obasanjo was born in the 50's. His name olusegun was given to him as his name while Obasanjo was his father's name or possibly his surname and thereby, olusegun make it his surname as well... Now trace his father and grandfather,s existence to days back in history and tell me the resulted date... |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by livinbygrace: 11:46am On Feb 09, 2016 |
Oranmiyan took up his abode in the palace built for him at Usama by the elders (now a coronation shrine). Soon after his arrival he married a beautiful lady, Erinmwinde, daughter of Osa-nego, was the ninth Enogie (Duke) of Ego, by whom he had a son. After some years residence here he called a meeting of the people and renounced his office, remarking that the country was a land of vexation, Ile-Ibinu (by which name the country was afterward known) and that only a child born, trained and educated in the arts and mysteries of the land could reign over the people. He caused his son born to him by Erinmwinde to be made King in his place, Oduduwa"son(Oranmiyan) from Ile fe became king in Bini. |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by nisai: 11:48am On Feb 09, 2016 |
ProfShymex:Exactly.Some obas need serious lesson.See what arrogance had caused him now. |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by sirrinky: 11:48am On Feb 09, 2016 |
OPCNAIRALAND: You may not know this,but the binis bear Obahiagbon, Obasohan, Obaseki, Obahon, Obamwongie Obasogbe etc.Just like the Yoruba culture adapted the Oba title,its logical they made permutations of it for personal names also. Looking at the span of the bini kingdom all the way from present benin to dahomey its clear really who the title and true royalty belongs to.The Oba stool of Bini kingdom is not some childs play where miscreants and wife beaters go exhibit their skills,its a thorough insult comparing to Bini.The Oba is foremost in Benin and even outside the kingdom he still is king. Love live the king. 1 Like |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by YonkijiSappo: 11:51am On Feb 09, 2016 |
sirrinky: Stop lying, Benin Empire never reached Dahomey, Only Oyo Empire did. You copied Oba, then Copied Omo, then copied Olokun, then copied Ogun, then copied Ida and Ada (Decorative machetes and Royal Swords)....... A lot of stuff in your culture was copied from Yorubas. If you dont know, now you know. 8 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by freemanbubble: 11:54am On Feb 09, 2016 |
OPCNAIRALAND:what about the bini names like obazee, obaseki, obayagbon, obayuwana, |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by seunajia: 11:54am On Feb 09, 2016 |
tayooluwole: Olusegun Obasanjo was born in 1937. It means the name must have existed before that time. You want more? Obafemi Awolowo (1909)... Please don't quote me again, thanks! 4 Likes |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Nobody: 11:55am On Feb 09, 2016 |
nisai: Lol. I don't even think it's arrogance - it is insecurity. The Owu they always claim as Oduduwa's as son why Egba should always be ranked high are not even proper Egbas. I'd even rate Owo higher than Egba and I'm a quarter Egba. If you are a student of history - you should know where the Binis stand when it comes to kingship/hierarchy - why go start another trouble? Loool. These Egba folks are just troublesome lol. I don't know what they have going on with Ijebus in Ogun state but both groups need to fall back. Chasing Ijebu is what caused the needless disrespect from the Bini palace. But can you blame them? 1 Like |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by JIGHU(m): 12:00pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
ODUDUWA (IZODUWA) IS A BINI PRINCE WHO LEFT TO RULE IFE.....DO THE MATHS livinbygrace: |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by sirrinky: 12:02pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
YonkijiSappo: Mehn did you smoke wet weed What are you even saying? Anyways that's your cup of tea.Won't argue with you.Have a productive day. Ciao |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Enahi(f): 12:05pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
Onijagidijagan: Very funny do you people even have culture? You also don't have evidence to show that your Oduduwa that fell from the sky was the first Oba of Bini, so shut it please. |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by YonkijiSappo: 12:08pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
sirrinky: Sharrap, your lies were caught in broad daylight, now you are trying to run away? You said Benin empire reached Dahomey...pure lie .... You also said Yoruba copied the Oba title from your people.... Another white lie. Then you said It is possible we copied Omo the same way we copied Oba... lie number 3. The real story is actually the other way round, you go around copying Yoruba stuff, only to personalise them and call them your own, 200 years later. Your Bini itself was named by the Yorubas. You can change the city's name back to Igodomigodo or Idu or whatever if you would like to detach yourselves completely from the Yoruba aspects of your history. 2 Likes |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Nobody: 12:12pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
Always leave Binis out of it. But fvk it - this is my ranking. 1). Alaafin of Oyo and Ooni of Ife (joint first and I only put Ife up there cos it's the spiritual home of the Yorubas but Ijebus were the ones who defended Ife all through the Yoruba wars to avoided subjugation with thousands of Ijebu warriors). 2). Awujale of Ijebu. 3). Alaketu of Ketu. 4). Owo kingdom. Ibadan should take the next spot despite the fact that it never had a proper king and it's conglomerate of all Yorubas. But you can't knock the military might of the Ibadan warriors of yore - they ruled with an iron fist. Then Egbas can take the spot after Ibadan cos they were great in battles. The rest can fight for whatever spots are left. Real ranking right there based on historical facts. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by arazanbal: 12:12pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
OPCNAIRALAND: SON OF HIS ANCESTORIAL FATHERS.WHO ARE BORN BORN OBAS FROM TIME IN MEMORIAL.UKPU AR KPORLOKPOLO. |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by YonkijiSappo: 12:16pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
ProfShymex: And the Owa Obokun of Ilesha? Ewi of Ado? Orangun of Ila? I take it you are Ijebu....... cool though. |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by kenoz(m): 12:20pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
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