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Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Enahi(f): 4:16pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
Super1Star: Well done o, you and your fake histroy of Lagos. There are different to history of Lagos and I can see you are using the one that was written by hungry Yoruba Lecturers to claim your right. Point of correction there was never a time in the history of Edo State that Yoruba was ever the official language. |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by OPCNAIRALAND: 4:22pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
Oahray: You latched on and kept harping that Oduduwa's descent from the sky has no root and cannot be given serious peerage to the more grounded Benin account ofhis history. You were not ready to concede the ground on that. It has now been brought before your eyes that your highly glorifoed ogise itself is believed to descend from the sky.....and you melt, you are using visuals to softland. Why do you people bring up points you have not thoroughly researched, why bring conjectures and waste peoples time? Now that it has bren established firmly that if Ogiso, a descendant of the sky is legitimate, Oduduwa, another descendant of the sky is also legitimate.....and if Ogiso did not come from a previously known race, then Oduduwa did not come from Ogiso or any of its sub dynasties. My own theory of Ogiso's root is deeper but let me keep it private for now. |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Born2Breed(f): 4:22pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
PLEASE HISTORIANS....WHO WAS THE FIRST SON OF ODUDUWA AND WHO WAS THE FIRST SON OF ORANMIYAN? ALSO WAS ORANMIYAN THE FIRST OONI AFTER ODUDUWA? |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by comos: 4:24pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
Super1Star:I am very regular in the Oba (Benin) Palace, It is Bini language that is spoken there. for your information, pay a visit to the Oba of Lagos palace and you will see that everything there are replica of the Oba of benin. that tells you that the Oba of Lagos is a descendant of the benin Kingdom. even the chiefs there still bear bini names till date. Streets in Lagos Island still bear bini names till date e.g Idumota (Idumwun-ota), Idumagbo (Idumwun-Agbo), |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Super1Star: 4:25pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
Enahi: I still can't stop laughing. I will take your statement more serious when the Oba himself denies the fact. For your lesson in history, you need to visit your Oba's palace an let the palace historian lecture you |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by forgiveness: 4:27pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
comos: Map don't tell lies.
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Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by OPCNAIRALAND: 4:28pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
Enahi: If it wasnt for our push from West to dislodge Biafra you will be one of Ibo speaking territories. I want to see you deny this. 1 Like |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Super1Star: 4:32pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
comos: You are off point again. Yoruba was the official language of the palace till the 20th century. Ask your palace historian. Is Idumagbo not part of the Eko island? How does that confer on you the right to Lagos? Why is Oba Akiolu not bearing your name? He must have been whao-ed by Yoruba names. |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by comos: 4:35pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
forgiveness: Anybody can draw map just like the one you just presented, but you can never change history because the traces will always be there. I have point out all the traces Bini empire left behind in youruba-Land, can you point out one of yours in benin-Land ? 1 Like |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by OPCNAIRALAND: 4:36pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
comos: They are called Idu, not Idumwun. Idu is Yoruba word, check the following. Adu Edu Edu Idu Odu Odu Udu All Yoruba in all the vowels in our lexicon. I want to see you replicate with Bini word sand vowels. I dare you to 2 Likes |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by comos: 4:43pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
OPCNAIRALAND: Idumwun in bini means "Street" so Idumwum-Ota means Ota-Street IdumwumunOta was later corroborated to Idumota |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by adekaz777: 4:43pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
Benin can never agree to that ascertion by Alake placing Ooni ahead of Oba Of Benin. Ooni is not superior to Oba of Benin. Its only Aalafin and Oba of Benin that are contemporaries, as both of them are descendants of Oramiyan(brothers from different mothers). Benin is as old as Ife (if not older). Oramiyan factor only change the Obaship in Benin till date. It was the Action Group of Late Obafemi Awolowo during the reign of Ooni Oba Adesoji Aderemi because he was their member, made him Chairman of Oba's council of old Western Region ,before then Aalafin used to be the paramount in Yoruba land. Reference: History of Yorubas by Samuel Johnson (published 1921). 1 Like |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by pdpchangeapc(m): 4:48pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
Abmalcom: I never knew someone has written this before. Obatala was a yoruba deity whose history is as old as yorubas. Abi obatala na Bini God? |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by aribisala0(m): 4:53pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
YoruBadGoon:All this because of your god Davido who does not know you exist. I can see you are scarred for life . Mr Dullard I see you were traumatized and have not recovered. Omo mummy |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by clefstone(m): 4:57pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
mart2k:I frequently saw the last ooni attending the Esama of Bini, Chief Igbinedion's birthday parties, and eating party jolof rice. CLASSLESS to say the least. NB: the Esama pays homage to the Oba of Bini 2 Likes |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by mannobi(m): 4:57pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
These binnis are mere renegades |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by prophetfire: 4:59pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
And chief zebrudaya will say TOLD THEM. |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Oahray: 5:04pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
OPCNAIRALAND:what is this one saying? The Bini version is more logical and isn't on a denial spree like yours. At least they admitted that they went to Ile-Ife when they ran into trouble with their Ogiso dynasty. I'm sure you read my post where I said no one descended from the sky. Neither the Binis nor the Yorubas. However I haven't seen any Bini person try to refute any claim by saying something cannot be true because their Ogisos came from heaven. The yorubas would rather argue that Oduduwa descended from heaven commando style than admit that he could have come from a nearby kingdom. They would rather have him trek from Egypt or Mecca than from Igodomigodo. Even if the title Ogiso means what it is popularly thought to mean, there is no evidence anyone took it literally. The first Ogiso Igodo isn't revered as a mystical being in any Bini folklore. One of my yoruba friends (a graduate o) still insists with all conviction that the chains with which Oduduwa descended from heaven is still somewhere in yoruba land. What logical mind would be moved to believe those tales? Certainly not mine, but then, I'm only speaking for myself. 1 Like |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by pdpchangeapc(m): 5:05pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
I wonder o! Bishop Ajayi Crowther translated English Bible into Yoruba in 1880 and he used the word Oba for Kings. Where did he get it from? from Bini abi? OPCNAIRALAND: 3 Likes |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by comos: 5:16pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
clefstone: LOL! even one of the yoruba's Oba have a rough fight with Davido in one of their Owambe parties |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by willibounce1(m): 5:20pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
Enahi: LMAO. E pain am enter bone. Olosho. Edo prostitute. 1 Like |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Nobody: 5:23pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
AnnaKareninaFan:So who is the OBA and who is the OMO OBA? argument, argument argue Them, them, them, them, argue... |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Enahi(f): 5:24pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
Super1Star: Enough of your nonsense please, Yoruba was never bini's official language I wonder where you are getting all this crap from. Yes there are similarities but it was never the official language. And stop been a dumbo about the name thing, most old streets in Lagos are actually bini names. |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Enahi(f): 5:31pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
Oahray: Are you minding the fools, they are ranting up and down with their distorted history. Even some of their Lecturers can't answer some questions that has to do with bini/Yoruba history. It's only how to eat Amala and receive Egunje they know,bunch of dumbos. |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by ebenholer(m): 5:31pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
though I am Yoruba, but I will categorically agree with what Benin chief says. it is actually true through d Yoruba history books I have read... 2 Likes |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by pdpchangeapc(m): 5:32pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
OPCNAIRALAND: Abeg oga, you deserve something from me. Come meet me for Misad for eleyele road for 6 bottles of beer and pepper soup, I dey wait for you. |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Super1Star: 5:35pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
Enahi: Bini names ko, Bornu names ni. Abeg park well. When you have the liver to ask your palace historian about Yoruba being the language of your palace, get back to me. I never knew Shango, Olokumi, Osun and Ogun are all Bini deities too. Let us hear you mythology on them. |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by comos: 5:37pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
Super1Star: Go ask Oba Akiolu his linage he will happily tells you is a proud Oba of bini lineage. you can rant up and down but can not change history. |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by ebenholer(m): 5:38pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
but cannot be candidly prove that the present place called Bini was d original abode of Oduduwa the purported father of most ancient kings in Yoruba land like Ooni of Ife, Alake of Egba, Owa-Obokun of Ilesha, Aalafin of Oyo, Orangun of Ila etc. These kings candidly trace their lineage to Oduduwa of Bini |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Enahi(f): 5:40pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
Super1Star: I won't reply you again because you have a foolish brain. 1 Like |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by comos: 5:48pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
Super1Star: I now believe that your Oduduwa was actually thrown down from the sky due to his dirtiness. no wonder your towns are all littered with brown roofs and filthy environment. |
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Super1Star: 5:51pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
comos: Yeah, no wonder his name sounds very Bini-ish. |
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