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Re: Nigerian Couple In Texas Face Slavery And Assault Charges, Faces Upto 60 Years by manny4life(m): 3:27pm On Feb 10, 2016
Woged2005:
Complaint was probably filed by another bad-belly Nigerian. That's the way they live in Texas -(pull him down attitude). Who on earth will believe these in the USA? Food is probably the cheapest thing in US that even American rats are well-fed. If they stopped her from using hot water, did they seal the tap with a lock when they go out? I knew a story like this where a lady did everything to come to USA. after one year on arrival her relative who wanted her to move in with him promising her a better life but was resisted by her hosts filed criminal complaint against her host alleging unprintable things.

One lesson I must teach people: call me any name if you like; If you want peace of mind, keep Nigerians without a legal visa at arms length when they come abroad...don't rent your room to them, not even as extended visitors. Nigerians are generally kind and happy people, but very few terribly bad ones can cause chaos and turn your life into misery. forget about the 'church' they carry on their head...na for mouth

Until we hear the side of the couple, don't judge.

I approve this message... I will continue saying it, fellow Nigerians know how to pull other down.

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Re: Nigerian Couple In Texas Face Slavery And Assault Charges, Faces Upto 60 Years by manny4life(m): 3:32pm On Feb 10, 2016
aribisala0:
There is no need for stupid "gentleman's" agreements. To stay out of trouble pay them minimum wage at least and make sure there is a signed employment contract with clear hours of work. If you cannot afford it don't delve into it . No need forming unnecessary Bigman. If you have to employ 2 or 3 etc as the case may be so be it. The only reason people run into trouble is because they try to do things they cannot really afford on the cheap. The only justification for bringing in people from Nigeria is to teach your children Nigerian languages,apart from that you can employ people wherever you are and do thorough background checks and monitoring.They don't have to live with you. They can come in and do x number of hours y days a week on specific tasks. If you can't afford it don't break the law.Simples.

Minimum labor isn't mandatory, nobody forced or coerced her into accepting labor. All these allegations is just to make the victim look sympathetic. The family haven't told their own side of the story, and granted to agreed to pay her $100/month which I don't agree with, the option was hers and she made the decision. However, on the part of kidnapping, that's just unnecessary extra charge added on.

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Re: Nigerian Couple In Texas Face Slavery And Assault Charges, Faces Upto 60 Years by Wallie(m): 3:39pm On Feb 10, 2016
manny4life:

Minimum labor isn't mandatory, nobody forced or coerced her into accepting labor. All these allegations is just to make the victim look sympathetic. The family haven't told their own side of the story, and granted to agreed to pay her $100/month which I don't agree with, the option was hers and she made the decision. However, on the part of kidnapping, that's just unnecessary extra charge added on.

My guy, no try am o!

Federal law
http://www.dol.gov/whd/flsa/


You cannot enter into a contract deemed illegal even if the other party is willing. The contract is void ab initio.
Re: Nigerian Couple In Texas Face Slavery And Assault Charges, Faces Upto 60 Years by Desyree: 4:28pm On Feb 10, 2016
the so called maid is lying. its a big fat lie. i was not there but its just a big lie

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Re: Nigerian Couple In Texas Face Slavery And Assault Charges, Faces Upto 60 Years by justmenoni: 4:29pm On Feb 10, 2016
I quite agree with you sha,haba the milk part got me do annoyed I mean how is that even possible, she's gonna hv to strain milk from the kid's cereal to drink her own tea?? Like you said the couples are gonna be working and while at work why can't she drink the tea with as much milk as she want rhen dilute the remaining with water and fiv their kids like that grin grin


Alot of things aint true with this story,best thing best if u know u are gonna have lots of kids then one of the parents should work fulltime while the other does part time or even work from home that way who needs a nanny?


I'm sure some ppl might have instigated this so called nanny against her host ( if I hear ehn,she no get fone,Internet nko!) mtschew
quote author=Woged2005 post=42793209]Complaint was probably filed by another bad-belly Nigerian. That's the way they live in Texas -(pull him down attitude). Who on earth will believe these in the USA? Food is probably the cheapest thing in US that even American rats are well-fed. If they stopped her from using hot water, did they seal the tap with a lock when they go out? I knew a story like this where a lady did everything to come to USA. after one year on arrival her relative who wanted her to move in with him promising her a better life but was resisted by her hosts filed criminal complaint against her host alleging unprintable things.

One lesson I must teach people: call me any name if you like; If you want peace of mind, keep Nigerians without a legal visa at arms length when they come abroad...don't rent your room to them, not even as extended visitors. Nigerians are generally kind and happy people, but very few terribly bad ones can cause chaos and turn your life into misery. forget about the 'church' they carry on their head...na for mouth

Until we hear the side of the couple, don't judge. [/quote]

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Re: Nigerian Couple In Texas Face Slavery And Assault Charges, Faces Upto 60 Years by armadeo(m): 6:20pm On Feb 10, 2016
Desyree:
the so called maid is lying. its a big fat lie. i was not there but its just a big lie


Seconded.

This Nigerian are very ungrateful. I know sometimes Nannys are maltreated but this story is just bullshit.

The nanny saw the couple's way of life and wanted it for herself and drummed up this story.

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Re: Nigerian Couple In Texas Face Slavery And Assault Charges, Faces Upto 60 Years by hrfunso: 6:22pm On Feb 10, 2016
lol i laugh die, in this case, they will both be in trouble.
Re: Nigerian Couple In Texas Face Slavery And Assault Charges, Faces Upto 60 Years by sethken: 6:38pm On Feb 10, 2016
Woged2005:
Complaint was probably filed by another bad-belly Nigerian. That's the way they live in Texas -(pull him down attitude). Who on earth will believe these in the USA? Food is probably the cheapest thing in US that even American rats are well-fed. If they stopped her from using hot water, did they seal the tap with a lock when they go out? I knew a story like this where a lady did everything to come to USA. after one year on arrival her relative who wanted her to move in with him promising her a better life but was resisted by her hosts filed criminal complaint against her host alleging unprintable things.

One lesson I must teach people: call me any name if you like; If you want peace of mind, keep Nigerians without a legal visa at arms length when they come abroad...don't rent your room to them, not even as extended visitors. Nigerians are generally kind and happy people, but very few terribly bad ones can cause chaos and turn your life into misery. forget about the 'church' they carry on their head...na for mouth

Until we hear the side of the couple, don't judge.

I know there are two sides to every story. Remember the State Attorney's office in Texas must have investigated the house help's complaint prior to any arrests. They will not arrest unless they absolutely believe they can prove that the law has been broken. I know Nigerians. Our people can atimes be heartless. The general notion is this: we assisted in bringing her to the US. She should be content with whatever we provide. Her life in the US is better off than what she had in Nigeria. By the way, she has no valid papers. Be best believe it, a crime was committed here by this couple. You don't have to travel to Nigeria to find people who can legally assist with household chores. Those that venture, try to cut corners. If you employ anyone in your home, you must play by the rules. There are no cutting corners when it comes to the violation of the rights of a vulnerable person. The complainant here will qualify as one because she is an illegal immigrant.

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Re: Nigerian Couple In Texas Face Slavery And Assault Charges, Faces Upto 60 Years by sethken: 6:39pm On Feb 10, 2016
aribisala0:
There is no need for stupid "gentleman's" agreements. To stay out of trouble pay them minimum wage at least and make sure there is a signed employment contract with clear hours of work. If you cannot afford it don't delve into it . No need forming unnecessary Bigman. If you have to employ 2 or 3 etc as the case may be so be it. The only reason people run into trouble is because they try to do things they cannot really afford on the cheap. The only justification for bringing in people from Nigeria is to teach your children Nigerian languages,apart from that you can employ people wherever you are and do thorough background checks and monitoring.They don't have to live with you. They can come in and do x number of hours y days a week on specific tasks. If you can't afford it don't break the law.Simples.
Re: Nigerian Couple In Texas Face Slavery And Assault Charges, Faces Upto 60 Years by sethken: 7:07pm On Feb 10, 2016
manny4life:


Minimum labor isn't mandatory, nobody forced or coerced her into accepting labor. All these allegations is just to make the victim look sympathetic. The family haven't told their own side of the story, and granted to agreed to pay her $100/month which I don't agree with, the option was hers and she made the decision. However, on the part of kidnapping, that's just unnecessary extra charge added on.

You don't purposefully destroy the life of another to build yours. In essence you don't destroy in other to build. If she is an illegal immigrant, you can see why her illegal status will force her into intolerable work conditions. The legal residents, the couple here, are at fault because they brought her to the US, they are aware of her status and its attendant implications. They exploited her. They broke State and Federal laws because they hired and paid her a paltry sum. Perhaps they threatened to have her deported if she ever spoke up. By so doing, they held her hostage.

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Re: Nigerian Couple In Texas Face Slavery And Assault Charges, Faces Upto 60 Years by aribisala0(m): 7:14pm On Feb 10, 2016
manny4life:


Minimum labor isn't mandatory, nobody forced or coerced her into accepting labor. All these allegations is just to make the victim look sympathetic. The family haven't told their own side of the story, and granted to agreed to pay her $100/month which I don't agree with, the option was hers and she made the decision. However, on the part of kidnapping, that's just unnecessary extra charge added on.
I do not quite know what you mean by "minimum labor isn't mandatory" perhaps you care to explain.....
I can only assume you mean minimum wage. Are you then suggesting there is no minimum to what a worker may be paid
I made general comments about Nigerians in this sort of situation because we hear too many cases and one wpuld expect others to have learnt by now how to protect themselves and be within the law demonstrably
I do not know about this case which I believe is heading to court? I simply do not have the facts
I really do not know how you know no one force or coerced her and that all these allegations are to "make the victim look sympathetic" . Who is the "victim" and what does it mean in English to make a victim look sympathetic.
The point of my write up was simple . People should familiarize themselves with the law and not make them selves in any way vulnerable to these sorts of allegations by
Having an employment contract with minimum wage and
not having employees live in their homes
in short the same kind of arrangement they would have with a non-Nigerian otherwise you get into all kinds of arguments about value of rent and milk and number of hours and cost of airplane and visa and other kinds of controversies.

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Re: Nigerian Couple In Texas Face Slavery And Assault Charges, Faces Upto 60 Years by Wallie(m): 7:23pm On Feb 10, 2016
Here's the actual criminal complaint filed against the employers. It contains all the facts, albeit, from the plaintiff's point of view. The Nsobundos still have to mount a defense.

http://images.houstonpress.com/media/pdf/nsobundu_complaint.pdf

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Re: Nigerian Couple In Texas Face Slavery And Assault Charges, Faces Upto 60 Years by benom(m): 7:32pm On Feb 10, 2016
I just laugh when I read some posts. You need to see how Nigerians treat other Nigerians here. Especially if they had a hand in bringing you to the States! Slavery is too soft of a word to use. Some people believe they own their house helps and can do anything to them. But here is the irony... When they hire Philippinos, Jamaicans or Mexicans to do the same job, they adjust their attitude to fit what is truly required by law. Why can't we just treat ourselves fair. Not everyone behaves this way, but a lot of us do.

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Re: Nigerian Couple In Texas Face Slavery And Assault Charges, Faces Upto 60 Years by Nobody: 7:42pm On Feb 10, 2016
If they don't strip them of the US citizenship after all of this then my name is not EgunMogaji oko Afusat olobe dundun.
Re: Nigerian Couple In Texas Face Slavery And Assault Charges, Faces Upto 60 Years by Woged2005(f): 9:43pm On Feb 10, 2016
sethken:


I know there are two sides to every story. Remember the State Attorney's office in Texas must have investigated the house help's complaint prior to any arrests. They will not arrest unless they absolutely believe they can prove that the law has been broken. I know Nigerians. Our people can atimes be heartless. The general notion is this: we assisted in bringing her to the US. She should be content with whatever we provide. Her life in the US is better off than what she had in Nigeria. By the way, she has no valid papers. Be best believe it, a crime was committed here by this couple. You don't have to travel to Nigeria to find people who can legally assist with household chores. Those that venture, try to cut corners. If you employ anyone in your home, you must play by the rules. There are no cutting corners when it comes to the violation of the rights of a vulnerable person. The complainant here will qualify as one because she is an illegal immigrant.

The system is not fool-proof though. It's their word against hers. All they need to make an arrest is for an officer to interview her privately and she insists those things happened. The rest is left for lawyers to argue out in court. Remember, the state has not presumed the couple guilty. they simply say they "believe those things happened" based on the victim's statement and let the court decide. US courts/laws are a very different from Nigeria's court system.

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Re: Nigerian Couple In Texas Face Slavery And Assault Charges, Faces Upto 60 Years by aribisala0(m): 10:54pm On Feb 10, 2016
Faith111:
Human beings always want to bite the finger that Fed them..
I remember how my mum took some relatives from the Villa who could not even say a word in English to School while helping with domestic needs...They were loyal and grateful until after about 2years when they knew their route and had gathered enough resource..immediately , thet started acting like they were doing us a favor, rented a room apartment and started feeling like they've arrived...
My mum just ignored them and before we cud say Jack, dey started dropping out of Sch.

Their younger ones keep calling me like they wanna stay with me I just keep them for cooler.
I prefer using outsiders and pay them monthly to ppl I know..
Those you know most times end up biting u.
This is kerosene user's mentality. There is no need for all this so called gratitude and nonsense talk of fingers that fed.
If you employ someone to do a job pay hem a fair wage. All this so called "help" that desires people to worship another for life is hypocrisy. Every person was born the same way and no one is superior to another . But something within our psyche has this need to dominate and be worshipped.
Of what relevance is it that your relatives could not speak English . You say they started feeling like they arrived . So you don't want them to "ARRIVE" you want them to never forget that they were brought from the village.Did your mum not come from the same village . If they are your relatives why feel superior? Because your folk left village first. Ask this question .

Who is the father of Obasanjo ,IBB<Nwakwo Kanu etc.

In almost all cases when people take so called relatives abroad they wish to exploit them. Expecting them to work 7 days a week with sketchy terms Because they paid for tickets and Visa and are always bitter when these people outperform them.They will never let them forget they once "could not speak English".

What I find amazing with all of this is it is this same folk who are the most active in church.

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Re: Nigerian Couple In Texas Face Slavery And Assault Charges, Faces Upto 60 Years by aribisala0(m): 11:04pm On Feb 10, 2016
armadeo:



Seconded.

This Nigerian are very ungrateful. I know sometimes Nannys are maltreated but this story is just bullshit.

The nanny saw the couple's way of life and wanted it for herself and drummed up this story.
How do you know? Are you a witness.
What does Gratitude have to do with anything . The knife should be grateful to the Yam or the Yam to the knife? They both need each other

The real cost of a nanny is expensive and most people want to do it on the cheap that is the bottomline . But in most cases these people are not just nannies they are skivvies and work 7 days a week just like in Nigeria. That is not acceptable in America and there is no way to dress that up.
This is a practice for the wealthy.
1. Sign a Contract and have it notarized and witnessed by a lawyer that they are not under duress
2. If you are bringing someone from Nigeria (Rent a room or apartment for them)
3. If they owe you money for expenses Sign an IOU again legal document with agreement on repayment schedule deductions
4. Open a bank account for them and pay them by bank transfer making sure they pay tax and Social security
5, Empower them by directing them to further education and training and a pathway to moving on . Ultimately wish for them what you wish for your own children and respect them

This is not a cheap undertaking and if you cannot pay this then sorry you cannot afford it and that is why you see well paid individuals mowing their lawns etc

Nigerians try to exploit poor people from Nigeria and many Indians do too.
It is important to KNOW THE LAW and not get caught out

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Re: Nigerian Couple In Texas Face Slavery And Assault Charges, Faces Upto 60 Years by sevule(m): 11:06pm On Feb 10, 2016
aribisala0:
This is kerosene user's mentality. There is no need for all this so called gratitude and nonsense talk of fingers that fed.
If you employ someone to do a job pay hem a fair wage. All this so called "help" that desires people to worship another for life is hypocrisy. Every person was born the same way and no one is superior to another . But something within our psyche has this need to dominate and be worshipped.
Of what relevance is it that your relatives could not speak English . You say they started feeling like they arrived . So you don't want them to "ARRIVE" you want them to never forget that they were brought from the village.Did your mum not come from the same village . If they are your relatives why feel superior? Because your folk left village first. Ask this question .

Who is the father of Obasanjo ,IBB<Nwakwo Kanu etc.

In almost all cases when people take so called relatives abroad they wish to exploit them. Expecting them to work 7 days a week with sketchy terms Because they paid for tickets and Visa and are always bitter when these people outperform them.They will never let them forget they once "could not speak English".

What I find amazing with all of this is it is this same folk who are the most active in church.

I couldn't have said it better!!
Nigerians are probably the MOST entitled people on earth and feel that they should be worshiped when they render assistance to other people, case in point the original poster - Faith111.
The only time they don't feel so entitled is when the person they are dealing with is an 'oyinbo'

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Re: Nigerian Couple In Texas Face Slavery And Assault Charges, Faces Upto 60 Years by 6digitscomrade: 12:36am On Feb 11, 2016
u go sabi provoke o
adorablepepple:
how did they treat Nigerians badly,can you read at all? Olodo undecided.

First and foremost, I blame the lady Cause she knew What she was getting herself into, but because of the fairy-tale stories she has been hearing about obodo oyinbo and how she would make quick money, she couldn't think twice. People should just know that life in abroad is overrated. Many fall victim because they are desperate.
Many Nigerians are not their brother keepers anymore ,they treat eachother like strangers. This was what made that bank manager die abroad, after being maltreated and threatened by a fellow Nigerian who she was working for. Those couple can rot in hell,I don't care. Infact, they should transfer them to Naija prison they should join their brother kanu grin
Re: Nigerian Couple In Texas Face Slavery And Assault Charges, Faces Upto 60 Years by 19naia(m): 12:43am On Feb 11, 2016
Coming to America while steeped in old fashioned Nigerian culture normalcies can easily find Nigerians in serious criminal and civil trouble. Civil and human rights are not an after thought in America like it is in Nigeria. Stern and harsh punishments in Nigeria lead to very submissive subordinate groups who then become very easy prey to unjust coercion by people who would be abusive.
Nigerians are so used to this and so fearful of harsh retribution that they tend to accept abuse and usury as best they can so as to avoid further complications from their abusers. It is to the point that an average nigerian does not recognize average senarios of abuse, usury or coruption in general.
Many Nigerians will claim that it is their national standard and heritage that sets apart from other nations in their approach to the world charter of human rights and fair practices. Yet despite the claim by Nigerians to a Nigerian national standard set apart, you will see those same Nigerians very unsatisfied and disturbed by the effects of that very standard. All the hallmarks of blatant denial and refusal to commit to more humane ways. Its a simple human thing irrespective of nationality and cultural heritage.
It is so pervasive that there isn't a good chance for anyone with a good moral concsience to thrive in Nigeria. Nigeria will bend people with suffering by corruption into corruption.
Average acceptable practices in the common Nigerian Hustle do appear quite dodgy or shady when played out in America or UK or countries with a better commitment to fair practices. Nigerians can be quite convinced that they are doing nothing wrong while appearing absolutley inhumane and corupt in America. Because in these countries, it is quite clear to them the problems that ensue from those practices which coincidentaly are the same problems Nigeria is plagued with while in denial of the corelations between the practices and the ensuing problems.

Concern for your fellow human beings even if you can do nothing for them, it is just as important what you dont do to them.

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Re: Nigerian Couple In Texas Face Slavery And Assault Charges, Faces Upto 60 Years by aribisala0(m): 7:45am On Feb 11, 2016
This is equally true in Bangladesh,Yemen,Pakistan,India,Bolivia and Colombia
Re: Nigerian Couple In Texas Face Slavery And Assault Charges, Faces Upto 60 Years by adorablepepple(f): 10:31am On Feb 11, 2016
6digitscomrade:
u go sabi provoke o
cheesy
Re: Nigerian Couple In Texas Face Slavery And Assault Charges, Faces Upto 60 Years by scarred9jan(m): 10:38pm On Feb 11, 2016
Faith111:
Human beings always want to bite the finger that Fed them..
I remember how my mum took some relatives from the Villa who could not even say a word in English to School while helping with domestic needs...They were loyal and grateful until after about 2years when they knew their route and had gathered enough resource..immediately , thet started acting like they were doing us a favor, rented a room apartment and started feeling like they've arrived...
My mum just ignored them and before we cud say Jack, dey started dropping out of Sch.

Their younger ones keep calling me like they wanna stay with me I just keep them for cooler.
I prefer using outsiders and pay them monthly to ppl I know..
Those you know most times end up biting u.

Bros, something happens to your mum. Suspect them first.

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