Fulaman198:


I am sorry but that's untrue. Why? The population of Nigerians in the United States is unknown...Why again? It's because of the way your stupid census in the United States works. If you are Nigerian you can't mark that you are Nigerian, you can only mark that you are Black/African-American which pisses me off.

This has nothing to do with census. And the African population is clearly defined and has been calculated. Have you heard of surveys?

According to this survey there are 277,631 Nigerians in the United States.
http://factfinder.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?pid=ACS_12_1YR_B04003&prodType=table,

All Africans in total is 3,067,724 according to the link.

So no it is not unknown...

musicwriter:
@KidStranglehold.

I'm not here to argue on whether Nigerians look down on African-Americans, but to tell you "why".

Nigerians (new generation) Nigerians, at least all the people I know don't consider white people as intelligent. I have to be blunt here; a regular Lagos guy probably consider every white man as a fool that needs be exploited. So, you can imagine how they think of you. As a matter of fact, I have never met a single white man that came across to me as wise. This actually led me into crying one day, cause I couldn't comprehend why slavery should happen to us. Then, I found out it wasn't a question of intelligence, but that we were defeated with technology. This's a topic for another day.

Nigerians probably look down on you because you African-Americans fully born in the US can't seem to free yourselves from mental slavery for over 250 years!.

Granted, the US as an institution is still rigged against you folks. But, still I want to know.................

1. Why is it that poor Mexicans, Indians, Nigerians, Pakistanis come to the US and make it so soon while yourselves a citizen keep living in squalor?.

2. If poor Mexicans, Indians, Nigerians, Pakistanis can come to the US and make it, what is stopping majority of African-Americans freeing themselves from mental slavery and getting all they want in the US?.

3. Does Mexicans, Indians, Nigerians, Pakistanis have more opportunity of surviving in the US that you African-Americans?.

These are questions I need answers to, and if you cannot tell me answers to these questions you have no case at all.

I think the problem you folks have is that most of you think you're still slaves, when in fact you're not. This's why me too will look down on you, if I happen to come to the US. But, I have no plan whatsoever of coming to the US though, unless I'm coming to have white girls suk my dick.

Good posts.

But the answers you presented were already answered in the OP. Especially one for Indians. I have not seen any poor Indians, Pakistanis or Nigerians come here. And I have many cool Indian friends who were quite well off back home. As for Mexicans most struggle just as much as African-Americans and too take part in "thug culture".

Put I will give you Nigerians a point in that you guys are literally around the world opening shop and starting business, which I believe AA's should start doing. And also you guys practice group economics.

bigfrancis21:
Kidstranglehold,

As regards education, do not limit the number of Nigerians with degrees to only the small percentage in the US. You seem to be focusing on the Nigerians you find in the US while ignoring the overwhelming majority that live in Nigeria. In addition to the majority that study in Nigeria, Nigerians do not only come to the US to study. They go to the UK, Malaysia, South Africa, Canada, etc. you name it, to study. In total, there are way more Nigerians with college degrees as a percentage of the total Nigerian population.

Or maybe I should compare the 3000 African Americans living in Ghana against native Ghanaians in terms of number of affluent ones and use the 3000 AAs as representative of all African Americans worldwide?

The reason I am focusing on Nigerians in America, because this is what this topic is about. Nigerian immigrants in America vs African Americans in America. I don't know about Nigerian education culture in Nigeria itself, but again I do know that Nigerians in America for the most part in my experience come from well off families from their country and do not represent the average Nigeria. Again this one Nigerian also told me this. I am aware that Nigerians are in many other countries and I am already aware that they are the top pupils in the UK.

As for the bolded, that is EXACTLY what I am talking about when I say "skrewed numbers". My point is we shouldn't use small successful populations as representation of an entire population whether they are African-American or Nigerian.

For example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wfbb4pvK3VA

I can easily be like, "SEE! SEE! If these African-Americans can make it big in South Africa then why can't these lazy Black South Africans!" Saying this while also ignoring those AA businessmen in South Africa never lived under the brutal apartheid like black South Africans that actually made whites have a headstart compared to those black South Africans. Again this is what this thread is about.

KidStranglehold:


This has nothing to do with census. And the African population is clearly defined and has been calculated. Have you heard of surveys?

According to this survey there are 277,631 Nigerians in the United States.
http://factfinder.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?pid=ACS_12_1YR_B04003&prodType=table,

All Africans in total is 3,067,724 according to the link.

So no it is not unknown...

Again, as someone who has lived in the United States before there is no factual information as to how many Nigerians live in the states. Most Africans in the states are Nigerians. I can tell you there is no chance that Nigerians account for less than 10% of the population of all Africans living in the states. You and i both know that is baloney. There is a saying that most of the time if you come across an African in the United States, chances are they are going to be Nigerian.

KidStranglehold:


Good posts.

But the answers you presented were already answered in the OP. Especially one for Indians. I have not seen any poor Indians, Pakistanis or Nigerians come here. And I have many cool Indian friends who were quite well off back home. As for Mexicans most struggle just as much as African-Americans and too take part in "thug culture".

Put I will give you Nigerians a point in that you guys are literally around the world opening shop and starting business, which I believe AA's should start doing. And also you guys practice group economics.

What you provided are not concrete reasons why you African-Americans shouldn't be wealthy like every other American.

You made me really annoyed by saying "you never see poor Indians, Pakistanis or Nigerians come here". Well, for your information, I have a brother living in Maryland. He came to the US on his own funding (like 80% of Nigerians in US) came. Nobody gave him a dime!. He finished secondary school and came there in 1984. I don't know what else he did as a job, but I know at a point he was a security man (gate keeper) and from that to a cab driver. I don't want to bore you with his history, but today you know what he do?. He's into real estate. Lives in his own house there in Maryland, have house in Texas, and few other places as at the time we communicated. He have also acquired real estate over here. This's my own brother. If you want to ask here on Nairaland you'll hear similar "grass to grace" stories.

As a matter of fact, one of the richest man in Africa also worked as a cab driver in the US. His name Mike Adenuga, google it. He own a telecom company, something like AT & T, Verizon. He came to the US poor!. Again, 80% of the people you see came to the US without money. You can ask the whole of Nairaland to confirm this claim, because we should know that not you. Still, I think I'm being gracious with that 80% figure.

NB: Still I'm not disputing the US system is rigged against African-Americans.

KidStranglehold:


The reason I am focusing on Nigerians in America, because this is what this topic is about. Nigerian immigrants in America vs African Americans in America. I don't know about Nigerian education culture in Nigeria itself, but again I do know that Nigerians in America for the most part in my experience come from well off families from their country and do not represent the average Nigeria. Again this one Nigerian also told me this. I am aware that Nigerians are in many other countries and I am already aware that they are the top pupils in the UK.

As for the bolded, that is EXACTLY what I am talking about when I say "skrewed numbers". My point is we shouldn't use small successful populations as representation of an entire population whether they are African-American or Nigerian.

For example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wfbb4pvK3VA

I can easily be like, "SEE! SEE! If these African-Americans can make it big in South Africa then why can't these lazy Black South Africans!" Saying this while also ignoring those AA businessmen in South Africa never lived under the brutal apartheid like black South Africans that actually made whites have a headstart compared to those black South Africans. Again this is what this thread is about.

I wanted to say something but let me reserve my comment

KidStranglehold:


Good posts.

But the answers you presented were already answered in the OP. Especially one for Indians. I have not seen any poor Indians, Pakistanis or Nigerians come here. And I have many cool Indian friends who were quite well off back home. As for Mexicans most struggle just as much as African-Americans and too take part in "thug culture".

Put I will give you Nigerians a point in that you guys are literally around the world opening shop and starting business, which I believe AA's should start doing. And also you guys practice group economics.

Poor people in India, Nigeria, Pakistan, Iran, Ghana, Senegal, etc. etc. don't believe in remaining poor. The average Nigerian if given the opportunity do whatever they can to get educated and rise above socio-economical barriers. I'll give an example. My grandfather was not rich, even by Fulani standards he didn't own much cattle, but when a parent can, they choose to give their children the best education they can get even if it will be tough on them financially.

In Nigerian culture(s), parents are measured by the success of their children. Thus, parents are willing to do anything they can even if they do not have the financial institution to do it, to send their children to the best educational facilities that their money can afford.

One thing about education is that if you excel in an Engineering field be it Computer Science, Engineering, Physics, etc. you will definitely not remain in the lower class. You will move up to solid middle class at the very least.

One thing I noticed about the African American Community in the United States (and you can correct me if I'm wrong) is that the parents do not encourage their children to partake in sciences, maths and engineering. Their parents push them more towards sports and athletics. Being someone with quite a background in computing and mathematics, I can tell you with the utmost certainty that less than .00000000001% ever become professional athletes.

Fulaman198:


Sure I'm willing to be anyone's friend here on NL.

But hope that you are not like the average Muslim that can kill the infidel as was directed

If not


You are my friend.. I always have this aversion to been close to most Muslim because if that infidel killing and jyzra tax or something

Fulaman198:


Poor people in India, Nigeria, Pakistan, Iran, Ghana, Senegal, etc. etc. don't believe in remaining poor. The average Nigerian if given the opportunity do whatever they can to get educated and rise above socio-economical barriers. I'll give an example. My grandfather was not rich, even by Fulani standards he didn't own much cattle, but when a parent can, they choose to give their children the best education they can get even if it will be tough on them financially.

In Nigerian culture(s), parents are measured by the success of their children. Thus, parents are willing to do anything they can even if they do not have the financial institution to do it, to send their children to the best educational facilities that their money can afford.

One thing about education is that if you excel in an Engineering field be it Computer Science, Engineering, Physics, etc. you will definitely not remain in the lower class. You will move up to solid middle class at the very least.

One thing I noticed about the African American Community in the United States (and you can correct me if I'm wrong) is that the parents do not encourage their children to partake in sciences, maths and engineering. Their parents push them more towards sports and athletics. Being someone with quite a background in computing and mathematics, I can tell you with the utmost certainty that less than .00000000001% ever become professional athletes.

This is what I have been trying to let them understand.. The African American are jolly good fellow with their ebonucs and rap music sagging their pants and speaking wanna gonna ..wearing big chains without any impact ....that's scientifically speaking always blaming slavery for their woes forgetting that they are in a better environment to excel ...just look at African ,Chinese and Mexican immigrants.. They are doing much better than the

The truth must be said

musicwriter:


You made me really annoyed by saying "you never see poor Indians, Pakistanis or Nigerians come here". Well, for your information, I have a brother living in Maryland. He came to the US on his own funding (like 80% of Nigerians in US) came. Nobody gave him a dime!. He finished secondary school and came there in 1984. I don't know what else he did as a job, but I know at a point he was a security man (gate keeper) and from that to a cab driver. I don't want to bore you with his history, but today you know what he do?. He's into real estate. Lives in his own house there in Maryland, have house in Texas, and few other places as at the time we communicated. He have also acquired real estate over here. This's my own brother. If you want to ask here on Nairaland you'll hear similar "grass to grace" stories.

As a matter of fact, one of the richest man in Africa also worked as a cab driver in the US. His name Mike Adenuga, google it. He own a telecom company, something like AT & T, Verizon. He came to the US poor!. Again, 80% of the people you see came to the US without money. You can ask the whole of Nairaland to confirm this claim, because we should know that not you. Still, I think I'm being gracious with that 80% figure.

Very true, when I lived in the United States, a lot of cab drivers were from our beloved Nigeria, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Somalia, Pakistan, etc. etc. So there are poor drivers. However, also like you said a lot of them just view it as a part-time job and eventually get a Master's degree and move onto bigger horizons.

musicwriter:


What you provided are not concrete reasons why you African-Americans shouldn't be wealthy like every other American.

You made me really annoyed by saying "you never see poor Indians, Pakistanis or Nigerians come here". Well, for your information, I have a brother living in Maryland. He came to the US on his own funding (like 80% of Nigerians in US) came. Nobody gave him a dime!. He finished secondary school and came there in 1984. I don't know what else he did as a job, but I know at a point he was a security man (gate keeper) and from that to a cab driver. I don't want to bore you with his history, but today you know what he do?. He's into real estate. Lives in his own house there in Maryland, have house in Texas, and few other places as at the time we communicated. He have also acquired real estate over here. This's my own brother. If you want to ask here on Nairaland you'll hear similar "grass to grace" stories.

As a matter of fact, one of the richest man in Africa also worked as a cab driver in the US. His name Mike Adenuga, google it. He own a telecom company, something like AT & T, Verizon. He came to the US poor!. Again, 80% of the people you see came to the US without money. You can ask the whole of Nairaland to confirm this claim, because we should know that not you. Still, I think I'm being gracious with that 80% figure.

NB: Still I'm not disputing the US system is not rigged against African-Americans.

I'd think that the guy won't understand it .that an African comes to USA to hutsle and make money and better his life but the average American black is OK with been the next Micheal Jordan or lil Wayne or something

Fulaman198:


Very true, when I lived in the United States, a lot of cab drivers were from our beloved Nigeria, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Somalia, Pakistan, etc. etc. So there are poor drivers. However, also like you said a lot of them just view it as a part-time job and eventually get a Master's degree and move onto bigger horizons.

Yes, and I forgot to add my brother also went back to school there in the US. He live there with wife as I speak, both as US citizen.

tonychristopher:


This is what I have been trying to let them understand.. The African American are jolly good fellow with their ebonucs and rap music sagging their pants and speaking wanna gonna ..wearing big chains without any impact ....that's scientifically speaking always blaming slavery for their woes forgetting that they are in a better environment to excel ...just look at African ,Chinese and Mexican immigrants.. They are doing much better than the

The truth must be said

I agree with you mostly. I won't also ignore the racial barriers that are intact within the U.S. government because it does exist. There are a lot of hidden racial-based nonsense that occurs in the United States that can not be ignored, but African Americans do need to try to make that push towards Math/Science over Entertainment. African Americans need to realise that whites only see them as entertainment (music, sports, etc. etc.).They should steer themselves away from that and pursue something that will be far more beneficial to them in the long run.

I know many African Americans will hate me for saying that, but that's just the truth.

KidStranglehold:


Good posts.

But the answers you presented were already answered in the OP. Especially one for Indians. I have not seen any poor Indians, Pakistanis or Nigerians come here. And I have many cool Indian friends who were quite well off back home. As for Mexicans most struggle just as much as African-Americans and too take part in "thug culture".

Put I will give you Nigerians a point in that you guys are literally around the world opening shop and starting business, which I believe AA's should start doing. And also you guys practice group economics.

You made a mention of group economics thats nice ..why don't African American copy it..even in ivy league schools African students with Asian counterparts top it all what you seen are more African American kids either dropping out of on scholarship based on theomur basket ball playing prowess not Intellectual

tonychristopher:


But hope that you are not like the average Muslim that can kill the infidel as was directed

If not


You are my friend.. I always have this aversion to been close to most Muslim because if that infidel killing and jyzra tax or something

Whilst I am a Muslim, if you read my posts, I'm very moderate at best. Most of my energy isn't spent thinking about religion though I do believe in God. Also, I think you are being quite unfair to pass judgment on the average Muslim. How many have you meant to jump to such a conclusion ?

Most Muslims (keep in mind there are almost 2 billion worldwide) are kind and welcoming people. Yes, because of certain Militant Extremist groups, Muslims have gotten a bad rap. But you can't use the actions of a few to judge an entire group of people.

musicwriter:


Yes, and I forgot to add my brother also went back to school there in the US. He live there with wife as I speak, both as US citizen.

Very good my brother.

tonychristopher:


I'd think that the guy won't understand it .that an African comes to USA to hutsle and make money and better his life but the average American black is OK with been the next Micheal Jordan or lil Wayne or something

Honestly, it will be hard for him to fathom those Indians, Nigerians, Pakistanis, and Mexicans he sees as having rich background actually came to the US poor.

musicwriter:


What you provided are not concrete reasons why you African-American shouldn't be wealthy like every other American.

You made me really annoyed by saying "you never see poor Indians, Pakistanis or Nigerians come here". Well, for your information, I have a brother living in Maryland. He came to the US on his own funding (like 80% of Nigerians in US) came. Nobody gave him a dime!. He finished secondary school and came there in 1984. I don't know what else he did as a job, but I know at a point he was a security man (gate keeper) and from that to a cab driver. I don't want to bore you with his history, but today you know what he do?. He's into real estate. Lives in his own house there in Maryland, have house in Texas, and few other places as at the time we communicated. He have also acquired real estate over here. This's my own brother. If you want to ask here on Nairaland you'll hear similar "grass to grace" stories.

As a matter of fact, one of the richest man in Africa also worked as a cab driver in the US. His name Mike Adenuga, google it. He own a telecom company, something like AT & T, Verizon. He came to the US poor!. Again, 80% of the people you see came to the US without money. You can ask the whole of Nairaland to confirm this claim, because we should know that not you. Still, I think I'm being gracious with that 80% figure.

NB: Still I'm not disputing the US system is not rigged against African-Americans.

*sigh*

Most Americans know only one thing about Indians–they are really good at spelling bees. When Sameer Mishra correctly spelled guerdon last May to win the 2008 Scripps National Spelling Bee, he became the sixth Indian-American winner in the past 10 years. Finishing second was Sidharth Chand. Kavya Shivashankar took fourth place, and Janhnavi Iyer grabbed the eighth spot. And this was not even the banner year for Indian Americans–in 2005, the top four finishers were all of Indian descent.

It’s tempting to dismiss Indian-American dominance of the spelling bee as just a cultural idiosyncrasy. But Indian success in more important fields is just as eye-catching. Despite constituting less than 1% of the U.S. population, Indian-Americans are 3% of the nation’s engineers, 7% of its IT workers and 8% of its physicians and surgeons. The overrepresentation of Indians in these fields is striking–in practical terms, your doctor is nine times more likely to be an Indian-American than is a random passerby on the street.

Indian Americans are in fact a new “model minority.” This term dates back to the 1960s, when East Asians–Americans of Chinese, Japanese and Korean descent–were noted for their advanced educations and high earnings.

East Asians continue to excel in the U.S, but among minority groups, Indians are clearly the latest and greatest “model.” In 2007, the median income of households headed by an Indian American was approximately $83,000, compared with $61,000 for East Asians and $55,000 for whites.

About 69% of Indian Americans age 25 and over have four-year college degrees, which dwarfs the rates of 51% and 30% achieved by East Asians and whites, respectively. Indian Americans are also less likely to be poor or in prison, compared with whites.

[size=20pt]So why do Indian Americans perform so well? A natural answer is self-selection. Someone willing to pull up roots and move halfway around the world will tend to be more ambitious and hardworking than the average person. But people want to come to the U.S. for many reasons, some of which–being reunited with other family members, for example–have little to do with industriousness. Ultimately, immigration policy decides which kinds of qualities our immigrants possess.[/size]

Under our current immigration policy, a majority of legal immigrants to the U.S. obtain green cards (permanent residency) because they have family ties to U.S. citizens, but a small number (15% in 2007) are selected specifically for their labor market value. The proportion of Indian immigrants given an employment-related green card is one of the highest of any nationality. Consequently, it is mainly India’s educated elite and their families who come to the U.S.

http://www.forbes.com/2009/02/24/bobby-jindal-indian-americans-opinions-contributors_immigrants_minority.html

The truth about Asian Americans' success (it's not what you think)

But it isn't Asian "culture" or any other attribute of ethnicity that is responsible for this success. Instead, it's a unique form of privilege that is grounded in the socioeconomic origins of some -- not all -- Asian immigrant groups. Understanding this privilege offers insights into how we can help children from all backgrounds succeed.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/03/opinions/lee-immigration-ethnic-capital/


Again I already answered your question a million times.

Fulaman198:


Poor people in India, Nigeria, Pakistan, Iran, Ghana, Senegal, etc. etc. don't believe in remaining poor.

No offense, but what type of weird question is this?? No human being doesn't want to remain poor! That's something built into ALL humans.

Fulaman198:

The average Nigerian if given the opportunity do whatever they can to get educated and rise above socio-economical barriers. I'll give an example. My grandfather was not rich, even by Fulani standards he didn't own much cattle, but when a parent can, they choose to give their children the best education they can get even if it will be tough on them financially.

In Nigerian culture(s), parents are measured by the success of their children. Thus, parents are willing to do anything they can even if they do not have the financial institution to do it, to send their children to the best educational facilities that their money can afford.

One thing about education is that if you excel in an Engineering field be it Computer Science, Engineering, Physics, etc. you will definitely not remain in the lower class. You will move up to solid middle class at the very least.

One thing I noticed about the African American Community in the United States (and you can correct me if I'm wrong) is that the parents do not encourage their children to partake in sciences, maths and engineering. Their parents push them more towards sports and athletics. Being someone with quite a background in computing and mathematics, I can tell you with the utmost certainty that less than .00000000001% ever become professional athletes.

Not all African-Americans are trying to be athletics. I don't know why you guys keep bringing that up. The ones who strive for that usually come from a poorer background. While true that there are not that many AAs with stem degrees, most AAs go for degrees pertaining to Law, Nurse/doctors, psychology, business, etc.

Fulaman198:


Again, as someone who has lived in the United States before there is no factual information as to how many Nigerians live in the states. Most Africans in the states are Nigerians. I can tell you there is no chance that Nigerians account for less than 10% of the population of all Africans living in the states. You and i both know that is baloney. There is a saying that most of the time if you come across an African in the United States, chances are they are going to be Nigerian.

So we're just ignoring actual statistics to suit our opinions? Again there are already statistics due to the rising number of African immigrants coming here. Lets not ignore the links/quotes presented to you.

tonychristopher:


You made a mention of group economics thats nice ..why don't African American copy it..even in ivy league schools African students with Asian counterparts top it all what you seen are more African American kids either dropping out of on scholarship based on theomur basket ball playing prowess not Intellectual

You mostly see African-Americans practicing group economics in the South in places like Atlanta. But I agree it needs to be practiced throughout America. But the thing is African-Americans as a group are too separated in the states.

Fulaman198:


I agree with you mostly. I won't also ignore the racial barriers that are intact within the U.S. government because it does exist. There are a lot of hidden racial-based nonsense that occurs in the United States that can not be ignored, but African Americans do need to try to make that push towards Math/Science over Entertainment. African Americans need to realise that whites only see them as entertainment (music, sports, etc. etc.).They should steer themselves away from that and pursue something that will be far more beneficial to them in the long run.

I know many African Americans will hate me for saying that, but that's just the truth.

But you said a known fact and global truth

When they want to do anything scientific immigration in UN or USA they will pick an African American to sign and dance ..but how many African American are making scientific and research based presentation on their finding.. Very few

Check out ivy league and gifted children schools

The stats are there

Fulaman198:


I agree with you mostly. I won't also ignore the racial barriers that are intact within the U.S. government because it does exist. There are a lot of hidden racial-based nonsense that occurs in the United States that can not be ignored, but African Americans do need to try to make that push towards Math/Science over Entertainment. African Americans need to realise that whites only see them as entertainment (music, sports, etc. etc.).They should steer themselves away from that and pursue something that will be far more beneficial to them in the long run.

I know many African Americans will hate me for saying that, but that's just the truth.

It is and it kinda isn't the truth.

KidStranglehold:


So we're just ignoring actual statistics to suit our opinions? Again there are already statistics due to the rising number of African immigrants coming here. Lets not ignore the links/quotes presented to you.

I viewed your link and there is something that does not make sense.

Based on the statistics you linked from 2012, there are around 1.9 million "Africans" uncounted for. So what nationalities are they? Because I can tell you first hand that a lot of those 1.9 million will more than likely come from an Anglophone country.

The data parsed from 2013 shows Nigerians at 300,000. Yet again, there are around 2 million "Africans" un-accounted for.

Most French Speaking Africans go to either France or Belgium when they immigrate to another country. Most Nigerians go to either United States or the United Kingdom.

I am willing to wager that most of those 1.9 million "Africans" are Nigerians. There is no such nationality as "African". You can't say it's the other "Sub-Saharan" Africans because they have their own category.

musicwriter:


Honestly, it will be hard for him to fathom those Indians, Nigerians, Pakistanis, and Mexicans he sees as having rich background actually came to the US poor.

Exactly.. . he has refused to understand that if those are rich and he claimed ..why the hell are they in states..they should be balling in their respective countries

The immigrants came to USA for American dream and they are mostly poor

Fulaman198:


I viewed your link and there is something that does not make sense.

Based on the statistics you linked from 2012, there are around 1.9 million "Africans" uncounted for. So what nationalities are they? Because I can tell you first hand that a lot of those 1.9 million will more than likely come from an Anglophone country.

The data parsed from 2013 shows Nigerians at 300,000. Yet again, there are around 2 million "Africans" un-accounted for.

Most French Speaking Africans go to either France or Belgium when they immigrate to another country. Most Nigerians go to either United States or the United Kingdom.

I am willing to wager that most of those 1.9 million "Africans" are Nigerians. There is no such nationality as "African". You can't say it's the other "Sub-Saharan" Africans because they have their own category.

Those unknown Africans can simply be other nationalities grouped in with each other since they are too small to have their own categories.

But fact is there is a number for Nigerians in the United States.

tonychristopher:


But you said a known fact and global truth

When they want to do anything scientific immigration in UN or USA they will pick an African American to sign and dance ..but how many African American are making scientific and research based presentation on their finding.. Very few

Check out ivy league and gifted children schools

The stats are there

True

tonychristopher:


Exactly.. . he has refused to understand that if those are rich and he claimed ..why the hell are they in states..they should be balling in their respective countries

The immigrants came to USA for American dream and they are mostly poor

Then post studies debunking the ones I posted. When many recent studies states Asians and Indians who come to the USA already come from well-off families.

We can ignore this all we want.

The truth about Asian Americans' success (it's not what you think)
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/03/opinions/lee-immigration-ethnic-capital/

Asian Americans and the 'model minority' myth
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0123-wu-chua-model-minority-chinese-20140123-story.html

The Growing Poverty Crisis That Everyone Is Ignoring
http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2015/09/26/3705261/asian-american-poverty/

And like I said Mexicans are no better of than AAs. Do you even live in the states?

KidStranglehold:


Those unknown Africans can simply be other nationalities grouped in with each other since they are too small to have their own categories.

But fact is there is a number for Nigerians in the United States.

I highly doubt it. The amount of other African nationalities is summed up as "other Sub-Saharan African." What I think this is a classic case of American incompetence in regards to Africans (they always botch things up concerning Africans). There is indeed a number for Nigerians, however I'm willing to wager that the number of Nigerians is completely inaccurate.

Lets also ignore the average Indian is poor back home.

Thirty-three percent of world’s poorest live in India
http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2013/04/18/thirty-three-percent-of-worlds-poorest-live-in-india/

One in three of world's poorest live in India
http://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/One-in-three-of-worlds-poorest-live-in-India/2013/04/19/article1552345.ece

Fulaman198:


I highly doubt it. The amount of other African nationalities is summed up as "other Sub-Saharan African." What I think this is a classic case of American incompetence in regards to Africans (they always botch things up concerning Africans). There is indeed a number for Nigerians, however I'm willing to wager that the number of Nigerians is completely inaccurate.

Maybe.

KidStranglehold:
Lets also ignore most Indians are poor back home.

Thirty-three percent of world’s poorest live in India
http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2013/04/18/thirty-three-percent-of-worlds-poorest-live-in-india/

One in three of world's poorest live in India
http://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/One-in-three-of-worlds-poorest-live-in-India/2013/04/19/article1552345.ece

If that's true, then why does India have the 3rd largest GDP in the world thus surpassing their former colonial oppressors.

Fact is that there are poor people everywhere worldwide, in every country too. Just because the West likes to fabricate statistical information that favours them does not make it true. India and China are certainly going to be the world powers very soon.

Fulaman198:


If that's true, then why does India have the 3rd largest GDP in the world thus surpassing their former colonial oppressors.

Fact is that there are poor people everywhere worldwide, in every country too. Just because the West likes to fabricate statistical information that favours them does not make it true. India and China are certainly going to be the world powers very soon.

You need to know the difference between GDP and GDP per capita. GDP is just the wealth of the nations economy. GDP per capita actually touches base on the individuals of a specific country. India in terms of GDP per capita is actually POORER than Nigeria!

As for your second paragraph that is an argument for another time.

PS: India does not have the third largest economy. Its actually Japan.