MuttleyLaff:
I will repeat myself with a crucial point you seem to be overlooking where plḗthō meaning "full'' and implies "filled to one's (i.e. individual) capacity corroborates the below repeated paragraph I earlier mentioned in previous posts

Believers are on 24/7 charging, they ought to never unplug but remain connected ever charging
and receiving from the Mains, as much flowing current they are able and capable to receive.
The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak
The Holy Spirit is willing, to give as much as one can handle
but it is either faith or the flesh, at times which when weak that holds one back.

Full is not constant, as you grow so does your fullness grows. This is why, one is constantly plugged in to the Mains Holy Spirit
You see, the difference between an inflating or infilling balloon and a believer, is that a ballon bursts with air once it gets pass its fullness threshold, however the infilling Holy Spirit will continue to infill into a believer to the extent the believer gives it room to fill into.

When you say recharging, it's like you saying the juice is used up so requires topping up or recharging.

I have heard and read about little faith, weak faith etcetera but nothing like that about the Holy Spirit. One either has the Holy Spirit or one doesn't have it all. Worst case scenario, one has the residual Holy Spirit after it is quenched and there isn't anymore flow of the Holy Spirit current because the plug is pulled

It is the same current flowing, there is no second current flow. I have never heard, read or being taught about second current flows into electronic or electrical components. Electric flow is electric flow, there are no distinctions, so it is with the infilling of the Holy Spirit to the apostles after Pentecost
They just made room or more space for the infilling to fill into

Do people recharge electric irons?
When current electric flows into an electric iron, is it possible to discover other iron features/functionalities not previously used?

Bro,

In summary, if I get you right you are saying once you are filled with the holy ghost, you don't need to recharge again.

From my own little understand, I think what MuttleyLaff is trying to explain is that Filling of the Holy Spirit does not end at the baptism of the Holy Spirit and also does not need recharging as you don't loose the power and the gifts in you. Its a continous filling. The Apostles didn't start performing miracles, signs, and wonders on the day of Penticost, the bible only says they were filled and spoke in new tongues. Summary of all he said was that the more you go deeper attending and growing yourself in the things of the spirit, the more your create room for MORE filling and with that, the Holy Spirit releases more of HIS Power, gifts and annointing. So one don't recharge" recharge means to restore something" as if loosing the Holy Spirit coz the Spirit of the Lord is always there .

Correct me if am mistaken. Thanks

E be like say salt don commot from this thread

I am very far from home, but i will have the opportunity to take the bold step this year. I know the Lord will help me. Thanks brethren, for the love you show.

MuttleyLaff:


With all due respects to both of you, IMHO, there is nothing like recharging there however is something akin to ''''staying plugged in'' to the Source''''
''Staying plugged in'' to the Source, allows the continue flowing of the current of the Holy Spirit from the Source to recipients for infilling

Believers dont recharge, but stay plugged in to the Source, even with full bar on charge displaying

Believers are on 24/7 charging, they ought to never unplug but remain connected ever charging
and receiving from the Mains, as much flowing current they are able and capable to receive.
The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak
The Holy Spirit is willing, to give as much as one can handle
but it is either faith or the flesh, at times which when weak that holds one back
Believers are to fill in the Holy Spirit oversize shoes and suit with the current ever flowing from the Mains they are plugged and connected to

''Quenching the spirit'' happens when the plug is pulled, is another of my IMHO
as pulling the plug prevents the Holy Spirit from happening or continuing flowing from Source to fill up recipients

There are certain things we do (e.g. Samson and King Saul to name just two), which pulls the plug and ultimately quenches the Spirit

¹¹Do not banish me from Your presence
or take Your Holy Spirit from me.
¹²Restore the joy of Your salvation to me,
and give me a willing spirit
- Psalm 51:11-12

There are at least two ingredients for keeping possession of Holy Spirit, they are:
1) God's presence - Remaining or staying in God's presence
2) Willing spirit - Having a willing spirit

The lack of 1 and 2 undermines the Holy Spirit and causes a total loss of it (i.e. quenches it)

The loss of the Holy Spirit, is clear or obvious to the trained eye, mind or observer
and the loss might manifest in two ways:
1) Instant total loss - total loss of Holy Spirit happening or coming immediately
2) Gradual loss - loss taking place slowly with a lingering residual Holy Spirit

Samson in Judges 16:20 and King Saul in 1 Samuel 16:14, are two examples of where, when the plug is pulled, the Spirit effectively is quenched and there is ''Total loss of the Holy Spirit''
Samson and King Saul, are also examples of the active resistance against God's work, and also persistent rebellion/sin getting the Spirit quenched vooks talked about

Gradual loss, where loss of the Holy Spirit can take place slowly with a lingering residual Holy Spirit, occurs in society today among believers, known as yesterday's man

We all know that one of the characteristics of a plugged in and switched on electric iron is heat (i.e. it gets hot or have high temperatures)
it also is known that, a just finished used iron, remains hot for a while even though it's being switched off and unplugged from the electic socket.

The Holy Spirit and believers, to a certain degree, are somewhat like the electric current flowing through the cable making a plugged in and switched on electric iron hot.
- The Holy Spirit is the electric current flowing through the cable and the believer is the electric iron

Now the reason for this lingering post, is merely to touch on that kind of believer tagged ''yesterday's man'' and the connection with Gradual loss
(i.e. loss taking place slowly with a lingering residual Holy Spirit)

The ''Yesterday's man'' believers, are like, a just used iron, switched off and unplugged from the electic socket but remaining hot due to residual heat
The Holy Spirit has been quenched and stopped flowing into the ''yesterday's man'' believer
but the ''yesterday's man'' believer, to some degrees, even after the switch off and unplugging from the Source,
remains still ''hot'' due to the lingering residual ''heat'' Holy Spirit

Most ''yesterday's man'' believer, dont know the Holy Spirit has been quenched because they are still showing the characteristics of the Holy Spirit, as in that lingering residual ''heat'' Holy Spirit

When the lingering residual ''heat'' Holy Spirit is finally and totally lost, then some of the ''yesterday's man'' believers turn to making unholy alliances with dark forces and/or undesirable spiritual entities to save face

The gullible and easily influenced who dont know about the ''yesterday's man'' believer's total loss of the Holy Spirit and the fake one replacing the original are easily deceived by it

this would be in context with John 15;1-8?

MuttleyLaff:
I will repeat myself with a crucial point you seem to be overlooking where plḗthō meaning "full'' and implies "filled to one's (i.e. individual) capacity corroborates the below repeated paragraph I earlier mentioned in previous posts

Believers are on 24/7 charging, they ought to never unplug but remain connected ever charging
and receiving from the Mains, as much flowing current they are able and capable to receive.
The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak
The Holy Spirit is willing, to give as much as one can handle
but it is either faith or the flesh, at times which when weak that holds one back.

Full is not constant, as you grow so does your fullness grows. This is why, one is constantly plugged in to the Mains Holy Spirit
You see, the difference between an inflating or infilling balloon and a believer, is that a ballon bursts with air once it gets pass its fullness threshold, however the infilling Holy Spirit will continue to infill into a believer to the extent the believer gives it room to fill into.

When you say recharging, it's like you saying the juice is used up so requires topping up or recharging.

I have heard and read about little faith, weak faith etcetera but nothing like that about the Holy Spirit. One either has the Holy Spirit or one doesn't have it all. Worst case scenario, one has the residual Holy Spirit after it is quenched and there isn't anymore flow of the Holy Spirit current because the plug is pulled

It is the same current flowing, there is no second current flow. I have never heard, read or being taught about second current flows into electronic or electrical components. Electric flow is electric flow, there are no distinctions, so it is with the infilling of the Holy Spirit to the apostles after Pentecost
They just made room or more space for the infilling to fill into

Do people recharge electric irons?
When current electric flows into an electric iron, is it possible to discover other iron features/functionalities not previously used?

I got banned yesterday by the spambot.

I think we are saying close to the same thing.
If you note, I was clear that the refilling is not a repeat of the previous experience but it is entirely new. So far be it from you to insinuate replenishing. That's the problem with analogies. They are never exact. The disciples filling of the Holy Spirit the second time manifested in boldness. The first time it was tongues. Do you honestly think that on Pentecost the disciples LACKED capacity for receiving boldness, and they only stumbled into this sometimes in Acts 8 at which point they lifted up their voices to heavens,and God filled them with boldness? Exactly what is 'space for boldness'? Fear?

A more sensible way of looking at it is that before the threatenings, there was no need for boldness. Once they were intimidated, they were cowered, and they ran to God seeking, not a way out as many are wont to but a way through; boldness. Boldness is a new dimension of filling with Holy Ghost they had yet to experience.

The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak is about man's spirit vs his flesh, and not Holy Spirit vs man's flesh.

That theory of yours of 'making space' makes man the lord over the Spirit of God. There is nothing in scriptures remotely suggesting that some are more filled than others nor some have more capacity or space to receive Holy Spirit than others. Maybe you can regale us what capacity you have created lately, what filled it, and the effects of filling this freshly minted space/capacity.

Be that as it may, I will not pursue this debate beyond this post for the sake of unity of the participants of the thread. If you wish, start a new thread and invite me. Thanks

Sometimes some messages are passed across to viewers but only the awakened may decipher it or read meaning others may pass it as nothing.

I stumbled on a cartoon yesterday and what they said there made me remember Charles vision of spirits coming into our world.

in the cartoon they where like " welcome to a new era of spirituality the portals have been open now spirits can freely come into our world and live with man"

Refilling, filling, expanding filling.....whatever lexical semantics you like to play.... I know this as a matter of truth and experience, whenever you minister under the anointing, you need to fall back to get recharge both physically and spiritually.

superior1:
Refilling, filling, expanding filling.....whatever lexical semantics you like to play.... I know this as a matter of truth and experience, whenever you minister under the anointing, you need to fall back to get recharge both physically and spiritually.

Bro,
Welcome back. Anas09 and all of us missed you BIG

temi4fash:
Bro,

In summary, if I get you right you are saying once you are filled with the holy ghost, you don't need to recharge again.

Yes, that is what I inferred
and why it was asked whether people recharge electric irons?
One is infilled to ones capacity, but remember we grow everyday
The spirit man grows everyday, and since you are contan tly plugged into the Power Source
The rate of the infilling of the Holy Spirit is proportional to the spirit man's capacity
We all get the power of the Holy Spirit via infilling
but one will not get more power of the Holy Spirit than one is capable of handling or containing

JMG1:
From my own little understand, I think what MuttleyLaff is trying to explain is that Filling of the Holy Spirit does not end at the baptism of the Holy Spirit and also does not need recharging as you don't loose the power and the gifts in you. Its a continous filling. The Apostles didn't start performing miracles, signs, and wonders on the day of Penticost, the bible only says they were filled and spoke in new tongues. Summary of all he said was that the more you go deeper attending and growing yourself in the things of the spirit, the more your create room for MORE filling and with that, the Holy Spirit releases more of HIS Power, gifts and annointing.
So one don't recharge" recharge means to restore something" as if loosing the Holy Spirit coz the Spirit of the Lord is always there .

Correct me if am mistaken. Thanks

Exactly 110% thanks
We ought to remain plugged in, connected to the Mains and switched ON for the continous infilling or inflowing of the Holy Spirit current
We remain plugged in even at 100% full bar charge display

MizyB:
this would be in context with John 15:1-8?

Thank you for this well spotted and relevant passage

vooks:
I got banned yesterday by the spambot.

I think we are saying close to the same thing.
If you note, I was clear that the refilling is not a repeat of the previous experience but it is entirely new. So far be it from you to insinuate replenishing. That's the problem with analogies. They are never exact. The disciples filling of the Holy Spirit the second time manifested in boldness. The first time it was tongues. Do you honestly think that on Pentecost the disciples LACKED capacity for receiving boldness, and they only stumbled into this sometimes in Acts 8 at which point they lifted up their voices to heavens,and God filled them with boldness? Exactly what is 'space for boldness'? Fear?

A more sensible way of looking at it is that before the threatenings, there was no need for boldness. Once they were intimidated, they were cowered, and they ran to God seeking, not a way out as many are wont to but a way through; boldness. Boldness is a new dimension of filling with Holy Ghost they had yet to experience.

The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak is about man's spirit vs his flesh, and not Holy Spirit vs man's flesh.

That theory of yours of 'making space' makes man the lord over the Spirit of God. There is nothing in scriptures remotely suggesting that some are more filled than others nor some have more capacity or space to receive Holy Spirit than others. Maybe you can regale us what capacity you have created lately, what filled it, and the effects of filling this freshly minted space/capacity.

Be that as it may, I will not pursue this debate beyond this post for the sake of unity of the participants of the thread. If you wish, start a new thread and invite me. Thanks

Naija says ''ti a ba bu ounje sinu epo epa, eni ma yo, a yo''
loosely means
''when food is served in groundnut pods, diners who will eat, enjoy the meal and be full will be''

superior1:
Refilling, filling, expanding filling.....

''refilling, filling, expanding filling'' as earlier mentioned refers to filling to one's capacity. One is continually filled as one remains connected and plugged in to the Mains

Acts 13:52
And the disciples were continually filled with joy and with the Holy Spirit.

superior1:
whatever lexical semantics you like to play.... .

Dont know what you on about with this your sort of crab mentality ''whatever lexical semantics you like to play''

superior1:
I know this as a matter of truth and experience, whenever you minister under the anointing, you need to fall back to get recharge both physically and spiritually.

Do TELEVISIONS, RADIOS or electric irons plugged in and connected to a Mains Power Source need recharging?

Believers ought not to disconnect from the Mains Power Supply,
they are in use at full bar 100% charged and stay or remain so as they PERMANENTLY connected to Mains even when is use.

The key note, most are overlooking, is if you arent disconnected from the Mains, why would you deplete and the need recharging?

MuttleyLaff:
Naija says ''ti a ba bu ounje sinu epo epa, eni ma yo, a yo''
loosely means
''when food is served in groundnut pods, diners who will eat, enjoy the meal and be full will be''

Whatever

vooks:

Bro,
Welcome back. Anas09 and all of us missed you BIG

Thanks Bro...kudos for your efforts here, it is refreshing reading your strict, balance and practical comments

MuttleyLaff:
''refilling, filling, expanding filling'' as earlier mentioned refers to filling to one's capacity. One is continually filled as one remains connected and plugged in to the Mains

Acts 13:52
And the disciples were continually filled with joy and with the Holy Spirit.

Dont know what you on about with this your sort of crab mentality ''whatever lexical semantics you like to play''

Do TELEVISIONS, RADIOS or electric irons plugged in and connected to a Mains Power Source need recharging?

Believers ought not to disconnect from the Mains Power Supply,
they are in use at full bar 100% charged and stay or remain so as they PERMANENTLY connected to Mains even when is use.

The key note, most are overlooking, is if you arent disconnected from the Mains, why would you deplete and the need recharging?

Like I usually do, I would have replied you in a more brotherly fashion but for the word "crab mentality", I wont bother replying a second time.

I took college Physics. Televisions, Radio and most other electrical appliances have got a capacitor, it helps to retain electrical current in the circuit, stabilize voltage and power flow to avoid raw electrical current hitting the circuit. No Minister/Christian stands 24/7 under the raw anointing of the Holy Spirit, have not seen any with such claims.

Capacitors have internal dielectric system which often drains the stored charges, the capacitors become weak and their capacitance weakens overtime, it has nothing to do with the steadiness of current supply. It needs to be recharged or replaced.

I can still recall enough elementary physics to do the talk like it appears you are full of...folks like you are good at theories but I doubt if you have ever put them into work, any minister who operates and have operated under the anointing will only laugh at your Christian physics theory.

The kingdom of God is not in mere words or quoting drakes, bible concordance, Greek/Aramaic etc, those are stuffs we are done with, there are many unbelieving theologians who do that quite often. Our study at this stage is to get ourselves approved as a workman that needed not be ashamed, dividing the word with accuracy empathizing the integrity of the word with our lives, fruits and demonstration of power with visible signs and wonders.

Whatever you chose to believe, I wish you well.

trueking:
E be like say salt don commot from this thread

Then bring am back nah, dat nah why all of us dey here.

vooks:
Bro, Welcome back. Anas09 and all of us missed you BIG

Yes, General. And there are many others we don't hear from recently too. Where is CCollins? Where is Collins the student? The house needs to hear you guys.

zeongeon:
Sometimes some messages are passed across to viewers but only the awakened may decipher it or read meaning others may pass it as nothing.

I stumbled on a cartoon yesterday and what they said there made me remember Charles vision of spirits coming into our world.

in the cartoon they where like " welcome to a new era of spirituality the portals have been open now spirits can freely come into our world and live with man"

Great sensitivity you have there brother. It's good to be open to the Spirit at all times..


There are lots of hidden messages in movies and cartoons.. All coming from Satan and his demons..

Satan is trying to desensitize us to sin..


I shared a revelation that I once had when we were in the last days.. Seeing a demon seemed out of the ordinary. Most cartoons now contain too many demon and monster characters. The time will come when seeing a demon physically in it's real form will be normal in this world.


Satan and his fallen angels will gather a great army of demons to war against the people of God in these last days.. But before that happens, they will desensitize us to sin(they've already began that). Very soon homosexuality will spread all over the world and look quite normal. Fornication and Adultery will look normal soon.


I used to remember when the word 'sexy' sounded too raw and was seen as a foul word. But now it sounds quite normal.


Everywhere I turn to and look around, I see the demonic doctrine of sex being preached. I walk on the road, I see girls in very skimpy dresses, even under age girls. Everything is sex sex sex.. It's everywhere. It's like traps set everywhere for a person. It's on the TV. It's in movies. It's at work. It's even in the church.


It's a demonic spirit responsible for this.. That demon that controls sex and lust. Ishtar. Queen of Babylon.. The evil spirit that rules in America that rules the whole world.. (Rev 18).. God will destroy the power of this spirit.



Satan knows that sex is the major sin to bring down any man/woman of God.


The world is going down quickly and Jesus is watching, waiting to come collect His people.

God bless you bro.

vooks:
I got banned yesterday by the spambot.

My belated sorry about the ban
but personally I think the spambot should have banned you longer, as I read a few knee jerk reactions, too many, in your post, however God knows best

vooks:
Whatever

That ''whatever'' is classic,

''Ti a ba bu ounje sinu epo epa, eni ma yo, a yo''
which loosely means
''when food is served in groundnut pods, diners who will eat, enjoy the meal and be full will be''

and it was implying that food doesnt have to be dished and served on plates,
(i.e. which you were egging me to do via opening a new thread with your invite)
as when it is served on groundnut pods, there will be those who will eat out of the pods and at the end of it, not only eat one's fill but be full too.

I will now reply piece by piece your post

vooks:
I think we are saying close to the same thing.

Yes, it is correct when you think we are saying close to the same thing,
however, mind you, it is the sense of duty and the purpose found in Colossian 3:9 which tells us not to lie to each other
and also the instructive in Ephesian 4:15 which tells us to speak the truth in love which compelled me to comment on you saying believers recharge
So, for the record, it is ALWAYS in love that I react and write some truth(s) to counter the ''recharging'' misconception

vooks:
If you note, I was clear that the refilling is not a repeat of the previous experience but it is entirely new.

If you were clear that the refilling, is not a repeat of the previous experience but it is

entirely new
did you know and/or notice I never used ''refilling'' but had consciously used ''infilling''?

vooks:
So far be it from you to insinuate replenishing

So far be it from you claiming I insinuated replenishing. I had always made reference to ''flowing'' (i.e. as in inflow, infill upon making

Connection) and never suggested ''replenishing''
You know about the ''indwelling of the Holy Spirit'' and ''infilling of the Holy Spirit''? Right?

vooks:
That's the problem with analogies. They are never exact.

There is/are no problem(s) with using analogies.
Jesus used analogies quite a few number of times. Analogies shed light on or throw light on truths, analogies made understanding truths simple.
If analogies are good enough for Jesus, it is a good enough tool for use by me too. Biko, I make no apologies, if unable to acknowledge the truth from the analogies.

If you say analogies are never exact, you techically are right. This is why Jesus has more than one analogy or different analogies to describe the Kingdom of God.
Each analogy throws more on dimensions not shown on the other analogies
Remember when I used an analogy of the kids wearing oversize shoes and suits, then another about electrical appliances (e.g. iron, TV etcetera) plugged in, connected to the Mains and switched on. They compliment each other about the Holy Spirit being like an oversized worn dress or be a flowing current, giving power to what is connected to the Mains
Each analogy taking about the same thing and shedding more light, information & knowledge about the Holy Spirit subject where the other might be limited in offering

vooks:
The disciples filling of the Holy Spirit the second time manifested in boldness.
The first time it was tongues. Do you honestly think that on Pentecost the disciples LACKED capacity for receiving boldness, and they only stumbled into this sometimes in Acts 8 at which point they

lifted up their voices to heavens,and God filled them with boldness? Exactly what is 'space for boldness'? Fear?

If not, why didnt the disciples have the boldness, at the ''indwelling of the Holy

Spirit''
The ''infilling of the Holy Spirit'' of casts out fear, giving the capacity to receive boldness which is in the power of the ''infilling Holy Spirit''
Now there is you, going on thinking capacity means only space, volume or amount when apart from them lot, it means also ability, capability

When you connect your flat or house to the national grid (i.e. major or local NEPA or PHCN power stations), it powers your flat/house to your capacity
It powers your flat/house to the capacity of whatever electrical appliances you have present.
Also the electrical appliances wont come on unless they are plugged in to the sockets and switched on
It is the same amount of power that comes into your flat/house, that will come into my flat/house but it will be dispersed according to needed electrical equipments capacities
The power coming in is constant continual and ever present. We dont need to recharge the TV, the fridge freezer, the radio, the AC, the cooker, we just make sure that there are connected to the

Mains via a live socket and merely switch them on for use

vooks:
A more sensible way of looking at it is that before the threatenings, there was no need for boldness.
Once they were intimidated, they were cowered, and they ran to God seeking, not a way out as many are wont to but a way through; boldness. Boldness is a new dimension of filling with Holy Ghost

they had yet to experience.

Response to be continued...

superior1:
Like I usually do, I would have replied you in a more brotherly fashion but for the word "crab mentality", I wont bother replying a second time.

Sort of crab mentality is not crab mentality

Dont know what you on about with this your sort of crab mentality ''whatever lexical semantics you like to play'' was the
- sort of crab mentality is not crab mentality

Sort of crab mentality means making snide remarks like:
''Refilling, filling, expanding filling.....whatever lexical semantics you like to play.... ''
which sort of sounds like, if I cant see the bigger picture, neither can you.

What a flippant remark, and reducing someone's labour & used precious time to ''whatever lexical semantics you like to play''
Who is playing. You think we post here out of idleness or boredom?
You think people post here for thrills, kicks or likes? Hmm?
Or fancy posting on the thread for killing time sake?

superior1:
I wont bother replying a second time

If it is going to be another jawando, thoughtless, careless or irresponsible reply, then I agree with you not to bother any other time

superior1:
I took college Physics. Televisions, Radio and most other electrical appliances have got a capacitor, it helps to retain electrical current in the circuit, stabilize voltage and power flow to avoid raw

electrical current hitting the circuit.

SMH,
you showing off your knowledge of capacitor, thas now made a really big impression of you on me.

superior1:
No Minister/Christian stands 24/7 under the raw anointing of the Holy Spirit, have not seen any with such claims

Where did you read about standing 24/7 under the raw anointing of the Holy

Spirit?
Who did you read, typed standing 24/7 under the raw anointing of the Holy Spirit?

If you had ''farabale'' (i.e. humbly) read the post trail, you would've correctly seen it, read and elsewhere echoed as ''connect 24/7 to the Source or Mains''

When you connect your flat or house to the national grid (i.e. major or local NEPA or PHCN power stations), it powers your flat/house to your capacity
It powers your flat/house to the capacity of whatever electrical appliances you have present.
Also the electrical appliances wont come on unless they are plugged in to the sockets and switched on
It is the same amount of power that comes into your flat/house, that will come into my flat/house but it will be dispersed according to needed electrical equipments capacities
The power coming in is constant, continual and ever present. We dont need to recharge the TV, the fridge freezer, the radio, the AC, the cooker, we just make sure that there are connected to the

Mains via a live socket and merely switch them on for use

Likewise Minister/Christian ought to remain connected 24/7 to the Mains. And if connected, but not switched on, then switch on as per when needed, to receive the Juice, ever present in the Wire or

Cable dispense from the Power Station

superior1:
Capacitors have internal dielectric system which often drains the stored charges, the capacitors become weak and their capacitance weakens overtime, it has nothing to do with the steadiness of

current supply. It needs to be recharged or replaced.

Arent you here, obfuscating the issue, complicating a simple analogy and running wild with it and turning it into something else

The Holy Spirit doesnt need to be recharged or replaced
We connect to the Holy Spirit and receive power by plugging in to the Mains via a socket and remain plugged into it for constant Holy Spirit power supply
Now, if you had meant and/or referred to recharging, as in, recharge faith which has become weak
or replacing, as in, replace faith which was lost, I would gladly agree with you

Believers get fired up by hearing and hearing by the word. Believers get charged up or recharged by hearing and hearing by the word

Believers are not powered by batteries. In fact, cant be, not by batteries, which when it runs low or down, needs recharging.

Believers are powered (i.e. anointed to do stuff) via the Holy Spirit.
When believers switch off, the Holy Spirit.is stopped from power flowing, when believers switch on, the Holy Spirit automatically transmits flow

What you superior1, don't want to admit, is that, believers need the power from above at all times.
Believers need it 24/7 in their all and every task or action, 24/7 in every talk, 24/7 in every thought and deed.
Without mincing words, wherever and in whatever believers find themselves, they need the constant power source connection and that is only possible if they are, all the time, plugged in.
Believers recharge faith but they dont recharge the Holy Spirit

Mark this too, renewing a right spirit within a believer(s) (i.e. born from above) is not infilling of the Holy Spirit or the indwelling of the Holy Spirit

superior1:
I can still recall enough elementary physics to do the talk like it appears you are full of...

Dont be shy, finish what you started and left with three dots unended. Full of what?

superior1:
folks like you are good at theories

SMH, this remark tasted sour and bitter. It and the subsequents are full of venom

superior1:
but I doubt if you have ever put them into work, any minister who operates and have operated under the anointing will only laugh at your Christian physics theory

Scoffers, right?
Well scoffers were active in the times of Jesus and since scoffers are yet extinct, so laughed at by scoffers over the ''Christian physics theory'' sic, is worth the trouble
We, all, will give account for all

superior1:
The kingdom of God is not in mere words or quoting drakes, bible concordance, Greek/Aramaic etc, those are stuffs we are done with, there are many unbelieving theologians who do that quite often. Our study at this stage is to get ourselves approved as a workman that needed not be ashamed, dividing the word with accuracy empathizing the integrity of the word with our lives, fruits and demonstration of power with visible signs and wonders.

SMH. Not much to say to this, except, as you retreat back into that world of fantasy and self-delusion, watch it brother, watch the swagger, because pride comes before a fall

superior1:
Whatever you chose to believe, I wish you well

Without adding the patronise in your well wish, almost wished you same you wished me
but opted out for wishing you a positive blessing

Superior1 has said it all....

He couldn't have said any better

God bless and continue to increase you sir

@mutteyleaf

if you are using power generation as means of argument then your argument is flawed

why

1. No two flat can use the same amount of power even if they use the same amount of items cos of what we call tolerance level in the electrical equipment

2. Are you saying you can measure the amount of Holyghost living in a person because power can be measured.

3. Are you saying for instance a man is usually under the influence of the spirit 24 hours. do you watch and use all the items of your huse for 24hrs even when there is a mains supply.


N.B

When we argue or debate on issues we should learn to respect one another, As we are brothers and sis in Christ. So, we should not argue and fight.

Shalom

I Love any discussion about Holy Ghost and am so allergic to him.

From What everyone had said about the Refilling and Recharging all are correct. But IMHO, lets not forget that the terms is also referred to as "retreat", as a matter of fact the statement "Believers dont recharge, but stay plugged in to the Source, even with full bar on charge displaying" is ever correct base on my reason that the Holy Spirit is ever in-dwelling and we believer can run at fullness of our capacity (till we get to the end of our self) and the Holy Spirit is ever ready to supply from his unlimited strength as we continue to demand from him The Grace.

But no matter how we push hard, our Physical body and mentality has limitation and can wear-out if we keep pushing. The Grace and Power of God will be their but the body is still carnal and must be relaxed (Refilled).

Some areas we need refilling
Our Body: for the fact that we are ever connected, does not mean we should not take a retreat, A preacher can go on 90 days crusade preaching 3 times a day praying for the sick and administering counseling, the power of God will keep flowing as he keeps demanding (The spirit of a prophet is subject to him) but after the crusade you can guess what will happen? A good moment of retreat.
Our Mentality: we are not all knowing, there are many times we err in word or action and people do not see evil in what we did, who then will correct us, only HIM. we are being transformed in the mind when we retreat.

When we pray; we do refilling....When we study the word; we do refiling

Excerpt From God's General 1 - Roberts L. Comment on Evans Roberst
To carry the weight that comes with leading a revival—especially for a nation—all three parts of the human being— spirit, soul, and body—must be made strong. So as we can see from his life, there is more to revival than spiritual revelation. Spiritual hunger and revelation are always where it begins. But we are more than spiritual beings. The human body and emotions must be strong through the Word of God in order to maintain revival in the earth.
Your work for God doesn't have to fail or be cut short. Strengthen your body, season your soul, and yield your spirit to the plan of God. You can have revival in your nation and run with it successfully!

What putting forward here is that for the fact that we are ever connected does meant we should not retreat for refreshing/refilling. Jesus know the value of this so Himself did it. why do we think God the Son need to pray, because he was in a mortal body.

Electric Appliances connected to power and remain unplug, will increase in temperature heated up and eventually burn. But when their is regulator their is safety. Me think the Israelite believed that the power of God is so much that when a Mortal body encounter Him will die. So we can keep operating at our full capacity without refreshing.

As the youngest in the house tis my Humble opinion

temi4fash:
Superior1 has said it all....

He couldn't have said any better

God bless and continue to increase you sir

@mutteyleaf

if you are using power generation as means of argument then your argument is flawed

why

1. No two flat can use the same amount of power even if they use the same amount of items cos of what we call tolerance level in the electrical equipment

2. Are you saying you can measure the amount of Holyghost living in a person because power can be measured.

3. Are you saying for instance a man is usually under the influence of the spirit 24 hours. do you watch and use all the items of your huse for 24hrs even when there is a mains supply.


N.B

When we argue or debate on issues we should learn to respect one another, As we are brothers and sis in Christ. So, we should not argue and fight.

Shalom

Please carefully read all the analogies about the Holy Spirit I've used before inventing up what I 've never insuniated.

I mentioned power supply and how you managed to switch this to power generation us baffling.

The Holy Spirit is not metered or measure
It just flows to power believers according to the measure of their capacity

We use power in the house according to what we have i.e. capacity we can handle.

Did Jesus recharge the Holy Spirit?
Your numbers 1, 2 and 3 are off the mark.
When your brother started with his snide remark, it didn't cross your mind to check and rein him in, hmm?
Respected isn't demanded, it is earned.

The root of information and truth is bitter but when it's fruit is eaten, it's sweet
My last 2 cents on this thread.

MuttleyLaff:
The root of information and truth is bitter but it's fruit is eaten, it's sweet
My last 2 cents on this thread.

Two cents is a gross exaggeration of their worth. Not even in a hyper inflationary economy like Zim would they ever be two cents
The Holy Spirit is an IT?
What is it?

vooks:

Two cents is a gross exaggeration of their worth. Not even in a hyper inflationary economy like Zim would they ever be two cents
The Holy Spirit is an IT?
What is it?

It is the enabling power or force that flows between God the Father and God the Son, shared between them and other worthy or privileged believers

MuttleyLaff, vooks, superior1, you all have made great points and we understand quite well what we didn't before. Not please let's not derail this trend and move on. Lot of us are silently on this thrend learning so please let's keep on with the edification and not focus on challenging each other knowledge about the Holy Spirit. We not ALL KNOWING, only God is. God bless

MuttleyLaff:

It is the enabling power or force

The 'enabling power' can speak, be grieved,be blasphemed and is most certainly referred with personal pronoun HE.
John 14:16-17 (KJV)
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

What was that thing you said about information?

JMG1:
MuttleyLaff, vooks, superior1, you all have made great points and we understand quite well what we didn't before. Not please let's not derail this trend and move on. Lot of us are silently on this thrend learning so please let's keep on with the edification and not focus on challenging each other knowledge about the Holy Spirit. We not ALL KNOWING, only God is. God bless

vooks and I go way back, you can see the respect and understanding we accrue each other in our posts
and we don't take anything personal or make snide remarks to each other.

Now, so far this thread hasn't been derailed, as it still touched and made some clarifications on one of the thread title's subject.

If you think this has anything to do with challenging, then you have a lot more to learn.
You are trying to deny others from picking up one or two things from what emanates from the discussion with this muzzling attitude.
My last post on the thread.

vooks:

The 'enabling power' can speak, be grieved,be blasphemed and is most certainly referred with personal pronoun HE.

What was that thing you said about information?

vooks free me jor. Leave me alone.
I've had enough say on this thread and am done on the thread. Thanks