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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals: Winner:: Unilorin: by luxanne(f): 5:30pm On Mar 28, 2016
Abuklaw:
I think unilorin's other representative is also online. Can't we go ahead with our own duo or rather post our own argument?

I lost the phone that house my MTN sim to theft, so couldn't get any text.

Whatever Team Unilorin says...

@Neyoor, are you OK with this new development?
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals: Winner:: Unilorin: by Nobody: 5:32pm On Mar 28, 2016
Catalyst4real:

Looks like am debating against two different people
The first part of your essay, you made it look like facilities are indispensable to the production of graduates.

And now you're saying the production of quintessential graduate is independent of facilities but willingness to develop one's self.

You debate lacks cohesion sir

No sir, you are getting all wrong. In debates we compare and contrast. In more developed countries their institutions have adequate and up-to-date facilities that can make a quintessential graduate.


But, even with this facilities personal drive plays a major role in producing a quintessential graduate. Thank you.

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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals: Winner:: Unilorin: by Tourshaw: 5:32pm On Mar 28, 2016
Abuklaw:
I think unilorin's other representative is also online. Can't we go ahead with our own duo or rather post our own argument?

I lost the phone that house my MTN sim to theft, so couldn't get any text.


bleeped up!!! I didn't know you will be here for it. My battery is just 2% now and nowhere to charge. Pained me o.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals: Winner:: Unilorin: by Abuklaw(m): 5:34pm On Mar 28, 2016
HerexG:


Most of us knows our educational system is presently not in the state we all can be proud of, so as an intellectual kindly make suggestion to our government and our educational heads that would take our educational system to that expected heights we all can be proud of as Nigerians
The major problem of Nigeria Education is underfunding. Why should a country aiming to be among the developed countries allocated less fund for education while transportation got more. Isn't it the educational system that will find lasting solution to the problem of transporting through researches and technological innovation? Our schools will start functioning when they receive adequate funding and recognition from the Government.

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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals: Winner:: Unilorin: by HerexG(m): 5:35pm On Mar 28, 2016
Neyoor:
QUINTESSENTIAL NIGERIAN GRADUATE- A PRODUCT OF SELF DEVELOPMENT OR THE INSTITUTION

As far as quintessential represents the most perfect or typical example of a quality then such features cannot be farfetched from a typical Nigerian graduate, who even with the poor Nigerian education scheme carves a triumphant and successful niche for himself, through series of self-conviction and self-discipline.

Every act of ingratitude is a treason to humanity, I remain magnanimous to the moderators, the judges, my fellow competitor, the audience and everyone that have made this intellectual discourse to come into manifestation today. I remain Oyedei Oyeniyi, a representative of the better by far University of Ilorin. I want to seize this rare occasion to inexorably support the stance of Self-Development in today’s subject of discourse, “Quintessential Nigerian Graduate- A product of Self-Development or The Institution”.

To say that quintessential graduate is a product of self-development is not argument neither a debate nor a polemic but a veracious fact that has been verified and justified through various visible means. However, without further ado let me succinctly buttress my assertion with these concrete points of mine:

Intrinsically, Nigerian educational institution is in a state of jeopardy, sick and feeble, hence cannot produce a viable graduate that would be quintessential in nature because once the head is faulty then the whole body would feel the torment. To say that the most perfect Nigerian graduate is a product of this debilitated educational institution is a fallacious argument with no iota of truth. You will agree with me that you can only become a product of what is instilled or sowed in you but the Nigerian institution of nowadays have nothing substantial to offer, hence the need why some Nigerian graduate resorted into self-development to nurture the creativity and the talent they have in them and that is why they can be regarded to as quintessential Nigerians today. For instance, Funke Akindele, Japhet Omojuwa, Femi Adebayo, Babatunde Raji Fashola and some notable Nigerians are all doing excellently well in the path they chart for themselves after neglecting the courses they studied from the blunt Nigerian educational institution. The institution can never take credit for the quintessential Nigerian graduates, people like Seun Osewa, the CEO of Nairaland has proved the institution wrong by dropping out of the institution to pursue his programming dream and here we are today having the opportunity of debating on this platform built by his creativity and personal development.

To continue in making myself categorically clear just as a crystal is, I will further say that the institution can never be responsible in producing a quintessential graduate, just because the curriculum adopted in this institutions are vague and void. The curriculum is designed in such a way that students are stressed and bombarded with courses that are irrelevant to their programme of study, a singular reason why Nigerians always excel and make a difference whenever they have any slight opportunity to study abroad. Nigerians are doing excellently well in the diaspora because of the transparent and efficient curriculum available in those countries.

Thirdly, without mincing words, I will re-emphasize that quintessential Nigerian graduates are product of self-development and not the institution because the institution lacks human and physical facilities that can produce upright and viable graduates. In essence, most of the facilitators in these institutions are devoid of current knowledge and developments surrounding their fields. They always adopt out-dated mode of teaching to impart knowledge in their students. As if that is not enough, Nigerian educational Institutions still lack facilities to equip the students with adequate and necessary practical knowledge that can make them to be quintessential in nature and that is why Nigerian graduates are always subject to series of training before they can resume work whenever they are fortunate to be employed, even if they graduate with first class. The major reason why countries like Japan, China and U.S.A are experiencing technological breakthrough is because their schools are equipped with necessary facilities, which is giving rise to quintessential graduate. Ufot Ekong, recently emerged the best all round graduating student in Tokai University, Tokyo, when he got accessed to adequate facilities to aid his learning. Ufot made an electric car that goes as fast as 128 kilometres per hour. To face the reality, how many Nigerian lecturers can build a car? They hardly have the knowledge and they are not in any way open to the facilities, hence they can’t produce a graduate that can do such.

Conclusively, I guess I have convincingly exposed to you the pitiable and penurious state of Nigerian educational institution, hence the reason why they can never take the glory for producing classic and quintessential graduate. To be candid, objective and factual, you won’t but agree with me that quintessential is born out of passion, dedication, focus, perseverance and determination to achieve a particular goal and to actualize ones dream. You can become brilliant and overrated above your pairs with the knowledge acquired in the institution but you can realize and actualize your dream, your talent, excel and become quintessential on your path through self-development. It is impossible for your hand to be amputated without your knowledge, so it is impossible for you to attain the status of quintessential without self-discovery and self-development

I will leave by saying that “I will leave by saying that “If you want to attain the ultimate goal of being quintessential, though you need to go to school but your distinctive personal development will to a reasonable extent go a long way to single out your standardized quantum of prowess."



References


Nigerian graduate emerges best student in 50 years in Japan University, builds car. "africanspotlight.com/2015/05/19/nigerian-graduate-emerges-best-student-in-50-years-in-japan-university-builds-car-photos/"


The News chronicle, May, 2014 “Nigerin Students Emerge Best Overseas”


T.I.N Magazine, July, 2015 “Nairaland Owner SEUN OSEWA Full Biography, Life And Net worth”


Cornel, January, 2015 “Nigerian Graduates and Why they are Unemployed and Unemployable”

Well done Neyor you never ceases to amuse me with your detailed and informative arguments, your write up today is a form of a wake up call to those in charge of our educational system . Score sent

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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals: Winner:: Unilorin: by Nobody: 5:36pm On Mar 28, 2016
luxanne:


Whatever Team Unilorin says...

@Neyoor, are you OK with this new development?

No, I don't think there's need for that any more.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals: Winner:: Unilorin: by luxanne(f): 5:36pm On Mar 28, 2016
Tourshaw:



bleeped up!!! I didn't know you will be here for it. My battery is just 2% now and nowhere to charge. Pained me o.

I thought it was Graciouslolo for this round?
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals: Winner:: Unilorin: by Abuklaw(m): 5:37pm On Mar 28, 2016
luxanne:


I thought it was Graciouslolo for this round?
Thanks for this observation.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals: Winner:: Unilorin: by Nobody: 5:38pm On Mar 28, 2016
Please, the ABU 2nd participants should stay clear off this thread. His assertions can be registered on the other thread.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals: Winner:: Unilorin: by luxanne(f): 5:38pm On Mar 28, 2016
Neyoor:


No, I don't think there's need for that any more.

It's alright then.

Abuklaw, you have your answer.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals: Winner:: Unilorin: by HerexG(m): 5:40pm On Mar 28, 2016
Abuklaw:
The major problem of Nigeria Education is underfunding. Why should a country aiming to be among the developed countries allocated less fund for education while transportation got more. Isn't it the educational system that will find lasting solution to the problem of transporting through researches and technological innovation? Our schools will start functioning when they receive adequate funding and recognition from the Government.

Really? Did I hear you say under funding? I What happens to the huge funds they receive from students in the name of Post UTME exams? I think that enough if used resourcefully could go along way to reform our schools

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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals: Winner:: Unilorin: by Catalyst4real: 5:40pm On Mar 28, 2016
HerexG:


Most of us knows our educational system is presently not in the state we all can be proud of, so as an intellectual kindly make suggestion to our government and our educational heads that would take our educational system to that expected heights we all can be proud of as Nigerians
Thanks for the opportunity sir

For progress to be made there must be willingness, as the first propellant

For a country that's 55 year old, our educational system is just "okay" but it can be better.

Just as there are too many loopholes, so are there solutions.

Pertaining Admission

>Admission based on catchment area is silly and should be dropped, the less qualified are admitted, because they are favoured by region, while the more qualified candidates are sidelined.

Pertaining Educational goal

> Some students don't do well in school, not because they are not intelligent, but because they don't even know where they will work after graduating.

The zeal fades, The passion withers and the fuel burns out; There is no goal worth fighting for, due to the very issue of unemployment.

Facilities

Even when they are available they are either substandard or unevenly distributed

Education is a delicate part of every nation and should not be taken lightly.

The present administration has to make it a priority to dive into the educational system and gyrate it to apical heights, for that is where the future of Nigeria lies.

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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals: Winner:: Unilorin: by Tourshaw: 5:41pm On Mar 28, 2016
luxanne:


I thought it was Graciouslolo for this round?

Even Neyoor is out of battery too since, graciousolo is just continuing the essay.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals: Winner:: Unilorin: by Abuklaw(m): 5:41pm On Mar 28, 2016
Neyoor:


No, I don't think there's need for that any more.
There is need for it. Your colleague won't want an effort in futility like I am also feeling now.

Just grant the opportunity to contribute not showcase.

Kudos to my dogged colleague, catalyst4real. I am really sorry for letting you down.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals: Winner:: Unilorin: by Nobody: 5:42pm On Mar 28, 2016
Please, don't disrupt this process. We waited for him for many hours before we agreed for this duo.

We didn't agree for this until catalyst4real his mate started accusing us of being afraid or somewhat. Oautemitayo can bear me witness.

Let just finish it just as we started.

Thanks

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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals: Winner:: Unilorin: by luxanne(f): 5:42pm On Mar 28, 2016
Thanks HerexG for your analysis smiley

Alright, let us now post our concluding statement.

Catalyst4real, Neyoor
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals: Winner:: Unilorin: by Abuklaw(m): 5:44pm On Mar 28, 2016
Neyoor:
Please, the ABU 2nd participants should stay clear off this thread. His assertions can be registered on the other thread.
You have actually confirmed my fear now; it seems you guys want to play politics.

Tourshaw:
Even Neyoor is out of battery too since, graciousolo is just continuing the essay.
Organizers, please take note of the quoted statement. Is it allowed?

cc:luxanne, fynestboi and others
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals: Winner:: Unilorin: by Mordecai(m): 5:45pm On Mar 28, 2016
Catalyst4real, you wrote and I quote:

All the graduate had to do was listen, learn and pass exams.

It doesn't go beyond that, The institution already has everything in place, and all the wards have to do to attain excellence is to learn and prove they have learned by passing the examinations.


Do they all pass the examinations? When they do, do they all get the same grades? Do they all assimilate whatever the institution has to offer in the same way? Do the graduates all turn out the same?

If they do not, what factor makes the difference in what kind of graduates they become?

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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals: Winner:: Unilorin: by HerexG(m): 5:47pm On Mar 28, 2016
Neyoor:
Please, the ABU 2nd participants should stay clear off this thread. His assertions can be registered on the other thread.

Neyor can you make a suggestion on how we can bring out the best and make proper use of the abilities in the geniuses found in our educational institutions
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals: Winner:: Unilorin: by Nobody: 5:48pm On Mar 28, 2016
On a final note.

One of my mentor once said, “I have nothing against education. But at times, education gives people false confidence. It makes people relax, trusting in the power of their certificates rather than in working hard.”

Where you are doesn't define you, but your decisions do. If the institution is to take the blame or glory for its students, then all graduates should have equal grades. What the institutes do is to give equal platform for every student, what undergraduates do with this platform is left to them and can not be faulted on their institutions.

Quintessential graduate is the architect of his success and not the institution.

Thanks!

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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals: Winner:: Unilorin: by HerexG(m): 5:51pm On Mar 28, 2016
[quote author=luxanne post=44193679]Thanks HerexG for your analysis smiley

You are welcome ma'am
smiley

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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals: Winner:: Unilorin: by Nobody: 5:52pm On Mar 28, 2016
Mordecai:
Neyoor, you wrote and I quote:
All the graduate had to do was listen, learn and pass exams.
It doesn't go beyond that, The institution already has everything in place, and all the wards have to do to attain excellence is to learn and prove they have learned by passing the examinations.

Do they all pass the examinations? When they do, do they all get the same grades? Do they all assimilate whatever the institution has to offer in the same way? Do the graduates all turn out the same?
If they do not, what factor makes the difference in what kind of graduates they become?


This is actually an excerpt from what my opponent wrote and not mine.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals: Winner:: Unilorin: by Catalyst4real: 5:53pm On Mar 28, 2016
Abuklaw, it's too late
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals: Winner:: Unilorin: by Abuklaw(m): 5:53pm On Mar 28, 2016
luxanne:


It's alright then.

Abuklaw, you have your answer.
But that is not neyoor replying you.

Tourshaw:
Even Neyoor is out of battery too since, graciousolo is just continuing the essay.
Please consider it as a matter of urgency. I am not saying this to scuttle or undermine the process so far, but it is a sincere observation.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals: Winner:: Unilorin: by Abuklaw(m): 5:58pm On Mar 28, 2016
Catalyst4real:
Abuklaw, it's too late
It is not if the organisers consider. But I think Unilorin already has something going on behind the scene which can't make neyoor and graciousolo to be online at the same time because neyoor is graciousolo and graciousolo is neyoor for now.

Tourshaw:
Even Neyoor is out of battery too since, graciousolo is just continuing the essay.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals: Winner:: Unilorin: by luxanne(f): 5:59pm On Mar 28, 2016
@Abuklaw.

I plead you stop posting on here and let this debate go on.

Team Unilorin has the right to consent to your request or not to given their patience earlier and if they have chosen not to consent, let us respect their decision please.

Thank you.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals: Winner:: Unilorin: by Catalyst4real: 5:59pm On Mar 28, 2016
Mordecai:
Catalyst4real, you wrote and I quote:

All the graduate had to do was listen, learn and pass exams.

It doesn't go beyond that, The institution already has everything in place, and all the wards have to do to attain excellence is to learn and prove they have learned by passing the examinations.


Do they all pass the examinations? When they do, do they all get the same grades? Do they all assimilate whatever the institution has to offer in the same way? Do the graduates all turn out the same?

If they do not, what factor makes the difference in what kind of graduates they become?
neyoor didn't state that, I did.

As indicated in my essay, I tagged it as "Role of the Graduate"
A student who fails to evade with good grade is a student who hasn't fulfilled his primary role as a student.

Should a student be applauded, glorified and credited for fulfilling his role? And the institution vituperated and criticised for graduating such a student? How fair is that?
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals: Winner:: Unilorin: by knackz(m): 6:01pm On Mar 28, 2016
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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals: Winner:: Unilorin: by luxanne(f): 6:01pm On Mar 28, 2016
Mordecai:
Catalyst4real, you wrote and I quote:

All the graduate had to do was listen, learn and pass exams.

It doesn't go beyond that, The institution already has everything in place, and all the wards have to do to attain excellence is to learn and prove they have learned by passing the examinations.


Do they all pass the examinations? When they do, do they all get the same grades? Do they all assimilate whatever the institution has to offer in the same way? Do the graduates all turn out the same?

If they do not, what factor makes the difference in what kind of graduates they become?

A question for you Catalyst4real.

Your concluding statement should be posted afterwards.

Thank you.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals: Winner:: Unilorin: by Catalyst4real: 6:04pm On Mar 28, 2016
To cap it up

Nigeria is a great nation, blessed, admonished and lifted.
And most times we expect too much from this developing country, as much as we want growth.

We shouldn't be swift to feign a blind eye to what our institutions are doing on a daily basis to ensure a sure future filled with competent graduates.

It has been an experience and irrespective of the results, I will forever cherish this platform

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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals: Winner:: Unilorin: by Tourshaw: 6:04pm On Mar 28, 2016
Abuklaw:
There is need for it. Your colleague won't want an effort in futility like I am also feeling now.

Just grant the opportunity to contribute not showcase.

Kudos to my dogged colleague, catalyst4real. I am really sorry for letting you down.


So you think you let down only your fellow Abuite right? You need to be told how we, Team Unilorin waited patiently for you. We sacrificed our time. You owed catalyst appreciation and owed us apologies not those disappointing comments I have been seen from you.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals: Winner:: Unilorin: by Catalyst4real: 6:05pm On Mar 28, 2016
luxanne:

A question for you Catalyst4real.
Your concluding statement should be posted afterwards.
Thank you.
Answered it already

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