africaken254:
the aftermath of an air strike against an alshabaab convoy

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtNjDx2YXRI

I have seen that video a while ago and I cant explain. That loaded convoy looks like it was headed to the Kenyan border(one of those who landed in the chopper is dressed like a kenya police constable) And I dont think that story was ever reported in the media.

Is this one of those incidences they later tell us, 'we have stopped many threats, some of which you dont know. ..."

denisfidha:
I have seen that video a while ago and I cant explain. That loaded convoy looks like it was headed to the Kenyan border(one of those who landed in the chopper is dressed like a kenya police constable) And I dont think that story was ever reported in the media.

Is this one of those incidences they later tell us, 'we have stopped many threats, some of which you dont know. ..."

our security apparatus should use such success to counter alshabaab propaganda,we have even manned spy plane to capture our successes and blows we are inflicting on alshabaab. those old higher echelons dont know how to fight a propaganda war against alshabaab

rugged7:
OGA HENRY, OGA BIDEXII, Oga iblawi, oga realnas, oga lionel4power AND ALL OTHER OGAS AT THE TOP

Personally i think we shouldn't turn this thread into a political thread.

I promise you it will derail very fast.

Thatz probably one of the reasons Oga beegeagle left his blog.

I do not like jonathan nor do i like buhari

I dislike PDP as much as i dislike APC; i think they are both filled with the same crooks

However, i STAND with Oga Henry on this one.

Too much smoke and mirrors in this so called anti-corruption war

People bandying about billions of dollars found in soak away pits, in wardrobes, in banks, under beds, in girlfriends accounts etc

Yet we still have not seen any diligent prosecution or legal retrieval of ANY funds!!

WE MUST FOLLOW THE RULE OF LAW

Anybody caught with stolen funds, i'm all for a bullet in the head.

BUT....WE MUST FOLLOW THE RULE OF LAW. FULLSTOP

abeg bros let just allow the matter to die.
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even observing my initial post clearly you'll see that its a simple apolitical statement with no side intention to rubbish anyone or party.
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my subsequent post was to justify it.
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me I don't dabble into politics or start taking sides with any political party even here on nairaland. many people will attest to that.
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my grievance is that how come oga henry quickly tagged my post as political (which it isnt by the way) and attacked it.
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the object of the post was to focus on the t 129 attack and how Nigeria lost out in acquiring it.

oga @henry240 abeg we all needs to chill Nigeria is already tense as it is, people are not seeing the dividends of their vote.

Two locally manufactured Nigerian Navy Epenal Gunboats.


The Nigerian Navy operates more than 300 units of this Gun-Boat type across the creeks of the Niger-delta. It comes with 2 2500 HP yamaha engines, provides protection against 7.62mm rounds and is armed with 2 12.7mm HMGs.

Nigerian navy

Nigerian Army Rangers



Africaken254, what country are these AK-74 rifles from, any ideas?


They look like they come from Hungary or Bulgaria (Arsenal co), can you confirm?

OFF TOPIC



Only God knows when a common 40 meters vessel (NNS ANDONI II) would be launched. A vessel which shouldn't ordinarily take more than 6 months to build.


Here's an RWS from Rafael the Singaporeans are mounting on their 32 meters vessels. Very cool RWS from Israel.

Henry240:
OFF TOPIC



Only God knows when a common 40 meters vessel (NNS ANDONI II) would be launched. A vessel which shouldn't ordinarily take more than 6 months to build.


Here's an RWS from Rafael the Singaporeans are mounting on their 32 meters vessels. Very cool RWS from Israel.

even our nns unity its a year over due.


wot annoy most is d silence

africaken254:


can someone tell me the breed of the dog being handed the cameroon B.I.R dog handler ?

Belgian Malinois

africaken254:
[/b][b]ok,whats the breed of the dog with cameroonian dog handler ?

Belgian Malinois

giles14:
even our nns unity its a year over due.

wot annoy most is d silence

That one has entered "voice mail".

jln115:

Belgian Malinois

correct

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xIra4xAkb8

Its also mostly widely incorporated israel defence force military working dog

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IPb64jyPac

Fynline:
I can see the scorpion, samaritan and the Vickers

The refurbished light and heavy tanks cum the uniformity (not seen this level of uniformity in a long time) is very commendable

who feels like slapping the camera man and the reporter




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFghjVgLgsM

aren't those conventional maneuvers tactics, while the kind of warfare your facing is asymmetrical !

africaken254:
correct

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xIra4xAkb8

Its also mostly widely incorporated israel defence force military working dog

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IPb64jyPac

They make better working dogs in harsher climates than their German counterparts due to their shorter coat and better adaptability!

They are very popular Police and Military Dogs here in South Africa, even more so than the German Sheppard, yet the majority of people can't tell the difference between the 2.

Bruv,

In a 50 seconds clip, you have seen what is "symmetrical" and what is "asymmetrical" warfare

Are you for real??

Or do you just like seeing your words in print??

And even if it is a symmetric manouevre, what exactly is wrong with it??

The fact that Nigeria is fighting asymmetric war with boko haram means we should not prepare for other engagements which may be symmetric in nature?

Innit?

Nigeria has gone to war with Chad and Cameroon before

I don't see any reason why it can't happen again.

Boko haram or no boko haram

africaken254:
aren't those conventional maneuvers tactics, while the kind of warfare your facing is asymmetrical !

africaken254:
aren't those conventional maneuvers tactics, while the kind of warfare your facing is asymmetrical !

Is the army supposed to abandon conventional tactics because it currently faces an asymmetrical threat?


-Nigeria fought a war with Chad in 1985, we pushed them back into Chad and only a few kilometers from the capital N'Jamena.


- We also occupied Bakassi for 30 years, until the UN judgment gave the territory to Cameroun.

Nigeria COIN #CTCOIN

Henry240:


Is the army supposed to abandon conventional tactics because it currently faces an asymmetrical threat?


-Nigeria fought a war with Chad in 1985, we pushed them back into Chad and only a few kilometers from the capital N'Jamena.


- We also occupied Bakassi for 30 years, until the UN judgment gave the territory to Cameroun.

i thought i head the reporter say this exercises were perform to improve the troops efficiency before they are deployed to the main theater in the on going operation Lafiya Dole

rugged7:
Bruv,

In a 50 seconds clip, you have seen what is "symmetrical" and what is "asymmetrical" warfare

Are you for real??

Or do you just like seeing your words in print??

And even if it is a symmetric manouevre, what exactly is wrong with it??

The fact that Nigeria is fighting asymmetric war with boko haram means we should not prepare for other engagements which may be symmetric in nature?

Innit?

Nigeria has gone to war with Chad and Cameroon before

I don't see any reason why it can't happen again.

Boko haram or no boko haram

they are performing tank maneuvers as if your expecting tank on tank engagements ,i clearly heard the reporter say they are sharpening their skills for the on going operation Lafiya Dole

africaken254:
aren't those conventional maneuvers tactics, while the kind of warfare your facing is asymmetrical !

Here we go again.

Conventional maneuvers are applicable in unconventional warfare.

4 Principles of COIN:
- TAKE
- CLEAR
- HOLD
- BUILD

Conventional maneuvers with heavy armor are applicable in: TAKE and CLEAR

Its only "HOLD" which requires more irregular light infantry and less armor and arty because at this stage you are transitioning from a military action to a policing action.

By the time you get to "BUILD" it should entirely be a police operation.

africaken254:
i thought i head the reporter say this exercises were perform to improve the troops efficiency before they are deployed to the main theater in the on going operation Lafiya Dole

Yes

And guess what, you need to practice combined arms maneuvers when you are deploying combined-arms formations.

africaken254:
they are performing tank maneuvers as if your expecting tank on tank engagements ,i clearly heard the reporter say they are sharpening their skills for the on going operation Lafiya Dole

They are performing tank maneuvers like they are expecting combat.

We have all seen how the Nigerians sweep and clear - same thing we did in Angola: Fighting Columns. Their usually have 2 to 3 tanks, 4 to 5 MRAP's and many attached land-cruisers (instead of IFVs ).

You need to practice maneuvers so that your collums know how to respond to various combat scenarios. One such scenario will definitely be assaulting a fixed enemy position.

Nigerian Navy

Nigerian Navy at Sea Maneuvers

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Patchesagain:


Here we go again.

Conventional maneuvers are applicable in unconventional warfare.

4 Principles of COIN:
- TAKE
- CLEAR
- HOLD
- BUILD

Conventional maneuvers with heavy armor are applicable in: TAKE and CLEAR

Its only "HOLD" which requires more irregular light infantry and less armor and arty because at this stage you are transitioning from a military action to a policing action.

By the time you get to "BUILD" it should entirely be a police operation.

so you need heavy armour for the Boko haram armed with RPG-7 !,tanks and IFV with tracks in warfare where swiftness is part of tactical advantage .it seems you have never heard of the " toyota war"

upko1:
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Was this among the ones delivered to the Army aviation.....@Henry240 what happened to the two white MI-17 Dasuki claimed he purchased, any idea

jteku:


Henry what happened to the two white MI-17 Dasuki claimed he purchased, any idea

I'm sure they are still in the battle theater. They mainly support operations in Adamawa state. That's also there main base.

africaken254:

so you need heavy armour for the Boko haram armed with RPG-7 !,tanks and IFV with tracks in warfare where swiftness is part of tactical advantage .it seems you have never heard of the " toyota war"

Apples and Oranges, you cannot compare the two wars.

Armor is just one element of forces deployed, from the images posted here you can see that the Nigerians have the full spectrum of forces deployed, from ultra-light motorbike mounted men, to men in toyotas to heavy armor.

AMISOM has employed armor to great effect in Somalia and the presence of heavy armor in the ranks of the Syrian pro-govt militia is the only thing keeping those forces from being over-whelmed.

The simple fact of the matter is that part of COIN is the clearing and seizing of land. And for this role speed is irrelevant.

Its only once the question of holding the land comes up that you need to scale your mobiles forces down to lighter and more mobile units. But even then, you will still need heavy armor for area-denial and over-watch in defence of strategic locations - such as check-points, towns, bases etc.

You also fail to take into account how they may be using them. Its not unlikely that they have heavy formations pushing from one direction and light forces deploying as stopper groups behind.

TL;DR: Stop drawing conclusions from 30sec of footage.
STL;SDR: Tanks are allways relevant

@henry240 @bidexii We are seeing less of the Igirigi, any idea why?

Patchesagain:


Apples and Oranges, you cannot compare the two wars.

Armor is just one element of forces deployed, from the images posted here you can see that the Nigerians have the full spectrum of forces deployed, from ultra-light motorbike mounted men, to men in toyotas to heavy armor.

AMISOM has employed armor to great effect in Somalia and the presence of heavy armor in the ranks of the Syrian pro-govt militia is the only thing keeping those forces from being over-whelmed.

The simple fact of the matter is that part of COIN is the clearing and seizing of land. And for this role speed is irrelevant.

Its only once the question of holding the land comes up that you need to scale your mobiles forces down to lighter and more mobile units. But even then, you will still need heavy armor for area-denial and over-watch in defence of strategic locations - such as check-points, towns, bases etc.

You also fail to take into account how they may be using them. Its not unlikely that they have heavy formations pushing from one direction and light forces deploying as stopper groups behind.

TL;DR: Stop drawing conclusions from 30sec of footage.
STL;SDR: Tanks are allways relevant

how many time have we seen captured tanks in syria and rarely technical pickup's,insurgents are not stupid they will let you TAKE,CLEAR,HOLD,BUILD .then they will isolate you by targeting you patrols,supply line(IED's,ambushes,sniping e.t.c) and then when they know your weak overran your newly established base .after overrunning you,they will have plenty of 120/125mm tank rounds to use as road side bombs

when you get reports of boko haram having attacked a village are you going to rush there ,with your tanks as you said speed is irrelevant in COIN !

horlams:

@henry240 @bidexii We are seeing less of the Igirigi, any idea why?

BH his weakened, they av resulted into changing tactics and laying ambush like what happened last Monday at kareto . They av also resulted in placing I.E.D on controlled area/districts. And these areas being cleared already.

So in such unprecedented normal patrol or I.E.D miss-app you need mote powerful APC/MRAP to do the job. And that's what the REVA APC MRAPS are the in the frontlines and they av taking casualties especially as a result of I.E.D. And am not saying these light APC :i.e Igirigi are being totally withdrawed.