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| My Response To Hard Mirror Threads by Joagbaje(m): 6:22pm On May 27, 2016 |
2 2 Timothy 2:13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself. Even if a thousand epistles are written against God it doesn't change him from being God. Most atheist actually believe in Gods existence but just choose to deny him out of grievance or whatever reason. I just returned from a trip to isreal and it's wonderful that biblical historical facts were preserved . Every christian should visit the place I tried to follow your thread to really get to know what tool the enemy use to get at you . I tried also to discuss with you but you weren't responding . Whatever the reason why you were offended against God. Is not enough to take steps that could affect the faith of young ones . I still believe in you that whatever the distraction is ,you will come out of it and come back to your first love . I shouldn't have bothered about the write up . Because a backslided. Leader cannot be redeemed again . As the bible declared .. Hebrews 6:4-6 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. Why your matter God my attention was the fact that you talked about having performed miracles and operating in the gifts of the spirit like prophecy Etc. Which you acknowledged were real . It's contradictory if you claimed they were real and you deny them again. Some people deny God by ignorance ,some others may deny God by fear. I still do believe that you still have your salvation in you . And whatever offended you , if you have questions that brought doubts to your heart you could have just asked the questions than pouring venom against Gods word. Miracles are real. Salvation is real . Heaven is real ,he'll is real . God is real . Judgement day is real . The miracles and gift of prophecies that manifested through you were real. What you are experiencing is an attack of the enemy because the call of God is upon you. Think of the bible . It's prophecies by Daniel . The fulfillment . Isreal becoming a nation again . After its named had been wiped off the world map. A nation was born in a day according to scriptures . The prediction of the rise of the empires . Meds ,Persian ,Greek (Alexander the great ) Roman . They all came to pass . The birth of christ was fortold . Exact date was given of when christ would come and when he will be killed in the book of Daniel . Doubts may come to us once in a while but they come to cause us to be strengthened . I pray for you and for others who's faith may experience attacks of the enemy . That you be strengthened with might by the spirit of God in your inner man. 5 Likes |
| Re: My Response To Hard Mirror Threads by AlfaSeltzer(m): 8:17pm On May 27, 2016 |
HardMirror, your fate is now uncertain and only you can save yourself. The godly are disturbed and they want their revenge. They are now enticing you to crawl back to their fold but you know what awaits you if you go back. Their god is a self-confessed anger-ridden god who is so wicked as to visit vengeance upon future generations. Imagine what he would do to you if can get his hands back on you right now! Come to Satan today for everlasting wisdom on how to avoid the pitfalls the godly are laying on your path. 2 Likes |
| Re: My Response To Hard Mirror Threads by Nobody: 9:12pm On May 27, 2016 |
^^^^ The two people above has been smoking Weeeeed........  2 Likes |
| Re: My Response To Hard Mirror Threads by sonofthunder: 10:00pm On May 27, 2016 |
his efforts to distort people from the faith is a very conscious one. his mission and vision happens to be very clear and concise. but... ... Men of Israel, take care in regard to what you propose to do concerning these men. 36For before our time there arose Theudas, asserting himself to be a person of importance, with whom a number of men allied themselves, about 400; but he was killed and all who had listened to and adhered to him were scattered and brought to nothing. 37And after this one rose up Judas the Galilean, [who led an uprising] during the time of the census, and drew away a popular following after him; he also perished and all his adherents were scattered. 38Now in the present case let me say to you, stand off (withdraw) from these men and let them alone. For if this doctrine or purpose or undertaking or movement is of human origin, it will fail (be overthrown and come to nothing); 39But if it is of God, you will not be able to stop or overthrow or destroy them; you might even be found fighting against God! |
| Re: My Response To Hard Mirror Threads by Joagbaje(m): 10:40pm On May 27, 2016 |
It's the enemy's work. And scripture has declared he can never prevail against the church. |
| Re: My Response To Hard Mirror Threads by frank317: 11:06pm On May 27, 2016 |
Joagbaje: This is where your delusion starts. Honest I am surprised this is coming from an established pastor. This is just a proof that everything you preach to people is just what your head makes up.if you can say this, you must be an ordained deceiver... get thee behind me Satan...oops, Satan does not exist 8 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: My Response To Hard Mirror Threads by Joagbaje(m): 11:08pm On May 27, 2016 |
Don't just insult and go . Explain yourself 3 Likes |
| Re: My Response To Hard Mirror Threads by frank317: 12:16am On May 28, 2016 |
Joagbaje:Sorry if I sounded insultive.... But how can u, an ordained man of God, think most atheists actually believe in God but chose to deny him out grievance or personal reason. Is this out of holy spirit inspiration or the normal Christian make believe stories. that's not why I am an atheist. It's false man... should I be correcting u? A man of God? Thats questionable. 1 Like |
| Re: My Response To Hard Mirror Threads by Gombs(m): 8:54am On May 28, 2016 |
I John 2:19 King James Bible They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. I have tried to understand what was behind the mind of John when he wrote the above words, and not until recently, I understood. I have read to a bearable extent the tales by Hardmirror, and I could relate with them for they are nothing but the attack of the devil. The devil never really changed his tactics, he' s been in the business of questioning all God has said or done for us. He questioned Jesus after God told all creation to listen to Him, He questioned God's instruction to Adam via Eve, even when Jesus healed Lazarus the bible told us the devil through some folks sought to re-kill lazarus, just to deny the fact that a miracle happened to the glory of God. When we became Christians we became a target constantly bombard by the devil, and the intensity grows as you walk in the Spirit doing the supernatural. It's recorded in the bible where miracles were wrought and some folks as today wanted to deny the miracle...It's been a hard trick of the devil even in today's church. Let me give another example of such, aside that of Lazarus. Peter and John just finished doing some miracles, and them religious/sceptic folks of the day (same as today's) didn't like it at all, infact they had to summon them. The man healed was not a child, bible said so, and these rulers really wanting to deny this miracle, but the healed man was standing right before them, so in verse 16 and 17, they said something remarkably amazing in Acts 4 “What are we going to do with these men?” they asked. “Everyone living in Jerusalem knows they have performed a notable sign, [size=18pt]and we cannot deny it. [/size] 17 But to stop this thing from spreading any further among the people, we must warn them to speak no longer to anyone in this name.” from he above, we see the devil hasn't stopped the same old trick of questioning miracles (he does it through his kids mostly), But why would they want to deny the miracle? Why did they want to stop the gospel from spreading further, seeing it just healed someone? From the above, I found out that this gospel has been severally tried to be wiped out by several rulers, kingdoms, empires etc...but they all came and passed away, but this gospel remained. I used to think God kept folks in different generation to preserve the gospel, they even called King James the defender of the Faith, but i found out GOD NEVER NEEDED ANYONE TO DEFEND THE GOSPEL. The gospel has its own life...it will and cannot be stopped. What made me not bother trying to reach further to Hardmirror was what the bible told me, after his brouhaha. He scoffed at the word of truth he claimed to have handled; in fact, he just fulfilled scriptures. Jude 1: 18-19 New Living Translation They told you that in the last times there would be scoffers whose purpose in life is to satisfy their ungodly desires. These people are the ones who are creating divisions among you. They follow their natural instincts because they do not have God's Spirit in them. Whae Hardmorror went through or experienced is not alien to other christians. I have had down times I questioned what i believed in. There were times I wanted to throw in the towel... But when i think of the word of truth I've handled, when i see the lives of those who this message has changed, when i get text messages of those who kept thanking me for leading them to Christ, when i think of the fellowship with he Spirit, and answered prayers... When I think of those who look up to me for inspiration in the faith (I teach foundation school, and all my student don't turn out ordinary, except they chose so)... I take solace by the Spirit in one of my favorite scripture 1 Corinthians 15:58 New International Version (NIV) 58 Therefore, my dear brothers and sisters, [size=14pt]stand firm[/size]. Let nothing move you. Always give yourselves [size=15pt]fully[/size] to the work of the Lord, because you know that your labor in the Lord is not in vain. Paul wrote, we are pressed on both sides, but never crushed, perplexed but never in despair, persecuted but not abandoned, stuck down but not destroyed. Dear Hardmirror, if you created those thread truly after saying you did all those for God, then i could only say may it not totally be true. I just hope there's still hope for you... Your ranting here does not stop God from being Great, neither does your denial of His existence prove His inexistence...but i tell most guys who do not want to be accountable and responsible for the morality, who suddenly claim they are atheists, and throw everything down to disprove God's existence is... "Every knee will bow and every tongue willl confess that Jesus is Lord". It's just a matter of time. *drops mic 5 Likes |
| Re: My Response To Hard Mirror Threads by Nobody: 12:18pm On May 28, 2016 |
Gombs:The time you spend trying to understand some ancient manuscripts, racking your brain around simple texts in order to develop different interpretations could be used to actually save someone really. We have been there bro. We've done all that. And you know what I mean. There is no spirit revealing shit. The human mind is naturally inclined to visualize patterns. It's nothing new. I bet you Hardmirror is still a better preacher. All you truly needed was to believe it is true. Even the Buddhist monks medidates and comes up with revelation. And some are giving credit to the prayers made to Buddha as the reason behind Leicester United's victory in the EPL. Think about it, just think. There is nothing supernatural about visions. 2 Likes |
| Re: My Response To Hard Mirror Threads by Gombs(m): 12:56pm On May 28, 2016 |
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| Re: My Response To Hard Mirror Threads by Joagbaje(m): 1:35pm On May 28, 2016 |
frank317: Yes It's a fact of life . God has his witness in every mans conscience . But having witness there must be a supreme being somewhere is different from having a relationship . . Some were raised without knowledge of a God. But others rebelled against the God they knew just to excuse themselves or to be absolved of guilt. Tai Sholarin prayed to God while in detention but he got angry that God didn't deliver him and declared there's no God. 2 Likes |
| Re: My Response To Hard Mirror Threads by Nobody: 3:05pm On May 28, 2016 |
Gombs:How convenient. |
| Re: My Response To Hard Mirror Threads by Gombs(m): 4:46pm On May 28, 2016 |
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| Re: My Response To Hard Mirror Threads by Nobody: 5:29pm On May 28, 2016 |
Gombs:Yeye person. |
| Re: My Response To Hard Mirror Threads by Brigance(m): 7:07pm On May 28, 2016 |
Joagbaje: The bolded is ludicrous. Tai Solarin was an atheist before he went to prison. 1 Like |
| Re: My Response To Hard Mirror Threads by frank317: 8:25pm On May 28, 2016 |
Joagbaje: Perhaps he for to write anything in my heart. I have no withness that there is a supreme being anywhere, that's why I doubt. Well, for u to think atheist believe God exist, u must be a fake pastor...your holy spirit really failed this time. Except u want to accept that it's just what u think 1 Like |
| Re: My Response To Hard Mirror Threads by taurus25(m): 8:42pm On May 28, 2016 |
frank317:its actually a part of their arrogant attitude.....well its not exactly shocking, because personally when i was religious my brain couldnt comprehend the fact that a person would call him/herself an atheist. So i dont really blame them 2 Likes |
| Re: My Response To Hard Mirror Threads by Joagbaje(m): 11:16pm On May 28, 2016 |
frank317: Thanks for the compliment at least you believe there a real pastor for there to be fake pastor your holy spirit really failed this time. If he failed only this time it means you believe he had been right other times too? You know there is God brother . Stop denying . The witness of God is in your spirit eitheryou accept it or not . Even nature reveals existence . It's only a fool that will believe otherwise . Psalms 14:1 1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. . You are not a fool . 2 Likes |
| Re: My Response To Hard Mirror Threads by Stevebamdex(m): 11:32pm On May 28, 2016 |
Joagbaje:Well,he is still a fool for failing to realised there is God. |
| Re: My Response To Hard Mirror Threads by frank317: 1:07am On May 29, 2016 |
Joagbaje: Lol... of course there is fake,i am writing to see the real though... that's why I am sceptical .
I am not a fool... again, the Bible is wrong. |
| Re: My Response To Hard Mirror Threads by Weah96: 1:32am On May 29, 2016 |
Joagbaje: What is God to you? Is this the same god who talked to Israeli refugees millennia ago or the God from which all things emerged? You are here quoting Bible which can only mean that your idea of God is a kind of being that gives messages to his tribal oracle. That god doesn't exist. 2 Likes |
| Re: My Response To Hard Mirror Threads by davien(m): 4:42am On May 29, 2016 |
joagbaje, hardmirror isn't the only deconverted preacher in nairaland,and he'll certainly not be the last... he's just a single part of an ongoing process that is happening all over the world,the escape of religious dogma for skepticism. Countless accounts of ex-preachers are dotted around the internet(here's one http://clergyproject.org/ ) Your god-beliefs have been rejected by many since its inception,instead of threatening and wailing all over the place, why not find out why too with a honest and unbiased mind to reveal the truth? 5 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: My Response To Hard Mirror Threads by Kay17: 8:02am On May 29, 2016 |
The Christian God is all powerful and the total arbiter of the entire existence. The book of Job further reveals the Devil lacked the authority to act independently. Therefore God implicitly allows evil. I think that's the point HardMirror is trying to make |
| Re: My Response To Hard Mirror Threads by Gombs(m): 10:49am On May 29, 2016 |
Kay17: synonyms: completely, absolutely, totally, wholeheartedly, utterly, unconditionally, unreservedly, without reservation, without reserve, without qualification, one hundred per cent; You're implicitly wrong! Thanks  |
| Re: My Response To Hard Mirror Threads by Kay17: 11:23am On May 29, 2016 |
Gombs: Synonyms of what? |
| Re: My Response To Hard Mirror Threads by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:39am On May 29, 2016 |
Kay17: You mean you dont get this ? |
| Re: My Response To Hard Mirror Threads by Kay17: 11:57am On May 29, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Are those synonyms for implicit?! |
| Re: My Response To Hard Mirror Threads by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:00pm On May 29, 2016 |
Kay17: His intentions are obvious . Dont get angry at me , do that at him |
| Re: My Response To Hard Mirror Threads by Gombs(m): 3:34pm On May 29, 2016 |
Kay17: KingEbukasBlog: Weird huh? Kay17: Ahhhhhh, finally KingEbukasBlog: Thanks buddy! let me take it from here...  Kay17, yeah...You're still implicitly wrong 1 Like |
| Re: My Response To Hard Mirror Threads by Joagbaje(m): 10:57pm On May 29, 2016 |
davien: he has been evadiing dialogue with me. so what is the truth 1 Like |
| Re: My Response To Hard Mirror Threads by braithwaite(m): 10:10am On May 30, 2016 |
Joagbaje: Stop saying that deep down inside, we really do believe in your deity. Belief in the kind of guy who can create an entire universe with the force of a few well-turned phrases is not the sort of secret that fits neatly into a back pocket, as it were. If we thought this fellow was real, we'd be the first to know. And people don't tend to keep that particular nugget of information to themselves. Ever notice that? And please stop quoting atheist if you can't face or prove yourself right without swaying and bringing out false fact 1 Like |
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