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Here Are 8 Engines You Should Avoid by AutosBay(m): 2:05pm On Jul 02, 2016
Chrysler 2.7 L V6

The small but powerful 2.7 L V6 commonly found in the 2004 and older Chrysler Intrepid, Concorde, LHS and Sebring/Stratus models is notorious for oil sludge formation.

Motor oil would collect and cook in the engine’s tight passages, forming sludge and constricting circulation. Eventually, the engine would seize due to oil starvation.

Then there’s the water pump that was incorporated inside the engine. The pump’s shaft seal had a reputation for failing at the 100,000-km threshold and barfing a large quantity of coolant into the crankcase. The resulting chocolate milk mixture is a sure sign of exorbitant bills to come.

Chrysler made some design changes in later engines, but anyone with this lump under their hood should monitor oil level frequently and perform oil changes religiously.

Audi/VW 1.8T Four Cylinder Turbo

The 1.8 L turbo four cylinder from Volkswagen was found in almost everything the carmaker sold at one time, plus some models of Audi, including the A4 and TT coupe.

Unfortunately, the engine is a rolling disaster with sludge formation being a real threat.

Apparently, Audi/VW may not have informed owners that the engine required synthetic oil, so owners (and dealers) proceeded to use conventional oil after the break-in period. The usual coke/sludge issues appeared and engines failed in considerable numbers. Models from 1997 to 2004 are affected – essentially any car wearing the 1.8T badge.

Add to this high oil consumption and frequent coil pack failures – one coil pack sits atop each cylinder and serves as the ignition coil firing the spark plug – and you’ve got one troublesome motor.

Way to go, German engineering.

Toyota 3.0 L V6

Toyota’s 3.0 L V-6 is prone to clotting with oil sludge and seizing up in 1997-2002 models with this engine, although Toyota is apt to blame owners for not changing the oil often enough or for using the wrong oil.

Many experts disagree, suggesting a defect in the breathing or circulation system is the likely culprit.

The affected models include V6 models of the 1997-2002 Toyota Camry, Avalon, Sienna, Highlander and Solara. The Lexus ES300 and RX300 used the same ill-fated 3.0 L V6. After 2002, Toyota made some improvements that appeared to solve the problem.

Toyota settled a class-action lawsuit in 2007 that covered an estimated 2.5 million Toyota and Lexus models made between 1997 and 2002 susceptible to engine sludge. The automaker agreed to repair sludged engines for up to eight years after leaving the factory.

General Motors 3.1 and 3.4 L V6

GM’s 3100 and 3400 V6 engines were too clever by half, built with a composite intake gasket and new, long-life, Dex-Cool antifreeze. Original formula Dex-Cool reacted with the nylon/silicone gasket material, eating a hole between a coolant passage and oil drain, allowing the engine to fill rapidly with coolant. The result was a seized engine.

The defect affected numerous GM models made between 1995 and 2003.5. GM eventually caved in to the lawsuits and announced a settlement that specified the replacement of the lower intake gasket within seven years or 150,000 miles of the date of initial delivery.

Technicians have noted that once the faulty gasket is replaced with a steel carrier-type gasket, these engines can rack up 300,000 km and more with no problems.

But orange Dex-Cool has been blamed for other costly repairs, including corroded cooling-system components.

Saab 2.0 and 2.3 L Four Cylinder Turbo

Saab has extended warranties on its turbo engines made from 1999 to 2002 due to a nasty oil sludge problem. The poorly thought-out service recommendation for 16,000-km oil changes, using conventional motor oil or semi-synthetics, has ruined many four-cylinder Saab motors.

Sludge and coke (carbon) buildup on the very fine oil pickup screen in the oil sump can starve the engine of oil, resulting in complete engine failure. Experts suggest this may be due to the catalytic converter being mounted below the sump, cooking the oil at high temperature.

Currently, Saab recommends removal of the sump and doing a complete cleaning. That’s if the engine is still running. Then there’s direct-ignition cassette failures and cylinder-head gasket leaks to contend with.

Affected models include the 2000-03 Saab 9-3 and 1999-2003 Saab 9-5.

Nissan 2.5 L Four Cylinder

The pre-catalytic converter built into the exhaust manifold of Nissan’s 2.5 L four cylinder engine can reportedly disintegrate as it ages. The ceramic material gets sucked back into the motor, causing increased oil and coolant consumption and, eventually, engine self-annihilation.

It’s a big problem among 2002 and 2003 2.5 L four-cylinder Altimas, as well as Sentras with the same motor. Then came word Altimas and Sentra SE-Rs equipped with the same engine built between January and May 2006 may experience unusually high oil consumption. This can lead to premature engine failure and possibly a fire.

Owners of any 2.5 L Nissan engine are advised to check their engine oil level frequently. This motor also reportedly loves to ingest the screws from the butterfly valves in the intake runners, another hazard that can score the cylinder walls.

Ford “Modular” 4.6/5.4/6.8 L Engines

Two-valve 4.6 L and 5.4 L V8, and 6.8 L V10 engines found in many 1997-2004 Ford, Mercury and Lincoln vehicles have an issue with stripped or missing spark plug threads in the cylinder heads.

Owners have reported spark plugs blowing out of their engines and, in one instance, right through the hood (!).

Ford acknowledges this issue in TSB 07-21-2. Ford’s authorized repair procedure for out-of-warranty vehicles prescribes an aluminum insert and tool kit. Reportedly, the 5.4 L “Triton” truck engine is the worst.

The opposite problem may also appear. Found in many 2004-2008 models with the same size engines (but with three valves per cylinder), a unique spark plug design with a two-piece shell has been known to separate, leaving the lower portion stuck deep in the motor. Ford distributes special tools for removing the seized plugs. Repairs can be surprisingly expensive – and frustrating.

Mazda “Renesis” 1.3 L Rotary

For all its renowned simplicity and performance, Mazda’s lightweight, new-generation “Renesis” 1.3 L rotary engine has displayed a number of teething problems since its debut in the 2004 Mazda RX-8.

It has a voracious appetite for motor oil; 2004 and 2005 RX-8s, along with some 2006s, may sustain damage to the catalytic converter due to oil migrating downstream.

Without copious oil, the engine’s apex seals can wear prematurely, resulting in lower compression and requiring an engine rebuild at a relatively early age.

The RX-8’s battery and starter are reputed to fail in cold climates. Owners have also been frustrated by the motor’s propensity to flood if it is started and shut off in a brief period, such as during a parking manoeuvre.
http://www.wheels.ca/news/here-are-8-engines-you-should-avoid/

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Re: Here Are 8 Engines You Should Avoid by timidapsin(m): 2:24pm On Jul 02, 2016
Like my comment when this post hits frontpage... smiley

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Re: Here Are 8 Engines You Should Avoid by symbianDON(m): 3:40pm On Jul 02, 2016
wow!!! education piece. I'm quite surprised to read about the Toyota v6 engine though.

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Re: Here Are 8 Engines You Should Avoid by boldx(m): 4:29pm On Jul 02, 2016
Ctrl C + Ctrl V, Recycled so many times on Nairaland. Autosbay, u no dey tire?

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Re: Here Are 8 Engines You Should Avoid by diportivo: 7:42pm On Jul 02, 2016
symbianDON:
wow!!! education piece. I'm quite surprised to read about the Toyota v6 engine though.

Bros

Why r u surprised
Re: Here Are 8 Engines You Should Avoid by symbianDON(m): 7:45pm On Jul 02, 2016
diportivo:

Bros
Why r u surprised
in all honesty I never knew that particular engine was troublesome
Re: Here Are 8 Engines You Should Avoid by AutosBay(m): 8:21pm On Jul 02, 2016
@ all thanks
Re: Here Are 8 Engines You Should Avoid by Nobody: 10:11pm On Jul 02, 2016
No any Bmw engine on that list? Ok, Shinabole! grin

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Re: Here Are 8 Engines You Should Avoid by king406(m): 11:14pm On Jul 02, 2016
That GM own though shocked
Re: Here Are 8 Engines You Should Avoid by lonelydora: 11:37pm On Jul 02, 2016
Yeepa! Honda engine is not among.

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Re: Here Are 8 Engines You Should Avoid by AutosBay(m): 12:01am On Jul 03, 2016
@lonelydora Honda are best known for wheel alignment and balancing issues as my expert GAZZUZZ posted initially
Re: Here Are 8 Engines You Should Avoid by AutosBay(m): 12:05am On Jul 03, 2016
@ boldx what you said only becomes plagiarism if and only if you fail to reference the source, always check the tail end of my post, I never fail to cite my sources. Thanks

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Re: Here Are 8 Engines You Should Avoid by boldx(m): 5:16am On Jul 03, 2016
AutosBay:
@ boldx what you said only becomes plagiarism if and only if you fail to reference the source, always check the tail end of my post, I never fail to cite my sources. Thanks
Here is my evidence that this is a recycled topic.
https://www.nairaland.com/2879000/here-8-engines-avoid

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Re: Here Are 8 Engines You Should Avoid by timilehing(m): 6:50am On Jul 03, 2016
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Re: Here Are 8 Engines You Should Avoid by ychris: 6:51am On Jul 03, 2016
Me whey no get keke let alone hmnnn....
well sha make i read ham
eda o laropin

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Re: Here Are 8 Engines You Should Avoid by SPG4U(m): 6:55am On Jul 03, 2016
ok
Re: Here Are 8 Engines You Should Avoid by redcliff: 6:59am On Jul 03, 2016
boldx:
Ctrl C + Ctrl V, Recycled so many times on Nairaland. Autosbay, u no dey tire?

Abeg leave am alone o

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Re: Here Are 8 Engines You Should Avoid by westerngezy(m): 7:00am On Jul 03, 2016
I use the 1.8T I4 engine and have no problem whatsoever with it. Just do your REGULAR oil changes and you are fine. A powerful engine though..

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Re: Here Are 8 Engines You Should Avoid by davodyguy: 7:03am On Jul 03, 2016
Old news.

Early morning, the mods recycled a post from Canada here, for the OP to start feeling like Mungo Park
Re: Here Are 8 Engines You Should Avoid by d33types: 7:03am On Jul 03, 2016
modified
Re: Here Are 8 Engines You Should Avoid by chimah3(m): 7:09am On Jul 03, 2016
Not so true anyway!

Maintenance is key I guess!!!

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Re: Here Are 8 Engines You Should Avoid by diportivo: 7:09am On Jul 03, 2016
d33types:
misleading thread to some extent

for instance ,there was more than one type of Toyota’s 3.0 L V-6 used from 1997-2002

Really??

Apart from the MZ-FE,teach us the odas

Let us learn

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Re: Here Are 8 Engines You Should Avoid by Adesiji77: 7:12am On Jul 03, 2016
My engine no dey there tongue
Re: Here Are 8 Engines You Should Avoid by ReabridCharles(m): 7:13am On Jul 03, 2016
Beetle engine is everlasting.
You will use it and get tired.
I inherited one from my father.

I dumped the car cos it refused to spoil itself.
Op, plz include beetle.....

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Re: Here Are 8 Engines You Should Avoid by Frankiss44(m): 7:16am On Jul 03, 2016
ReabridCharles:
Beetle engine is everlasting. You will use it and get tired. I inherited one from my father.
I dumped the car cos it refused to spoil itself. Op, plz include beetle.....
Oga did you read the topic at all abi sleep still day your eyes?

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Re: Here Are 8 Engines You Should Avoid by mudiana(m): 7:20am On Jul 03, 2016
boldx:
Ctrl C + Ctrl V, Recycled so many times on Nairaland. Autosbay, u no dey tire?
because you have seen it before no one else should see it bah? everyday nairaland welcomes new members and this kind of information is good/necessary.

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Re: Here Are 8 Engines You Should Avoid by ReabridCharles(m): 7:20am On Jul 03, 2016
Frankiss44:


Oga did you read the topic at all abi sleep still day your eyes?

Na that oil consumption bullshit you won make I read finish like say I get motor?

I don tell you, avoid beetle engine for ur own good.
Re: Here Are 8 Engines You Should Avoid by luvinhubby(m): 7:20am On Jul 03, 2016
So true.

That 1999 Camry V6 engine (tiny light) dealt with me.
Accumulated sludge despite regular oil change & had to replace the engine.

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Re: Here Are 8 Engines You Should Avoid by jojothaiv(m): 7:26am On Jul 03, 2016
Educative... But still rocking my legs.....

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Re: Here Are 8 Engines You Should Avoid by RichDad1(m): 7:34am On Jul 03, 2016
Thanks.
Thank good ness my next car is not listed.


What ya say about the 2012 avensis?
Re: Here Are 8 Engines You Should Avoid by visijo(m): 7:39am On Jul 03, 2016
as i see ''here are 5 engline you should avoid'' i thought you mean search engine and i was expecting.. Bing.. Google etc..i never get car yet so those names just sound like chinese movie to me... Thanks for the info.

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Re: Here Are 8 Engines You Should Avoid by corneli83(m): 7:43am On Jul 03, 2016
d33types:
misleading thread to some extent

for instance ,there was more than one type of Toyota’s 3.0 L V-6 used from 1997-2002
I know of one and that's 1MZ, 2MZ was initiated in 2002 for Camry while they used 3MZ for RX300 and other V6 3.0 vehicles of same year till 2006.
Please expand your own point and let's learn from you.

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