topsy23:


@Hajj you can see that price of cables is not rriendly these days. People building houses these days believe that services(like Electrical, plumbing and AC) are just minor thing when it comes to building construction. The price I sent to you through whatsapp is still lower than the ones posted above because more discount is given to their major distributor. Price of cables increase almost every month in Nigeria now. God help Nigeria

Everything has "Changed" Shocked to hear that price of 2000 litres tank that I bought few weeks to change for N25,000 is now been sold for N39,000.

allCopacetic:

Its a really sad development , we pay lip service to wanting quality, but turn arnd and put the quality second place when it's time to take decisions.
How exactly did the client ascertain that the supplier was giving him quality materials ?
Imagine if it ws some quack who couldn't tell the difference , the supplier would have succeeded in creating a false impression, making the person who actually gives the price of good materials look like a thief.
I tell people, if electricity is uninterrupted in this country for 6 months straight, half of the houses in Naija will need to be rewired. The effects of many fake electrical materials are not felt yet because we barely have electricity.
Only principle and the good heart of a few importers and sellers still keep our markets afloat. There is little incentive for selling good stuff in Naija.
Keep up the good work

You are right boss, 70% of the houses in this country will be affected because of the fake marials. A lot things is rellay affecting building services these and most people are looking for cheap materials and labour. I can not imagine an electrician looped 3 Air condition on a circuit using 2.5mm cable and giving guarantee that there will be no problem it will work. They have started experiencing serious problem less than 2weeks of handling over. I visited the place and submitted my report to the client. I condemned the whole electrical installation. How can electrician use 2.5mm cable to power 3nos of 1 .5hp AC? See connection inside the ceilng void. Client want to save money but end up spend more(tripple)

Please your fan needs help o. Awaiting ur contributions.

Thanks

Naniakay1:
Hello Lovely Builders, I appreciate your wonderful work and insightful contributions on this thread. Could someone assist with the cost of decking my 4 bedroom duplex please? Below are the ground and first floor designs;
The building area is 245.93sqm. Thanks in advance.

Naniakay1:
Please your fan needs help o. Awaiting ur contributions.

Thanks

Less than 3m!

Pad Lock vs. Double Cylinder Deadbolt Lock

So, I'm still at the fencing and gate stage and would like the houses opinion on the locks to use.

I hate fumbling with padlocks at the pedestrian and car gates. Has anyone used double cylinder deadbolt locks for both of those entry points?

I know these locks are readily available.

topsy23:


You are right boss, 70% of the houses in this country will be affected because of the fake marials. A lot things is rellay affecting building services these and most people are looking for cheap materials and labour. I can not imagine an electrician looped 3 Air condition on a circuit using 2.5mm cable and giving guarantee that there will be no problem it will work. They have started experiencing serious problem less than 2weeks of handling over. I visited the place and submitted my report to the client. I condemned the whole electrical installation. How can electrician use 2.5mm cable to power 3nos of 1 .5hp AC? See connection inside the ceilng void. Client want to save money but end up spend more(tripple)

Smh, you can imagine.
Everybody wey carry tester and hammer na electrician. Funny thing is, those kind of quacks get more jobs because they come cheap and 50% of the time they abandon the project halfway.
Is this a commercial building?

spyder880:


@allcopacetic, if you have the picture of a genuine pack of Coleman cables, please share. I think I have some original packs of some Nigerian cables I can snap and share later today. (Cutix, Cometstar)

Will I look like a mean man if I unwrap one pack and stretch it along the market lines and use my good old tape to measure the length of the wires? #saynotofake

(NB. I don't sell wires, I only buy for my various projects and I have some houses I am starting it's wiring soon.)

Baba mi, i wish it was just a simple matter of packaging. But it's alot more complex than that.
It's very easy to package any cable to look EXACTLY like any of the major brands in the country. Even in hand you'll be hard pressed to tell, let alone mere pictures. There are even imported ones with the name clearly engraved on the insulator but slightly misspelled ....

For instance there is Nigershin, Nigershine, and Nigerchine ( instead of Nigerchin)

There is also Coman, Colman and I think a few others(instead of Coleman)

There is also the issue of coils containing original cables inside, but with the length altered and recoiled. If you are able to acertain the brand name on the insulator how do you verify the length? You cannot possibly measure all the cables and they know this. So dem go wait for you make you do all your inspector gadget finish....... Then finish you with mixing when it's time to supply.

My advice to any buyer is... avoid all this headache, risks and uncertainty and buy from the manufacturer or (to save more money) from a " verified" distributor.... better still, request that he supply you from the factory if in doubt (that way you still get it directly from the manufacturer but at a lower cost)

Personally i prefer to supply customers directly from the factory when the quantity is reasonable. it keeps the customer assured of what he is getting, absolves the seller of any foul play, and no quack can come and cry wolf because he didn't do the buying.

twinskenny:
you reminded me of that pac film....JUICE

How do you mean?

msogunro:
Pad Lock vs. Double Cylinder Deadbolt Lock

So, I'm still at the fencing and gate stage and would like the houses opinion on the locks to use.

I hate fumbling with padlocks at the pedestrian and car gates. Has anyone used double cylinder deadbolt locks for both of those entry points?

I know these locks are readily available.

I've only done this setup before (openable from one side only). The gate only open from inside using the deadbolt lock or mechanically using the Automatic Gate Operator remote.

If the gate is opened, someone with a key must have opened it. I really don't have to worry about lock picking or padlock breaking cos it's really a hardnut to crack.

So you are here posting pictures of the Chateau, and refused to reply to my message or calls !

I informed you on several occasions today and yesterday that the refund due for the FAKE/FORGED BUILDING PLAN was due yesterday, the outstanding balance remains N100,000 of which you are supposed to be paying N10,000 per week.

[size=15pt]Can you give me/the house an idea of when the next installment payment will be made ? ?

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n3xt:


I've only done this setup before (openable from one side only). The gate only open from inside using the deadbolt lock or mechanically using the Automatic Gate Operator remote.

If the gate is opened, someone with a key must have opened it. I really don't have to worry about lock picking or padlock breaking cos it's really a hardnut to crack.

mavverick:
So you are here posting pictures of the Chateau, and refused to reply to my message or calls !

I informed you on several occasions today and yesterday that the refund due for the FAKE/FORGED BUILDING PLAN was due yesterday, the outstanding balance remains N100,000 of which you are supposed to be paying N10,000 per week.

[size=15pt]Can you give me/the house an idea of when the next installment payment will be made ? ?

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I thought you guys had an agreement sir?

allCopacetic:

Baba mi, i wish it was just a simple matter of packaging. But it's alot more complex than that.
It's very easy to package any cable to look EXACTLY like any of the major brands in the country. Even in hand you'll be hard pressed to tell, let alone mere pictures. There are even imported ones with the name clearly engraved on the insulator but slightly misspelled ....

For instance there is Nigershin, Nigershine, and Nigerchine ( instead of Nigerchin)

There is also Coman, Colman and I think a few others(instead of Coleman)

There is also the issue of coils containing original cables inside, but with the length altered and recoiled. If you are able to acertain the brand name on the insulator how do you verify the length? You cannot possibly measure all the cables and they know this. So dem go wait for you make you do all your inspector gadget finish....... Then finish you with mixing when it's time to supply.

My advice to any buyer is... avoid all this headache, risks and uncertainty and buy from the manufacturer or (to save more money) from a " verified" distributor.... better still, request that he supply you from the factory if in doubt (that way you still get it directly from the manufacturer but at a lower cost)

Personally i prefer to supply customers directly from the factory when the quantity is reasonable. it keeps the customer assured of what he is getting, absolves the seller of any foul play, and no quack can come and cry wolf because he didn't do the buying.

knowing what you want, being an expert in the line and dealing with close distributors who can't let you down is the main solution when it comes to electrical wires forget about going to their company.

**** behave like a smart dude and get scammed
****dull yourself and pay the amount you will use to buy orginal for fake.
**** try to know it all and end up buying crap at the end cos these ppl are smart and confusing.

My build isnt up to wiring level so i aint botherd cos if it gets there, i will just call one of my tenant in Alaba market to supply me.

I live and grew up in Alaba international market and i can brag that i will never buy anything fake there cos i know how they play thier games.

We have a lot of them as tenant who have parking store and wherehouse in our compound.
They import wire from China and recoil them.
They will remove the wrap meant for original to wrap the fake cheap ones they import from china and sell them same price you will buy the original. How do i know this? i see it with my eyes everyday (i wasnt told).

The best wire you can buy in nigeria is nigeria wire that thier names are boldly written on it. I dont know if they now have another method of printing the names on fake wires because there is nothing igbo boys cant do (they are very smart).

The last wire my mum bought last year was from our tenant who sells it and we dont need to remind him that we want original cos we know everything, we buy from him all the time for friends and family. and the electrician will confirm that they are original.

The funny part is; they will give China a look alike name with original and when u get to the market, they will convince u that the fake one is the original and mind u, the price of the fake one will be higher than the original for you to think that's truly original (only expert in the line can spot the difference). The original ones are meant for their "we we" who know as e dey go

No be lie o, if Nigeria get light for 3 months without off, many houses will burn to ashes.

Please we can't go back to the era of derailing the thread, if you have issue with any builder, call their numbers or call them out on their thread. We have threads meant for that purpose.

https://www.nairaland.com/2690865/nexthome-official-complaint-thread oga brabus

https://www.nairaland.com/3038050/review-bash-praise-clients-builders Oga mufu.

Please let's co operate with the new development and enjoy our thread.

Thank you.
Cc lawyer

Absolutely, written here for everyone to see.
I am wondering if we are going back to the days of going back to the trenches ?

3strikes:




I thought you guys had an agreement sir?

allCopacetic:

Smh, you can imagine.
Everybody wey carry tester and hammer na electrician. Funny thing is, those kind of quacks get more jobs because they come cheap and 50% of the time they abandon the project halfway.
Is this a commercial building?

Yes its a commercial building, a show room own by a well known electronics company.

Please house am at m roofing stage in my 4 bedroom bungalow that is being constructed in Benin sapele road to be precise and I got this quotation front he engineer this morning for only the woodwork,am a novice when it comes to this and am not in Nigeria

Roofing n Ceiling work.
1, 3 x 4 nos 26@1600=41,600,
2,2 x4 nos 210@900=189,000.
3,2 x 3 no's 180@800=144,000.
4,2 x2 no's 180@500=90,000
5, nail 4 n 3inches bags 4@7500=30,000
6,loading n discharging 10,000.
7, transport 30,000
8 cost Roofing n Ceiling #250,000
Total amt# 784,600

Isn't this too much for just woodwork,please advice needed, I have the roof plan as well

n3xt:


I've only done this setup before (openable from one side only). The gate only open from inside using the deadbolt lock or mechanically using the Automatic Gate Operator remote.

If the gate is opened, someone with a key must have opened it. I really don't have to worry about lock picking or padlock breaking cos it's really a hardnut to crack.

Thank you for sharing. Your gate at the Chateau looks great!

This makes me feel a bit better about the idea. I would like the lock mechanism to be welded inside the panels of the gates so that only the key hole is visible. I wish I would have taken a picture of an entry door that I saw with this set-up. I hope it can be done with gates.

Teebawse:
Please house am at m roofing stage in my 4 bedroom bungalow that is being constructed in Benin sapele road to be precise and I got this quotation front he engineer this morning for only the woodwork,am a novice when it comes to this and am not in Nigeria

Roofing n Ceiling work.
1, 3 x 4 nos 26@1600=41,600,
2,2 x4 nos 210@900=189,000.
3,2 x 3 no's 180@800=144,000.
4,2 x2 no's 180@500=90,000
5, nail 4 n 3inches bags 4@7500=30,000
6,loading n discharging 10,000.
7, transport 30,000
8 cost Roofing n Ceiling #250,000
Total amt# 784,600

Isn't this too much for just woodwork,please advice needed, I have the roof plan as well

your kingpost type depends on the cost of wood you will use. If your build is a 'normal' standard 4 bedroom bungalow, what I am seeing here is too much.

Upload the roof plan for our pro's.

msogunro:


Thank you for sharing. Your gate at the Chateau looks great!

This makes me feel a bit better about the idea. I would like the lock mechanism to be welded inside the panels of the gates so that only the key hole is visible. I wish I would have taken a picture of an entry door that I saw with this set-up. I hope it can be done with gates.

It's possible with gates. The same welder made my kitchen security door below. I don't have full pics of the kitchen door though.

You just need to work with creative guys who will not tell you "it's impossible"


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Good job on your site. A perfect site for a Hilltop Chateau. That area looks much like Old Ife road.

FreeWorld23:
your kingpost type depends on the cost of wood you will use. If your build is a 'normal' standard 4 bedroom bungalow, what I am seeing here is too much.

Upload the roof plan for our pro's.

Here the roof plan

@ msogunro, here's the only thing I can think of that will seat well on boulders. Unique site deserves a different touch.

amanikondo:


Can I be your neighbor ? I have been looking for a mountain top properties like this with a great view.

I guess you've lost interest. The agent was expecting your call.

n3xt:
@ msogunro, here's the only thing I can think of that will seat well on boulders. Unique site deserves a different touch.

That would be nice, but it's too big and extravagant for our taste. Our proposed design is much simpler and focused on the view.

msogunro:
Pad Lock vs. Double Cylinder Deadbolt Lock

So, I'm still at the fencing and gate stage and would like the houses opinion on the locks to use.

I hate fumbling with padlocks at the pedestrian and car gates. Has anyone used double cylinder deadbolt locks for both of those entry points?

I know these locks are readily available.

Hey Mavverick/3Strikes it's time to pass the "padlock chicken coop" award to MSOgunro

msogunro:


That would be nice, but it's too big and extravagant for our taste. Our proposed design is much simpler and focused on the view.

Common sense.

msogunro:


That would be nice, but it's too big and extravagant for our taste. Our proposed design is much simpler and focused on the view.

I figured that tackiness wouldn't be your taste.

Looks like somewhere Count Dracula would live

EgunMogaji:


I figured that tackiness wouldn't be your taste.

Looks like somewhere Count Dracula would live

Like a scene out of the "Haunted house "

EgunMogaji:




Hey Mavverick/3Strikes it's time to pass the "padlock chicken coop" award to MSOgunro

Hahaha... what's the story behind this? I know someone called your 2 br apartment a chicken coop, but I missed the padlock part.

Teebawse:



Here the roof plan

oga mi, with this your design, just negotiate on the workmanship or you should get another quote from another person to compare I was thinking its our normal 4 sides roofing.

ice4u999:


Based on your experience, which company in Lagos will you recommend to someone like me when looking to purchase original electrical parts and other building materials like rods? Also what are some tests that I can carry out that would help me tell the difference between quality and fake especially when it comes down to iron rods and blinding wires.

Also for areas in Lagos closer to the ocean ( Ekpe and ibeju environs) with low water table, should considerations be taken as regards to the materials content of iron rods being used for raft foundations? As regards to corrosion

Oga, you need to take extra care in Ibeju axis especially if you're closer to the Okun side. Unprotected iron rods corrodes faster than you can ever imagine in that area.

The iron rod in the pic below is just 3 days old.

I can see this thread is being derailed again.