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Re: Nigerian atheists should take several seats by HCpaul(m): 2:26am On Aug 14, 2016
Thoniameek:
I saw a thread by seun calling on his fellow Nigerian atheist to become outspoken.... I mean not just here on nairaland anymore but out there to Nigerians. And all I could think of is 'disciples'.

What an average Nigerian need is proper education not hopelessness in form of atheism

Try to imagine the majority illiterate Nigerians having the mentality of most of the atheist on here, and imagine what state Nigeria will be in - I laugh in China. They make it seem like atheism is one savior the whorld needs.

As if atheism makes everything better

As if atheism brings peace

As if atheism helps me love better

As if atheism makes me blind to the flaws of others

And as if atheism makes wiser..... They should tell that to the lot of illiterate Nigerians (Not my great grandma that have been a witch and been dilivered and seen the power of God work)

Goodluck to telling the witches in edo state that tongue

That country that you laughed at aren't like us and their progress cannot br underestimated.

Nigerian has been trying the religious way to solve their problems and yet nothing happen. Let us attempt the atheistic way to solve it and fully see the positive attributes attached to atheism.

Or should we keep promoting the same failure by invoking the same solution that doesn't actually work?

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Re: Nigerian atheists should take several seats by promise10: 7:05am On Aug 14, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


Good, now open your holy book and point out "evil" carried out by atheists.

Bring that and we'll talk; the realisation would hit you that no evil was done by an atheist in that holy book of yours.


Bros, everyone of the 5000 gods' worshippers believe their god to be true, I believe by "God", you mean " Yahweh"; since they have just as much "proof" as you have, it only makes sense to us that we stay the way we are, after all anyone and everyone of those 5000 gods could be wrong, the reason you reject the other 4999 is why I reject yours


Most of you are theists because you want god to be real


Then that same God of yours carried out many things that you and I would call "evil" if it were done by any of the other 4999; if you doubt this, kindly read your book and wherever your god commanded people to kill innocent children, punish innocent people for Abraham's lies e.t.c, when you get to such places, replace the name of your god there with Vishnu and judge for yourself; I know you'll have excuses ready but other religions have excuses for the "evil" their gods did too



One of your believers with a huge level of faith has decided to make an amputee's limbs grow right before our eyes with the name of Jesus, when I see that work, I'll join you


I'm sure Buddhism is a "devilish one"

Islam is a "devilish one"

Hinduism is a "devilish one"

Anyone who doesn't share your belief is a "devilish one"

Even Christians themselves can't agree on which one is right, Jehovah's witnesses believe only them is following the doctrine

Catholics believe only them is following the doctrine

And it divides and keeps dividing

No need going too far to confirm that, you can see such arguments here on Nairaland, just look in threads and you'll see them call each other "the devil"


My way out of delusion is SINCERITY

Delusion is hard to spot, hence I may be more deluded now than ever but only time would tell
Please, I am tired of seeing this kind of ur post over and over again.

If you really want to argue or debate me about my God and the bible, can you just create a thread STRICTLY FOR BOTH OF US ONLY. If you are a sincere atheist, can you do that? JUST GIVE IT A TRY!

Note: strictly for both of us ALONE.
Re: Nigerian atheists should take several seats by hopefulLandlord: 7:53am On Aug 14, 2016
promise10:

Please, I am tired of seeing this kind of ur post over and over again.

If you really want to argue or debate me about my and the bible, can you just create a thread STRICTLY FOR BOTH OF US ONLY. If you are a sincere atheist, can you do that? JUST GIVE IT A TRY!

Note: strictly for both of us ALONE.

Bros, I replied him and countered his arguments, doesn't matter if its a groundbreakingly new thing I used or old thing so long it validly counters it

Oh! And about it not being new

[size=16pt]WHY NOT TELL THAT TO KINGEBUKA AND WINNIER01 THAT CREATE NEW THREADS WITH SAME PICTURES AND MEMES? THEY JUST SLIGHTLY CHANGE THE HEADING WHILE THE CONTENTS ARE VIRTUALLY THE SAME

CLICK THEIR MONICKERS AND CHECK THEIR TOPICS TO PROVE THIS

STOP BEING HYPOCRITICAL
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NB: there were new things in that post of mine, you just didn't see it

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Re: Nigerian atheists should take several seats by promise10: 8:37am On Aug 14, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


Bros, I replied him and countered his arguments, doesn't matter if its a groundbreakingly new thing I used or old thing so long it validly counters it

Oh! And about it not being new

[size=16pt]WHY NOT TELL THAT TO KINGEBUKA AND WINNIER01 THAT CREATE NEW THREADS WITH SAME PICTURES AND MEMES? THEY JUST SLIGHTLY CHANGE THE HEADING WHILE THE CONTENTS ARE VIRTUALLY THE SAME

CLICK THEIR MONICKERS AND CHECK THEIR TOPICS TO PROVE THIS

STOP BEING HYPOCRITICAL
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NB: there were new things in that post of mine, you just didn't see it
Please, this is not what I asked for!

If you really are a sincere atheist who thinks that my God is not real and as well the authenticity of the bible, just open up a thread and spew out your points to me. It will be strictly for both of us.
Re: Nigerian atheists should take several seats by Nobody: 8:56am On Aug 14, 2016
HCpaul:


That country that you laughed in aren't like us and their progress cannot br underestimated.

Nigerian has been trying the religious way to solve their problems and yet nothing happen. Let us attempt the atheistic way to solve it and fully see the positive attributes attached to atheism.

Or should we keep promoting the same failure by invoking the same solution that doesn't actually work?

What might I ask is the atheist way? Is it the hitler or Stalin way? undecided

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Re: Nigerian atheists should take several seats by Nobody: 9:11am On Aug 14, 2016
Lol. This thread is really hilarious. Nairaland atheists are one of the funniest peeps I've come across. So they are telling us that this life, the only life we would ever have is meaningless? That we should just accept the finality of death like that? That all the activities during our life on here, the memories, are but a waste once one dies? That's absurd and scary.

If not for the existence of religion which is constantly checking on the deeds of men, I don't think the world would be half as peaceful as it is now. Although I admire bits of their philosophy and views towards life and also find some of their arguments rational and not out of place, but claiming that our world was all but a product of chance is profoundly foolish. It's understandable for a Non-Nigerian to stick to such line of thought, but for someone who was born and bred in Nigeria, it's quite pitiable I must say. What, You don't need a book to tell you that God exists before you believe he does exists. C' mmon just take a look at the world and let the foolishness of your actions dawn on you. I have seen enough. I have been there and back. Only thing I'm not convinced of yet is God's morality. Like is he really the compassionate loving God he says he is? That's what I can't explain to myself.
Atheists even assert with all conviction that the big bang theory was the cause to all there is in this universe. So what was the force behind that clash? Lol. If present day chstians could muster such huge faith, there wouldn't be any cases of world disasters. Even me would be able to teleport to anywhere I desire at the snap of my fingers.

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Re: Nigerian atheists should take several seats by Ranchhoddas: 9:55am On Aug 14, 2016
Thoniameek:


What might I ask is the atheist way? Is it the hitler or Stalin way? undecided
Was Hitler atheist? Or have you joined them in spreading lies.
Re: Nigerian atheists should take several seats by hopefulLandlord: 10:40am On Aug 14, 2016
Drefan:
Lol. This thread is really hilarious. Nairaland atheists are one of the funniest peeps I've come across. So they are telling us that this life, the only life we would ever have is meaningless? That we should just accept the finality of death like that? That all the activities during our life on here, the memories, are but a waste once one dies? That's absurd and scary.

If not for the existence of religion which is constantly checking on the deeds of men, I don't think the world would be half as peaceful as it is now. Although I admire bits of their philosophy and views towards life and also find some of their arguments rational and not out of place, but claiming that our world was all but a product of chance is profoundly foolish. It's understandable for a Non-Nigerian to stick to such line of thought, but for someone who was born and bred in Nigeria, it's quite pitiable I must say. What, You don't need a book to tell you that God exists before you believe he does exists. C' mmon just take a look at the world and let the foolishness of your actions dawn on you. I have seen enough. I have been there and back. Only thing I'm not convinced of yet is God's morality. Like is he really the compassionate loving God he says he is? That's what I can't explain to myself.
Atheists even assert with all conviction that the big bang theory was the cause to all there is in this universe. So what was the force behind that clash? Lol. If present day chstians could muster such huge faith, there wouldn't be any cases of world disasters. Even me would be able to teleport to anywhere I desire at the snap of my fingers.
@ your bolded

Atheists is not the same as evolutionists

Google that and know the difference

Not all atheists accept the big bang theory bro
Re: Nigerian atheists should take several seats by Nobody: 11:01am On Aug 14, 2016
hopefulLandlord:

@ your bolded

Atheists is not the same as evolutionists

Google that and know the difference

Not all atheists accept the big bang theory bro

Okay. But most atheists here clinge fastly to evolution or fall back to it as a last resort. So what's the basis of an atheist's belief, your belief? Or if you are asked for instance, how did the universe came into being, what would be your response?
Re: Nigerian atheists should take several seats by hopefulLandlord: 11:07am On Aug 14, 2016
Drefan:

Okay. But most atheists here clinge fastly to evolution or fall back to it as a last resort. So what's the basis of an atheist's belief, your belief? Or if you are asked for instance, how did the universe came into being, what would be your response?

If you ask me, my reply would be simply "I DON'T KNOW"

I accept and admit my ignorance but won't fill that knowledge gap with a god

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Re: Nigerian atheists should take several seats by Nobody: 11:20am On Aug 14, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


If you ask me, my reply would be simply "I DON'T KNOW"

I accept and admit my ignorance but won't fill that knowledge gap with a god
So your own belief is caught up between Atheism and Theism. Interesting. But you find it convenient to disprove the existence of an entity with all certainty just because you don't know he truly exists or you don't want to accept reality?
Re: Nigerian atheists should take several seats by hopefulLandlord: 12:15pm On Aug 14, 2016
Drefan:

So your own belief is caught up between Atheism and Theism. Interesting. But you find it convenient to disprove the existence of an entity with all certainty just because you don't know he truly exists or you don't want to accept reality?

Can we stay on topic pls

What you asked was very simple

You think that we have two options of how we came about

A creationism

B Evolutionism

I'm now telling you that you're not forced to chose between the two

Both have their question marks

Hence

C: I don't know

If you're asked what I've eaten today, option C would be your answer
Re: Nigerian atheists should take several seats by Nobody: 4:05pm On Aug 14, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


Can we stay on topic pls

What you asked was very simple

You think that we have two options of how we came about

A creationism

B Evolutionism

I'm now telling you that you're not forced to chose between the two

Both have their question marks

Hence

C: I don't know

If you're asked what I've eaten today, option C would be your answer

Hmmm. Your case is difficult than I initially thought. The example you used doesn't make any atom of sense.
There's no way I will be able to guess the right answer. To begin with, I don't even know anything about you. But you are likely to have been informed about Creationism by virture of the bible and Nairaland posts. In same vein, all it takes to know a thing or two about Evolutionism, is but a click away from google.

You are like a friend of mine who says he's neither for God nor the devil. You go with whatever direction the wind toss you. Self delusion. Very funny.

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Re: Nigerian atheists should take several seats by hopefulLandlord: 4:09pm On Aug 14, 2016
Drefan:

Hmmm. Your case is difficult than I initially thought. The example you used doesn't make any atom of sense.
There's no way I will be able to guess the right answer. To begin with, I don't even know anything about you. But you are likely to have been informed about Creationism by virture of the bible and Nairaland posts. In same vein, all it takes to know a thing or two about Evolutionism, is but a click away from google.

You are like a friend of mine who says he's neither for God nor the devil. You go with whatever direction the wind toss you. Self delusion. Very funny.

If that's how you see me, more power to you
Re: Nigerian atheists should take several seats by Nobody: 4:23pm On Aug 14, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


If that's how you see me, more power to you
I thought I was weird. Didn't know there's someone that beat me to that.
Re: Nigerian atheists should take several seats by hopefulLandlord: 4:43pm On Aug 14, 2016
Drefan:

I thought I was weird. Didn't know there's someone that beat me to that.

Hey bro,

All I did here was to correct the impression that atheism is the same as evolutionism

I believe I've shown you so far that they're not the same

Its not by force to go with one

As for the example you said makes no sense

Exactly, you're not compelled to guess, hence, you don't know, even if you know someone very well, you may still guess wrong

So I teach my lips to say "I don't know" that's why its totally wrong to think all of us have chosen the evolution theory

If you still think they're same, maybe your Christian brothers and sisters can help you out

Thanks

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Re: Nigerian atheists should take several seats by Nobody: 5:18pm On Aug 14, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


Hey bro,

All I did here was to correct the impression that atheism is the same as evolutionism

I believe I've shown you so far that they're not the same

Its not by force to go with one

As for the example you said makes no sense

Exactly, you're not compelled to guess, hence, you don't know, even if you know someone very well, you may still guess wrong

So I teach my lips to say "I don't know" that's why its totally wrong to think all us them have chosen the evolutionary theory

If you still think they're same, maybe your Christian brothers and sisters can help you out

Thanks

You mistake my statement. I didn't opine that atheism and evolutionism are same thing. I only said both go hand in hand like kerosine and match stick as regards "nairaland atheists".

If you don't believe the biblical God created the world, then definitely you are consciously/consciously standing on the counter to that fact - which is evolutionism aka accepting that the world appeared into existence without the influence of anything, and chance too. That's what's obtainable at the moment or what other rational notion there is to proffer.

You kept some paper currencies in the cupboard in your house and went out; on getting back, everything is gone. I think the only two possible explanation that can be given as to what caused that event, is either someone must have taken it, or a rat. Hope you now understand my point
Re: Nigerian atheists should take several seats by winner01(m): 6:19pm On Aug 14, 2016
4everGod:



Preach brother Preach!!!

I am Nigerian and I proudly say ...ATHEISM Taaaarr!
Lol.. grin Taaarrr!!
Re: Nigerian atheists should take several seats by winner01(m): 6:20pm On Aug 14, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
I love the ending of this article grin grin grin grin

Nice work bro
Thanks man.
Re: Nigerian atheists should take several seats by winner01(m): 6:21pm On Aug 14, 2016
Muafrika2:
Winner01, remove "s" in the https in the image links in the op
Thanks Bro, I was banned since yesterday for wetin i no know.
Re: Nigerian atheists should take several seats by Nobody: 6:33pm On Aug 14, 2016
winner01:
Thanks Bro, I was banned since yesterday for wetin i no know.
cheesy
Re: Nigerian atheists should take several seats by Nobody: 6:36pm On Aug 14, 2016
winner01:
Lol.. grin Taaarrr!!

That your quote deserves to be on a T-Shirt bro. grin grin

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Re: Nigerian atheists should take several seats by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:48pm On Aug 14, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


Bros, I replied him and countered his arguments, doesn't matter if its a groundbreakingly new thing I used or old thing so long it validly counters it

Oh! And about it not being new

[size=16pt]WHY NOT TELL THAT TO KINGEBUKA AND WINNIER01 THAT CREATE NEW THREADS WITH SAME PICTURES AND MEMES? THEY JUST SLIGHTLY CHANGE THE HEADING WHILE THE CONTENTS ARE VIRTUALLY THE SAME

CLICK THEIR MONICKERS AND CHECK THEIR TOPICS TO PROVE THIS

STOP BEING HYPOCRITICAL
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NB: there were new things in that post of mine, you just didn't see it

Please my sobriquet is 'kingebukasblog' . But why art thou pained You guys started this whole thing

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Re: Nigerian atheists should take several seats by winner01(m): 6:52pm On Aug 14, 2016
Thoniameek:
I saw a thread by seun calling on his fellow Nigerian atheist to become outspoken.... I mean not just here on nairaland anymore but out there to Nigerians. And all I could think of is 'disciples'.

What an average Nigerian need is proper education not hopelessness in form of atheism

Yes ooo my sister grin

To seun and other atheists trying to tell us to become what they aren't, we say Taaar!!!

Seun, Plaetton , Johnydon22 ilovetheline, JackBizzle, Kay17, Weah96 , AgentOfAllah, Ayomikun37 , hahn , sonOfLucifer , frank317 muskeeto , Decker , PastorAIO , ValentineMary , Pyrrho , braithwaite , dragonEmperor , theoneJabulani , cloudgoddess , ifenes , brigance , stephenmorris , thehomer, dalaman, hopefulLandlord, menehsheh, sweetcocoa......Taaar!!!

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Re: Nigerian atheists should take several seats by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:55pm On Aug 14, 2016
promise10:

Please, this is not what I asked for!

If you really are a sincere atheist who thinks that my God is not real and as well the authenticity of the bible, just open up a thread and spew out your points to me. It will be strictly for both of us.

These atheists need the support of their cohorts to look smart . He won't agree to this "standoff" because he has an elusive pride as an atheist he wants to protect

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Re: Nigerian atheists should take several seats by winner01(m): 6:55pm On Aug 14, 2016
4everGod:


That your quote deserves to be on a T-Shirt bro. grin grin
;DWow grin

Lovely T-Shirt.

I need me one grin
Re: Nigerian atheists should take several seats by winner01(m): 6:58pm On Aug 14, 2016
FearGodAndLive:
There's stupidity.. and then there's the Nigerian stupidity - steeped in proud ignorance. Unwilling to learn, change or absorb new information.

That's all I see here.
That would depend on if the information is reasonable and useful.
Re: Nigerian atheists should take several seats by Nobody: 7:00pm On Aug 14, 2016
winner01:
;DWow grin

Lovely T-Shirt.

I need me one grin

we dont need that T shirt here in Naija. 95% of Nigerians do not even know what Atheism is grin grin
Re: Nigerian atheists should take several seats by hopefulLandlord: 12:48am On Aug 15, 2016
Drefan:


You mistake my statement. I didn't opine that atheism and evolutionism are same thing. I only said both go hand in hand like kerosine and match stick as regards "nairaland atheists".

If you don't believe the biblical God created the world, then definitely you are consciously/consciously standing on the counter to that fact - which is evolutionism aka accepting that the world appeared into existence without the influence of anything, and chance too. That's what's obtainable at the moment or what other rational notion there is to proffer.

You kept some paper currencies in the cupboard in your house and went out; on getting back, everything is gone. I think the only two possible explanation that can be given as to what caused that event, is either someone must have taken it, or a rat. Hope you now understand my point

I got your point really well, but I doubt you get mine

How are you so sure there can't be another discovery sometime in the future that defeats both creationism and evolutionism?

Are you absolutely sure that both are the only possible option?

Like I said both of them have their flaws, its not by force to chose one
Re: Nigerian atheists should take several seats by hopefulLandlord: 12:53am On Aug 15, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Please my sobriquet is 'kingebukasblog' . But why art thou pained You guys started this whole thing

Like I usually tell your brother

He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster


If you don't understand the meaning of what I just said up there like your brother 4evergod who thought I mean he has horns and vampire looking teeth, pls say so, I'll gladly explain
Re: Nigerian atheists should take several seats by braithwaite(m): 8:10am On Aug 15, 2016
winner01:
Yes ooo my sister grin

To seun and other atheists trying to tell us to become what they aren't, we say Taaar!!!

Seun, Plaetton , Johnydon22 ilovetheline, JackBizzle, Kay17, Weah96 , AgentOfAllah, Ayomikun37 , hahn , sonOfLucifer , frank317 muskeeto , Decker , PastorAIO , ValentineMary , Pyrrho , braithwaite , dragonEmperor , theoneJabulani , cloudgoddess , ifenes , brigance , stephenmorris , thehomer, dalaman, hopefulLandlord, menehsheh, sweetcocoa......Taaar!!!



What they aren't...

Explain that abeg

Re: Nigerian atheists should take several seats by winner01(m): 10:29am On Aug 15, 2016
HCpaul:


That country that you laughed in aren't like us and their progress cannot br underestimated.

Nigerian has been trying the religious way to solve their problems and yet nothing happen. Let us attempt the atheistic way to solve it and fully see the positive attributes attached to atheism.

Or should we keep promoting the same failure by invoking the same solution that doesn't actually work?
This guy, you just say some long nonsense without thinking undecided. Dont you have anything in your head.
How is Nigeria trying the religious way undecided

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