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Re: **the Making Of 2storey Building (12 Flats) Of One Bedroom Apartment In Enugu** by dubemcapital(m): 10:39pm On Aug 15, 2016
free2blast:
CONGRATS, MINIMUM SPACE UTILIZED MAXIMALLY.


Thank you sir
Re: **the Making Of 2storey Building (12 Flats) Of One Bedroom Apartment In Enugu** by dubemcapital(m): 10:45pm On Aug 15, 2016
mightyhazel:
Buriful!

Great pace of work. The workmen even work at nights. How do u motivate dem?





Nice dpc for a water prone area too.


We Have foam mat for the workers in the site, where they can sleep. Generator set, and extra pay for overtime with this they will be comftable and motivated I will also get a radio set for them and they have security so for them is fun. grin
Re: **the Making Of 2storey Building (12 Flats) Of One Bedroom Apartment In Enugu** by dubemcapital(m): 11:18pm On Aug 15, 2016
Arinze86:
Dear engineer, I advice u should go bck to ur books nd apply a differnt type of foundation...from a clear view, the site is a water area or whteva seen d heavy flow of water insde ur trench....i advice for a proper raft foundation...meanwhile...what is the type of foundation u designed for d building?


Thank you for your kind advice, but if you take a good look at the soil, is not a stratum. I mean the capacity is good but has water underneath. However I considered the soil subsurface layer and it's bearing capacity; the cast reinforcement which is up to 400 centimeters thickness was done with regards to that effect . Its a strap footing foundation. Thank you.

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Re: **the Making Of 2storey Building (12 Flats) Of One Bedroom Apartment In Enugu** by LondonCool(m): 11:30pm On Aug 15, 2016
Well done. Are there any picture updates on the progress so far?

Did you engage a Structural Engineer at any stage of the building work?
Re: **the Making Of 2storey Building (12 Flats) Of One Bedroom Apartment In Enugu** by dubemcapital(m): 11:38pm On Aug 15, 2016
Pamelayoung:


Nice job bro, hope I can contact u to build 4 me in Awka, but I'm still looking for land.


We are available for our clients, their satisfaction is our pride.
Re: **the Making Of 2storey Building (12 Flats) Of One Bedroom Apartment In Enugu** by dubemcapital(m): 11:42pm On Aug 15, 2016
Pamelayoung:


Sorry pls, am a novice in this but I need to ask, where you pumping the water out or into a storage tank since u will still be needing water.


We pump it outside the compound because we have Enough water in the well
Re: **the Making Of 2storey Building (12 Flats) Of One Bedroom Apartment In Enugu** by dubemcapital(m): 12:08am On Aug 16, 2016
innovestor:
Good Morning,

There is a question i want to ask, probably out of ignorance or out of the need to know why things are "traditionally" done which could be corrected.

I see from the foundation (and all building foundations for that matter) that there are blocks laid for the internal building partitioning prior to blinding. Is this really necessary going by the fact that you did blind casting on the external areas of the building.

To be put in other words, do we really need the internal partitioning with blocks, only for it to be covered with sand and blinded off, and going by the fact that they don't bear the load of the building (only the pillars bear the load of the entire building).

Thanks for your response (or that of any other person) in advance.

P.S. I love your design. I think this is the new "fashion" in modern buildings. Let me have your contact so we do small business offline as i see you are the architect..





Thank you sir, we call it brace panel stud in foundation. what it does is reinforcement kind of, chained together , if such measures are ignored it can crack up or colapes the foundation and the building sinks.
Re: **the Making Of 2storey Building (12 Flats) Of One Bedroom Apartment In Enugu** by dubemcapital(m): 12:16am On Aug 16, 2016
Where we are now.... Lintels in view

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Re: **the Making Of 2storey Building (12 Flats) Of One Bedroom Apartment In Enugu** by dubemcapital(m): 12:20am On Aug 16, 2016
Growing blocks

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Re: **the Making Of 2storey Building (12 Flats) Of One Bedroom Apartment In Enugu** by jman77(m): 1:09am On Aug 16, 2016
Nice job
Re: **the Making Of 2storey Building (12 Flats) Of One Bedroom Apartment In Enugu** by dubemcapital(m): 6:18am On Aug 16, 2016
free2blast:
CONGRATS, MINIMUM SPACE UTILIZED MAXIMALLY.


You are welcome.
Re: **the Making Of 2storey Building (12 Flats) Of One Bedroom Apartment In Enugu** by dubemcapital(m): 6:27am On Aug 16, 2016
mixratio:
You didn't use a dpm despite the very obvious water logged nature of your site. May I ask why?

the dpc used in this project is a sizeable loomp stone. I also made a very high foundation as one of the best ways to control damp. No DPM applied because I am very okay with the DPC measure. Thanks
Re: **the Making Of 2storey Building (12 Flats) Of One Bedroom Apartment In Enugu** by dubemcapital(m): 6:30am On Aug 16, 2016
popefrank2016:
[color=#006600][/color]This is a big task, it once happened to me! But in mai own, the foundation collapsed and we started all over again!!! Its an experienced Engr. To do a nice work there!! Kudos

Thank you boss, we give God the glory.
Re: **the Making Of 2storey Building (12 Flats) Of One Bedroom Apartment In Enugu** by dubemcapital(m): 6:34am On Aug 16, 2016
EgunMogaji:


El Maestro, i come to learn.

Why wasn't a dpc applied in this aqua prone area?

Thanks for good question, it was applied, high foundation is one of the best DPC, hardcore too, Even polyethylene sheet DPM as one of DPC measures but didn't use it here.

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Re: **the Making Of 2storey Building (12 Flats) Of One Bedroom Apartment In Enugu** by dubemcapital(m): 7:19am On Aug 16, 2016
power900:
hmmmm, I have read all through line by line and from my little experience, there is a serious unprofessional work going on here, with that kind of water hovering around this place, strip foundation is not an option,not at all, its not like I am seeing red sand to be sure that its manageable.... again look the way the block work goes deep into the soil, if the rooms are compacted, wouldn't that case any consolidation or worse a parsive force on the party walls in the substructure?

not to challenged your expertize though but just thinking out loud too,okay

Thank you for that good thought. Well if you take a good look at the soil layers you will notice that the more it goes down the stronger it becomes irrespective of the water in the ground, now we had a pre-cast of about 6" to 8" before placing the bar mat (baskets)two baskets per pillar, one as a bed and the other a as a carrier after which we cast AGAIN up to 1ft 6" and got the same level in all the strips. the initial depth of the footing was 1.4m but after the cast work we had about 0.63m or lesser than that so the blocks in the foundation will definitely look shallow but we all knows that block is brace stud in foundations and for demarcation after dpc. pillars are the load bearers. After which we have to chain the entire foundation up here with 16mm bars right round and intermediately too, Nevertheless, the foundation and the work we have done here is very Good and will stand the test of time sir. Thank you sir

Re: **the Making Of 2storey Building (12 Flats) Of One Bedroom Apartment In Enugu** by dubemcapital(m): 7:50am On Aug 16, 2016
iamademola:
well done sir, but may i ask, how do you stop or rectify the hole/holes where the ground water is coming out into the trench?. because to me there seems to be an aquifer.


grin No aquifer can be as shallow as that, any ways we seal off the hole with concrete cast and filling so they stopped.
Re: **the Making Of 2storey Building (12 Flats) Of One Bedroom Apartment In Enugu** by mixratio(m): 7:57am On Aug 16, 2016
dubemcapital:


the dpm used in this project is a sizeable loomp stone. I also made a very high foundation as one of the best ways to control damp.
that's nice. Please could you enlighten me about the SIZEABLE LOOMP STONE?
Re: **the Making Of 2storey Building (12 Flats) Of One Bedroom Apartment In Enugu** by zealed64: 8:08pm On Aug 17, 2016
this is lovely.
Re: **the Making Of 2storey Building (12 Flats) Of One Bedroom Apartment In Enugu** by dubemcapital(m): 9:07pm On Aug 17, 2016
zealed64:
this is lovely.




Thank you sir
Re: **the Making Of 2storey Building (12 Flats) Of One Bedroom Apartment In Enugu** by dubemcapital(m): 2:16am On Aug 18, 2016
StDonE:
This is definitely Nike in Enugu. That area is full of water. I was building a three storey at Onungene precisely in 2014 around d same time of August and we met a terrible water that was flooding the whole of foundation. And because of d nature of the water there, we needed heavy reinforcement. So at the end; I had spent abt N10 million just from foundation to the first floor. It was a sad experience that I regretted buying the land


Congrats, is not easy to build around there, I know unungene axis very well infact accross that little lake is something else nothing works theere except raft foundation because of the swampy nature of the area and the soil too is something else.
Re: **the Making Of 2storey Building (12 Flats) Of One Bedroom Apartment In Enugu** by dubemcapital(m): 2:19am On Aug 18, 2016
LondonCool:
Well done. Are there any picture updates on the progress so far?

Did you engage a Structural Engineer at any stage of the building work?


Yes, of course we have one.
Re: **the Making Of 2storey Building (12 Flats) Of One Bedroom Apartment In Enugu** by innovestor(m): 3:18am On Aug 18, 2016
olumide4christ:


Internal partition walls are necessary. You are right about the fact that in a framed structure, only the pillars (columns) & beams bear the load of the building & transfer it to the foundation. However, it should be noted that in a framed structure building, partition walls above the ground floor bed (or dpc), though they don't carry the load of the building, also exert their own weight on the floor bed (or dpc). As such, if there are no corresponding partition walls in the foundation to counteract the pressure exerted by the weight of the partition walls above the dpc, the walls above the dpc would create a 'punching' effect on the dpc, thereby causing cracks on the dpc along the lines of the walls. I saw this happen in an estate in Abuja sometime last year.

I hope you understand my explanation. I would have done a small sketch, scanned & attached it for you to understand better but I'm on site now & can't do that. Its a structural issue which can only be fully explained using structural jargons & detailing.

Thanks so much. i understand your explanation and the risk perfectly well. I am only trying to see areas where "traditional works" are given reasons and where those reasons do not suffice, should be done away with to reduce the cost of building.

However, can there possibly any cheaper alternatives to this such are making absolutely sure that there is proper compaction of the sand:stone mix used prior to casting the DPC?
Re: **the Making Of 2storey Building (12 Flats) Of One Bedroom Apartment In Enugu** by Donchuks023(m): 1:25pm On Aug 18, 2016
can we see d floor plancan we see d floor plancan we see d floor plan
Re: **the Making Of 2storey Building (12 Flats) Of One Bedroom Apartment In Enugu** by dubemcapital(m): 5:11am On Aug 19, 2016
Donchuks023:
can we see d floor plancan we see d floor plancan we see d floor plan


Sorry, that will be with the permission of the client.
Re: **the Making Of 2storey Building (12 Flats) Of One Bedroom Apartment In Enugu** by dubemcapital(m): 6:06am On Aug 19, 2016
donbenedict:
I cover the foundations of that house with the Power of Jesus. Amen



Engr Dumbemcapital, carry on! wink cool





Have you done forecasting on the building? Foundations sink u knw.. with time when the formation underneath is continually disturbed with water.


Amen O! Yes, It has been taken care of




Amen!!! My brother grin grin grin
Re: **the Making Of 2storey Building (12 Flats) Of One Bedroom Apartment In Enugu** by dubemcapital(m): 7:20am On Aug 19, 2016
noble71:
Nice design bro. but I don't support this your strip foundation in a water logged area. reinforced strip foundation would have been better or raft foundation if you have the money. to avoid stories that touch.

Civil Engineer Speaking......



.....Thank you for that good idea. Well Co-Engr. if you take a good look at the soil layers you will notice that the more it goes deep the stronger it becomes, Which shows that is not a stratum Or a re-filled soil. so I decided to go on with strap but in a reinforced aggregate, now we had a pre-cast of about 6" to 8" (dry mixture all through) before the installation of the baskets, two baskets per pillar for the 46pillars, one as a bed and the other a as a carrier after which we cast up to 1ft 6" over the pillars and got the same level in all the straps, that is strap reinforcement as it implies which claimed up to 385 bags of ibeto cement. the initial depth of the footing was 1400m but after the cast work we had about 600m or less than that which I know is better than raft in this context, that is the reason why the blocks in the foundation looks shallow but blocks we know is brace stud in foundations and just a demarcation after dpc. pillars are the load bearers. After which we have to chain the entire foundation up here with 16mm right round and intermediately.

Am not the type of Engineer that will jump into raft because of fear or because people raft their foundation, I think I should be able to first of all find out the kind of soup (challenge) available, only then will I be able to know the kind of Swallow (solution) that will go with it. Weather pounded yam or Fufu.

Yes because it has become a tradition In construction that the measurement are 2 or 4 head pans higher or lesser than each other when it comes to sand and stone etc. but I disagree with that. when you inspect (examine) the work, you as a professional will know The best Approach that is going to suit it. Its very simple. I Am not traditional Engineer but a construction Engineer. Thanks

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Re: **the Making Of 2storey Building (12 Flats) Of One Bedroom Apartment In Enugu** by noble71(m): 8:02pm On Aug 20, 2016
dubemcapital:




.....Thank you for that good idea. Well Co-Engr. if you take a good look at the soil layers you will notice that the more it goes deep the stronger it becomes, Which shows that is not a stratum Or a re-filled soil. so I decided to go on with strap but in a reinforced aggregate, now we had a pre-cast of about 6" to 8" (dry mixture all through) before the installation of the baskets, two baskets per pillar for the 46pillars, one as a bed and the other a as a carrier after which we cast up to 1ft 6" over the pillars and got the same level in all the straps, that is strap reinforcement as it implies which claimed up to 385 bags of ibeto cement. the initial depth of the footing was 1400m but after the cast work we had about 600m or less than that which I know is better than raft in this context, that is the reason why the blocks in the foundation looks shallow but blocks we know is brace stud in foundations and just a demarcation after dpc. pillars are the load bearers. After which we have to chain the entire foundation up here with 16mm right round and intermediately.

Am not the type of Engineer that will jump into raft because of fear or because people raft their foundation, I think I should be able to first of all find out the kind of soup (challenge) available, only then will I be able to know the kind of Swallow (solution) that will go with it. Weather pounded yam or Fufu.

Yes because it has become a tradition In construction that the measurement are 2 or 4 head pans higher or lesser than each other when it comes to sand and stone etc. but I disagree with that. when you inspect (examine) the work, you as a professional will know The best Approach that is going to suit it. Its very simple. I Am not traditional Engineer but a construction Engineer. Thanks


With you explanations fellow Engr. I think you are good to go!

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Re: **the Making Of 2storey Building (12 Flats) Of One Bedroom Apartment In Enugu** by dubemcapital(m): 4:28am On Aug 22, 2016
mixratio:
that's nice. Please could you enlighten me about the SIZEABLE LOOMP STONE?



Loomps as my tiper Drivers call it, is a sizable stone that is used for dpc before the dpc concrete cast. It also serves as a reinforcement. It should be "rump stone" anyway.

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Re: **the Making Of 2storey Building (12 Flats) Of One Bedroom Apartment In Enugu** by azz19: 10:11am On Aug 22, 2016
Pls is there any trend I can get information about electrical services. I want to know the latest in the aspect.
Re: **the Making Of 2storey Building (12 Flats) Of One Bedroom Apartment In Enugu** by dubemcapital(m): 4:47am On Aug 24, 2016
azz19:
Pls is there any trend I can get information about electrical services. I want to know the latest in the aspect.


https://www.nairaland.com/2683767/interview-invite-ikeja-electric-customer

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Re: **the Making Of 2storey Building (12 Flats) Of One Bedroom Apartment In Enugu** by dubemcapital(m): 4:52am On Aug 24, 2016
The pillars and lintels wood work ongoing...

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