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Re: Reasons Why God Is Not Subject To His Own Laws ! by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:23pm On Aug 25, 2016
PastorAIO:


He misses every idea.

from someone who just asked if an explosion is intelligent
Re: Reasons Why God Is Not Subject To His Own Laws ! by PastorAIO: 12:31pm On Aug 25, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


from someone who just asked if an explosion is intelligent

Another idea you missed
Re: Reasons Why God Is Not Subject To His Own Laws ! by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:34pm On Aug 25, 2016
PastorAIO:


Another idea you missed

You look at things from a different perspective as a pantheist . So tell me the idea I missed.
Re: Reasons Why God Is Not Subject To His Own Laws ! by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:41pm On Aug 25, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Yup

1. Since he is eternal and has no provenance , then He has always been intelligent . Same with every other attributes like consciousness , emotions , prescience etc .

2. You stated clearly that intelligence is the capability to process information - this implies receiving new information and then understanding it . But since God is omniscient - has knows everything ab aeterno praeterita , praesenti et de futuro - whatever information there is , is known by Him ergo he always had the capacity to have all information .

I hope my points are perspicuous enough

@ PastorAIO - no response ?
Re: Reasons Why God Is Not Subject To His Own Laws ! by MrMontella(m): 12:45pm On Aug 25, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


God is three entities
three entities regarded as one or three?
Is ur god based on monotheism or polytheism?
Im asking why u eliminated polytheism...
Re: Reasons Why God Is Not Subject To His Own Laws ! by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:52pm On Aug 25, 2016
MrMontella:

three entities regarded as one or three?
Is ur god based on monotheism or polytheism?
Im asking why u eliminated polytheism...

Polytheism - pantheon of gods or many gods

Monotheism - one God

One God in Christianity = Yahweh , Yeshua and Ruach Hakodesh

In Christianity , its not a pantheon of gods because its one God in three persons .
Re: Reasons Why God Is Not Subject To His Own Laws ! by MrMontella(m): 1:20pm On Aug 25, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Polytheism - pantheon of gods or many gods

Monotheism - one God

One God in Christianity = Yahweh , Yeshua and Ruach Hakodesh

In Christianity , its not a pantheon of gods because its one God in three persons .
i am saying.
Why is it that such a complex thing such as the universe would arise from just one creator god?
And not a race of creators? Each creator distinct to his own field(something like that)
Re: Reasons Why God Is Not Subject To His Own Laws ! by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:26pm On Aug 25, 2016
MrMontella:

i am saying.
Why is it that such a complex thing such as the universe would arise from just one creator god?
And not a race of creators? Each creator distinct to his own field(something like that)

That's why we have faith .
Re: Reasons Why God Is Not Subject To His Own Laws ! by MrPresident1: 6:29pm On Aug 25, 2016
MrMontella:

i am saying.
Why is it that such a complex thing such as the universe would arise from just one creator god?
And not a race of creators? Each creator distinct to his own field(something like that)

Together, they are called God. The One True God. grin
Re: Reasons Why God Is Not Subject To His Own Laws ! by MrMontella(m): 7:17pm On Aug 25, 2016
MrPresident1:


Together, they are called God. The One True God. grin
u missed the story...re-read...u will grab the idea
Re: Reasons Why God Is Not Subject To His Own Laws ! by MrPresident1: 7:41pm On Aug 25, 2016
MrMontella:

u missed the story...re-read...u will grab the idea

Wetin dey worry this one? E be like say head dey pain you. I am one of the ancestors of this thread, check the opening pages for my contributions.

Christ made an open show of principalities and powers Colossians 2:15 grin
Re: Reasons Why God Is Not Subject To His Own Laws ! by MrMontella(m): 8:38pm On Aug 25, 2016
MrPresident1:


Wetin dey worry this one? E be like say head dey pain you. I am one of the ancestors of this thread, check the opening pages for my contributions.

Christ made an open show of principalities and powers Colossians 2:15 grin
like i said...do not rush..
I clearly stated what i meant..
So go back and re-read
Re: Reasons Why God Is Not Subject To His Own Laws ! by MrPresident1: 8:52pm On Aug 25, 2016
MrMontella:

like i said...do not rush..
I clearly stated what i meant..
So go back and re-read
Re: Reasons Why God Is Not Subject To His Own Laws ! by MrPresident1: 8:55pm On Aug 25, 2016
MrMontella:

like i said...do not rush..
I clearly stated what i meant..
So go back and re-read

Just like I told you, I am one of the ancestors on this thread when it was very hot. You are the dolt who should read up what your betters have written.

Weasel! Dirty sleazy scoundrel!
Re: Reasons Why God Is Not Subject To His Own Laws ! by Kay17: 6:59am On Aug 26, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Infinite regression .

God dwells in a different dimension where the law of cause and effect do not exist . Heaven does not exist in this universe .

Beautiful answer. You said God dwells in a different dimension where the law of cause and effect doesn't exist.

1. You concede to a dimension without causality which can apply in a vast array of circumstances. Just as God need not be caused, an alternate universe or a multiverse need not be caused as well for the same reason.

2. An entity in a dimension without causality is hardly able to influence causality at all. What's your explanation for God's ability to cause the heavenly realms and the Universe?
Re: Reasons Why God Is Not Subject To His Own Laws ! by PastorAIO: 9:11am On Aug 26, 2016
Kay17:


Beautiful answer. You said God dwells in a different dimension where the law of cause and effect doesn't exist.

1. You concede to a dimension without causality which can apply in a vast array of circumstances. Just as God need not be caused, an alternate universe or a multiverse need not be caused as well for the same reason.

2. An entity in a dimension without causality is hardly able to influence causality at all. What's your explanation for God's ability to cause the heavenly realms and the Universe?

I wonder how long it's going to take you to realise that you shouldn't take the guy seriously. He doesn't know what he's talking about or what the terms he is using mean.

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Re: Reasons Why God Is Not Subject To His Own Laws ! by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:44am On Aug 26, 2016
Kay17:


Beautiful answer. You said God dwells in a different dimension where the law of cause and effect doesn't exist.

1. You concede to a dimension without causality which can apply in a vast array of circumstances. Just as God need not be caused, an alternate universe or a multiverse need not be caused as well for the same reason.

Universes don't have the propensity for that but its a chimerical belief atheists have though . . God is the precursor of everything that exists .

2. An entity in a dimension without causality is hardly able to influence causality at all. What's your explanation for God's ability to cause the heavenly realms and the Universe?

Omnipotence -God is all powerful ... remember ?
Re: Reasons Why God Is Not Subject To His Own Laws ! by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:53am On Aug 26, 2016
PastorAIO:


I wonder how long it's going to take you to realise that you shouldn't take the guy seriously. He doesn't know what he's talking about or what the terms he is using mean.

You said that to JoshTheFirst , UyiIredia , etc . Only PastorAIO who asked if explosions are intelligent knows everything or what he's talking about
Re: Reasons Why God Is Not Subject To His Own Laws ! by PastorAIO: 1:58pm On Aug 26, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


You said that to JoshTheFirst , UyiIredia , etc . Only PastorAIO who asked if explosions are intelligent knows everything or what he's talking about

Una plenty!! Though I don't think I said so to UyiIredia.

**** You cannot, if you are logical, judge that somebody 'knows everything', or thinks he 'knows everthing', on the basis of a QUESTION he asked.

Someone who asks questions obviously doesn't know everything. This is basis common sense. The person who knows expounds. He doesn't ask. Can you now see how stupid you are by trying to claim that I think I know everything because I asked a question?


This is part of your failings in your attempts to impress us with an intelligence that you so patently lack. And just when we think you cannot possibly say anything more stupid than your last comment you awe and shock us with a more abysmal examples of your stupidity.


But leave that aside for now, there is one question I want to ask you.

When you wake up in the morning and you look for a new polysyllabic word to learn and use, as you have told us you do every mornning, What is your motive for learning the word, and what is your motive when you use the word?

Here are some possible reasons you might want to expand your vocabulary:

1) you hope to be better able to communicate your ideas so that people can understand you better.
In this case it helps to seek words that are in common usage so that the people being communicated with can understand.

2) You just like to be verbose in the mistaken belief that it makes you more intelligent.

3) a variation of 2, You like to be verbose in the hope that though You are indubitably stupid you hope to pull the wool over some people eyes and deceive them into thinking you have intelligence.

I believe your case is a combination of 2 and 3.

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Re: Reasons Why God Is Not Subject To His Own Laws ! by Ranchhoddas: 2:09pm On Aug 26, 2016
PastorAIO:


Una plenty!! Though I don't think I said so to UyiIredia.

Let me give you an example of your rank stupidity. You cannot, if you are logical, judge that somebody 'knows everything', or thinks he 'knows everthing', on the basis of a QUESTION he asked.

Someone who asks questions obviously doesn't know everything. This is basis common sense. The person who knows expounds. He doesn't ask. Can you now see how stupid you are by trying to claim that I think I know everything because I asked a question?


This is part of your failings in your attempts to impress us with an intelligence that you so patently lack. And just when we think you cannot possibly say anything more stupid than your last comment you awe and shock us with a more abysmal examples of your stupidity.


But leave that aside for now, there is one question I want to ask you.

When you wake up in the morning and you look for a new polysyllabic word to learn and use, as you have told us you do every mornning, What is your motive for learning the word, and what is your motive when you use the word?

Here are some possible reasons you might want to expand your vocabulary:

1) you hope to be better able to communicate your ideas so that people can understand you better.
In this case it helps to seek words that are in common usage so that the people being communicated with can understand.

2) You just like to be verbose in the mistaken belief that it makes you more intelligent.

3) a variation of 2, You like to be verbose in the hope that though You are indubitably stupid you hope to pull the wool over some people eyes and deceive them into thinking you have intelligence.

I believe your case is a combination of 2 and 3.

Hahahahaaahaahaha. See finishing! That guy no get respect for elders.
Re: Reasons Why God Is Not Subject To His Own Laws ! by PastorAIO: 2:14pm On Aug 26, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
You are the only person I know who insists on curing ignorance with more ignorance...and big grammar.

KingEbukasBlog:



We can continue this discussion like intellectuals without disdain here

https://www.nairaland.com/3286519/communist-leaders-killed-millions-because

The word is part of my new words for the month, I had to use it grin
Re: Reasons Why God Is Not Subject To His Own Laws ! by KingEbukasBlog(m): 2:25pm On Aug 26, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
Hahahahaaahaahaha. See finishing! That guy no get respect for elders.


That guy has issues in life and he wants to pour all his anger on me cheesy cheesy

PastorAIO , messenger of Spinoza's god , explain why you asked if an explosion is intelligent cheesy

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Re: Reasons Why God Is Not Subject To His Own Laws ! by Ranchhoddas: 3:00pm On Aug 26, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:



That guy has issues in life and he wants to pour all his anger on me cheesy cheesy

PastorAIO , messenger of Spinoza's god , explain why you asked if an explosion is intelligent cheesy
I see you haven't learnt your lesson. Respect your elders. That's how to learn.
Re: Reasons Why God Is Not Subject To His Own Laws ! by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:15pm On Aug 26, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
I see you haven't learnt your lesson. Respect your elders. That's how to learn.

He's so angry because I mocked him - very immature bloke . You don't ask ineffably stupid questions , make daft conclusions and quote irrelevant bible passages - he has a wont for those - and then pride yourself as an intelligent person , I'll mock you till you wish for death .

Pooh-poohing someone's argument is fallacious . He claims the answers are absurd without proof cheesy .

PastorAIO is a butt-hurt atheist purporting himself as a pantheist to appear smart .

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Re: Reasons Why God Is Not Subject To His Own Laws ! by Kay17: 5:14pm On Aug 26, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Universes don't have the propensity for that but its a chimerical belief atheists have though . . God is the precursor of everything that exists .



Omnipotence -God is all powerful ... remember ?

Why should a Universe or any other entity in a dimension without causality, be caused?
Re: Reasons Why God Is Not Subject To His Own Laws ! by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:22pm On Aug 26, 2016
Kay17:


Why should a Universe or any other entity in a dimension without causality, be caused?

Huh ?
Re: Reasons Why God Is Not Subject To His Own Laws ! by Kay17: 6:41pm On Aug 26, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Huh ?

If you followed the trail of back and forth messages carefully, you would find that you made an argument that God was uncaused because he was within a dimension that lacked causality. I went a step further and asked if entities like a Universe or multiverse in a dimension without causality would be uncaused as well
Re: Reasons Why God Is Not Subject To His Own Laws ! by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:37pm On Aug 26, 2016
Kay17:


If you followed the trail of back and forth messages carefully, you would find that you made an argument that God was uncaused because he was within a dimension that lacked causality. I went a step further and asked if entities like a Universe or multiverse in a dimension without causality would be uncaused as well

No . Why do you think this question is important ?
Re: Reasons Why God Is Not Subject To His Own Laws ! by Kay17: 9:16pm On Aug 26, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


No . Why do you think this question is important ?

The same way all questions on Nairaland are important
Re: Reasons Why God Is Not Subject To His Own Laws ! by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:26pm On Aug 26, 2016
Kay17:


The same way all questions on Nairaland are important

Then words like "irrelevant" , "unnecessary " should not exist
Re: Reasons Why God Is Not Subject To His Own Laws ! by Kay17: 5:07pm On Aug 27, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Then words like "irrelevant" , "unnecessary " should not exist
....

You haven't still answered the question
Re: Reasons Why God Is Not Subject To His Own Laws ! by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:42pm On Aug 29, 2016
Kay17:
....

You haven't still answered the question

I answered it , "no" was my answer

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