africaken254:
that is just pure extortion,we need to seriously pursue Indigenisation to the point we start threatening the market share of those traditionally known arms manufacturers

Henry240:


It is complete madness. How can anyone ask for that much money to only look at a problem. Hypothetically speaking, if the NAF had gone ahead with those contractors, they would have even billed us much more to have eastern bloc equipment on our western bloc aircraft. That's if they would agree to use eastern block equipment.


As a continent, we have no choice but to actively pursue indigenisation. Especially in the areas of land systems, Air defences and Air-to-Ground weapons. If we do not make these efforts now, we would continue to lose.


Also in Ocean going/sea keeping platforms. The vessels bought by senegal, OPV45 & OPV190 are too small to be awarding to foreign vendors.

Basic configurations of 45 meters and 58 meters vessels, Only armed with 20 mm cannons. These are the sort of projects that should be awarded to local companies, or you have those foreign companies come build them here.

Henry240:


It is complete madness. How can anyone ask for that much money to only look at a problem. Hypothetically speaking, if the NAF had gone ahead with those contractors, they would have even billed us much more to have eastern bloc equipment on our western bloc aircraft. That's if they would agree to use eastern block equipment.


As a continent, we have no choice but to actively pursue indigenisation. Especially in the areas of land systems, Air defences and Air-to-Ground weapons. If we do not make these efforts now, we would continue to lose.


Also in Ocean going/sea keeping platforms. The vessels bought by senegal, OPV45 & OPV190 are too small to be awarding to foreign vendors.

Basic configurations of 45 meters and 58 meters vessels, Only armed with 20 mm cannons. These are the sort of projects that should be awarded to local companies, or you have those foreign companies come build them here.

craziebone:


you are now begining to agree with me when i mentioned it here several years ago that we need to begin to do research on making military hardwares based on our own specifications and environment. I suggested we can put about 20bn dollar into a 20 years research to make all these things possible.

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMq16Pxfn7A

africaken254:
this is actual the full video,that convoy was supposed to reinforce or extract a couple of saudi soldiers in a small out post which was under attack by the houthi .it looks like even the humvee was not able to get away

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY7sdmLD864&sns=tw

Henry240:
Senegalese navy OPV45

africaken254:
we are now buying hardware from eastern bloc countries who just recently were facing economic collapse after the fall of USSR, civil wars and border wars e.g Yugoslavia ,Croatia,ukraine,russia bulgaria e.t.c we need to end this culture of just buy,buy,buy .just someone to get kickbacks.the problem is this old generation,african youths are more progressive,innovative and creative

off topic :this kenya electronic engineer student made a quad copter drone,which was used in a research to identify variety of potatoes in tanzania but is not legally allowed to fly his quad copter drone in kenya. this is what frustrate some of our best mind,who opt to head to the west.do you know an israel engineer frustrate with the slow drone development and bureaucracy in israel,immigrated to america where with funding from DARPA built a UAV which resemble the predator UAV. general atomic bought his company after it went bankrupt but employed him.he is actually the one who designed the predator UAV

Henry240:


It is complete madness. How can anyone ask for that much money to only look at a problem. Hypothetically speaking, if the NAF had gone ahead with those contractors, they would have even billed us much more to have eastern bloc equipment on our western bloc aircraft. That's if they would agree to use eastern block equipment.


As a continent, we have no choice but to actively pursue indigenisation. Especially in the areas of land systems, Air defences and Air-to-Ground weapons. If we do not make these efforts now, we would continue to lose.


Also in Ocean going/sea keeping platforms. The vessels bought by senegal, OPV45 & OPV190 are too small to be awarding to foreign vendors.

Basic configurations of 45 meters and 58 meters vessels, Only armed with 20 mm cannons. These are the sort of projects that should be awarded to local companies, or you have those foreign companies come build them here.

andrewza:



The next big one should be a joint African Project of some kind. Maybe could invest in developing communication sytem since it all ways the thing that makes joint ops harder.

MikeCZA:
Nice!

Henry240:
Nigerian Navy NNS Obuma, Decommissioned Navy Corvette

frumentius:


And yet perfidious politicians with an eye on kick-backs kibosh all those initiatives. The number of times Denel has been rebuffed by African countries, offering exactly what you suggest, is no longer a laughing matter. For example, Nigeria's DICON was offered 51% co-production rights on the Casspir NG2000. DICON and your military were keen, the then in-coming Jonathan administration killed the idea. Denel went on to produce it themselves and DICON lost out on all those export orders. And then you went on to buy the inferior SA designed Bigfoot!

Henry240:


If military leaders can cooperate more, political leaders would naturally fall in line. How many times do African countries train together? I have never seen a Nigerian soldier train with a South-African, infact it had to take the intervention of the US to have a Nigerian train with a Camerounian,yeah....... We have our historical differences but, it shouldn't deter our collective national security.


Joint projects can work, if the so called big nations want to see it work.

MikeCZA:
Quick reaction. A capability we Africans need to develop too.

I wonder why they didn't fight back when bullet started flying instead of speeding.

andrewza:



The next big one should be a joint African Project of some kind. Maybe could invest in developing communication sytem since it all ways the thing that makes joint ops harder.

Henry240:
Nigerian navy NNS Karaduwa (P102)

The main gun looks to me like a 30mm RWS.

frumentius:


There was an AU seminar of African Defence Chiefs recently in Addis Ababa where the idea of a "Link Africa" was an agenda item. JOps guys working on CNIS, CSIR, Armscor etc were invited to give input on how Link-ZA could be expanded into a continent-wide standard.
Considering it took the EU 2 decades for Link 16 (Never mind how we got hold of Link 11 ), I'm not overly optimistic.

Besides, what's the point when of the 5 regional brigades, only the southern and east African are fully operational.

frumentius:


Nice to see you guys continue with Denel guns on your patrol boats.

andrewza:


Because they Arab solders.


Sa responed prety fast to the CAR mess.

MikeCZA:
The Rooikat armoured fighting vehicle.

Kind of replaced the Eland vehicle. Hopefully our defence industry will position themselves for the replacement of the Rooikat and providing a light armour capability which was lost when the Eland was retired.

Mounting of the 90mm gun on the Ratel still has people saying the the newer ICV(Badger) is lightly armed. Mechanized Infantry and armour requirements mixed up.

ViceAdmiral:
Namibian Armed Forces

MikeCZA:
New parachuting system.

The commander handing over the system to his "boss" might possibility be the new SASFB GOC.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=1uKniZl2o5w

MikeCZA:
New parachuting system.

The commander handing over the system to his "boss" might possibility be the new SASFB GOC.

MikeCZA:
It isn't about being Arab.

But poor training, doctrine, SOPs etc.

In CAR we were lucky that we had our well trained units on the ground. When deploying heavier forces or regular units I believe we will need a fire force kind of rapid response unit attached to them along side our version of the USAF para rescue chaps(7 med group).

It is not something new here in Africa to have rebel forces supported by certain countries.

Ambushes will be manned by determined forces under supervision and support of foreign officers.

andrewza:




Your airforce is here and i have seen nigerians do our courses and i think we send officers to each other.


All ways seemed strage we did not do a exersize with your OPV when it was enroute to Nigeria or train with you when you when going to Aussie fleet review. Waisted optunties.



But in general we should look at getting a good coms sytem for the African stand By force. South Africa and Namibia both make great radio's and i am sure we could modfie Link ZA to make a Link AU with a ops center in each regional block.


In one of the reports i read from the US and SA war games the Op For guys where able to exploit the poor coms between the US and SA forces. In the end a US captain joined the SA side so that the two groups could work together. The coms was a biger issue than the diffrince in training, doctrine and gear.