oglalasioux:


Let me answer you; the big bang created Hydrogen atoms. There's no doubt that there's a power behind the big bang. But the bible lied about creation. Burning furnaces of Hydrogen atoms created everything. I mean EVERYTHING! The biblical god is not responsible for creation. If he was, the bible would have told us how Hydrogen created everything instead of the Adam and Eve fable. Since the bible itself was confused about creation until Galileo turned his telescope to the heavens, why should we believe anything in it?

Going by your statement sir,who do you think is the power behind the big bang if it all it is true.

Everything about God is tyranny just like the premise of this article.Why MUST the nephew believe what his uncle believes?
Why is he not allowed to form his own opinion?

Because God is all about bullying and brainwashing which is best accomplished before people learn how to think

wirinet:

Hydrogen ( a single proton) is the primary constituent of the material universe, it was created as a result of the cooling and condensation of the intense energy of the big bang. All other matter was formed inside suns as a result of nuclear fussion of the single proton into progressively heavier elements ( including oxygen) until we get to uranium. These heavier elements are then ejected when a sun goes nova and is used as raw materials for the formation of other stars and their planetary systems.

So who initiated the nuclear fission?

DBriteLitehouse:


So who initiated the nuclear fission?

Why who? why not what? Why must there be a who?
at any rate it is more honest to say we don't know than to invent a God as the answer

there is no God ;Dif u like attack me or you show me proof pls dont tell me bible stories

Thanks OP for bringing this.

It will be easy to explain the concept of God if you are a Muslim because the Qur'an has scientific facts that beat the test of time of any atheist reasoning.

The Christians on this forum are not helping because they're making reference to church which the boy's wisdom is above.

Let's use the miracle of Moses as an example: Moses split the sea to to rescue the children of Israel (historians and scientists have belief on this) . The question here is that can a man split a sea with a staff? If no, then the atheists should explain. If yes then there is a God.

If you need more examples that atheists can break with their logic then I will provide.

Before quoting me, know that you can see God, but his handiwork.

AnonyNymous:

1. Criss Angel is an illusionist. His tricks aren't real. He said so himself.

2. You said the holy spirit is the 'conscience'. What about African people before the British came? They had no conscience? They're all going to burn in hell? After all, to them, it was the right thing to murder and burn twins as protection from evil. And I'm sure you don't believe the holy spirit told them to do that

• You have to fully understand illusions before using or applying the term in any context.

• I didn't say the Holy Spirit is the conscience. I said the spirit in humans (that supposedly pricks them when they do wrong or applaud them when right) is what science termed conscience.

aribisala0:
Everything about God is tyranny just like the premise of this article.Why MUST the nephew believe what his uncle believes?
Why is he not allowed to form his own opinion?

Because God is all about bullying and brainwashing which is best accomplished before people learn how to think

like seriously

He needs special attention

aribisala0:
Why who? why not what? Why must there be a who?
at any rate it is more honest to say we don't know than to invent a God as the answer

I am asking the OP to let him know that the Big Bang Theory is just a figment of imagination of man.God's existence is for real.

247NewsUpdateNG:


• You have to fully understand illusions before using or applying the term in any context.

• I didn't say the Holy Spirit is the conscience. I said the spirit in humans (that supposedly pricks them when they do wrong or applaud them when right) is what science termed conscience.

• There's nothing ambiguous about the term 'illusion'. Its simply
"an instance of a wrong or misinterpreted perception of a sensory experience."
Criss Angel's illusions are televised events, so he uses technology and a few other tricks to achieve his.
Pastors who perform illusions might just have tricks up their sleeves, or might mess with your perception through things like hypnosis. Bottom line, illusions aren't real. So you can't use Criss Angel to prove that the 'supernatural' exists.

•Either way, our forefathers had their own perception of wrong and right and their 'conscience' pricked them when they did what was wrong,and made them relaxed when they killed twins.

DBriteLitehouse:


I am asking the OP to let him know that the Big Bang Theory is just a figment of imagination of man.God's existence is for real.

God is a figment of imagination,a perverse imagination by the way. There have been many editions of God through history . We are being tortured by the latest one from Mecca and Jerusalem which like all others before shall pass away

Femsmart:
Thanks OP for bringing this.

It will be easy to explain the concept of God if you are a Muslim because the Qur'an has scientific facts that beat the test of time of any atheist reasoning.

The Christians on this forum are not helping because they're making reference to church which the boy's wisdom is above.

Let's use the miracle of Moses as an example: Moses split the sea to to rescue the children of Israel (historians and scientists have belief on this) . The question here is that can a man split a sea with a staff? If no, then the atheists should explain. If yes then there is a God.

If you need more examples that atheists can break with their logic then I will provide.

Before quoting me, know that you can see God, but his handiwork.

First of all the internet is a truly great miracle which we experience daily. The tale of Moses is quite simply that a TALE . COMPLETE FICTION .
Miracles if they exist DO NOT PROVE GOD they only demonstrate the limits of the human brain.

If you are looking for miracles consider the Tale of Oduduwa and how he descended from heaven. All peoples all over the world have myths and legends. I wonder why Black people allow themselves to believe that the Hebrew legends have any more validity than their very own.
If you have any idea of the immensity of the Universe you will not think that even if a God is behind it he will concern himself with earth and after having made it so wondrous concern himself with parting seas so Hebrews can walk on dry land only to kill each and every single person that crossed that dry land in the desert

WinningSun:


Seun you are harbouring potential boko haram. this are worst beings.

I worship the Lord of Hosts. Who is your master? Name him!

Aaronsrod:

I worship the Lord of Hosts. Who is your master? Name him!

your god ordered you to beat a minor. something is wrong in your upstairs.

Stop trying to indoctrinate the kid. He has the right to not believe in God regardless of age.

Why is it difficut to admit there is no God.

If you are a Muslim you pry 5 times a day X 365 days a year maybe 40 years of your life = 14610 Prayers
+ fasting 1 month a year = 40 months .

It is psychologically almost impossible to accept that this has all been a waste of time.

The same is true for Christians , ALL THOSE TITHES!! Kai! not to mention night vigils and so on.

Ever encountered a person who has been hit by 419 . It takes a long time to accept. A part of them still believes that their money is on the way. That is the nature of the human psyche.
One thing is certain, in our hearts we all know there is no such thing as this God but are often so far gone it is difficult to admit. Also there are social consequences and punishments especially in Nigeria. That is how wicked these so called Christians and Muslims are . How dare you rebel? But it is important that it works that way otherwise the whole thing breaks down. That is how the CONTROL works. It makes sure you do not use your brains and obey like zombie
Let us examine the teachings of Jesus. and our Christian brothers. Jesus said love your brother as you love yourself,
he said do not stress about what you will eat does not your father feed the birds.

There is not a single Christian in Nigeria that follows these. Rather they are spiteful and fearful of their stomachs. Hypocrites all of them!!

musicwriter:


Again, I'm not part of the religious interpretation of God as religion doesn't explain God satisfactorily.

we are not talking about religious


I only asked you to explain your designer and "designee" you seemed o have figured out with your own "holy spirit"

WinningSun:


your god ordered you to beat a minor. something is wrong in your upstairs.

If you were a Christian you would not say this. You are not a Christian.

MutantMetahuman:
we are not talking about religious


I only asked you to explain your designer and "designee" you seemed o have figured out with your own "holy spirit"

The case for God makes sense to me because there's intelligence in nature. Intelligence does not come from a non intelligence.

musicwriter:


The case for God makes sense to me because there's intelligence in nature. Intelligence does not come from a non intelligence.

What do you mean by intelligence?
Can you define it so that in this discussion we all know what you mean?
However you define it we will find that there is "Intelligence" AND Non-Intelligence in Nature .in equal measure

The claim that intelligence does not come from Non intelligence where do you get that from? Why is it true? Because you like it as an idea?
The real question is whether or not there is God what does it or he have to do with us ? The answer is absolutely NOTHING!!
Whether or not there is a God what does it have to do with the Bible ,Quran and other religious practice. again NOTHING!!!

WinningSun:

you are in no position to condemn book haram as you are one yourself.

Ah, i was just trying to introduce Christ to a Lad here.

aribisala0:
What do you mean by intelligence?
Can you define it so that in this discussion we all know what you mean?
However you define it we will find that there is "Intelligence" AND Non-Intelligence in Nature .in equal measure

The claim that intelligence does not come from Non intelligence where do you get that from? Why is it true? Because you like it as an idea?
The real question is whether or not there is God what does it or he have to do with us ? The answer is absolutely NOTHING!!
Whether or not there is a God what does it have to do with the Bible ,Quran and other religious practice. again NOTHING!!!

Unfortunately, you grew up believing religion explains God, and every now and then you use religion to buttress your point, despite my telling you several times religion doesn't explain God satisfactorily.

God has nothing to do with religion.

I'm out.

DBriteLitehouse:


Going by your statement sir,who do you think is the power behind the big bang if it all it is true.

I mentioned my belief that a power is behind the big bang. Let's call that power God.

My point is; is the God of the big bang the same with the christian or Islamic God? My answer is NO and these are my reasons.

1. The first real evidence of the big bang was found in 1964. You can still see or hear the bang when your radio or tv is tuned away from broadcast channels. It's not speculation. Turn on your tv or radio to empty channel and see or hear it yourself. If it was the biblical or Koranic God that was behind the big bang, he must have revealed that to Moses and Mohammed. What the bible and Koran said about creation is far far from what science has found out with clear evidences.

2. God of the big bang who made over 200 billion galaxies; each galaxy is in turn made up of 400 individual stars. The distance between two stars, example, the nearest one to our solar system, alpha centauri, is at least 4.37 light years away. One light year looks like this in kilometers; 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. So a God who made such an astronomical universe will chose the Jews and the Arabs to administer the earth by bringing a vindictive religion that knows nothing more than killing each other, spreading hate and carrying out genocidal murder for him. I don't think so.

3. I believe there's a God behind the big bang but I can never believe the bible nor the Koran was dictated by him. I think mankind, especially the Jews, simply found out the laws of physics that govern the universe; gravity, electromagnetism and the nuclear forces and manipulated them to their whims then created a god whom they will claim gave them that power (same for traditional African religion).

4. The bible and Koran are the best hand books for killers, murderers and usurpers. It can never have been authored by a God who made the whole universe.

5. How we find the earth; natural disasters, diseases, wars, inequality, death etc are not as a result of Adam and Eve eating a forbidden fruit. When you know the history of the universe you'll know those flaws are inevitable. Take our solar system as an instance; out of the 8 planets, only earth could develop life because of it's distance from the sun. Everything in the universe is chance. Nothing anywhere is determining what or who we are. But the religions have taught us otherwise. It's erroneous to believe that a god somewhere will save a passenger out of a bus full and allow others perish in a road accident.

Let's take a breath.

musicwriter:


Unfortunately, you grew up believing religion explains God, and every now and then you use religion to buttress your point, despite my telling you several times religion doesn't explain God satisfactorily.

God has nothing to do with religion.

I'm out.

I tend to agree with you on your final statement and I find your petulant tone perplexing.Perhaps there is a comprehension problem somewhere.
I do not know what you possibly know about me to pronounce on how I grew up
Where or how have I used religion?

You made a statement about Intelligence and I simply asked for more clarification as a way of advancing discussion? What is "intelligence"?

Gpdwise:
I have been trying for the past three (3) hours now to explain the concept of God to my six year old half brother. who recently just returned from the states. I tried reading using the bible and he asked me the most difficult but simple question. Big brother where did God come from if you said there was nothing in world!! I dropped the bible immediately.

I tried using nature to explain that the beautiful flowers, birds and sea were created by God. Then he asked me who created God because mama bird and papa bird will have junior bird and for the flowers I need to plant its seed for them to grow.. so big brother who is papa God

One thing you definitely refuse to understand in all this is that you are the blind man here, trying to lead a man with two clear eyes.

Unfortunately it might take you two life times to know what I mean.

Gpdwise:
I have been trying for the past three (3) hours now to explain the concept of God to my six year old half brother. who recently just returned from the states. I tried reading using the bible and he asked me the most difficult but simple question. Big brother where did God come from if you said there was nothing in world!! I dropped the bible immediately.

I tried using nature to explain that the beautiful flowers, birds and sea were created by God. Then he asked me who created God because mama bird and papa bird will have junior bird and for the flowers I need to plant its seed for them to grow.. so big brother who is papa God

it does seem to me that 6 year old kid has more sense than you.



Hes also more logical than you in every way. You claim there is a god somewhere but how did he get there? Or you mean to tell him your God just popped up there with all the power he has not coming from another source?




Nonsense

coolebux:
Oya carry that pikin go una Church children department shapaly,

mek them use things like

The book of my Bible stories

Children's Bible

Christian songs

And Koboko (if need be)

Show am say Baba no be fake

But if to say the pikin been dey naija since, e for don know Baba God tey tey.

see dem. Religious zealots.



You guys are dinosaurs who should well and truly become a relic.



How has worshipping your fake God helped Nigeria? You all sleep and wake up in a mess of a country calling in a god who is not there

cliquevibes:
There are Questions about God that we humans cannot even fathom to ask not alone understand...

Jst put d boy in d children dept in ur church and by d time he relates with children his age and interact with them more, he will come around and have a different perspective...

wow! Same thing they did to you all your life.




So you're now suggesting the kid get brainwashed?



Bravo.



Seems you can't prove your god's exiatenso you want to make him believe by crook

AnonyNymous:

• There's nothing ambiguous about the term 'illusion'. Its simply
"an instance of a wrong or misinterpreted perception of a sensory experience."
Criss Angel's illusions are televised events, so he uses technology and a few other tricks to achieve his.
Pastors who perform illusions might just have tricks up their sleeves, or might mess with your perception through things like hypnosis. Bottom line, illusions aren't real. So you can't use Criss Angel to prove that the 'supernatural' exists.

•Either way, our forefathers had their own perception of wrong and right and their 'conscience' pricked them when they did what was wrong,and made them relaxed when they killed twins.

• Using Criss Angel as a reference was wrong.
What explanation do you have for soul travels?

• FYI, that inner spirit that told our forefathers that killing of twins was right is what science termed conscience.
PS, read through my first comment and try understanding my use of the term 'Conscience' in this situation.

Gpdwise:


am not here to start an argument what I want is just a simple way to explain God to a kid.. not about how atheists thinks I know how fulfilled I am being a Christain and I want my younger brother to enjoy the same feeling.

How can u explain an imaginary being. Do u reason at all?
And if u feel secured as a Christian, that only proves how insecure u really are.

DBriteLitehouse:


Going by your statement sir,who do you think is the power behind the big bang if it all it is true.

So if we don't know then we should fabricate one and call it "GOD " and beat everyone into acceptance of the idea