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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Peacefullove: 10:14pm On Sep 16, 2016
DoctorAlien:


Okay.

Let's start from Jesus' Name: His Name is Emmanuel, and it means "GOD with us". You get it? GOD Himself with us. smiley

Jn. 1:1 says Jesus Christ is GOD.

Jesus then proclaims: "I and My Father are One." (Jn. 10:30)

In Isa. 9:6 names like "Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty GOD, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace" which pertain only to GOD are applied to Jesus.

In Jn. 14:15, Jesus claims GOD's commandments as His own. That can only mean He is GOD. smiley

It may seem as if the Bible is contradictory in Jn. 17:3 when Jesus calls His Father the only true GOD. However, the "contradiction" disappears when one considers that Jesus says "I and My Father are One."

Common reason also demands that if Jesus is not the true GOD, then He is a false god. But we know that GOD does not recognise false gods. GOD even called Jesus GOD (Heb. 1:8 ) smiley

you have a very big problem , man ! where is the verse that said Jesus is the true God in this epistle ? NONE grin kindly admit Jesus is a false God alien doctor


o boy, the same bible in a verse I cant remember also call human beings Gods , in greek it will be theos , the same exact word for God , so he didnt recognize false gods , are this humans true god since he doesnt recognize false gods ?



Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 10:21pm On Sep 16, 2016
Peacefullove:

you have a very big problem , man ! where is the verse that said Jesus is the true God in this epistle ? NONE grin kindly admit Jesus is a false God alien doctor

o boy, the same bible in a verse I cant remember also call human beings Gods , in greek it will be theos , the same exact word for God , so he didnt recognize false gods , are this humans true god since he doesnt recognize false gods ?


You know that there is a difference between "Prove that" and "Show where it is written that"? smiley

The word "Trinity" is not in the Bible, but I can prove Trinity from the Bible.

I said I can prove Jesus is the true GOD, and you told me to do so. And I've done so.

Have you any more questions? smiley
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by barny95(m): 10:21pm On Sep 16, 2016
DoctorAlien:


What is GOD entitled to that Jesus is not entitled to?
mathew 4:10: Then Jesus said to him: “Go away, Satan! For it is written: ‘It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.

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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 10:29pm On Sep 16, 2016
barny95:
mathew 4:10: Then Jesus said to him: “Go away, Satan! For it is written: ‘It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.

Jesus also accepted worship. (See Matt. 14:33; 28:9)

GOD even commanded worship to Jesus (Heb. 1:8 ) but He forbids worship to anything but GOD. (Exod. 20:2-5, Rev. 14:7, Deut.6:13)

If Jesus accepted worship which clearly belongs to only GOD, what does it mean?
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Peacefullove: 10:32pm On Sep 16, 2016
DoctorAlien:


You know that there is a difference between "Prove that" and "Show where it is written that"? smiley

The word "Trinity" is not in the Bible, but I can prove Trinity from the Bible.

I said I can prove Jesus is the true GOD, and you told me to do so. And I've done so.

Have you any more questions? smiley

and that crap is what you called prove ?

besides this is what I said and which you quote

peacefullove
alien doctor , Point out where your bible talk sey Jesus na the true God ? is that tooo hard


am askin you to quote !

Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Peacefullove: 10:44pm On Sep 16, 2016
DoctorAlien:


Jesus also accepted worship. (See Matt. 14:33; 28:9)

GOD even commanded worship to Jesus (Heb. 1:cool but He forbids worship to anything but GOD. (Exod. 20:2-5, Rev. 14:7, Deut.6:13)


If Jesus accepted worship which clearly belongs to only GOD, what does it mean?

if God forbid worship to anything but himself then thats another bible contradiction, DANIEL accept worship .

Then King Nebuchadnezzar threw himself down before Daniel and worshiped him Daniel 2 vs 46

Daniel = God ? or how u wan take explain this one . mtcheew

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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 10:51pm On Sep 16, 2016
Peacefullove:


if God forbid worship to anything but himself then thats another bible contradiction, DANIEL accept worship .

Then King Nebuchadnezzar threw himself down before Daniel and worshiped him Daniel 2 vs 46

Daniel = God ? or how u wan take explain this one . mtcheew


I'm very sure Daniel never posed as GOD, or demanded worship. Nebuchadnezzar fell before Daniel in awe and wonder. Daniel explained to him that the source of the interpretation he gave was GOD. Daniel made it clear beyond doubt that GOD is the source of all He knows and was going to say. So, Nebuchadnezzar worshipping Daniel means he acknowledged the Spirit in Daniel.

Notice that Nebuchadnezzar acknowledged GOD in v.47 of Daniel 2.

People worshipped and even tried to sacrifice to Paul and Barnabas at Lystra, but they prevented the people. They pointed to GOD, who alone deserves worship. smiley
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Peacefullove: 10:57pm On Sep 16, 2016
DoctorAlien:


I'm very sure Daniel never posed as GOD, or demanded worship. Nebuchadnezzar fell before Daniel in awe and wonder. Daniel explained to him that the source of the interpretation he gave was GOD. Daniel made it clear beyond doubt that GOD is the source of all He knows and was going to say. So, Nebuchadnezzar worshipping Daniel means he acknowledged the Spirit in Daniel.


dont feed me with this crap again , did bible Jesus demand worship ? quote where he say worship me . quote


you want to deny Daniel the God title that belong to those who accept worship
grin ko le werk



People worshipped and even tried to sacrifice to Paul and Barnabas at Lystra, but they prevented the people. They pointed to GOD, who alone deserves worship. smiley

the text say the king worshiped him , who is the him ? DANIEL! but Daniel didnt prevent Nebuchadnezzar, did he ?


Daniel contradict God by accepting worship , didnt he ?
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 11:00pm On Sep 16, 2016
Peacefullove:


dont feed me with this crap again , did bible Jesus demand worship ? quote where he say worship me . quote


you want to deny Daniel the God title that belong to those who accept worship
grin ko le werk




but Daniel didnt prevent Nebuchadnezzar, did he ?

Even the Nebuchadnezzar that worshipped knew that Daniel was not GOD. Read Daniel 2:47 smiley
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Peacefullove: 11:05pm On Sep 16, 2016
DoctorAlien:


Even the Nebuchadnezzar that worshipped knew that Daniel was not GOD. Read Daniel 2:47 smiley
^^

the point is, Daniel accept worship and worship belongs to who ? cheesy
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Peacefullove: 11:09pm On Sep 16, 2016
^^ @ Doctoralien


peacefullove

alien doctor , Point out where your
bible talk sey Jesus na the true God ? is that tooo hard



Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 11:11pm On Sep 16, 2016
Peacefullove:

^^

the point is, Daniel accept worship and worship belongs to who ? cheesy

Daniel did not claim the worship that belongs to GOD. And Nebuchadnezzar acknowledged GOD. He even knew that it was GOD who gave the interpretation to Daniel. So, even Nebuchadnezzar knew who worship belongs to. Read Daniel 3:28-29. smiley
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 11:17pm On Sep 16, 2016
Peacefullove:
^^ @ Doctoralien

If I admit that the sentence "Jesus is the true GOD" is not in the Bible, will you tell me an attribute of the true GOD that Jesus does not have, since you search the Scriptures?
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by barny95(m): 11:17pm On Sep 16, 2016
DoctorAlien:


Jesus also accepted worship. (See Matt. 14:33; 28:9)

GOD even commanded worship to Jesus (Heb. 1:8 ) but He forbids worship to anything but GOD. (Exod. 20:2-5, Rev. 14:7, Deut.6:13)

If Jesus accepted worship which clearly belongs to only GOD, what does it mean?
At Matt. 14:33;28:9 check other versions of the Bible apart from the one you are using, u find out that it is either rendered "obeisance" or "bowed down" which a sign of respect not worship. You do obeisance 2 ur king or father doesn't mean u worship him. Meanwhile Matt. 28:9 says they took hold of his feet and did obeisance 2 Jesus_this is a customary way of greeting a master, teachers, parents and elders in the Palestine and among Indians. NORMS
as 2 heb.1:8 check other versions and translation u understand like yoruba, igbo. In some version it's read as : But about the Son, he says: “God is your throne forever and ever, and the scepter of your Kingdom is the scepter of uprightness." dis doesn't mean God commanded people to worship Jesus as u imply
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Peacefullove: 11:20pm On Sep 16, 2016
DoctorAlien:


Daniel did not claim the worship that belongs to GOD. And Nebuchadnezzar acknowledged GOD. He even knew that it was GOD who gave the interpretation to Daniel. So, even Nebuchadnezzar knew who worship belongs to. Read Daniel 3:28-29. smiley

^^

see the bold sha , which worship did he now claim according to Dan 2:46 ?
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 11:21pm On Sep 16, 2016
barny95:
At Matt. 14:33;28:9 check other versions of the Bible apart from the one you are using, u find out that it is either rendered "obeisance" or "bowed down" which a sign of respect not worship. You do obeisance 2 ur king or father doesn't mean u worship him. Meanwhile Matt. 28:9 says they took hold of his feet and did obeisance 2 Jesus_this is a customary way of greeting a master, teachers, parents and elders in the Palestine and among Indians. NORMS
as 2 heb.1:8 check other versions and translation u understand like yoruba, igbo. In some version it's read as : But about the Son, he says: “God is your throne forever and ever, and the scepter of your Kingdom is the scepter of uprightness." dis doesn't mean God commanded people to worship Jesus as u imply

I intended to quote Heb. 1:6. Sorry for that mistake.

Read and see that GOD commanded worship to Jesus.

Thomas called Jesus his GOD.(Jn. 20:28). Was Thomas wrong?
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Peacefullove: 11:28pm On Sep 16, 2016
DoctorAlien:


If I admit that the sentence "Jesus is the true GOD" is not in the Bible,


^^


I commend your honesty, even with that I must ask , Do you now accept that Jesus is a false God ?

remember you have no single evidence to claim he is the True God unlike Yahweh that have 3D evidence at John 17:3 .




will you tell me an attribute of the true GOD that Jesus does not have, since you search the Scriptures?

^^

you mean from bible: okay Immortality: Jesus died ! the true God never died , he is immortal

let me stop at that
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 11:34pm On Sep 16, 2016
Peacefullove:


^^


I commend your honesty, even with that I must ask , Do you now accept that Jesus is a false God ?

remember you have no single evidence to claim he is the True God unlike Yahweh that have 3D evidence at John 17:3 .





^^

you mean from bible: okay Immortality: Jesus died ! the true God never died , he is immortal

let me stop at that

Jesus did not die the death that is natural to man. He just laid down/gave up His life as a sacrifice for sin. He said he was the one that laid it down. Read Jn. 10:18.

But as GOD, Jesus could not die. That is the reason why He took upon Himself the nature of man. Read Phil. 2:5-8. There you will see that Jesus is equal to GOD. smiley
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Peacefullove: 11:47pm On Sep 16, 2016
DoctorAlien:


Jesus did not die the death that is natural to man. He just laid down/gave up His life as a sacrifice for sin. He said he was the one that laid it down. Read Jn. 10:18.

But as GOD, Jesus could not die. That is the reason why He took upon Himself the nature of man. Read Phil. 2:5-8. There you will see that Jesus is equal to GOD. smiley


^^



you didnt comment on the first part, since there is no single evidence/quote to support Jesus as True God , do you now accept that Jesus is a false God ?



. regarding the second part:

yamayama, Alien doctor dont feed me with crap , your bible said Jesus DIE!


Then Jesus cried out in a loud voice and DIED! mark 15:37 , so what are you telling me ?
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Peacefullove: 11:50pm On Sep 16, 2016
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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 11:53pm On Sep 16, 2016
Peacefullove:


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yamayama, Alien doctor dont feed me with crap , your bible said Jesus DIE!


Then Jesus cried out in a loud voice and DIED! mark 15:37 , so what are you telling me ?

But Jesus made it clear in Jn. 10:18 that He was the one who gave His life. It wasn't the Roman soldiers who took His life. He gave it. He could have held it back. But He gave it. smiley
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Peacefullove: 11:56pm On Sep 16, 2016
DoctorAlien:


But Jesus made it clear in Jn. 10:18 that He was the one who gave His life. It wasn't the Roman soldiers who took His life. He gave it. He could have held it back. But He gave it. smiley


the point is he die , accept ?

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you didnt comment on the first part, since there is no single evidence/quote to support Jesus as True God , do you now accept that Jesus is a false God ?

Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 12:00am On Sep 17, 2016
Peacefullove:



the point is he die , accept ?

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you didnt comment on the first part, since there is no single evidence/quote to support Jesus as True God , do you now accept that Jesus is a false God ?



There is a billion and one proofs to show that Jesus is the true GOD. You still haven't pointed out an attribute of the true GOD that Jesus does not have.

Death had no power over Jesus, because He was GOD. He was the One who subjected Himself to death as a sacrifice for sin. smiley
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by achorladey: 12:02am On Sep 17, 2016
No matter how pikin get cloth reach he no fit get rags like him father. Na proverb. No matter how Papa and pikin farmlands dey together reach he must get boundary. You care to know the meaning of these proverbs then ask the elderly ones amidst you maybe this can help distinguish Father from the son. It seems that is the contending issue nw

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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Peacefullove: 12:08am On Sep 17, 2016
DoctorAlien:


There is a billion and one evidence to show that Jesus is the true GOD.




bring out the evidence sir grin ? not by mouth o , you must show me from your bible





You still haven't pointed out an attribute of the true GOD that Jesus does not have.

Death had no power over Jesus, because He was GOD. He was the One who subjected Himself to death as a sacrifice for sin. smiley



how many times will I say it when you are not blind sir ?

the true God never dies , but Jesus died which you cant deny!


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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 12:11am On Sep 17, 2016
Peacefullove:




bring out the evidence sir grin ? not by mouth o , you must show me from your bible







how many times will I say it when you are not blind sir ?

the true God never dies , but Jesus died which you cant deny!

Jesus was crucified and He died. So tell me, who took His life?
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by achorladey: 12:13am On Sep 17, 2016
DoctorAlien this your Hebrew 1:6 you never explain am finish ooooo. I dey see firstborn somewhere in that account.
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by achorladey: 12:19am On Sep 17, 2016
Then concerning the new law Christian are having. What is the meaning of Paul's letter to the Hebrews in Hebrews 8: 7 - 13 key interest 7&13 then Hebrew 9:1.
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 12:23am On Sep 17, 2016
achorladey:
DoctorAlien this your Hebrew 1:6 you never explain am finish ooooo. I dey see firstborn somewhere in that account.

GOD calls Jesus His begotten Son. Read Psa. 2:7 and Acts 13:33.
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Peacefullove: 12:24am On Sep 17, 2016
DoctorAlien:


Jesus was crucified and He died . So tell me, who took His life?

I dont care who took his life , all I need is what you have said , he died . simple

now since this is based on your former question that says which attribute does the True God have which Jesus doesnt have .

I replied the one called True God in your bible , never died ! but here we read that Jesus died . thats one area that spells their difference.



am still expecting your evidence that says Jesus is the true God .
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 12:33am On Sep 17, 2016
Peacefullove:


I dont care who took his life , all I need is what you have said , he died . simple

now since this is based on your former question that says which attribute does the True God have which Jesus doesnt have .

I replied the one called True God in your bible , never died ! but here we read that Jesus died . thats one area that spells their difference.



am still expecting your evidence that says Jesus is the true God .

Aren't you funny? grin

Well, I'll agree that Jesus is not the true GOD when you point out an attribute of the true GOD that Jesus doesn't have.
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Efisko1(m): 12:55am On Sep 17, 2016
Pidggin:


Yes, they don't

Hmmmm dey are worrisome ohhhhh
Nt saying dey anthem could be interpreted ohhhh.....shey

And too dey don't join police shey?

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