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| Re: If Jehovah Is Omnipresent, Where Was It When Eve Was Talking To The Snake? by Ranchhoddas: 10:59pm On Sep 22, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord:Good point. |
| Re: If Jehovah Is Omnipresent, Where Was It When Eve Was Talking To The Snake? by analice107: 11:10pm On Sep 22, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: So Angels are like robots? If you begin to sound like a certain person here, i may have to stop responding to you too. Be reasonable, i perceive you as such. |
| Re: If Jehovah Is Omnipresent, Where Was It When Eve Was Talking To The Snake? by Ranchhoddas: 11:13pm On Sep 22, 2016 |
analice107:Robots do not have freewill. They do as they are 'told' without question. If angels lack freewill, then they are like robots. |
| Re: If Jehovah Is Omnipresent, Where Was It When Eve Was Talking To The Snake? by analice107: 11:47pm On Sep 22, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: Ok. |
| Re: If Jehovah Is Omnipresent, Where Was It When Eve Was Talking To The Snake? by Nobody: 1:22am On Sep 23, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:people who hate God are called misotheists. Atheists can also be like misotheists but calling all atheists misotheists is just illogical. rather, atheists who act like they hate god for some reason are called Anti-theists and not all atheists are like this. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: If Jehovah Is Omnipresent, Where Was It When Eve Was Talking To The Snake? by Nobody: 1:27am On Sep 23, 2016 |
analice107:So what exactly is the benefit of free will then? it would seem that the angels who don't possess this pesky thing called free will have been enjoying heaven from time immemorial. And us humans who supposedly have free will are not only suffering on this earth, but are in grave danger of suffering for eternity upon our death. According to the bible, the only thing "freewill" ever does is land people in trouble. When you think about it, free will, IF the Judeochristian God actually exists, is the greatest scam ever created. 6 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: If Jehovah Is Omnipresent, Where Was It When Eve Was Talking To The Snake? by mmsen: 1:49am On Sep 23, 2016 |
Thank you for this question OP and for reaffirming how offensive the Bible is to human intelligence. 4 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: If Jehovah Is Omnipresent, Where Was It When Eve Was Talking To The Snake? by frank317: 6:03am On Sep 23, 2016 |
secure: This didn't answer my question. Let me rephrase it perhaps with ur answer... Once eve was given free will by God and the future was now in Eve's hand, did God know the outcome of this future that was now in Eves hand? Did he know it would fail her? 1 Like |
| Re: If Jehovah Is Omnipresent, Where Was It When Eve Was Talking To The Snake? by Nobody: 7:39am On Sep 23, 2016 |
analice107:Lucifer had free will that's how he went against God in the first place, also what about the other angels that chose to follow him rather than God? Just piss.ed on your no free will for angels theory didn't I. Don't run oh 4 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: If Jehovah Is Omnipresent, Where Was It When Eve Was Talking To The Snake? by secure: 8:07am On Sep 23, 2016 |
frank317: Iet me explain this way.....There is no way freewill will work with omniscient power..... What God did was alter the way The power works by giving us is freewill.... Thus the power works this way..... Now..... If Eve did not listen to lucifer.... GOD knows the future of that decision If Eve listen to lucifer.... GOD also knows the future of that decision...... This way the future is nt set for human beings.... You set it base on ur decision..... Now to ur question.... If God knows the decision Eve will take Yes..... God's have the power to know ur future decision even before you even take it..... But if he knows the future that means..... The future is already set...... Regardless of what you do....... What he now did is....... Remove the set future n replaces it with unset future(with d condition based on decision) Now the decision..... If you choose to do nothing.... He knows the future of such decision If you choose to follow "A"..... He knows the future of such decision If you choose to follow " B"..... He knows the future of such decision So anything you choose to do.... The future is dia.... Itz somehow complex (very difficult) to understand how God works..... But God is playing a very wicked game with us...... Believe it or not....... God is both Good n Evil....... Perfect balance of everything 1 Like |
| Re: If Jehovah Is Omnipresent, Where Was It When Eve Was Talking To The Snake? by hahn(m): 8:50am On Sep 23, 2016 |
secure: It is not free will when you tell someone, "Love me but if you chose to love someone else I will kill you". That is blackmail  Besides, as a "loving" god, it should feel responsible for all the people who will die as a result of the situation. Don't you think? So, god gives free will for us to burn in eternity? Can you honestly say this is a trait of love? 2 Likes |
| Re: If Jehovah Is Omnipresent, Where Was It When Eve Was Talking To The Snake? by frank317: 9:02am On Sep 23, 2016 |
secure: Hmmm... So in other words, God does not know (or chooses not to know) the decision we make. He just knows the future of the decision we make. I think I am like that too... I know if my son does no read he will not pass his exam, but I know if he studies hard, hard he will pass exam. U see, there is nothing special in God after all. U think God is playing a wicked game with us? Well I think all ur explanation up there is an insult to God if he exists. You just dissected him like he is just an ordinary being like u. How did u even know he puts his omniscience on hold. Who told u that? You just thought it out? And at the end of the day, your conclusion is that he is playing wicked Game with us. How about just saying u don't know anything instead of making a mockery of your assumed existent God. Thanks 7 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: If Jehovah Is Omnipresent, Where Was It When Eve Was Talking To The Snake? by secure: 9:05am On Sep 23, 2016 |
hahn: God created us for his own purpose n his alone..... He created us to serve him..... He own us..... Whatever he does.... Nobody can question him....... After creating us.... He gave us ability to do anything we want with the exception that you must acknowledge him as the only true God....... Anything oda Dan dat is punishment... As I said..... God is both Good n Evil....... If you think...... God is only Good u r wrong God is 100% Good n also 100% Evil...... He is 100% Good to dose who follow him N Extremely wicked to those who disobey him That is how he has been n will continue to be...... Believe that....... |
| Re: If Jehovah Is Omnipresent, Where Was It When Eve Was Talking To The Snake? by hahn(m): 9:10am On Sep 23, 2016 |
secure: Thanks for proving that your god is a psychotic, murdering monster who is NOT all loving and all kind. I will keep this your quote for future reference. Thank you 5 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: If Jehovah Is Omnipresent, Where Was It When Eve Was Talking To The Snake? by secure: 9:14am On Sep 23, 2016 |
hahn: God said.... I make all things He created the darkness and formed light God is to be feared......... Disobey him at ur own peril |
| Re: If Jehovah Is Omnipresent, Where Was It When Eve Was Talking To The Snake? by hahn(m): 9:21am On Sep 23, 2016 |
secure: Lol. Threats cannot work on me. I am not as gullible as you and your folks. I will prove it to you. First of all, your god can suck my dick. Second, if your god is real then MAY HE STRIKE YOU DOWN WITH INCURABLE DISEASE THIS INSTANT!  5 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: If Jehovah Is Omnipresent, Where Was It When Eve Was Talking To The Snake? by secure: 9:28am On Sep 23, 2016 |
hahn: God forgive him for he do not know what he is doing... May God Ave mercy on you.... Accept Jesus wen you still Ave the chance..... |
| Re: If Jehovah Is Omnipresent, Where Was It When Eve Was Talking To The Snake? by hahn(m): 9:32am On Sep 23, 2016 |
secure: |
| Re: If Jehovah Is Omnipresent, Where Was It When Eve Was Talking To The Snake? by promise10: 9:49am On Sep 23, 2016 |
secure:CONFIRM!!! |
| Re: If Jehovah Is Omnipresent, Where Was It When Eve Was Talking To The Snake? by promise10: 9:53am On Sep 23, 2016 |
[quote author=hahn post=49600847][/quote] This happens when you trying to use the case of multiple gods to rule out the reality of the REAL one, which doesn't make sense IN ANY CASE to say "there ain't no God". I tell you, the WORST DELUDED question I have ever met in athesim-theism argument is; "Among 5000 gods, which of them is the real one?" To me that question means SO MUCH of a delusion to me. I hope to put up a thread on that soon, but just busy these days. |
| Re: If Jehovah Is Omnipresent, Where Was It When Eve Was Talking To The Snake? by promise10: 9:56am On Sep 23, 2016 |
hahn:Who knows what you think as god! But, I would be appreciate to have a discussion on this topic.... |
| Re: If Jehovah Is Omnipresent, Where Was It When Eve Was Talking To The Snake? by Uyi168: 10:09am On Sep 23, 2016 |
analice107:..but we read in the bible where angels left heaven down to earth to take for themselves daughters of men..were they acting on gods command or on their own accord?..gud mrning 1 Like |
| Re: If Jehovah Is Omnipresent, Where Was It When Eve Was Talking To The Snake? by johnydon22(m): 11:00am On Sep 23, 2016 |
frank317: For the fact that in order to defend the incompetence of the God(s) as the definition reveals, people with God(s) must at that every juncture make up abilities, attributes for god or formulate how god operates all by themself is enough not only to show you but also he who is formulating these excuses that God is a human invention, humans say and decide who god is, how it acts and what it likes. 4 Likes 4 Shares |
| Re: If Jehovah Is Omnipresent, Where Was It When Eve Was Talking To The Snake? by DoctorAlien(m): 11:15am On Sep 23, 2016 |
Teempakguy: But you know as an atheist that there is that bad feeling you have towards GOD, no?
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| Re: If Jehovah Is Omnipresent, Where Was It When Eve Was Talking To The Snake? by Nobody: 11:16am On Sep 23, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:No, there is a bad feeling towards the things people do in the name of god. Not god. People. 1 Like |
| Re: If Jehovah Is Omnipresent, Where Was It When Eve Was Talking To The Snake? by Nobody: 11:19am On Sep 23, 2016 |
Teempakguy:How can atheists be misotheists, pray tell? To hate something you have to recognise that it exists, right? Or could you please explain the definition of a misotheists further? Does misotheism include hating the effects of the imaginary god? |
| Re: If Jehovah Is Omnipresent, Where Was It When Eve Was Talking To The Snake? by DoctorAlien(m): 11:24am On Sep 23, 2016 |
AnonyNymous: Oh really? You have a bad feeling towards what people do in the name of GOD and you begin to malign GOD and search the Bible frantically to prove an error that is not there? Have you not read in that same Bible that GOD is angry with Christians who misrepresent Him? |
| Re: If Jehovah Is Omnipresent, Where Was It When Eve Was Talking To The Snake? by Nobody: 11:30am On Sep 23, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:I don't 'search the bible frantically' . . . at times when their delusion and ignorance is displayed, I try to apply reason with them to show how insane, perverted, and self contradictory their god is. Hoping that they might actually realise their error. Have you not read in that same Bible that GOD is angry with Christians who misrepresent Him?And who did your god specifically tell? Someone who wrote it on a stone tablet found somewhere in the middle east? And you really believe that a cattle rearer who scribbled some things on a stone can be trusted as to having been in direct contact with he master of the universe, who has gone into hiding ever since the invention of the camera phone? 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: If Jehovah Is Omnipresent, Where Was It When Eve Was Talking To The Snake? by DoctorAlien(m): 11:34am On Sep 23, 2016 |
AnonyNymous: How can something that does not exist be insane? Don't you think it is much more ridiculous to believe you descended from a worm? |
| Re: If Jehovah Is Omnipresent, Where Was It When Eve Was Talking To The Snake? by Nobody: 11:39am On Sep 23, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:I don't believe I 'descended from a worm'. You can read up on evolution if you want, its been explained a million times on here but the misconceptions still remain. *** How can something that doesn't exist be insane? Well let's take the Biafra republic now. It doesn't exist right? Not yet at least. But yet, its a major national issue with people bothe for and against it. People are dying for it, police are shooting for it, some people just disregard it, some people are ready to do anything for it. Someone is even in prison for it. Yet, it doesn't exist. |
| Re: If Jehovah Is Omnipresent, Where Was It When Eve Was Talking To The Snake? by DoctorAlien(m): 11:45am On Sep 23, 2016 |
AnonyNymous: So the new evolution has it that you no longer descended from a worm? So how did you come about? Do you hate Biafra or do you refer to Biafra as insane? |
| Re: If Jehovah Is Omnipresent, Where Was It When Eve Was Talking To The Snake? by Nobody: 11:47am On Sep 23, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:As I said, its not my job to educate you in evolution. ** Don't misquote me, I didn't say I hated Biafra, I only showed an example of how something that doesn't exist can cause massive actions from people. Personally I have no opinion on the issue, because I'm not an Easterner. I'm just watching the drama unfold. May whoever is truly right succeed. the god of the bible doesn't exist as well, but I'm against the actions that non existent entity causes. 1 Like |
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