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Re: Oba Of Benin, Erediauwa's Coronation Program by latsy: 5:53pm On Oct 07, 2016
Omeny:


Or u mean the other way round?
Are we the ones refusing to admit or it's u guys that don't want to admit that a prince from Benin who came down to Ile-Ife was made an Oba and till today the Ogiso descendant rule in Ile-Ife and who Yorubas pay homage to till this day?

U know u can't change history.
Let me take u to the palace in Benin to show u few evidence that are still available and counter the fact if u can.

U can't win this on mere hear-say.

Ogiso dynasty is dead forever!
It has been replaced by a more vibrant oba system
courtesy of ile-ife.

History is not on your side, a stranger of strange tongue will
end up being sacrificed to the gods not welcomed.

When the ogiso system become useless and civil war was looming,
the Benin chiefs had to call on their civilized neighbour , in ile-ife to come to their aid.
Benin people begged and begged before the last born( the least
favored prince) oranmiyan, was allowed to go stabilize the Benin
kingdom, he eventually left the throne to his son who civilized the
Benin empire based on the Ife system, this is the sacred truth that the ancient
Obas of benin knew but the modern are too ashamed to admit.

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Re: Oba Of Benin, Erediauwa's Coronation Program by zeusdgrt(m): 5:55pm On Oct 07, 2016
latsy:


Sorry to burst your bubble , your first oba of Benin is oduduwa's grandson,
After much begging by Benin chiefs for ile-ife to save their kingdom , oduduwa
took pity on them and sent his last born oranmiyan who left benin to his grandson
Eweka after concluding that Benin does not worth his status.
Please ask your elders before you reply.

Lol...pathetic analysis..u guys are funny dreamers
Re: Oba Of Benin, Erediauwa's Coronation Program by Omeny: 5:58pm On Oct 07, 2016
latsy:


Ogiso dynasty is dead forever!
It has been replaced by a more vibrant oba system
courtesy of ile-ife.

History is not on your side, a stranger of strange tongue will
end up being sacrificed to the gods not welcomed.

When the ogiso system become useless and civil war was looming,
the Benin chiefs had to call on their civilized neighbour , in ile-ife to come to their aid.
Benin people begged and begged before the last born( the least
favored prince) oranmiyan, was allowed to go stabilize the Benin
kingdom, he eventually left the throne to his son who civilized the
Benin empire based on the Ife system, this is the sacred truth that the ancient
Obas of benin knew but the modern are too ashamed to admit.

Who ever is reading this ur write-up will smell rude,arrogance and false in all u want to force down our throat.
But our history is there for all to see.
A word is enough for the wise.

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Re: Oba Of Benin, Erediauwa's Coronation Program by zeusdgrt(m): 5:58pm On Oct 07, 2016
Alexis11:


Unfortunately, you guys are not arguing with a Yoruba guy. But its good cool

Lol
Re: Oba Of Benin, Erediauwa's Coronation Program by zeusdgrt(m): 5:59pm On Oct 07, 2016
Alexis11:


Unfortunately, you guys are not arguing with a Yoruba guy. But its good cool

Lol...no wonder the dumb analysis
Re: Oba Of Benin, Erediauwa's Coronation Program by zeusdgrt(m): 6:02pm On Oct 07, 2016
jayrule:

D
Lmao This is epic grin

Tanchu Tanchu grin
Re: Oba Of Benin, Erediauwa's Coronation Program by paradigmshift(m): 6:09pm On Oct 07, 2016
Semper247:
With all the rituals, he will still enter church do thanksgiving? Who will he be thanking in the church? Deities??

Not an ordinary church bro...church for senior men built with red sand....u no go fit understand......
Re: Oba Of Benin, Erediauwa's Coronation Program by paradigmshift(m): 6:17pm On Oct 07, 2016
The world only know 3 kingdoms... u know the names so no argument...proud Benin boy

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Re: Oba Of Benin, Erediauwa's Coronation Program by cyrilamx(m): 6:24pm On Oct 07, 2016
IEDA:
You go surely wait...The Bini Palace that has never shown any form subordination to that of Ife....Even the last OBA of Benin clarify this matter tire...You go just dey nairaland dey claim local tout...
ife kingship we dem dey rotate anyhow? Just watch the personalities that will grace Benin coronation. Even Queen Elizabeth is sending a delegation. The only Kingdom even the president respect. Think am lying? Ask Gej and Pmb.

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Re: Oba Of Benin, Erediauwa's Coronation Program by jayrule(m): 6:36pm On Oct 07, 2016
Alexis11:


Dog, the dude is one your people that is ashamed of your miserable tribe. You can't tell me what I know.

Your oblong head like a military road block. Your phobia will extinct you.

Then dude is one of the descendants of your accursed slaves from your right wing of the land. So shut up and face him. Dont get headache from forcibly pushing it to where it is irrelevant.
Re: Oba Of Benin, Erediauwa's Coronation Program by Rilwayne001: 6:41pm On Oct 07, 2016
sukkot:
erediauwa ukwakpolopolopolopolopolopolo

that UK whether is doing something else to your head bro grin grin you need to come back home and spend last 2weeks under Kano and Lagos sun cheesy cheesy cheesy grin
Re: Oba Of Benin, Erediauwa's Coronation Program by Alexis11: 6:46pm On Oct 07, 2016
jayrule:


Your oblong head like a military road block. Your phobia will extinct you.

Then dude is one of the descendants of your accursed slaves from your right wing of the land. So shut up and face him. Dont get headache from forcibly pushing it to where it is irrelevant.

Nitwit, what exactly are you saying?
Re: Oba Of Benin, Erediauwa's Coronation Program by chrystalC(m): 6:49pm On Oct 07, 2016
jide219:
My oba is better than your Benin oba,m talking the king of kings he is the true king u all know who m talking about click like if u know click share if u dont

No one is gonna argue your GOD with you, even the king of kings acknowledges the KINGS on earth, so stop being naive.....
Re: Oba Of Benin, Erediauwa's Coronation Program by sukkot: 7:36pm On Oct 07, 2016
Rilwayne001:


that UK whether is doing something else to your head bro grin grin you need to come back home and spend last 2weeks under Kano and Lagos sun cheesy cheesy cheesy grin
cheesy cheesy bro thats the real name of the man. they shortened it because many people couldnt pronounce it. lolzzz
Re: Oba Of Benin, Erediauwa's Coronation Program by sukkot: 7:37pm On Oct 07, 2016
jayrule:

Ukwa apolo and polo with folk folk cheesy
grin
Re: Oba Of Benin, Erediauwa's Coronation Program by SalomonKane: 8:07pm On Oct 07, 2016
YonkijiSappo:
Thanksgiving...LMAO

Thanksgiving to whom?
Ask again.
Re: Oba Of Benin, Erediauwa's Coronation Program by SalomonKane: 8:08pm On Oct 07, 2016
sukkot:
cheesy cheesy bro thats the real name of the man. they shortened it because many people couldnt pronounce it. lolzzz
Are you sure?
Re: Oba Of Benin, Erediauwa's Coronation Program by Ubenedictus(m): 8:20pm On Oct 07, 2016
O0ni:


Fight?

All original Kingdoms compulsorily end their coronation in Ife, with the Ooni.

Ask the Alaafin and others.

After all the preliminaries in Edo, the Olubini still has to come here to finish up.

Na the pre-historic arrangement me just dey post reminder for all of us, nor vex.
Story, d oba doesnt finish up in ife. in d olden days d oba didnt go to ife either, unless he is dead.
Re: Oba Of Benin, Erediauwa's Coronation Program by Ubenedictus(m): 8:21pm On Oct 07, 2016
fatiaforreal:
Where is the Ogiamwen in this programme?
What about the Ekhiopa Treaty?
Deliberately silenced? Hmmmm.
There is no recognised ogiamwen in utantan.
Re: Oba Of Benin, Erediauwa's Coronation Program by Ubenedictus(m): 8:40pm On Oct 07, 2016
latsy:


Ogiso dynasty is dead forever!
It has been replaced by a more vibrant oba system
courtesy of ile-ife.

History is not on your side, a stranger of strange tongue will
end up being sacrificed to the gods not welcomed.

When the ogiso system become useless and civil war was looming,
the Benin chiefs had to call on their civilized neighbour , in ile-ife to come to their aid.
Benin people begged and begged before the last born( the least
favored prince) oranmiyan, was allowed to go stabilize the Benin
kingdom, he eventually left the throne to his son who civilized the
Benin empire based on the Ife system, this is the sacred truth that the ancient
Obas of benin knew but the modern are too ashamed to admit.
Are u sure oramiyan is d least favoured? he ended up ruling ife and oyo after he was pursued from bini.
Re: Oba Of Benin, Erediauwa's Coronation Program by Lawless101(m): 10:43pm On Oct 07, 2016
TheOonlyOne:
Na him security guards be those guys wey get potbelly so? grin

InsureYourAutos
Re: Oba Of Benin, Erediauwa's Coronation Program by felixomor: 5:32am On Oct 08, 2016
O0ni:


Every original kingdom has to do its own local coronation stuff within its domain and at the end of it, the king finds his way to Ife to be inducted in the 'Hall of Kings'. grin

Their coronation is a re-enactment of Oranmiyan's journey into Bini & his contact with the Ogiso/the people who owned the land. It is more of visitations to historic spots Oranmiyan & certain early Oba visited as well as contact/interactions with certain original Bini owners prior to Oranmiyan.

After they had done this, the king has to come to Ife and we dey wait. cheesy grin

Just keep waiting.
When u reach 100 years tell us
Re: Oba Of Benin, Erediauwa's Coronation Program by latsy: 5:05pm On Oct 08, 2016
Ubenedictus:
Are u sure oramiyan is d least favoured? he ended up ruling ife and oyo after he was pursued from bini.

Yes , he was the least favored in ife throne hierachy, he wasn't pursued, he
left Benin after determining that the kingdom does not worth his time and
status giving the in unseriousness of the ruling chiefs.
Re: Oba Of Benin, Erediauwa's Coronation Program by jayrule(m): 6:32pm On Oct 08, 2016
Alexis11:


Nitwit, what exactly are you saying?

Dolt
Re: Oba Of Benin, Erediauwa's Coronation Program by macof(m): 6:44pm On Oct 08, 2016
Ubenedictus:
There is no recognised ogiamwen in utantan.

will the coronation still be traditional valid without the Ekiokpagha treaty?

How will Oba of Benin claim sovereignty without Ogiamien selling it to him?
Re: Oba Of Benin, Erediauwa's Coronation Program by Ubenedictus(m): 7:04pm On Oct 08, 2016
macof:


will the coronation still be traditional valid without the Ekiokpagha treaty?

How will Oba of Benin claim sovereignty without Ogiamien selling it to him?
the oba has sovereignty, with or without the treaty, the treaty was to prevent futher bloodshed between family member. besides the treaty didnt hold in d last coronation, the battle was re-enacted but the traditional payment wasn't given. the ogiamwen lost to eweka, the treaty is simply a declaration of no victor, no vanguished, that is y d items of payment isnt much.

since there is no ogiamwen in utantan, a representative of d family will participate in d ritual with the ediaken. that satisfies the ritual requirement.
Re: Oba Of Benin, Erediauwa's Coronation Program by Ubenedictus(m): 7:21pm On Oct 08, 2016
latsy:


Yes , he was the least favored in ife throne hierachy, he wasn't pursued, he
left Benin after determining that the kingdom does not worth his time and
status giving the in unseriousness of the ruling chiefs.
Actualy he was pursued from benin, he never entered the city, his palace was in d outskirts of d city with d uzama. oramiyan wasnt granted access to benin because his distant cousin, d ogiamwen, had taken over d arms of government, military and finance. Oramiyan saw he was at a disadvantage, so he tuck his tail and ran away leaving a pregnant woman and shouting 'ile ibinu', he ran away so that his unborn son was left with the problems oramiyan couldnt fix. With d help of d chiefs eweka won (they did a good job) and oramiyan ran back to his old father to cry, requesting for power, he couldnt wait for oduduwa to die so he was granted d right to collect revenue from his brothers, that is how he bcame alafin in oyo after runing away from benin. He was favoured.
Re: Oba Of Benin, Erediauwa's Coronation Program by nuelyoyo(m): 8:01pm On Oct 08, 2016
emeijeh:
Oba gha'tö kpéré
Isseee!
Re: Oba Of Benin, Erediauwa's Coronation Program by macof(m): 6:50pm On Oct 09, 2016
Ubenedictus:
Actualy he was pursued from benin, he never entered the city, his palace was in d outskirts of d city with d uzama. oramiyan wasnt granted access to benin because his distant cousin, d ogiamwen, had taken over d arms of government, military and finance. Oramiyan saw he was at a disadvantage, so he tuck his tail and ran away leaving a pregnant woman and shouting 'ile ibinu', he ran away so that his unborn son was left with the problems oramiyan couldnt fix. With d help of d chiefs eweka won (they did a good job) and oramiyan ran back to his old father to cry, requesting for power, he couldnt wait for oduduwa to die so he was granted d right to collect revenue from his brothers, that is how he bcame alafin in oyo after runing away from benin. He was favoured.


grin grin look how he's talking like he knows shiit about Oranmiyan
Re: Oba Of Benin, Erediauwa's Coronation Program by latsy: 7:17pm On Oct 09, 2016
Ubenedictus:
Actualy he was pursued from benin, he never entered the city, his palace was in d outskirts of d city with d uzama. oramiyan wasnt granted access to benin because his distant cousin, d ogiamwen, had taken over d arms of government, military and finance. Oramiyan saw he was at a disadvantage, so he tuck his tail and ran away leaving a pregnant woman and shouting 'ile ibinu', he ran away so that his unborn son was left with the problems oramiyan couldnt fix. With d help of d chiefs eweka won (they did a good job) and oramiyan ran back to his old father to cry, requesting for power, he couldnt wait for oduduwa to die so he was granted d right to collect revenue from his brothers, that is how he bcame alafin in oyo after runing away from benin. He was favoured.

Look at it this way, Benin chiefs treked a long distance to go beg
Ile-ife to save them from implosion, if the ogiamen had already
stabilized the kingdom, why would the chiefs go to ile-ife to ask
for help ?

After much pleading and begging by the Benin chiefs oduduwa allowed oranmiyan
to go with them but on seeing that they are unserious fellow who can't
be trusted he left Benin to pursue a more worthy cause.
One would have thought that with the departure of oranmiyan, the
treacherous chiefs would find it easy holding on to the throne.
Unfortunately, they couldn't , a vulnerable eweka successfully subjugated them.

One thing is certain , the Oba that you guys worship is not a descendant
of the Benin kingdom, he is a grandson of ile-ife, if you guys are serious
about removing the shame attached to being ruled by a foreigner, you will
stop the primogeniture right to the throne, unfortunately, you can't because
Eweka has instilled an eternal insurmountable fear on your chiefs.
Re: Oba Of Benin, Erediauwa's Coronation Program by Ubenedictus(m): 9:57am On Oct 12, 2016
latsy:


Look at it this way, Benin chiefs treked a long distance to go beg
Ile-ife to save them from implosion, if the ogiamen had already
stabilized the kingdom, why would the chiefs go to ile-ife to ask
for help ?

After much pleading and begging by the Benin chiefs oduduwa allowed oranmiyan
to go with them but on seeing that they are unserious fellow who can't
be trusted he left Benin to pursue a more worthy cause.
One would have thought that with the departure of oranmiyan, the
treacherous chiefs would find it easy holding on to the throne.
Unfortunately, they couldn't , a vulnerable eweka successfully subjugated them.
u are trying to rewrite history with ur lies.
the reason d chief went to ife was because only d child of d late king can rule in his father's throne and oduduwa was d son of d ogiso.
ofcuz eweka never entered bini cos b couldnt beat his distant cousin d ogiso and ran away. eweka couldnt subjugate d chiefs, dat only happend centuries later.
Re: Oba Of Benin, Erediauwa's Coronation Program by latsy: 1:35pm On Oct 12, 2016
Ubenedictus:
u are trying to rewrite history with ur lies.
the reason d chief went to ife was because only d child of d late king can rule in his father's throne and oduduwa was d son of d ogiso.
ofcuz eweka never entered bini cos b couldnt beat his distant cousin d ogiso and ran away. eweka couldnt subjugate d chiefs, dat only happend centuries later.

Oduduwa was never related to the Ogiso,
he is a thoroughbred ile-ife man.
Never believe what your modern are telling
you, they are only trying to save face.
It speaks of the ogiso dynasty's power if a defenseless
Yoruba toddler(Eweka) was able to overpower ogiso chiefs
and installed himself and his descendants as
the permanent oba in Benin kingdom.

What do you have to say about a man who ran away
according you but was still able to change the name
of your kingdom to Benin ?
And his son was able to single handedly destroy the
ogiso's dynasty.
Imagine a mere human defeating erasing the memory of ogiso(a supposed sky god)

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