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Re: Is Sunday The Christian Sabbath? by Scholar8200(m): 5:53pm On Oct 17, 2016
blueAgent:



This not what Paul meant by one esteemeth one day above the order.
To understand the Bible you need to look at it from every possible angle and take into consideration every Bible verse concerning the issue.Paul cannot instruct people to worship on a day different from what God commanded.

I will get you more details on this topic.
In the New testament, the call is to worship in spirit and in truth, hence time and place is not important. The OT was characterised by a Physical Temple and other outward forms but Jesus revealed the desire of the Father of true worshippers. That is why the early Church break bread every day and from house to house.

If you consider this:

And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.
Acts 20:7

and

Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.
1 Corinth 16:2

The first day of the week was the Lord's day and that was there meeting time.

Just like the Lord's Supper fulfilled the Passover and the latter was to be done once a year but the former as often as they could, the resurrection of Jesus on that first day of the week marked, for them, a new beginning. Jesus , the Substance, had fulfilled the Law hence all that mattered was Him and abiding in Him.
Re: Is Sunday The Christian Sabbath? by Scholar8200(m): 6:00pm On Oct 17, 2016
blueAgent:


Do you know that the ten commandements existed before the time of Abraham?
And to who was it given? Remember the inspired Word:

Sin was [committed] in the world before the Law [was given], but sin is not charged [against anyone] when there is no law [against it]. 14 Yet death ruled [over mankind] from Adam to Moses [the Lawgiver], even over those who had not sinned [c]as Adam did. Adam is a type of Him (Christ) who was to come [but in reverse—Adam brought destruction, Christ brought salvation].
Romans 5:13,14

The point from the above is that Moses is the one referred to as the Lawgiver, meaning before his ministry, the law, as we know it, was not given. Besides, John also speaks on this wise:
For the Law was given through Moses, but grace [the unearned, undeserved favor of God] and truth came through Jesus Christ. John 1:17

Any claims of the law being before Moses is to directly contradict this.
Re: Is Sunday The Christian Sabbath? by blueAgent(m): 6:02pm On Oct 17, 2016
DoctorAlien:
OLAADEGBU,

Which day did the Israelites keep as the Sabbath in the Bible?

You skipped my question: how can we love GOD?

o
They kept Saturday the sabbath .
John20:1

The first day of the week comes Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, to the sepulcher, and sees the stone taken away from the sepulcher.
Re: Is Sunday The Christian Sabbath? by blueAgent(m): 6:06pm On Oct 17, 2016
OLAADEGBU:


Sabbath in the Bible means rest. God set the pattern for mankind to rest after working for 6 days. This is why we still have the 7 week day since creation. This was made for man to rest and remember our Creator and worship our redeemer. The word Sabbath doesn't mean Saturday, Sunday or even the Seventh day, it only means rest. It means if you work for 6 days take a kit kat on the 7th before you break down, and while you are resting remember your Creator and redeemer and worship Him. There are nations where you Saturday and Sunday are working days are you saying that Christians should not work on those days? or that they should not live in those countries? Let us not be legalistic, this attitude is what Jesus came to correct when the Pharisees made rules for folks not to do any work on Sabbath days but they would definitely not allow their sheep that fell into a ditch on such days to die without rescuing them. The Sabbath was made for man's benefit and not for man to be enslaved to the Sabbath's rules (Mark 2:27).



Love is one of the fruit of the Spirit after we


have believed the finished work of Christ on the Cross.

Read Romans 13:8-10; Galatians 5:13-18; Matthew 22:37-40; 7:12



I reiterate my point by quoting the excerpt below:












Do you know that the same way a man's birthday cannot be changed ,so is the Sabbath day. it is a memorial day to mark when God accomplished his work of creating and restoring the world.
If you change a birthday from 1st to 2nd it is not the same thing. is like one misquoting his birthday by one day.


In all of scripture, the seventh day of the
week, the Sabbath, is the only day which has
been declared by God Himself to be blessed,
sanctified (set aside for a holy purpose), in
memorial to His creation.

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Re: Is Sunday The Christian Sabbath? by blueAgent(m): 6:33pm On Oct 17, 2016
Scholar8200:
In the New testament, the call is to worship in spirit and in truth, hence time and place is not important. The OT was characterised by a Physical Temple and other outward forms but Jesus revealed the desire of the Father of true worshippers. That is why the early Church break bread every day and from house to house.

If you consider this:

And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.
Acts 20:7

and

Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.
1 Corinth 16:2

The first day of the week was the Lord's day and that was there meeting time.

Just like the Lord's Supper fulfilled the Passover and the latter was to be done once a year but the former as often as they could, the resurrection of Jesus on that first day of the week marked, for them, a new beginning. Jesus , the Substance, had fulfilled the Law hence all that mattered was Him and abiding in Him.


Upon the first day of the week never indicated they worshiped on that day. rather that day was choosen becos it was not the day of rest.

You confuse the meaning of worship in spirit. Who said place and time does not matter.how can you worship God in Spirit when you violate his commandments.
remember that Jesus will hold people who violates his laws.
Thus have ye made the
commandment of God of none effect by your
tradition." "In vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
Matthew 15:6, 9. "Her priests have violated my
law." "And her prophets have daubed them with untempered mortar, ... saying, Thus saith the Lord God, when the Lord hath not spoken."
Ezekiel 22:26, 28.
Misguided men of long years past
announced that God's holy day was changed from
Sabbath to Sunday. God predicted it would
happen, and it did. This error was passed on to our unsuspecting generation as gospel fact.
Sunday-keeping is a tradition of uninspired men and breaks God's law, which commands Sabbath-
keeping. Only God can make a day holy. God
blessed the Sabbath, and when God blesses, no man can "reverse it." Numbers 23:20.

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Re: Is Sunday The Christian Sabbath? by blueAgent(m): 6:41pm On Oct 17, 2016
Scholar8200:
And to who was it given? Remember the inspired Word:

Sin was [committed] in the world before the Law [was given], but sin is not charged [against anyone] when there is no law [against it]. 14 Yet death ruled [over mankind] from Adam to Moses [the Lawgiver], even over those who had not sinned [c]as Adam did. Adam is a type of Him (Christ) who was to come [but in reverse—Adam brought destruction, Christ brought salvation].
Romans 5:13,14

The point from the above is that Moses is the one referred to as the Lawgiver, meaning before his ministry, the law, as we know it, was not given. Besides, John also speaks on this wise:
For the Law was given through Moses, but grace [the unearned, undeserved favor of God] and truth came through Jesus Christ. John 1:17

Any claims of the law being before Moses is to directly contradict this.

Moses was the one who gave the law to the Israelities, prior to this the law was known and praticsed by their Ancenstors.
Re: Is Sunday The Christian Sabbath? by blueAgent(m): 6:57pm On Oct 17, 2016
Scholar8200:
And to who was it given? Remember the inspired Word:

Sin was [committed] in the world before the Law [was given], but sin is not charged [against anyone] when there is no law [against it]. 14 Yet death ruled [over mankind] from Adam to Moses [the Lawgiver], even over those who had not sinned [c]as Adam did. Adam is a type of Him (Christ) who was to come [but in reverse—Adam brought destruction, Christ brought salvation].
Romans 5:13,14

The point from the above is that Moses is the one referred to as the Lawgiver, meaning before his ministry, the law, as we know it, was not given. Besides, John also speaks on this wise:
For the Law was given through Moses, but grace [the unearned, undeserved favor of God] and truth came through Jesus Christ. John 1:17

Any claims of the law being before Moses is to directly contradict this.
n

Moses was more like a Law Bearer not giver. a mere Mortal cannot be the giver of God's law.
The Bible confirmed that God himself spoke the Ten commadments .

www.the-ten-commandments.org/were-the-ten-commandments-abolished.html
Re: Is Sunday The Christian Sabbath? by Scholar8200(m): 7:06pm On Oct 17, 2016
blueAgent:



Upon the first day of the week never indicated they worshiped on that day. rather that day was choosen becos it was not the day of rest.

You confuse the meaning of worship in spirit. Who said place and time does not matter.how can you worship God in Spirit when you violate his commandments.
remember that Jesus will hold people who violates his laws.
Thus have ye made the
commandment of God of none effect by your
tradition." "In vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
Matthew 15:6, 9. "Her priests have violated my
law." "And her prophets have daubed them with untempered mortar, ... saying, Thus saith the Lord God, when the Lord hath not spoken."
Ezekiel 22:26, 28.
Sorry, are you referring to the early church here?


Misguided men of long years past
announced that God's holy day was changed from
Sabbath to Sunday. God predicted it would
happen, and it did. This error was passed on to our unsuspecting generation as gospel fact.
Sunday-keeping is a tradition of uninspired men and breaks God's law,
Note that this practise predates Constantine.

And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.
Acts 20:7
http://biblehub.com/commentaries/acts/20-7.htm might be a good reference.

Sabbath remains saturday and there is


which commands Sabbath-
keeping. Only God can make a day holy. God
blessed the Sabbath, and when God blesses, no man can "reverse it." Numbers 23:20.


This was a covenant ratified by the blood of bulls and goats. Exodus 24:7,8 The Israelites down the line entered therein by inheritance. Where then do the Gentiles (like you and me) stand?

And if we are made acceptable in the beloved by the Blood of Jesus in a New Covenant, is there any proof that Jesus duplicated Moses' laws being the letter that kills or HE came with the Spirit of life?

Now since we have established that the law came by Moses (the OT) and Grace came by Jesus Christ, and [size=18pt]Jesus has plainly said that the Greatest command in the Law is not observance of sabbath but Agape-love to God and Man[/size]; and we see that in the NT, the love of God is shed abroad in our heart by the Spirit, love being the fruit of the Spirit, where does the sabbath stand?

Paul, a jew of jews, by inspiration said:

19 Why, then, the Law [what was its purpose]? It was added [after the promise to Abraham, to reveal to people their guilt] because of transgressions [that is, to make people conscious of the sinfulness of sin], and [the Law] was ordained through angels and delivered to Israel by the hand of a mediator [Moses, the mediator between God and Israel, to be in effect] until the Seed would come to whom the promise had been made.
23 Now before faith came, we were kept in custody under the Law, [perpetually] imprisoned [in preparation] for the faith that was destined to be revealed,
24 [b]with the result that the Law has become our tutor and our disciplinarian to guide us to Christ, so that we may be [c]justified [that is, declared free of the guilt of sin and its penalty, and placed in right standing with God] by faith.
25 But now that faith has come, we are no longer under [the control and authority of] a tutor and disciplinarian.
[/b]Galatians 3 excerpts from AMP

It is therefore clear that the
Re: Is Sunday The Christian Sabbath? by DoctorAlien(m): 7:07pm On Oct 17, 2016
If there is no sin where there is no law, it follows then that there was a Law which Lucifer broke in Heaven.

And that was the 10 Commandments!

The first command enjoins us to not have any other god before Jehovah. Lucifer exalted himself in his heart above GOD.

The 10 command enjoins us to not covet anything that belongs to our neighbor. Lucifer coveted Christ's position.

"Sin the transgression of the law." 1 Jn. 3:4.

Dear brothers and sisters, if you continue transgressing GOD's law even when it has been shown to you that it is eternal and cannot be done away with, you really aren't doing GOD's will!

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Re: Is Sunday The Christian Sabbath? by Scholar8200(m): 7:09pm On Oct 17, 2016
blueAgent:


Moses was the one who gave the law to the Israelities, prior to this the law was known and praticsed by their Ancenstors.
Any proof for this assertion? Like Job, or Noah, or Enoch?

Besides, you contradict this:

We know that it was Adam’s sin that caused this[b] because although, of course, people were sinning from the time of Adam until Moses, God did not in those days judge them guilty of death for breaking his laws—[size=18pt]because he had not yet given his laws to them[/size] nor told them what he wanted them to do[/b]
Romans 5:13 TLB
Re: Is Sunday The Christian Sabbath? by DoctorAlien(m): 7:11pm On Oct 17, 2016
In Luke’s history of the early church, he describes the dramatic farewell meeting, which Paul had with the believers in Troas. Those who grasp for any tiny excuse to justify their disobedience of God’s commandments have grievously distorted this account in the book of Acts. Because it is the only record in the New Testament of a religious meeting being held on the first day of the week, we should examine it with special care and interest.
Re: Is Sunday The Christian Sabbath? by DoctorAlien(m): 7:13pm On Oct 17, 2016
The full context reveals that it was a night meeting. “And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of unleavened bread, and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days. In addition, upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight. And there were many lights in the upper chamber, where they were gathered together. And there sat in a window a certain young man named Eutychus, being fallen into a deep sleep: … and fell down from the third loft, and was taken up dead. And Paul went down, and fell on him, and embracing him said, Trouble not yourselves; for his life is in him. When he therefore was come up again, and had broken bread, and eaten, and talked a long while, even till break of day, so he departed. And they brought the young man alive, and were not a little comforted. And we went before to ship, and sailed unto Assos, there intending to
Re: Is Sunday The Christian Sabbath? by Scholar8200(m): 7:13pm On Oct 17, 2016
DoctorAlien:
If there is no sin where there is no law, it follows then that there was a Law which Lucifer broke in Heaven.

And that was the 10 Commandments!

The first command enjoins us to not have any other god before Jehovah. Lucifer exalted himself in his heart above GOD.

The 10 command enjoins us to not covet anything that belongs to our neighbor. Lucifer coveted Christ's position.

"Sin the transgression of the law." 1 Jn. 3:4.

Dear brothers and sisters, if you continue transgressing GOD's law even when it has been shown to you that it is eternal and cannot be done away with, you really aren't doing GOD's will!
Here are you personal assumptions!!!

Even the Bible clearly says what the devil's condemnation was viz Pride! None of those assumptions you made were ever mentioned.

17 Your heart was filled with pride because of all your beauty; you corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendor. Therefore, I have cast you down to the ground and exposed you helpless before the curious gaze of kings.
Ezekiel 28:17

Nothing of covetousness or idolatry is mentioned!!!
Re: Is Sunday The Christian Sabbath? by DoctorAlien(m): 7:14pm On Oct 17, 2016
And we went before to ship, and
sailed unto Assos, there intending to take in Paul: for so had he appointed, minding himself to go afoot” (Acts 20:6–13). There are some very unusual things about this all-night meeting in Troas. First, it had to be a solemn, poignant occasion for the speaker and congregation, as well. In verse 25 Paul declared, “And now, behold, I know that ye all, among whom I have gone preaching the kingdom of God, shall see my face no more.” It is obvious that this farewell meeting was held on the dark part of the first day of the week. There were lights in the room, and Paul preached until midnight. It is important to understand the Jewish way of reckoning time.

Days were not counted according to the pagan Roman method, from midnight to midnight. In the Bible, the day begins at evening. Genesis describes all the days of creation week in the same way—“The evening and the morning were the first day … the evening and the morning were the second day,” etc.
Re: Is Sunday The Christian Sabbath? by Scholar8200(m): 7:16pm On Oct 17, 2016
http://biblehub.com/commentaries/acts/20-7.htm might be a good place to study.
Re: Is Sunday The Christian Sabbath? by DoctorAlien(m): 7:18pm On Oct 17, 2016
In other words, the evening always comes first in the day.

This explains why the Sabbath is described in these words, “It shall be unto you a sabbath of rest, ... from even unto even, shall ye celebrate
your sabbath” (Leviticus 23:32). But when does the evening begin according to the Bible? “And at
even, when the sun did set, they brought unto
him all that were diseased, and them that were possessed with devils” (Mark 1:32). Since the Pharisees taught that it was wrong to heal on the Sabbath, the people waited until the Sabbath was over before bringing their sick to Jesus. Therefore, they brought them “at even, when the sun did set.” Moses wrote, “Thou shalt sacrifice the passover at even, at the going down of the sun” (Deuteronomy 16:6).
Re: Is Sunday The Christian Sabbath? by DoctorAlien(m): 7:20pm On Oct 17, 2016
In Nehemiah, we are given another description of the beginning of Sabbath. “And it came to pass, that when the gates of Jerusalem began to be dark before the sabbath, I commanded that the gates should be shut, and charged that they should not be opened till after the sabbath” (Nehemiah 13:19). This definitely places the first moments of the Sabbath at sunset, when it is beginning to be dark.

Now we are ready to apply this sound Bible principle to the first-day meeting of Paul in Troas. The night setting would require that it be held on Saturday night. The Sabbath ended at sundown, and the first day of the week began. Paul, who had stayed a full seven days so that he could be with the people over the Sabbath, decided not to leave with the ship on Saturday night. Instead, he fellowshipped all night long with the believers and then walked twenty miles across the peninsula on Sunday morning to join the boat at Assos.
Re: Is Sunday The Christian Sabbath? by DoctorAlien(m): 7:23pm On Oct 17, 2016
Incidentally, Paul’s missionary companions, including Luke, who chronicled the highlights of the carefully scheduled voyage, manned this boat. It is very significant that they would not go out to sea until the Sabbath was over on Saturday night. Toiling at the oars and sails would have been no more proper for a holy day than Paul’s twenty-mile walk across the isthmus on Sunday morning. Neither Paul nor his fellow travelers would have indulged in those secular activities on God’s holy Sabbath.

[size=14]Why Eutychus Dropped Out of Church[/size]

The New English Bible actually states that the meeting was held on Saturday night. The chief focus of the story seems to be upon the raising of Eutychus from the dead after he fell out the window. The dauntless Paul, after ministering on Sabbath and all night Saturday night, walked twenty miles on Sunday morning to join his companions in Assos.
Re: Is Sunday The Christian Sabbath? by DoctorAlien(m): 7:25pm On Oct 17, 2016
They had stayed with the ship as it sailed around the peninsula on Saturday night, after the Sabbath was over.

That long journey on foot by Paul the next day would have been very inappropriate on any kind of holy day. Some have equated the breaking of bread with the communion service, but such a view cannot be supported from the Scriptures. Luke assures us that those early Christians broke bread daily. “And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and
singleness of heart” (Acts 2:46).

The Bible cannot confirm the contention that Paul celebrated the Lord’s Supper with the believers in the upper room. The wording seems to indicate that it was a common meal they shared together. “When he therefore was come up again, and had broken bread, and eaten…” (Acts 20:11). Here we find that eating was associated with the breaking of bread. It is unlikely that the communion meal would be referred to in this manner.
Re: Is Sunday The Christian Sabbath? by DoctorAlien(m): 7:27pm On Oct 17, 2016
But even if that farewell meeting had included the celebration of Christ’s suffering and death, it would not lend any credence to Sunday observance. We have seen from Acts 2 that bread was broken daily, and nowhere is the Lord’s Supper linked to any particular day. It is surely obvious to anyone that the Troas meeting was not a regular weekly worship service. The importance of that all-night session appears in the miraculous raising of the young man Eutychus, and in the fact that Paul would never see them again before his death. The particular time frame—all Saturday night—has no spiritual significance whatsoever. Luke, the careful historian, does not even record any of the content of Paul’s marathon sermon, although he faithfully documents the miracle of the resurrected youth. Apparently, it was the way Eutychus dropped out of church, and not the day on which it happened that Luke is seeking to establish.
Re: Is Sunday The Christian Sabbath? by DoctorAlien(m): 7:30pm On Oct 17, 2016
I am reminded of the story of a Russian czar who took a walk one morning in the border area of his extensive palace grounds. There he saw a soldier with a gun on his shoulder marching up and down near a deserted corner of the courtyard wall. He asked the soldier, who was apparently on sentry duty, what he was guarding. The man replied that he was only following orders and did not know why he was assigned to that particular spot. The czar asked the captain of the guard what the soldier was doing, but he had no idea either. The general in charge of the palace security was consulted, but he could give no reason for the assignment. Finally, the king ordered a search of the dusty military records, and the mystery was unfolded. Years and years before, the queen mother had planted some rose bushes in that corner ofthe courtyard, and a soldier had been sent to protect the tender plants from being trampled.
Re: Is Sunday The Christian Sabbath? by DoctorAlien(m): 7:31pm On Oct 17, 2016
Later, someone had forgotten to cancel the order, and the daily sentry ritual had continued through the years—soldiers with their guns, guarding nothing but an empty rose plot.

Today there are millions of sincere Christians who are religiously trying to protect the sanctity of Sunday. They don’t realize that there is really nothing to guard. The first day of the week is just as devoid of holiness as the deserted courtyard of roses. Jesus said, “Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up” (Matthew 15:13).
Re: Is Sunday The Christian Sabbath? by DoctorAlien(m): 7:35pm On Oct 17, 2016
[size=14]The Day The Disciples Kept[/size]

Now that we have exhausted all possible sources for Sunday keeping without finding the smallest favorable evidence, let us turn to the inspired history of that early church. If they did not keep the first day of the week, which day did they observe? The book of Acts establishes a consistent pattern of seventh-day Sabbathkeeping. On one occasion, Paul was petitioned by the Gentiles to hold an exclusive service for them on the Sabbath. “And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath … And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God” (Acts 13:42, 44).
Re: Is Sunday The Christian Sabbath? by DoctorAlien(m): 7:38pm On Oct 17, 2016
There are some very interesting points in these dynamic verses that validate the Sabbath practices of Paul and his fellow Christians. After preaching in the synagogue, where the Gentiles were not permitted to enter, Paul was besieged by the Gentiles with an appeal to preach to them “the next Sabbath.” Many have charged that Paul only preached in the synagogues on the Sabbath because he had a ready-made crowd of Jews to work on. This is a false claim. In this instance, Paul made an appointment to minister to the Gentiles on the following Sabbath, and according to verse 43, many of those who heard him that day were “proselytes” to the faith. This means they were converts to Christianity, and Paul and Barnabas “persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.”

How interesting it is that their Sabbath worship is spoken of in the context of continuing in God’s grace!
Re: Is Sunday The Christian Sabbath? by Scholar8200(m): 7:38pm On Oct 17, 2016
blueAgent:
n

Moses was more like a Law Bearer not giver. a mere Mortal cannot be the giver of God's law.
The Bible confirmed that God himself spoke the Ten commadments .

www.the-ten-commandments.org/were-the-ten-commandments-abolished.html
But the Bible is unequivocal:

[b]For Moses gave us only the Law with its rigid demands and merciless justice, while Jesus Christ brought us loving forgiveness as well
[/b]John 1:17
Re: Is Sunday The Christian Sabbath? by DoctorAlien(m): 7:40pm On Oct 17, 2016
Modern critics of the Sabbath try to label Sabbathkeepers as legalists who are aliens to the grace of the gospel. Not so the writers of the Bible, who constantly associate obedience with true salvation by faith. In Acts 16:13 we have positive proof that Paul kept the Sabbath even when there was no synagogue and no Jews. He was ministering in Greece, where there were only a few scattered Jews and no synagogue at all. What did he do on the Sabbath? “And on the sabbath we went out of the city by a river side, where prayer was wont to be made; and we sat down, and spoke unto the women which resorted thither.”

Even with no church to attend, the apostle sought out a spot where religious worship was carried on—a place of prayer by the river—and preached to those who went there. Surely, no one can fail to discern Paul’s deep commitment to the Sabbath as we follow him in this unusual outdoor mission.
Re: Is Sunday The Christian Sabbath? by DoctorAlien(m): 7:43pm On Oct 17, 2016
Just suppose this Macedonian
experience had taken place on the first day of the
week instead of the Sabbath. Without question, it
would be cited as absolute evidence for Sunday
worship, and we would have to concur. But what possible arguments can one present against this example of Paul in true Sabbathkeeping?

Again, we read about Paul’s customary practice in these words, “And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures” (Acts 17:2). “And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks” (Acts 18:4).

Finally, we cite the great apostle’s personal testimony that he never kept one Sunday holy in his whole life. Just before his death, Paul made this emphatic statement to the Jewish leaders, “Men and brethren, though I have committed nothing against the people, or customs of our fathers, yet was I delivered prisoner from Jerusalem into the hands of the Romans” (Acts 28:17).

Cc: Scholar8200
Re: Is Sunday The Christian Sabbath? by DoctorAlien(m): 7:46pm On Oct 17, 2016
Think for a moment! If Paul had ever deliberately broken the Sabbath, or kept another day than the seventh, he could not have declared truthfully that he had done nothing against Jewish custom. On the strength of this unqualified declaration by a man of unimpeachable integrity, we close the search for Sunday keeping authority in the Bible. It just is not there.

Had we been able to find it, our religious obligation would, without doubt, be much easier to fulfill. We would have the support and example of most of the great religious institutions of the land, both Protestant and Catholic.

But we are not looking for the most popular way or the most convenient way; we are looking for the Bible way. And we have found it. In all honesty, we must declare that the prevailing custom of keeping a different day from the one commanded in the great handwritten law of God is contrary to the Word which will finally judge
us.

Cc: Scholar8200
Re: Is Sunday The Christian Sabbath? by Scholar8200(m): 7:49pm On Oct 17, 2016
DoctorAlien:
There are some very interesting points in these dynamic verses that validate the Sabbath practices of Paul and his fellow Christians. After preaching in the synagogue, where the Gentiles were not permitted to enter, Paul was besieged by the Gentiles with an appeal to preach to them “the next Sabbath.” Many have charged that Paul only preached in the synagogues on the Sabbath because he had a ready-made crowd of Jews to work on. This is a false claim. In this instance, Paul made an appointment to minister to the Gentiles on the following Sabbath, and according to verse 43, many of those who heard him that day were “proselytes” to the faith. This means they were converts to Christianity, and Paul and Barnabas “persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.”

How interesting it is that their Sabbath worship is spoken of in the context of continuing in God’s grace!

THEY WERE NEW, RECENT PROSELYTES STILL AMONG THE JEWS WHERE PAUL MET THEM HENCE WE CANT BASE THIS ON THEM.


Now let's see the setting:
The chapter is Acts 13

But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia, and went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and sat down. 15 And after the reading of the law and the prophets the rulers of the synagogue sent unto them, saying, Ye men and brethren, if ye have any word of exhortation for the people, say on. 16 Then Paul stood up, and beckoning with his hand said, Men of Israel, and ye that fear God, give audience.
14-16

Here Paul and his travel companion arrived at a place where there were Jews who had a synagogue and met there every sabbath according to their law. Note that 1. The audience here was not the Church; 2. Some gentiles were also in the synagogue having being inducted into judaism; they too were not the Church at least not at this time



42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
42

Here the gentiles, having been used to the sabbath worship requested that Paul & co will return the next sabbath. They did not realize that preaching could be done anywhere, not only on sabbaths!!!



Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, [size=18pt]It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you[/size]: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles
46

Here the Jews reject the Gospel, note Paul's major reason for going 1st to them in their synagogue! Up till this time, there was no Church there!


And the word of the Lord was published throughout all the region 49

When the jews in the synagogue rejected, Paul & co went out and did not return to the synagogue but preached in all the region!

If anything is misrepresented, kindly highlight else, it is WRONG to say based on this chapter, that the early Church kept the sabbath!
Re: Is Sunday The Christian Sabbath? by DoctorAlien(m): 7:49pm On Oct 17, 2016
No amount of popular, majority opinion can annul the weighty testimony of a plain “Thus saith the Lord.” We must stand upon the Bible and the Bible alone for our doctrine on this subject.

The Word of God declares, “The seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work” (Exodus 20:10). Until we find some indication in the Bible that God retracted that moral law which He introduced to the world with such a fanfare of power and grandeur, we will accept the Ten Commandments as still relevant and binding today. God said what He meant, and He meant what He said.

Some argue that God exempts us from the fourth commandment because it is impossible to keep the seventh day in the competitive, industrialized society in which we have to earn a living.
Re: Is Sunday The Christian Sabbath? by DoctorAlien(m): 7:52pm On Oct 17, 2016
It is undoubtedly true that Satan has manipulated the economic world to the distinct disadvantage of the Sabbathkeeper, but Godhas never required the impossible.

It is never necessary to break one of God’s commandments for any reason. You may say, “But my employer requires that I work on Saturday, and I can’t let my family starve.” The answer to that dilemma was given by our Lord long ago in the Sermon on the Mount. He said “But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you” (Matthew 6:33). The preceding verse defines “these things” as food, clothes, and job. Jesus is simply telling us that if there is ever a conflict between obeying Him and obeying our employer, we should put Him first. Material considerations should never be made more important than doing God’s will.
Re: Is Sunday The Christian Sabbath? by DoctorAlien(m): 7:54pm On Oct 17, 2016
In every case, God honors the faith of a Christian
who decides to keep the Sabbath regardless of
what happens to his job. Many times God works
miracles by making special arrangements for the
Sabbathkeeper. In some cases, He allows His children to be tested by losing their jobs, and then opens up better ones in response to their faith. Nevertheless, the “things” are always added when we trust Him and obey, regardless of the circumstances.

The real secret of keeping the Sabbath of the Lord is to have the Lord of the Sabbath in our hearts! It is love that leads God’s children to choose death rather than disobedience to one of His commandments. Jesus said, “If ye love me, keep my commandments” (John 14:15). The apostle John defined love in these words, “For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments” (1 John 5:3).

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