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Re: MTN Illegally Transferred 'mind Boggling' Sum Out Of Nigeria- Yahoo News by Nobody: 6:49am On Oct 21, 2016
plaetton:
Is MTN not entitled to transfer THEIR profits, their OWN money, to their home country ?

If we don't allow foreign companies to transfer their profits to their home countries, then why exactly would any foreign company be foolish enough to come and invest in our economy ?

MTN electing to transfer their huge accumulated profits over the years is simply a vote of no confidence in the present managers of the Nigerian economy.

I have always said it that this clueless government has been waging a moronic war against CAPITAL, a war that it is surely guaranteed to loose, .. unfortunately, to the detriment of 180m Nigerians.
This is the kind of comments you read on Nairaland.Govt is trying to work, some guys are pulling them down... Youths that do not know what they are saying.. the accusation is illegal transfer of money outside Nigeria. Do you know what effect that can have on Nigeria?? .. ofcos it is their money but their are rules they should have followed.

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Re: MTN Illegally Transferred 'mind Boggling' Sum Out Of Nigeria- Yahoo News by Nobody: 6:49am On Oct 21, 2016
KingRex1:
Glo shares continually goes up n Mtn doesn't? There're definitely tryna get back at ncc nd naija at large. MTN should just go n let glo thrive in glory.
MTN, it Will never be well with its inventor.

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Re: MTN Illegally Transferred 'mind Boggling' Sum Out Of Nigeria- Yahoo News by KingRex1(m): 6:54am On Oct 21, 2016
JixNation:

MTN, it Will never be well with its inventor.
Lol, babaly
Re: MTN Illegally Transferred 'mind Boggling' Sum Out Of Nigeria- Yahoo News by Nobody: 6:56am On Oct 21, 2016
KingRex1:
Lol, babaly
morning sir.
Re: MTN Illegally Transferred 'mind Boggling' Sum Out Of Nigeria- Yahoo News by awakeuche(m): 6:56am On Oct 21, 2016
plaetton:
Is MTN not entitled to transfer THEIR profits, their OWN money, to their home country ?

If we don't allow foreign companies to transfer their profits to their home countries, then why exactly would any foreign company be foolish enough to come and invest in our economy ?

MTN electing to transfer their huge accumulated profits over the years is simply a vote of no confidence in the present managers of the Nigerian economy.

I have always said it that this clueless government has been waging a moronic war against CAPITAL, a war that it is surely guaranteed to loose, .. unfortunately, to the detriment of 180m Nigerians.
i may not exactly be Nigeria's strongest advocate, but do you realize how damaging it will be for our economy if investors keep transferring huge profits out of the country without paying tax to government? It simply means the company is robbing Nigerians without giving anything back in return, in lay terms its like an igboman who rents your land for a pittance, makes billions from his business and complains to you of bad economy to avoid rent increase while transferring his billions to develop his own community without impacting in yours first where he makes his billions... This should clearify two points

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Re: MTN Illegally Transferred 'mind Boggling' Sum Out Of Nigeria- Yahoo News by saintdennis(m): 6:58am On Oct 21, 2016
plaetton:
Is MTN not entitled to transfer THEIR profits, their OWN money, to their home country ?

If we don't allow foreign companies to transfer their profits to their home countries, then why exactly would any foreign company be foolish enough to come and invest in our economy ?

MTN electing to transfer their huge accumulated profits over the years is simply a vote of no confidence in the present managers of the Nigerian economy.

I have always said it that this clueless government has been waging a moronic war against CAPITAL, a war that it is surely guaranteed to loose, .. unfortunately, to the detriment of 180m Nigerians.


WTF is this one saying?

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Re: MTN Illegally Transferred 'mind Boggling' Sum Out Of Nigeria- Yahoo News by Nobody: 6:58am On Oct 21, 2016
seunmsg:


Go and read the OP again and stop making illogical comments. MTN has been transferring the money since 2006 and the previous PDP governments did nothing about it. In fact, officials of the past regimes collaborated with them to perpetrate this scam against the Nigerian people. We should commend the present government for bringing this out in its bid to rid the country of all sorts of corruption instead of calling the war on corruption a moronic war.

Going forward, MTN should be forced to enlist on the Nigerian stock exchange. By so doing, management will be more diffuse and they will have to make more public disclosure of their financial statements. Regulators and interested members of the public will also be able to monitor them more effectively on issues like capital flight.

Force as in put gun for their head and pull the trigger abi? lol...I smell jealousy and laziness here. We tax them, we sold licence to them, we killed Mtel, we want to kill MTN...haba! call a spade a spade...lets say no to laziness and jealousy.

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Re: MTN Illegally Transferred 'mind Boggling' Sum Out Of Nigeria- Yahoo News by martineinstein(m): 7:03am On Oct 21, 2016
plaetton:
Is MTN not entitled to transfer THEIR profits, their OWN money, to their home country ?

If we don't allow foreign companies to transfer their profits to their home countries, then why exactly would any foreign company be foolish enough to come and invest in our economy ?

MTN electing to transfer their huge accumulated profits over the years is simply a vote of no confidence in the present managers of the Nigerian economy.

I have always said it that this clueless government has been waging a moronic war against CAPITAL, a war that it is surely guaranteed to loose, .. unfortunately, to the detriment of 180m Nigerians.
u appeared to be smart in thinking....but u are a typical example of an educated illiterate

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Re: MTN Illegally Transferred 'mind Boggling' Sum Out Of Nigeria- Yahoo News by saintdennis(m): 7:03am On Oct 21, 2016
wristbangle:
If MTN chooses to leave Nigeria, they will be on the loosing side more. Imagine 35percent of their mainstream are in the most populous country in Africa.

Meanwhile these crooks are extremely corrupt due to the crusade of calibres at the helm of power hence giving them the opportunity to practice illegal acts.

Can a Nigerian company if they invest in SouthAfrica do this kind of act?

Bro I laugh when people claim MTN will pull out of naija... dem no fit

How will they move all their infrastructure?

It only means they will have to sell off their assets like econet-vmobile-zain

So who will loose in the long run? Especially since MTN would not be able to come back to naija @all @all

So in any situation IT IS NAIJA N NIGERIANS that stand to gain.

Per the bolded @all... by now the Nigerian firm would be sealed

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Re: MTN Illegally Transferred 'mind Boggling' Sum Out Of Nigeria- Yahoo News by emperorAY(m): 7:05am On Oct 21, 2016
The government should do d needful n collect evry penny of Tax entitled to Nigeria, wat is illegal is illegal.somepeople will be going to jail if this were to be in Europe

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Re: MTN Illegally Transferred 'mind Boggling' Sum Out Of Nigeria- Yahoo News by Titaca(m): 7:08am On Oct 21, 2016
HungerBAD:
By Tiisetso Motsoeneng and Camillus Eboh

JOHANNESBURG/ABUJA (Reuters) - The amount of money which South Africa's MTN Group <MTNJ.J> is alleged to have illegally moved out of Nigeria is "mind boggling", a Nigerian lawmaker said on Thursday at the start of a parliamentary investigation into the telecoms company.

He did not specify what the alleged amount might be.

Nigeria's upper house of parliament agreed last month to investigate whether the company unlawfully repatriated $13.92 billion between 2006 and 2016.

MTN shares fell 3.2 percent to more than six-year lows after Bloomberg quoted a senator as saying the amount could be "outrageously higher". The shares later pared some losses.

The accusations of illegal money transfers were denied by MTN Nigeria Chief Executive Ferdi Moolman, who appeared at the hearing.

"MTN categorically denies all suggestions that its bankers in strict violation of the FEMM Act (Foreign Exchange (Monitoring and Miscellaneous Act) and Foreign Exchange Manual, repatriated $13.92 billion illegally out of Nigeria," said Moolman.

The allegation is the latest setback for Africa's biggest telecoms firm in its most lucrative but increasingly most problematic market, coming months after it agreed to pay a greatly reduced fine of 330 billion naira ($1.08 billion) to end a long running dispute over unregistered SIM cards.

MTN officials, Nigeria's trade minister and four lenders were due to appear at the parliamentary hearing, which started on Thursday.

"It is not what we can sweep under the carpet. We intend to get to the bottom of the fact, all of the fact, nothing but the fact," said Olusola Adeyeye, a senator, reading out a statement from Senate leader Bukola Saraki, said at the start of hearing.

Dino Melaye, the senator who first made the allegations in a motion passed by lawmakers last month, said he raised the issue "as a patriotic Nigerian, a whistleblower and an anti-corruption crusader", adding that he stood by the allegations.

MTN is the largest mobile network operator in Nigeria, Africa's most populous nation and has the continent's biggest economy. The country accounts for a third of MTN's revenue.

It follows a row between South African hotel and gaming group Sun International <SUIJ.J> and Nigeria's Economic and Financial Crimes Commission over its investment in a hotel operator in Lagos. The disagreement caused Sun International to pull out of Nigeria in August.

Rafiu Ibrahim, chairman of Nigeria's senate investigative panel on alleged illegal repatriation of funds, said on Wednesday that a team of international and local accountancy experts and lawyers had been assembled to look into the matter.

"Investors are nervous with what's happening with Nigeria purely because the past history has shown us that typically the government tends to move the goal posts," Independent Securities trader Ryan Woods said.

($1 = 304.5000 naira)


(Additional reporting by Ulf Laessing in Lagos; editing by Jason Neely and David Evans)

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/mtn-might-illegally-transferred-over-14-billion-nigeria-092407826--finance.html




Well if not for Nigerian that such can happen.how will such money be moved out of the country without Government aproval.,and this as been happening for years.
Thank you.!!!!present Govt.of transparency.
Let them face money laundring charges was found guilty.
More to come soon......

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Re: MTN Illegally Transferred 'mind Boggling' Sum Out Of Nigeria- Yahoo News by Nobody: 7:10am On Oct 21, 2016
plaetton:
Is MTN not entitled to transfer THEIR profits, their OWN money, to their home country ?

If we don't allow foreign companies to transfer their profits to their home countries, then why exactly would any foreign company be foolish enough to come and invest in our economy ?

MTN electing to transfer their huge accumulated profits over the years is simply a vote of no confidence in the present managers of the Nigerian economy.

I have always said it that this clueless government has been waging a moronic war against CAPITAL, a war that it is surely guaranteed to loose, .. unfortunately, to the detriment of 180m Nigerians.
I guess u don't know that they're laws guiding fund transfer from the country u make your profit...read up the international money transfer laws are cure yourself of this ignorance.... intelligently typing trash

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Re: MTN Illegally Transferred 'mind Boggling' Sum Out Of Nigeria- Yahoo News by Nobody: 7:14am On Oct 21, 2016
modath:


You don't have to care for something or someone your being reviles for reasons that can't be rationally justified but always care for the truth and always try to patiently read for comprehension sake.....soliciting for LIKES?

Didn't know "present managers have been there since "2006"? shocked shocked ... still wondering what the percentage of may 2015- oct 2016 is of "2006-2016"..... pointing one finger tinz!! cool


















You have always "said", but kindly share what you "said" to past governments when oil price was in the stratosphere? sad

There is criticism & there is deep seated bias!!

this is the only sense u've made so far this boy...kudos..at least u made valid points without involving PDP and APC
Re: MTN Illegally Transferred 'mind Boggling' Sum Out Of Nigeria- Yahoo News by Nobody: 7:14am On Oct 21, 2016
YorubaStinks:
What type of Fuckery is this ??

They're not Nigerian company or affiliated with Nigerian government, Mtn is a south African company, they have the fucking right to transfer any amount of money they want to any country in the world


What do you want them to do ??
Run their business and then deposit all of their money into a Nigerian Bank account ??

Your government fined Mtn 40 billion naira and they paid up
Now, you are looking for another Fuckery to extort money from them

Mtn have done better than the Nigerian government in the history of Nigeria, do you know how many jobs they provide for Nigerians ?? Do you know how much revenue they bring to Nigeria ?? Do you know how much they pay in taxes to the Nigerian government ??

In one sentence, tell me what the Nigerian government have ever done for any Nigerian, dead or alive


Fuckery


You like to pretend you are smart. You and I know that you are not quite as smart as you like to think that you are.

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Re: MTN Illegally Transferred 'mind Boggling' Sum Out Of Nigeria- Yahoo News by Excuzeme: 7:14am On Oct 21, 2016
YorubaStinks:
What type of Fuckery is this ??

They're not Nigerian company or affiliated with Nigerian government, Mtn is a south African company, they have the fucking right to transfer any amount of money they want to any country in the world


What do you want them to do ??
Run their business and then deposit all of their money into a Nigerian Bank account ??

Your government fined Mtn 40 billion naira and they paid up
Now, you are looking for another Fuckery to extort money from them

Mtn have done better than the Nigerian government in the history of Nigeria, do you know how many jobs they provide for Nigerians ?? Do you know how much revenue they bring to Nigeria ?? Do you know how much they pay in taxes to the Nigerian government ??

In one sentence, tell me what the Nigerian government have ever done for any Nigerian, dead or alive


Fuckery

Go to a proper school and learn how business is done properly, not that your "importation of fake products" that you call business!
You have no clue about what you are talking about.

Your hatred for the current Govt is making you rabid.
The "Lagoon" beckons for your type
. undecided undecided

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Re: MTN Illegally Transferred 'mind Boggling' Sum Out Of Nigeria- Yahoo News by BALLOSKI: 7:16am On Oct 21, 2016
plaetton:
Is MTN not entitled to transfer THEIR profits, their OWN money, to their home country ?

If we don't allow foreign companies to transfer their profits to their home countries, then why exactly would any foreign company be foolish enough to come and invest in our economy ?

MTN electing to transfer their huge accumulated profits over the years is simply a vote of no confidence in the present managers of the Nigerian economy.

I have always said it that this clueless government has been waging a moronic war against CAPITAL, a war that it is surely guaranteed to loose, .. unfortunately, to the detriment of 180m Nigerians.
shocked shocked


God! This is wrong!
Re: MTN Illegally Transferred 'mind Boggling' Sum Out Of Nigeria- Yahoo News by BALLOSKI: 7:17am On Oct 21, 2016
YorubaStinks:
What type of Fuckery is this ??

They're not Nigerian company or affiliated with Nigerian government, Mtn is a south African company, they have the fucking right to transfer any amount of money they want to any country in the world


What do you want them to do ??
Run their business and then deposit all of their money into a Nigerian Bank account ??

Your government fined Mtn 40 billion naira and they paid up
Now, you are looking for another Fuckery to extort money from them

Mtn have done better than the Nigerian government in the history of Nigeria, do you know how many jobs they provide for Nigerians ?? Do you know how much revenue they bring to Nigeria ?? Do you know how much they pay in taxes to the Nigerian government ??

In one sentence, tell me what the Nigerian government have ever done for any Nigerian, dead or alive


Fuckery
you need education.

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Re: MTN Illegally Transferred 'mind Boggling' Sum Out Of Nigeria- Yahoo News by james1(m): 7:18am On Oct 21, 2016
They now know?they better get tough with any company that moves hube sums of money illegally out of our country,capital flight on importation is killing our economy already and companies are still busy moving money through the back.the banks that assisted them should be sanctioned as well.the bank of their first chairman and major shareholder can not claim not to know anything about the illegal movement of billions of dollars.the cbn too.

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Re: MTN Illegally Transferred 'mind Boggling' Sum Out Of Nigeria- Yahoo News by KingOfAmebo(m): 7:19am On Oct 21, 2016
plaetton:
Is MTN not entitled to transfer THEIR profits, their OWN money, to their home country ?

If we don't allow foreign companies to transfer their profits to their home countries, then why exactly would any foreign company be foolish enough to come and invest in our economy ?

MTN electing to transfer their huge accumulated profits over the years is simply a vote of no confidence in the present managers of the Nigerian economy.

I have always said it that this clueless government has been waging a moronic war against CAPITAL, a war that it is surely guaranteed to loose, .. unfortunately, to the detriment of 180m Nigerians.

Don't just open your mouth and speak like a fool just because you have a chance for free speech...it is better you keep quite on issues you obviously have no knowledge about. Your senses should have told you a panel won't be set up to investigate the alleged money transfer if the money was transferred "legally".

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Re: MTN Illegally Transferred 'mind Boggling' Sum Out Of Nigeria- Yahoo News by lordkhalifa(m): 7:20am On Oct 21, 2016
Buhari and his cronies will collect bribe as usual and sweep this allegations under the carpet... clueless and incompetent ,unreasonable irritating cow sipping dung ,gworo chewing Fulani cow... Tufiakwa
Re: MTN Illegally Transferred 'mind Boggling' Sum Out Of Nigeria- Yahoo News by Charly68: 7:20am On Oct 21, 2016
YorubaStinks:
What type of Fuckery is this ??

They're not Nigerian company or affiliated with Nigerian government, Mtn is a south African company, they have the fucking right to transfer any amount of money they want to any country in the world


What do you want them to do ??
Run their business and then deposit all of their money into a Nigerian Bank account ??

Your government fined Mtn 40 billion naira and they paid up
Now, you are looking for another Fuckery to extort money from them
And you think you have spoken right, isn't it? Go outside there & see what obtains in other country. Is that how western nations permit others to remit money back to their home state without following rules. This is part of the change this Govt is talking about. Every sum moved out of the country must be subject available law of the land. They took us for granted whereas they won't allow that in their country.
Mtn have done better than the Nigerian government in the history of Nigeria, do you know how many jobs they provide for Nigerians ?? Do you know how much revenue they bring to Nigeria ?? Do you know how much they pay in taxes to the Nigerian government ??

In one sentence, tell me what the Nigerian government have ever done for any Nigerian, dead or alive


Fuckery
Re: MTN Illegally Transferred 'mind Boggling' Sum Out Of Nigeria- Yahoo News by highbeekeys(m): 7:21am On Oct 21, 2016
plaetton:
Is MTN not entitled to transfer THEIR profits, their OWN money, to their home country ?

If we don't allow foreign companies to transfer their profits to their home countries, then why exactly would any foreign company be foolish enough to come and invest in our economy ?

MTN electing to transfer their huge accumulated profits over the years is simply a vote of no confidence in the present managers of the Nigerian economy.

I have always said it that this clueless government has been waging a moronic war against CAPITAL, a war that it is surely guaranteed to loose, .. unfortunately, to the detriment of 180m Nigerians.
You No know book @ all...
Re: MTN Illegally Transferred 'mind Boggling' Sum Out Of Nigeria- Yahoo News by persius555(m): 7:21am On Oct 21, 2016
This govt continues to prove it cannot but trusted. There is more to this than the accusation. How can a company that has to invested its resources in the last fifteen years suddenly pill out $13 billion of the economy.
Sensationalistation of every issue of our economy will not help Nigeria. This is not how to build an economy.
Re: MTN Illegally Transferred 'mind Boggling' Sum Out Of Nigeria- Yahoo News by Charly68: 7:25am On Oct 21, 2016
KingOfAmebo:


Don't just open your mouth and speak like a fool just because you have a chance for free speech...it is better you keep quite on issues you obviously have no knowledge about. Your senses should have told you a panel won't be set up to investigate the alleged money transfer if the money was transferred "legally".
Many people don't think right,they are too narrow minded & extremely biased. No nation will permit such an act if it is true. This is part of the change we're talking about but many thought it is when Govt is sharing money that change has happened. Let us follow the law . Particularly the foreign nationals,they must know that there is a law in the land
Re: MTN Illegally Transferred 'mind Boggling' Sum Out Of Nigeria- Yahoo News by kaboninc(m): 7:25am On Oct 21, 2016
wristbangle:
If MTN chooses to leave Nigeria, they will be on the loosing side more. Imagine 35percent of their mainstream are in the most populous country in Africa.

Meanwhile these crooks are extremely corrupt due to the crusade of calibres at the helm of power hence giving them the opportunity to practice illegal acts.

Can a Nigerian company if they invest in SouthAfrica do this kind of act?

If MTN decides to leave Nigeria, there would be two loosers - MTN and Nigeria but we'll be the greater loser.
Re: MTN Illegally Transferred 'mind Boggling' Sum Out Of Nigeria- Yahoo News by jmoore(m): 7:26am On Oct 21, 2016
Is it your money? Instead of you to go afer polithievians that have looted your money, you are against a private company transferring its own money.

Once again, is it your money? Longer throats!!!!!!!!!!
Re: MTN Illegally Transferred 'mind Boggling' Sum Out Of Nigeria- Yahoo News by kaboninc(m): 7:27am On Oct 21, 2016
KingOfAmebo:


Don't just open your mouth and speak like a fool just because you have a chance for free speech...it is better you keep quite on issues you obviously have no knowledge about. Your senses should have told you a panel won't be set up to investigate the alleged money transfer if the money was transferred "legally".

It could also be true that the panel was set up to victimise someone. We've seen that before. We are just spectators, we just don't know what happens behind the scene
Re: MTN Illegally Transferred 'mind Boggling' Sum Out Of Nigeria- Yahoo News by KingOfAmebo(m): 7:28am On Oct 21, 2016
plaetton:
Is MTN not entitled to transfer THEIR profits, their OWN money, to their home country ?

If we don't allow foreign companies to transfer their profits to their home countries, then why exactly would any foreign company be foolish enough to come and invest in our economy ?

MTN electing to transfer their huge accumulated profits over the years is simply a vote of no confidence in the present managers of the Nigerian economy.

I have always said it that this clueless government has been waging a moronic war against CAPITAL, a war that it is surely guaranteed to loose, .. unfortunately, to the detriment of 180m Nigerians.

Congrats...you ended up displaying your ignorance in public, you are a wonderful example of a glorified educated illiterate. Shame on some Nigerian youths...you just CANNOT be one the youths that can lead this country, it would be a disaster to have your type in government or in business.
Re: MTN Illegally Transferred 'mind Boggling' Sum Out Of Nigeria- Yahoo News by KingOfAmebo(m): 7:31am On Oct 21, 2016
kaboninc:


It could also be true that the panel was set up to victimise someone. We've seen that before. We are just spectators, we just don't know what happens behind the scene

To victimized who?...have you forgotten that MTN is a corporation with share holders?
Re: MTN Illegally Transferred 'mind Boggling' Sum Out Of Nigeria- Yahoo News by kaboninc(m): 7:31am On Oct 21, 2016
Charly68:
Many people don't think right,they are too narrow minded & extremely biased. No nation will permit such an act if it is true. This is part of the change we're talking about but many thought it is when Govt is sharing money that change has happened. Let us follow the law . Particularly the foreign nationals,they must know that there is a law in the land

There are established laws, rules and regulations guiding reparation of funds to foreign land. In fact, its a major incentive such that government would make it easier and flexible for foreign investors to take back their capital into their country. Government can hep to reduce that outflow if they can sustain a conducive business environment.

However, let's see what laws were contravened by MTN in this regard.

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Re: MTN Illegally Transferred 'mind Boggling' Sum Out Of Nigeria- Yahoo News by kaboninc(m): 7:32am On Oct 21, 2016
KingOfAmebo:


To victimized who?...have you forgotten that MTN is a corporation with share holders?

To victimise either a promoter or someone highly connected or even out of ignorance. For example, it was alleged that the trade minister was at one time a director in MTN which was never true.

Yes I know MTN is a corporation with shareholders but this transcends it.

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