Maski87:
All you jealousy,guys on Nairaland, trump recently announced that they he will not touch nigerians legal or illegal because they are educated, religious and hard working also there is recession too much hunger, kidnappers bokoharam and radical isl.in nigeria

where you hear your own news...I know many people want to win so he can deport thier ex that left them after reaching America

ipledge10:
Na so my brother...lol greener pasture

lol, sister

joycesims:


lol, sister

ooh slim sister

CFCman:

Sir, I get that if an undocumented immigrant commits a crime, he/she would be arrested and possibly prosecuted.

But the very act of an immigrant entering the US without proper documentation or overstaying a visa isn't a criminal offense, according to US law.

Removal (deportation) proceedings before an immigration judge are not regarded as criminal proceedings; that's why petitioners (the affected immigrant in question) are not entitled to the services of an attorney, just like civil cases in the US.

I think we are talking about two different things here so I like to clarify:

1: Entering the U.S and staying beyond your visa is a crime but currently not regarded as criminal. It only bars you from future admission and it is thus regarded as a civil matter.

2. Entering the U.S under false pretenses or without a visa(Crossing the border, smuggling, false documents etc.) is a crime punishable by up to six months in jail.

3. Whether you entered with a visa and over stayed or entered without a visa, the moment you are caught for even a minor offense and a background check is done, you can be incarcerated pending a trial.

ipledge10:
What immigrant are doing in America is not small, both skilled and unskilled...I'm sure Trump will start that wall but he won't finish it. Trump that already said that after meeting Obama, he will leave some part policies of Obama care

i think people DAT shud b afraid of trump r those immigrants DAT dnt v papers,d criminals n Muslim terrorists.but trump shud b very careful so DAT his policies won't blow back on his face

abbey621:


Overstaying your visa.

Crossing the border

Coming to the U.S for studies and decided to stay forever without approval.

Using another person's identity

This guy be like my friend on student visa and Wish Trump could deport all undocumented immigrants... I still don't know why but I think it's selfishness

Trump manipulated the minds of Americans by telling them he will give them their fantasies and their desires. Example, when he said he is going to build a wall and Mexico will pay for it. Think about it this way, Someone is poor and he said he will buy a car with your money without your approval. Is that possible? He said he will bring back jobs to America from China. Is he the owner of the businesses? When you know it is difficult to reduce the labor cost in America. He said he will deport illegal immigrants, would he go to the streets and offices like the task force, yes, he can reduce it but cannot stop it. What else did he say?
It is just like how Buhari told Nigerians our fantasies and now he cannot achieve one. because it is not possible. The title is "Alice in Wonderland" It can only exist in wonderlands. But if he works hard, he can achieve that.
Would he resign from Trump Organization? I do not think so. That is conflict of interest. Americans, we could be wiser than most of them that made the choices.

priceaction:
Someone is advertising services here

My thought.
Do you know how long immigration reforms will take.
debate upon debate. Americans are too corrupt.

engrelvis:
this is a very good point.america is running a democratic system n nt one man show.is nt all trump ideas DAT will b approve by US legislative body.this is nt naija

America is not a democracy, it is a constitutional Republic, look up the difference.

Indeed. Does Nigeria look as if thr z any progess @ all especially economy

iluvpomo:
Donald Trump can go and hug wet transformer. We are staying here to make Nigeria great again.

RaeMystix:

You ought to realize that the Senate, House of rep are lead by majority of the Republicans that support majority of Trumps decisions.
During the last Election Republicans won the Senate seat by 51 to 48 Democrats and the House of rep by 238 republicans to 193 democrats. House of rebs needs 218 for full control. America is screwed for the next four years.

my brother america is nt Nigeria. In Nigeria when executive is d same as senate there is always agreement BTW dem in term of passing laws. America is not like DAT.there always DAT one or two lone wolves of d same party DAT will put spanner in d wheel

ipledge10:
This guy be like my friend on student visa and Wish Trump could deport all undocumented immigrants... I still don't know why but I think it's selfishness

Trust me I'm far from your friend, my passport is BLUE! The real selfishness are those who would overstay their visa or come here under false pretenses. Everyone keeps wondering why the U.S denies so many visa applications from Nigeria, this is the reason right here, overstaying visas, coming here illegally would only make it harder for those with valid reasons to get here. Illegal immigration is a slap in the face on all law abiding citizens!

engrelvis:
this is a very good point.america is running a democratic system n nt one man show.is nt all trump ideas DAT will b approve by US legislative body.this is nt naija

Rubbish

He is not bringing any new idea

He is only trying to implement the existing laws

The penalty for illegal immigrants is deportation

abbey621:


Trust me I'm far from your friend, my passport is BLUE! The real selfishness are those who would overstay their visa or come here under false pretenses. Everyone keeps wondering why the U.S denies so many visa applications from Nigeria, this is the reason right here, overstaying visas, coming here illegally would only make it harder for those with valid reasons to get here. Illegal immigration is a slap in the face on all law abiding citizens!

gbam!very correct

engrelvis:
my brother america is nt Nigeria. In Nigeria when executive is d same as senate there is always agreement BTW dem in term of passing laws. America is not like DAT.there always DAT one or two lone wolves of d same party DAT will put spanner in d wheel

So you say. We shall see what happens.

abbey621:


Trust me I'm far from your friend, my passport is BLUE! The real selfishness are those who would overstay their visa or come here under false pretenses. Everyone keeps wondering why the U.S denies so many visa applications from Nigeria, this is the reason right here, overstaying visas, coming here illegally would only make it harder for those with valid reasons to get here. Illegal immigration is a slap in the face on all law abiding citizens!

How did you go about getting your blue passport?

If you are referring to those born in the US after their parents illegally migrated there. Those babies are citizens and cannot be deported, but the issue is deporting the illegal immigrant parents will break up the family unless the US citizen children move with them until the children turn 18 and can file for their parents.

If you mean babies who their parents took them to the US illegally, well unfortunately while it may sound harsh they are still illegal and by the law can be deported along with their parents who are also illegal immigrants.

One thing to note though is Trump is targeting illegal immigrants who have been committing crimes in the US i.e. people who come illegally and then get into drugs, stealing, murder etc. He is not targeting law abiding people who migrated illegally for economic purposes. At least not yet.

shinarambo1:

What of those thst arrived as babies or toddlers...are they criminals too?

Some people would just open mouth "gbaga" and exhale rubbish.

That you're PRIVILEGED shouldn't make you call another person a LAZY man.

Why wishing evil on people cos you think (just as of this moment), you're better than them.

So many of the so called illegal immigrants, esp from Nigeria have through this sojourn, turned the fortune of their respective families around. Some youths are in higher institution of learning right now just because their brother/sister took that risk and became that "illegal immigrant".
Some fathers have been saved from hypertension, mothers high BP (that could have been as a result of seeing their children still struggling without hope in Nigeria after several yrs of joblessness ) cos their offspring took that decision and have become so responsible that they never joke with their parents wellbeing/health.


Majority of Naijas that travel both legally and illegally have in no immeasurable ways become great source of blessings unto their numerous friends and families. Its so so annoying seeing many people right here condemning them. Just same way I see some e.diots condemning people people trying to stay away from crime by hawking gala and beverages in traffic. Live and let's live.

I agree it's a crime or whatever definition its tagged, however, we should not be too fast at wishing woes on people who aren't fortunate to be " citizen" but have been law-abiding as they could. Don't let us forget the economic impact of diaspora transactions on this our staggering economy. The billions sent home (Remember through either legal or illegal stay) could not be wished away. So far you're not engaging in any criminal activities, I don't wish you evil. 'nuff said.

abbey621:


Trust me I'm far from your friend, my passport is BLUE! The real selfishness are those who would overstay their visa or come here under false pretenses. Everyone keeps wondering why the U.S denies so many visa applications from Nigeria, this is the reason right here, overstaying visas, coming here illegally would only make it harder for those with valid reasons to get here. Illegal immigration is a slap in the face on all law abiding citizens!

Basically.
Not many people seem to realize this.

Maski87:
All you jealousy,guys on Nairaland, trump recently announced that they he will not touch nigerians legal or illegal because they are educated, religious and hard working also there is recession too much hunger, kidnappers bokoharam and radical isl.in nigeria

Are you for real?

RaeMystix:

You ought to realize that the Senate, House of rep are lead by majority of the Republicans that support majority of Trumps decisions.
During the last Election Republicans won the Senate seat by 51 to 48 Democrats and the House of rep by 238 republicans to 193 democrats. House of rebs needs 218 for full control. America is screwed for the next four years.

Theoretically, you are correct but to a large extent, you are not.

First, the filibuster rule is still in place to a large extent in the Senate, which means the minority Democrat Senators will have a say in bills.

Second, you only need 3 Senators from the GOP side,to flip on each bill that require simple majority votes and there are more than 3 GOP senators that are from blue states, who will gauge the tone and will of their constituents on each bill before voting.

Third, America is not a democracy, it is a constitutional Republic, which means Americans have certain enumerated inalienable rights that no President, Senators, Congress or majority of America citizens can take away.

Fourthly, Politicians in American always listen to their constituents and knows that, their jobs & seats are not guaranteed, the next time around, if they screw them.

Remember that, Trump is not a politicians, he does not know the inner workings of the US establishment. Some of his utterances during the campaign are against Republicans conservative values and if you look at his current transition team, they are made up of career Republican politicians and his rumored picks for various positions are the same. Which means, though something's will change, but you will be highly disappointed if you expect a drastic change or even most of the things he mentioned on the campaign trail coming to past.

Campaigning is one thing, governorship is another.

GetUmad:
Some people would just open mouth "gbaga" and exhale rubbish.

That you're PRIVILEGED shouldn't make you call another person a LAZY man.

Why wishing evil on people cos you think (just as of this moment), you're better than them.

So many of the so called illegal immigrants, esp from Nigeria have through this sojourn, turned the fortune of their respective families around. Some youths are in higher institution of learning right now just because their brother/sister took that risk and became that "illegal immigrant".
Some fathers have been saved from hypertension, mothers high BP (that could have been as a result of seeing their children still struggling without hope in Nigeria after several yrs of joblessness ) cos their offspring took that decision and have become so responsible that they never joke with their parents wellbeing/health.


Majority of Naijas that travel both legally and illegally have in no immeasurable ways become great source of blessings unto their numerous friends and families. Its so so annoying seeing many people right here condemning them. Just same way I see some e.diots condemning people people trying to stay away from crime by hawking gala and beverages in traffic. Live and let's live.

I agree it's a crime or whatever definition its tagged, however, we should not be too fast at wishing woes on people who aren't fortunate to be " citizen" but have been law-abiding as they could. Don't let us forget the economic impact of diaspora transactions on this our staggering economy. The billions sent home (Remember through either legal or illegal stay) could not be wished away. So far you're not engaging in any criminal activities, I don't wish you evil. 'nuff said.

Why then do we bother with having laws, we should just do away with all the laws and live like animals. By your reasoning as long as the end justifies the means nothing can go wrong. I have some examples that would help to put things in perspective for you:

1. Emeka/Haruna/Bolaji got a visiting visa and upon arrival to the U.S decided they were not going back. Emeka/Haruna/Bolaji cannot work in a high paying job because they do not have the proper papers hence they must result to stolen identities and forgery in order to get a job that pays higher. Emeka/Haruna/Bolaji have broken two laws, overstaying their visa and identity theft.

2. Bimbo/Ngozi/Hadiza applied for visiting visa at the U.S embassy, they were all denied due to not having strong ties to Nigeria. The visa officer feared that they might over stay their visa. Bimbo/Ngozi/Hadiza won visa lottery in the year 2022, they had their interview at the U.S embassy but were denied on the grounds that Ngozi is related to Emeka who overstayed his visa, Hadiza is a sister to Haruna and Bimbo listed Bolaji as her husband.


These two scenarios shows the devastating consequences of illegal immigration on those qualified to come here legally. You might say they just want to survive and feed their families but so does a bandit that robs a bank because he wants to pay for his child's surgery. The law is the law and offenders should be shown no SYMPATHY!

linearity:


Theoretically, you are correct but to a large extent, you are not.

First, the filibuster rule is still in place to a large extent in the Senate, which means the minority Democrat Senators will have a say in bills.

Second, you only need 3 Senators from the GOP side,to flip on each bill that require simple majority votes and there are more than 3 GOP senators that are from blue states, who will gauge the tone and will of their constituents on each bill before voting.

Third, America is not a democracy, it is a constitutional Republic, which means Americans have certain enumerated inalienable rights that no President, Senators, Congress or majority of America citizens can take away.

Fourthly, Politicians in American always listen to their constituents and knows that, their jobs & seats are not guaranteed, the next time around, if they screw them.

Remember that, Trump is not a politicians, he does not know the inner workings of the US establishment. Some of his utterances during the campaign are against Republicans conservative values and if you look at his current transition team, they are made up of career Republican politicians and his rumored picks for various positions are the same. Which means, though something's will change, but you will be highly disappointed if you expect a drastic change or even most of the things he mentioned on the campaign trail coming to past.

Campaigning is one thing, governorship is another.

N

ksexiest:


How did you go about getting your blue passport?

Nice question, you beat me to it

linearity:


Theoretically, you are correct but to a large extent, you are not.

First, the filibuster rule is still in place to a large extent in the Senate, which means the minority Democrat Senators will have a say in bills.

Second, you only need 3 Senators from the GOP side,to flip on each bill that require simple majority votes and there are more than 3 GOP senators that are from blue states, who will gauge the tone and will of their constituents on each bill before voting.

Third, America is not a democracy, it is a constitutional Republic, which means Americans have certain enumerated inalienable rights that no President, Senators, Congress or majority of America citizens can take away.

Fourthly, Politicians in American always listen to their constituents and knows that, their jobs & seats are not guaranteed, the next time around, if they screw them.

Remember that, Trump is not a politicians, he does not know the inner workings of the US establishment. Some of his utterances during the campaign are against Republicans conservative values and if you look at his current transition team, they are made up of career Republican politicians and his rumored picks for various positions are the same. Which means, though something's will change, but you will be highly disappointed if you expect a drastic change or even most of the things he mentioned on the campaign trail coming to past.

Campaigning is one thing, governorship is another.

Nice write up but you are also wrong to an extent. Americans have certain rights but if you are an illegal immigrant and/or a criminal those rights are off the table. A lot of Trump's plans can be carried out via executive order. This means he does not need the consent of Congress. Trump is a businessman which means he has been dealing with government officials, business people and technocrats for a very long time, he is a strategists which means he is highly unpredictable, the majority in the House and Senate will only work in his favor and not against him as a majority of the American people believe that Washington is broken and power needs to return to the States. For example Obamacare, Trump could use a process called reconciliation to strike down parts of the law that is unfavorable, this requires less votes from Congress and will surely pass with little efforts. Other issues like NAFTA and TPP are also dead because majority of Republicans agrees with Trump, these are 3 crucial issues that could be fixed within 100 days of the Trump's presidency and will make him even more popular.

ksexiest:


How did you go about getting your blue passport?

The same way most people go about it after they get their citizenship through one of the following ways:

1: Born in the U.S

2: Married a U.S citizen after 3 years get citizenship

3: Employed by a U.S company and was able to adjust status and then after citizenship.

4: Green card qualified for through parents then after 5 years qualification for citizenship.

Anymore questions?

jcross19:
some of trump idea might not suit his part members ,I mean the republicans who are in upper chamber which will stand as stumbling block to his plans.

lies
Americans are not Nigerians.

they r united.

RaeMystix:

You ought to realize that the Senate, House of rep are lead by majority of the Republicans that support majority of Trumps decisions.
During the last Election Republicans won the Senate seat by 51 to 48 Democrats and the House of rep by 238 republicans to 193 democrats. House of rebs needs 218 for full control. America is screwed for the next four years.

Not all Republicans subscribe to Donald's vision!!!

RaeMystix:

You ought to realize that the Senate, House of rep are lead by majority of the Republicans that support majority of Trumps decisions.
During the last Election Republicans won the Senate seat by 51 to 48 Democrats and the House of rep by 238 republicans to 193 democrats. House of rebs needs 218 for full control. America is screwed for the next four years.

a big lie. Any man that all the love later mess things up . Use buhari as example buhari was loved by many now what happened? Obama was loved by many what happened? Mimiko in his time of campaign , he was loved by all now what happened. Trump might be one of the best president even in american history just watch out.

abbey621:


The same way most people go about it after they get their citizenship through one of the following ways:

1: Born in the U.S

2: Married a U.S citizen after 3 years get citizenship

3: Employed by a U.S company and was able to adjust status and then after citizenship.

4: Green card qualified for through parents then after 5 years qualification for citizenship.

Anymore questions?

I know all uve listed but my question is how did you get yours?

1) given birth in the us?

2) went for visiting/ schooling then got married to a citizen?

3) employed by a us citizen after entering with a visitor or student visa?

4) ur parents did either of the above listed options, became a citizen and u got your green card through them?

Don't list it like it's all rosy from the start, someone paid a price for the BLUE passport you highlighted in capslock........

jcross19:
a big lie. Any man that all the love later mess things up . Use buhari as example buhari was loved by many now what happened? Obama was loved by many what happened? Mimiko in his time of campaign , he was loved by all now what happened. Trump might be one of the best president even in american history just watch out.

Scoffs @ the Trump comment. Okay!.

Mcowubaba:

Not all Republicans subscribe to Donald's vision!!!

That I know. People like Paul Ryan and Rubio are examples of Republicans who are very much against Donald's vision. Just hope they do not change their views just to please the party/ presidency.