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Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 9:21am On Nov 24, 2016
paulGrundy:
HardMirror is a smart dude, he wants this thread to die a natural death by letting us wait for an imaginary investigation and then he'll disappear into thin air just like Otem and his Dr Belarius grin grin

I wonder what is fuelling this desperation.

bird wei call rain na im rain go beat tam cold grin grin hardmirror [size=18pt]I AM HERE DARRAM DARRAM [/size]
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by kevoh(m): 9:29am On Nov 24, 2016
MrOra:

6. . But Atheist (mostly scientists) do not believe in God and so believe in the big bang theory,
Questions 1 to 5 were not directed at me so I won't tackle them but let me quickly tackle the hasty generalisation.

1. Some scientists might be atheists but not all atheists are scientists. There are theists who happen to be scientists, albeit very intelligent ones e.g Ben Carson but somehow block out and refuse to accept confirmed scientific proofs whenever it is in conflict with their religion.

2. The Big Bang Theory is not an atheistic theory/dogma/doctrine. Some christians believe the theory. Some christians try to reconcile the theory with the Jewish creation story. Heck, the Big Bang theory was propunded by a christian, a Catholic priest. Some atheists don't even know what the theory is and some do not even care, all they ask for incontrovertible evidence that the god/deity you are pushing in everyone's face is the real one.

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Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by chrmn1: 9:54am On Nov 24, 2016
HardMirror:

And you will also claim to be a christian.
You claim I have admitted to being a fraud how?
Did you live my life for me?
I am telling you a brother died in the mentioned fellowship, can I reverse the past? I choose not to mention his name. And I won't no matter what you say. It won't change the fact about the dead brother. Let the so called alumni come and tell me he called his friends in the fellowship and it's a lie then. Not u or anyone else here that claim to be christians behave like one so u don't even have my respect talkless of me taking u folks serious. So keep it up, it changes nothing for me.

Oya let's settle this once for all:

The name of that person is:

a) none of the below
b) Pius ikedia
c) prophet mustapha
d) deacon ojueja

You can only choose one answer

Mirror's lies were near perfectly fabricated just to prove a moot point, namely: that not all Christians that became atheists were unserious Christians. I'm baffled at the length one can go. Shame on mirror and the lot that came out of their shells to applaud a big fat lie

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Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 9:59am On Nov 24, 2016
HardMirror:

I want it to die a natural death? And I am here replying since 4am? Does that look like someone who wants the thread to die?
Or maybe I shld ignore the thread altogether since it seems most of you have a short supply of intelligence.
grin
good you too dey daraam.. so answer sharply - MENTION NAME.. [size=18pt] obroda we have seen images of cultist killed and wasted on nairaland.... so those posting images not even name of the cultist, are notdoing the honor to the dead abi... [/size] so much for intelligence.... killed cultist named... on nairaland... hardmirror mentioned a spirikoko broza that died from fasting or na ulcer complication... on nairaland but to name the name, supernaturally believing atheist finds it damn hard (and hin name na HARD MIRROR) to MIRROR or MENTION name and is expecting another to name am forhim... Hail the illuminated one grin grin grin

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Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 10:02am On Nov 24, 2016
HardMirror:

Do you really think I care if you believe or not? What do you mean by I shld help my story?

ask the op what is the topic then you will see why you have to help your story grin grin grin
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 10:10am On Nov 24, 2016
analice107:

So you are saying the Hownow guy who put it to Hardmirrow that he is lying shd be the one to name the brother who died instead of Hardmirrow who made the claim?

Oh my brother in humanity, what is this naw?

I challenged you by telling you to give me proves, but you turn around mandating that i give you the proves instead if not your claims are true?

[size=18pt]The guy called him a liar. If he is not lying, he shd mention the deceased's name, and the investigation will start from there. Instead Hardmirrow called the association "So Called Alumni", and demanded that the so called Alumni shd provide the dead guys name. Did the Alumni made any claims? [/size]

Who is looking for Seun's applauds? Hardmirrow or The So Called Alumni?

Guy, you are flogging a dead cow. Hardmirrow is dead.


my sister see finishing ... grin grin abeg fellow athiest who make claim wei da guy say na lie? HARDMIRROR ...analice make hardmirror ignore the hownau dude an mention grin grin

Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 10:35am On Nov 24, 2016
raphieMontella:

why not go to the other names of Living persons hardmirror gave on his thread..and verify from them or so?..
Whats the obsession with a dead man...
For God's sake ! He's dead...
There are other names he gave on the thread...living persons...asin alive...completely verifiable...
He even said that the person commented on the thread..and i think i remember such...so start from there..haba!
You guys are looking at that statement from a wrong angle

good point but everything is open for analysis even the dead dude name.. so let him give us just the name... images of death cultist, where it occured are placed... etc and people can choose which part to focus on and its a choice... so let him simply state the NAME.
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 10:44am On Nov 24, 2016
HardMirror:

Put a gun to my head I won't mention his name. Now start saying your usual rubbish. Investigation my foot. Living people are there with their names, you did not investigate them, it is a dead person you want to investigate. It shows how sincere you folks are
no need for guns .. grin grin ...rubbish ... ... what you stated we ask and you termed it rubbish.... grin grin if you e sincere just NAME THE NAME... thanks for the living..but also the dead name is not a crime to name abi oh you go fear fear to be exposed... you dei daram ... i getmy kwesion ...abeg finish me by answering biko nu

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Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 10:48am On Nov 24, 2016
analice107:


Nairaland rule Number 8.


[size=18pt]Don't post false information on Nairaland. [/size]



Sir pls, ask this man to provide this infor or let your gavel come down on him.

You can not afford to run this place base on lies.
You may claim to be an atheist, and as an atheist your moral compass is shaky, but you are not the whole Nairaland community.

Without us, there wont be you here.

If people see you to be the man who lies and promote lies, you may just have to be in your forum all by yourself.

Even liars do not want their leaders to lie to them. Ask Nigerians.


Do the right thing sir.
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 10:51am On Nov 24, 2016
HardMirror:

Sounds like, "seun pls, massage our ego, ban hardmirror, do our bidding because we are christians (fake ones anyway). grin

pls seun dont ban hardmirrow nor the topic ... this is the best topic so far for both sons of God and mere mortals... grin grin
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 12:21pm On Nov 24, 2016
raphieMontella:

stop being a kid

am just been objective using his points to present facts.. he believes in the supernatural and dont you too
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 12:37pm On Nov 24, 2016
hardmirror

am blessed to read your testimony... it has also helped me to see that atheist on nairaland a vorocious gullible that if tommorrow kumuyi or any son of God, state that he has become an atheist they will jump to the highest heavens without reading carefully and cautiously... now Hhardmirror jas mirrored them as been "Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth." .... meanwhile @hardmirror based on this your post





HardMirror:
CONTINUATION...
I LOSE MY FAITH IN THE BIBLE, Jesus and RELIGIOUS CONCEPT OF GOD.
Before I continue.
Miracles exists
Witchcraft
Speaking in tongues is real
[size=18pt]Everything supernatural about christianity is real. [/size]
What is not real is the reason behind it.
It is just like magic.
Real magic is does not exist, but that does not mean magic is not real. Magic is real as long as you are ready to overlook the tricks behind the magic and just enjoy the show.

https://www.nairaland.com/3078223/pastor-atheist-why-never-christian/5#45205356


my question is

I guess you don't want people to see the bolded, you don't want them to know that placebo, adrenaline, hypnosis, derangment, delusion, hallucinations, intelligent forecasting, cold reading are the secrets behind this . Just as tricks are the secrets of magic.
hope i quoted you HARDMIRROR

Are the bolded natural or supernatural... medical or magic?


thank you for staying through to make us educated in the following...
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by analice107: 12:37pm On Nov 24, 2016
HardMirror:

Sounds like, "seun pls, massage our ego, ban hardmirror, do our bidding because we are christians (fake ones anyway). grin
Am quite sure now that you did not even attend that school you claimed.

You are a liar.
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by HardMirror(m): 12:41pm On Nov 24, 2016
analice107:
Am quite sure now that you did not even attend that school you claimed.
You are a liar.
Hmmm You must be a spirit filled lady, only God could have revealed this to you

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Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by analice107: 12:45pm On Nov 24, 2016
raphieMontella:

you're looking at it from a wrong angle...
The hanhow guy never said he was a caccfite..he didnt ask or confirm from caccf..so we wait for his confirmation..
The name of the dead man doesnt really matter...
Hardmirror made a simple statement...----there was a ccaf brother who died in 2010 from ulcer complications..he was a program organizer etc..
the hanhow guy now..has to check if someone did die...
And report back to us...if no one did..then hardmirror made it up...if someone did die as stated..then hardmirror's story of being a futa alumni is correct...then you move on to other phases of the story and find another lie to expose...


if you're convinced he's lying...then try to expose him..not rants..
He gave names of living persons in the story..
One even commented or so..
So get to work..or he's not lying...simple
Hey Kid, allow adults to have a conversation.

He told him to mention the name of the dead guy, because the same year Hardmirror claimed the guy died was the same year he graduated from school, so will know.

If you are telling the truth, mention the dead guys name. He can not, maybe because he was never a student in that Campus to start with. You are Here with your mouth full of sand trying still speak.

Mentioning the guys name is not important, what is?

Raphael take a break, this lie is to big for you to sweep under the carpet.
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by analice107: 12:47pm On Nov 24, 2016
raphieMontella:

he was specific...2010 CACCF member...Organizer of programs etc..from ulcer complication
How many CACCF Members can die in 2010 with the specific details hardmirror gave?



No..
If the honnow abi hanow guy mentions the name of a cultist who died in a cult fight and hardmirror latches onto the name...then hardmirror is..its simple


its even supposed to work in your favour...it can be made into a trap
If nobody died in the fellowship that year..
The guy can give a name of someone who died from a different cause/is still alive..and if hardmirror says its him...he can then easily expose hardmirror..
Simple..stop the rants..wait on the guy



whats with the obsession with a dead man?
He gave other names in futa in his thread...
Why not start from there?

Move along Raphael.
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by analice107: 12:48pm On Nov 24, 2016
HardMirror:

Hmmm
You must be a spirit filled lady, only God could have revealed this to you
Liar Lair, Pants on fire.
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 12:57pm On Nov 24, 2016
HardMirror:

Hmmm
You must be a spirit filled lady, only God could have revealed this to you

hahaha placebo na supernatural/magic or medical/psychatrical grin grin your honorable mind could be helpfull to you hear grin grin
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 1:01pm On Nov 24, 2016
hardmirrow na your personal assistant open this thread and this is what he said



Christians, Point Out Hardmirror's LIES In "Pastor To Atheist"


placebo na supernatural/magic or medical/psychatrical?
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by OneManLegion(m): 2:01pm On Nov 24, 2016
All I see is wailing and gnashing of teeth from inconsolable Christians who are hellbent on deluding themselves and other gullible morons to reject what is obviously a credible story.

The Op, "Hardmirrow" gringrin has given enough names of living people upon whom these skeptics can begin their investigations, what's with their morbid obsession with the dead colleague? I mean, even Jesus said "let the dead bury the dead" so what's the business?

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Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by HardMirror(m): 2:17pm On Nov 24, 2016
OneManLegion:
All I see is wailing and gnashing of teeth from inconsolable Christians who are hellbent on deluding themselves and other gullible morons to reject what is obviously a credible story.

The Op, "Hardmirrow" gringrin has given enough names of living people upon whom these skeptics can begin their investigations, what's with their morbid obsession with the dead colleague? I mean, even Jesus said "let the dead bury the dead" so what's the business?
For people that can't spell mirror, one has to wonder if it worths taking them serious. Now they are saying I was never a student of FUTA, maybe na bread I go sell for FUTA. Lol
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 2:17pm On Nov 24, 2016
analice107:

I see you are not a mature person.
Now move along.

Those reading would have come to know the truth by now.

pls dont scare him to silence oh he needs to answer this questions oh abeg let him be around


hardmirror
biko stay and help us understand the link between the following and supernatural/magic




I guess you don't want people to see the bolded, you don't want them to know that [size=18pt] placebo, adrenaline, hypnosis, derangment, delusion, hallucinations, intelligent forecasting, cold reading are the secrets behind this .[/size] Just as tricks are the secrets of magic.


Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by mrmrmister: 2:22pm On Nov 24, 2016
HardMirror:

For people that can't spell mirror, one has to wonder if it worths taking them serious. Now they are saying I was never a student of FUTA, maybe na bread I go sell for FUTA. Lol
grin
I can't believe you're still doing this with them
You sef get time
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by Nobody: 2:25pm On Nov 24, 2016
analice107:

Hey Kid, allow adults to have a conversation.

He told him to mention the name of the dead guy, because the same year Hardmirror claimed the guy died was the same year he graduated from school, so will know.

If you are telling the truth, mention the dead guys name. He can not, maybe because he was never a student in that Campus to start with. You are Here with your mouth full of sand trying still speak.

Mentioning the guys name is not important, what is?

Raphael take a break, this lie is to big for you to sweep under the carpet.


What have you done about the names he had mentioned so far, have you make any move to verify them or you are simply less bothered
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 2:26pm On Nov 24, 2016

HardMirror:
CONTINUATION...
I LOSE MY FAITH IN THE BIBLE, Jesus and RELIGIOUS CONCEPT OF GOD.
Before I continue.
Miracles exists
Witchcraft
Speaking in tongues is real
Everything supernatural about christianity is real.
What is not real is the reason behind it.
It is just like magic.
Real magic is does not exist, but that does not mean magic is not real. Magic is real as long as you are ready to overlook the tricks behind the magic and just enjoy the show.

https://www.nairaland.com/3078223/pastor-atheist-why-never-christian/5#45205356

supernatural - of a manifestation or event) attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature.

magic- the power of apparently influencing the course of events by using mysterious or supernatural forces.

refrence google.

are these you stated based on the above supernatural/magic


I guess you don't want people to see the bolded, you don't want them to know that placebo, adrenaline, hypnosis, derangment, delusion, hallucinations, intelligent forecasting, cold reading are the secrets behind this . Just as tricks are the secrets of magic.

Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 2:28pm On Nov 24, 2016
mrmrmister:

grin
I can't believe you're still doing this with them
You sef get time

hardmirror dont allow this one make you abandon your opportunity to defend your story. like the one i asked above.
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 2:36pm On Nov 24, 2016
raphieMontella:

insults...okay oo...
wow pls show insults abeg you to tryharder
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by analice107: 2:59pm On Nov 24, 2016
oluwaseyi000:


What have you done about the names he had mentioned so far, have you make any move to verify them or you are simply less bothered
If you are sensible enough, you'd ask yourself the relevance of those names to the issue at hand.

What happened to you people? do you suffer from selective amnesia when has to do with Christianity.


Shd we go picking random names that have no relevance with this topic and talk about them?

Btw, i have not seen one single name he mentioned, if you have drop them here.

And, make sure the names are connected to this case.
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by analice107: 3:01pm On Nov 24, 2016
uvalued:


pls dont scare him to silence oh he needs to answer this questions oh abeg let him be around


hardmirror
biko stay and help us understand the link between the following and supernatural/magic



He will never answer you.
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by uvalued(m): 4:45pm On Nov 24, 2016
analice107:

He will never answer you.


yes i guess as much but hardmirror pls turn my guess to null by picking the challenge to answer ... supernatural vs medical
Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by NPComplete: 4:55pm On Nov 24, 2016
analice107:

Am quite sure now that you did not even attend that school you claimed.

You are a liar.

Of all the arguments against Hard mirror here, this is the dumbest. Really? Now u are claiming he didn't attend the school after he just about described the whole school almost to the tee? Try use ur head na.

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Re: Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads by analice107: 4:59pm On Nov 24, 2016
NPComplete:


Of all the arguments against Hard mirror here, this is the dumbest. Really? Now u are claiming he didn't attend the school after he just about described the whole school almost to the tee? Try use ur head na.
Before the close of today, You'll see proof that Hardmirror never attended that school and was never in the Fellowship he claimed. Just stick around.


Like i said before, any claims comes with investigation.

Why do you think he is declining to mention the name?

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