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The Origin Of Maulud - Part Of Islam Or Innovation by Nobody: 10:40am On Dec 09, 2016
Knowledgeable Muslims in the building should contribute in enlightening the forum on the origin of Maulud.

When does it start?

Is Maulud from Prophet (SAW) time or his companions or tabiun or tabiunat tabiun.?

Is it an Islamic duty? is there any reward?

Difference between Maulud and Christian birthday or Birthday of Jesus pbum ?

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Re: The Origin Of Maulud - Part Of Islam Or Innovation by 9inches(m): 10:56am On Dec 09, 2016
Innovation for sure, it did not happen or was endorsed during the time of Muhammad. The celebration of was introduced by the Shia fatimids and the Ottomans declared it an official holiday.

But nothing is wrong with celebrating the birthday of an accomplished warlord and a great leader to the muslims.

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Re: The Origin Of Maulud - Part Of Islam Or Innovation by waluga(m): 11:52am On Dec 09, 2016
There is nothing in the Qur’aan to say that we should celebrate the Mawlid or birthday of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). The Prophet himself (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not do this or command anyone to do it, either during his lifetime or after his death. Indeed, he told them not to exaggerate about him as the Christians had exaggerated about Jesus (upon whom be peace). He said: “Do not exaggerate about me as the Christians exaggerated about the son of Maryam. I am only a slave, so say, ‘The slave of Allaah and His Messenger.’” (Reported by al-Bukhaari). What has been reported is that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) made the day of his birth a day of worship, which is different to celebration. He was asked about fasting on Mondays, and he said: “That is the day on which I was born and the day on which I was entrusted with the Mission or when I was first given Revelation.” (Reported by Muslim, al-Nisaa’i and Abu Dawood).

Moreover, we know that the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them) were the people who loved the Prophet most. Was it reported that Abu Bakr, who was the closest of people to him and the one who loved him the most, celebrated the birthday of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)? Was it reported that ‘Umar, who ruled for twelve years, or ‘Uthmaan, did this? Was it reported that ‘Ali, his relative and foster son, did this? Was it reported that any of the Sahaabah did this? No, by Allaah! Is it because they were not aware of its importance, or did they not truly love the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)? No one would say such a thing except one who has gone astray and is leading others astray.

Did any of the imaams – Abu Haneefah, Maalik, al-Shaafi’i, Ahmad, al-Hasan al-Basri, Ibn Seereen – do this or command others to do it or say that it was good? By Allaah, no! It was not even mentioned during the first and best three centuries. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said in a saheeh hadeeth: “The best of mankind are my generation (or my century), then those who come after them, then those who come after them. Then there will come a people who will not care if their testimony comes before their oath or vice versa (i.e., they will not take such matter seriously).” (Reported by al-Bukhaari, Muslim and al-Tirmidhi). The celebration of the Prophet’s birthday appeared many centuries later, when many of the features of true religion had vanished and bid’ah had become widespread.

Thus this celebration became a sign of one’s love for the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)? But can it be possible that the Sahaabah, the imaams and the people of the best three centuries were unaware of it, and it was only those who came later who were aware of its importance?! What the Qur’aan tells us is that love of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is demonstrated by following the guidance he brought. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Say (O Muhammad): ‘If you (really) love Allaah, then follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allaah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

Say: ‘Obey Allaah and the Messenger.’ But if they turn away, then Allaah does not like the disbelievers.” [Aal ‘Imraan 3:31-32]

The first aayah explains that love is just a claim, but the proof of sincerity is following what the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) brought. The second aayah reaffirms the importance and necessity of obeying Allaah and His Messenger. Hence Allaah ended the aayah with a very stern warning in which those who refuse to obey are described as kaafirs, and Allah does not love the disbelievers. We ask Allaah to keep us safe from that. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told us of the danger of not obeying him, and the danger of adding to what he brought. The celebration of Mawlid or his birthday is indeed an addition to what he brought – as all the scholars agree. He said: “The best of speech is the Book of Allaah, and the best of guidance is the guidance of Muhammad. The most evil of things are those which are newly-invented (in religion), and every innovation is a going astray.” (Reported by Muslim and al-Nisaa’i).

We ask Allaah to protect us from bid’ah and to bless us by helping us to follow. Allaah knows best. May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad.#copied

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Re: The Origin Of Maulud - Part Of Islam Or Innovation by AdlatWorld(m): 11:55am On Dec 09, 2016
waluga:
There is nothing in the Qur’aan to say that we should celebrate the Mawlid or birthday of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). The Prophet himself (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not do this or command anyone to do it, either during his lifetime or after his death. Indeed, he told them not to exaggerate about him as the Christians had exaggerated about Jesus (upon whom be peace). He said: “Do not exaggerate about me as the Christians exaggerated about the son of Maryam. I am only a slave, so say, ‘The slave of Allaah and His Messenger.’” (Reported by al-Bukhaari). What has been reported is that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) made the day of his birth a day of worship, which is different to celebration. He was asked about fasting on Mondays, and he said: “That is the day on which I was born and the day on which I was entrusted with the Mission or when I was first given Revelation.” (Reported by Muslim, al-Nisaa’i and Abu Dawood).
Moreover, we know that the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them) were the people who loved the Prophet most. Was it reported that Abu Bakr, who was the closest of people to him and the one who loved him the most, celebrated the birthday of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)? Was it reported that ‘Umar, who ruled for twelve years, or ‘Uthmaan, did this? Was it reported that ‘Ali, his relative and foster son, did this? Was it reported that any of the Sahaabah did this? No, by Allaah! Is it because they were not aware of its importance, or did they not truly love the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)? No one would say such a thing except one who has gone astray and is leading others astray.
Did any of the imaams – Abu Haneefah, Maalik, al-Shaafi’i, Ahmad, al-Hasan al-Basri, Ibn Seereen – do this or command others to do it or say that it was good? By Allaah, no! It was not even mentioned during the first and best three centuries. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said in a saheeh hadeeth: “The best of mankind are my generation (or my century), then those who come after them, then those who come after them. Then there will come a people who will not care if their testimony comes before their oath or vice versa (i.e., they will not take such matter seriously).” (Reported by al-Bukhaari, Muslim and al-Tirmidhi). The celebration of the Prophet’s birthday appeared many centuries later, when many of the features of true religion had vanished and bid’ah had become widespread.
Thus this celebration became a sign of one’s love for the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)? But can it be possible that the Sahaabah, the imaams and the people of the best three centuries were unaware of it, and it was only those who came later who were aware of its importance?! What the Qur’aan tells us is that love of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is demonstrated by following the guidance he brought. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Say (O Muhammad): ‘If you (really) love Allaah, then follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allaah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
Say: ‘Obey Allaah and the Messenger.’ But if they turn away, then Allaah does not like the disbelievers.” [Aal ‘Imraan 3:31-32]
The first aayah explains that love is just a claim, but the proof of sincerity is following what the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) brought. The second aayah reaffirms the importance and necessity of obeying Allaah and His Messenger. Hence Allaah ended the aayah with a very stern warning in which those who refuse to obey are described as kaafirs, and Allah does not love the disbelievers. We ask Allaah to keep us safe from that. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told us of the danger of not obeying him, and the danger of adding to what he brought. The celebration of Mawlid or his birthday is indeed an addition to what he brought – as all the scholars agree. He said: “The best of speech is the Book of Allaah, and the best of guidance is the guidance of Muhammad. The most evil of things are those which are newly-invented (in religion), and every innovation is a going astray.” (Reported by Muslim and al-Nisaa’i).
We ask Allaah to protect us from bid’ah and to bless us by helping us to follow. Allaah knows best. May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad.#copied

Well said

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Re: The Origin Of Maulud - Part Of Islam Or Innovation by Amoto94(m): 11:57am On Dec 09, 2016
It is an innovation in the religion of Islam. None of the companions and those who followed them in good practiced it.

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Re: The Origin Of Maulud - Part Of Islam Or Innovation by usmanktg2(m): 11:58am On Dec 09, 2016
Keep debating it, while we keep celebrating it.
Assalamu Alayka Ya Rasulullah!!!

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Re: The Origin Of Maulud - Part Of Islam Or Innovation by OgologoDimkpa: 12:00pm On Dec 09, 2016
All I can say is that they are doing copy-copy. They want to Christians like Christmas having seen it is celebrated worldwide but alas nobody knows Eid-el-Malud embarassed
*runs out of thread*

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Re: The Origin Of Maulud - Part Of Islam Or Innovation by usmanktg2(m): 12:01pm On Dec 09, 2016
THE MAWLID-UN-NABI: Q & A

By: Shaykh Fakhruddin Owaisi al-Madani (South Africa)

Q1-What is the ruling (hukm) regarding celebrating the Mawlid-un-Nabi:

A1: Any action we do may be judged by the Shari ah as being of one of the following five categories:

-Fard (Obligatory)
-Mustahabb (Recommended)
-Mubah/Ja iz (Simply Permissible)
-Makruh (Discouraged)
-Haram (Forbidden)

Past and present Ulama from the four Madhabs (Hanafi, Shafi, Maliki and Hanbali) have considered the commemoration of the Prophet (SAW) birth as being Mubah, i.e. permissible, as there is no evidence in the Shari ah that prohibits such an event.

In fact, there is some evidence that actually supports the commemoration of the noble
birth. For example:

- Allah says in the Qur an:

Say in the Bounty of Allah and His Mercy, Let them rejoice . (Surah Yunus,
verse 58).

There is no greater bounty given to creation than the Holy Prophet (SAW).

- The Qur an narrates to us the stories of the births of Prophets Isa, Musa and Yahya (AS) in an honorable manner. As the greatest of the Prophets, the birth of Nabi Muhammad (SAW) is even more deserving of such attention.

- Imam al-Bukhari narrates that when the Prophet (SAW) was born, his uncle, the unbeliever Abu-Lahab freed the slave-girl Thuwaybah that brought him the good news, by gesturing to her with his finger. When Abu-Lahab passed away, his brother Sayyidna al-Abbas (RA) saw him in dream and asked him about his condition. He replied: I am in severe punishment, but my punishment is lessened every Monday as I am allowed to suck some water from that finger of mine with which I freed Thuwaybah .

- It is also narrated by Imam Muslim that the Prophet (SAW) used to fast on Mondays. When asked why, he (SAW) replied: That is the day I was born .

That is why many scholars have been very supportive of the Mawlid. For example, the great 9th Century Shafi i scholar Imam Jalaluddin al-Suyuti writes in his Al-Hawi lil Fatawi:

To commemorate the Mawlid, which is basically gathering people together, reciting parts of the Qu'ran, narrating stories about the Prophet's birth and the signs that accompanied it, then serving food, and afterwards, departing, is one of the good innovations; and the one who practices it gets rewarded, because it involves venerating the status of the Prophet and expressing joy at his honorable birth.

However, while commemorating the Mawlid cannot be considered Haram, it also must not be considered Fard. It must be understood that it is simply a beneficial practice that is nevertheless not obligatory.

Note, too, that while commemorating the Mawlid itself is only Mubah, many of the actions done in it are Mustahabb (Recommended) such as recitation of Salawat, coming together of Muslims, discussing the life of the Prophet (SAW), feeding the hungry etc.

People will undoubtedly be rewarded for these actions. Wa Llahu A lam.

Q2-Is commemorating the Mawlid un-Nabi a bid ah (an innovation)?

Bid ah refers to beliefs and practices that appeared after the era of the Holy Prophet (SAW). Broadly speaking, bidah s are acceptable or unacceptable depending upon whether or not they fall under the general principles and spirit of the Qur an and Sunnah.

Given this they will be classified according to the five Shari ah rulings mentioned above.

Therefore, some bidah s may be obligatory such as writing books on the din and the gathering of the Qur an and hadith into book form. Some may be recommended such as the translation of the Qur an, the congregational Tarawih prayer and the second adhan for Jumu ah. Some Bid ah s may simply permitted such as performing Eid Salah in Mosques, qira ah programs, Qur anic competitions and the commemoration of Mawlid as noted earlier. Depending upon the intention and results, such permitted bidah s may even become recommended.

Discouraged innovations would be to have the Holy Qur an on a cellphone, as some Ulama have said. Forbidden bidah s are any innovated beliefs and practices that are in clear violation of agreed upon principles and rulings of the Shari ah.

The hadith that states that every bidah is a misguidance refers to this last category of bid ah only as explained by hadith authority Imam al-Nawawi in his commentary on Sahih Muslim (Volume 6, p154):

What is meant by it is new matters that are not validated by the Shari ah. That - and that alone - is what are meant by innovations.

Q3-What is the ruling on standing up to recite Salawat (Salutations) and Salam (Greetings of Peace) upon the Prophet (SAW):

It is permissible if done with the intention of respecting the Prophet (SAW), and without the belief that it is obligatory. The Qur an has ordered us to present the Salam to the Prophet (SAW) in a respectful manner as implied in the verse Wa Sallimu Taslima i.e. And send worthy greetings of Peace upon him . (Qur an 33:56)

Furthermore, it is permissible in Islam to stand up to greet any honorable or beloved person. The Prophet (SAW) used to stand up to greet many people, including his beloved daughter Sayyidah Fatimah Zahra (RA).

Imam al-Bukhari narrates that once the Prophet (SAW) was sitting in the Mosque and saw a funeral passing by. So he immediately stood up in respect of it. He was then told that it was actually the funeral of a Jew. So he (SAW) replied; It is still a soul.

The Ulama have also deemed it permissible to stand up for a national anthem. It has for centuries been the custom in many Muslim lands to stand up when reciting the Salawat and Salam on the Prophet (SAW), especially upon hearing the news of his Birth, so as to display love, gratefulness and respect. This practice has been commended by Ulama from all 4 Madhhabs.

The Mufti of the Shafi i madhab of Medina al-Imam al-Sayyid Ja far al-Barzanji wrote in his Mawlid that:

Scholars of great character and knowledge have commended the practice of standing up at the mention of the Prophet (SAW) s birth. So glad-tiding to the one whose goal and purpose is to honor the Prophet (SAW).

This was written by him in Medina four centuries ago, and he referred to scholars before his time.

The Salawat can be recited in all positions: sitting as in the Jalsah (sitting position) in Salah, or standing as in the Salat-ul-Janazah or even while lying down.

Furthermore, it is general command of the Shariah to display all sorts of love, honor and veneration to the Prophet (SAW) [Qur an 7:157; 33:6 amongst others], as long as it does not involve any prohibited action. Wa Llahu A lam.

Q4-Is it possible for the Prophet (SAW) to be present at a Mawlid gathering?

The blessed body of the Prophet (SAW) is buried in Medina. But his Soul, like the souls of all Prophets and pious believers, is free to roam in the Kingdom of Allah to attend blessed gatherings. Evidence for this is what occurred on the Night of the Mi raj when all the Prophets gathered in al-Quds to meet and pray behind our Prophet (SAW). Many of them met him again in the Heavens.

Ibn al-Qayyim mentions in his Kitab al-Ruh that the famous Companion Sayyidna Salman al-Farisi (RA) said:

The souls of the believers are in a partition from the (visible) earth, they go anywhere they want to.

He also quotes the great Imam Malik as saying:

I was informed that the soul is free; it goes anywhere it wants to.

The above has also been confirmed by great Classical scholars such as Imam al-Suyuti and Imam Ibn-Hajar al-Haytami in their Fatawa.

However, a person who experiences the spiritual presence of the Prophet (SAW) at any gathering should normally keep such things to him or herself. In general, this is a matter of the unseen and it is best to not to delve into the issue unnecessarily.

Q5-What are the Riwayats popularly recited in Cape Town?

The Riwayats are basically narrations on the happenings of the noble Birth of the Prophet (SAW), compiled in a book from by the 16th century Mufti of the Shafi i madhab in Medina al-Imam al-Sayyid Ja far al-Barzanji. Whatever is mentioned in them is authentically sourced from the books of Hadith and Sirah (biographies of the Prophet). Its a blessing to recite them as it is a blessing to recite any hadith of the Prophet (SAW).

Muslim throughout the world recite these Riwayat during the blessed month of Mawlud. They are usually referred to in other parts of the world as Mawlid al-Barzanji.

Shaykh Fakhruddin Owaisi al-Madani is a Lecturer in Hadith at IPSA.
Sh. Fakhruddin completed a Master s dissertation on the issue of Mawlid and Bid ah at the University of Cape Town.

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Re: The Origin Of Maulud - Part Of Islam Or Innovation by Azujabeel(m): 12:01pm On Dec 09, 2016
Thanks for the Knowledge, may Allah grant our dearest country peace, harmony and wealth.

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Re: The Origin Of Maulud - Part Of Islam Or Innovation by blinkmoneyo(m): 12:01pm On Dec 09, 2016
9inches:
Innovation for sure, it did not happen or was endorsed during the time of Muhammad. The celebration of was introduced by the Shia fatimids and the Ottomans declared it an official holiday.

But nothing is wrong with celebrating the birthday of an accomplished warlord and a great leader to the muslims.
. it is an innovation in the religion so everything is wrong in celebrating it. the hadith narrated by Aisha (radiallahu anha) which said "any matter brought into this religion dat is nt part of it will be rejected" so no matter wat we do in the religion either we see it good or pious and it was nt done by the prophet or we have nt been asked to do by the prophet it is nt accepted. we do nt love the prophet more than himself or his companions, and non of Dem celebrated it. we ask Allah to increased us in knowledge.

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Re: The Origin Of Maulud - Part Of Islam Or Innovation by dimeji877(m): 12:03pm On Dec 09, 2016
Celebrating maulid is innovation
None of the early sahaba celebrated it

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Re: The Origin Of Maulud - Part Of Islam Or Innovation by Manihotspp: 12:05pm On Dec 09, 2016
Maulud Nabiy celebration especially when it appears inform of party,night gathering organised by one sheikh for women folk as commonly done is Haram.
As the prophet(SAW) said:Whatever is brought to our religion that I do not do nor my companions,will be completely rejected.

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Re: The Origin Of Maulud - Part Of Islam Or Innovation by talk2hb1(m): 12:12pm On Dec 09, 2016
Yeah
FriendChoice:

Knowledgeable Muslims in the building should contribute in enlightening the forum on the origin of Maulud.
When does it start?
Is Maulud from Prophet (SAW) time or his companions or tabiun or tabiunat tabiun.?
Is it an Islamic duty? is there any reward?
Difference between Maulud and Christian birthday or Birthday of Jesus pbum ?
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Can you provide evidence of getting a University Degree from either the Quran or any Hadith?
Re: The Origin Of Maulud - Part Of Islam Or Innovation by Nobody: 12:18pm On Dec 09, 2016
This post explains why it shouldn't be celebrated with evidences inclusive.

https://www.nairaland.com/3503680/reasons-why-should-not-celebrate

More information on
https://islamqa.info/en/219307
https://islamqa.info/en/249
https://islamqa.info/en/34497

FriendChoice:
Knowledgeable Muslims in the building should contribute in enlightening the forum on the origin of Maulud.
When does it start?
Is Maulud from Prophet (SAW) time or his companions or tabiun or tabiunat tabiun.?

No

Is it an Islamic duty? is there any reward?
No.

Difference between Maulud and Christian birthday or Birthday of Jesus pbum ?

There is no difference between any birthdays at all. They are all prohibited. There is no evidence or whatsoever that the prophet (peace and blessing be upon him) or the sahabas celebrated their birthdays.

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Re: The Origin Of Maulud - Part Of Islam Or Innovation by usmanktg2(m): 12:18pm On Dec 09, 2016
أقوال بعض كبار علماء الأمّة في مشروعيّة الاحتفال بالمولد النبوي الشريف :

1- قال الشيخ ابن تيمية رحمه الله : (فتعظيم المولد واتخاذه موسماً قد يفعله بعض النّاس , ويكون له فيه أجر عظيم لحسن قصده وتعظيمه لرسول الله صلّى الله عليه وآله وصحبه وسلّم ) اقتضاء الصراط المستقيم في مخالفة أصحاب الجحيم لابن تيمية (1/297)

2- قال الإمام أبو شامة شيخ الإمام النووي رحمهما الله : ( ومن أحسن ما ابتدع في زماننا ما يفعل كلّ عام في اليوم الموافق ليوم مولده صلّى الله عليه وآله وصحبه وسلّم من الصدقات والمعروف , وإظهار الزينة والسرور , فإنّ ذلك مع ما فيه من الإحسان للفقراء مشعر بمحبّته صلّى الله عليه وآله وصحبه وسلّم , وتعظيمه في قلب فاعل ذلك , وشكراً لله على ما منَّ به من إيجاد رسوله صلّى الله عليه وآله وصحبه وسلّم الذي أرسله رحمة للعالمين ) السيرة الحلبية لعلي بن برهان الدّين الحلبي (1/83- 84)

3- قال الإمام السّخاوي رحمه الله : ( لم يفعله أحد من السّلف في القرون الثلاثة , وإنّما حدث بعد , ثمّ لا زال أهل الإسلام من سائر الأقطار والمدن يعملون المولد , ويتصدّقون في لياليه بأنواع الصّدقات , ويعتنون بقراءة مولده الكريم , ويظهر عليهم من بركاته كلّ فضل عميم ) السيرة الحلبية لعلي بن برهان الدّين الحلبي (1/83- 84)

4- قال الإمام ابن الجزري رحمه الله : ( من خواصِّه أنّه أمان في ذلك العام , وبشرى عاجلة بنيل البغية والمرام ) السيرة الحلبية لعلي بن برهان الدّين الحلبي (1/83- 84)

5- قال الإمام السّيوطي رحمه الله : ( هو من البدع الحسنة التي يثاب عليها صاحبها ؛ لما فيه من تعظيم قدر النبيّ صلّى الله عليه وآله وصحبه وسلّم وإظهار الفرح والاستبشار بمولده الشريف ) الحاوي للفتاوي (1/292)

6- وقال أيضاً : ( يستحبُّ لنا إظهار الشكر بمولده صلّى الله عليه وآله وصحبه وسلّم , والاجتماع , وإطعام الطعام , ونحو ذلك من وجوه القربات , وإظهار المسرّات ) الحاوي للفتاوي (1/292)

7- وقال أيضاً : ( ما من بيت أو محلّ أو مسجد قُرِئ فيه مولد النبيّ صلّى الله عليه وآله وصحبه وسلّم إلا حفّت الملائكة أهل ذلك المكان , وعمهم الله تعالى بالرحمة والرضوان ) الوسائل في شرح المسائل للسّيوطي

8- قال الإمام ابن الحاج رحمه الله : ( فكان يجب أن نزداد يوم الاثنين الثاني عشر في ربيع الأول من العبادات , والخير شكراً للمولى على ما أولانا من هذه النعم العظيمة ؛ وأعظمها ميلاد المصطفى صلّى الله عليه وآله وصحبه وسلّم ) المدخل (1/361)

9- قال الإمام زيني دحلان رحمه الله : ( ومن تعظيمه صلّى الله عليه وآله وصحبه وسلّم الفرح بليلة ولادته , وقراءة المولد ) الدّرر السنيّة (190)

10- قال الإمام العراقي رحمه الله : ( إنّ اتخاذ الوليمة , وإطعام الطعام مُستحبٌّ في كلّ وقت , فكيف إذا انضمَّ إلى ذلك الفرح والسرور بظهور نور النبيّ صلّى الله عليه وآله وصحبه وسلّم في هذا الشهر الشريف , ولا يلزم من كونه بدعة كونه مكروهاً , فكم من بدعة مستحبّة بل قد تكون واجبة ) شرح المواهب اللدنّيّة للزرقاني

11- قال الإمام ابن حجر العسقلاني رحمه الله : ( أصل عمل المولد بدعة لم تنقل عن أحد من السّلف الصّالح من القرون الثلاثة, ولكنّها مع ذلك قد اشتملت على محاسن وضدّها , فمن تحرّى في عملها المحاسن , وجنّب ضدّها كان بدعة حسنة , وإلا فلا , وقد ظهر لي تخريجها على أصل ثابت في الصحيحين من أنَّ النبيّ صلّى الله عليه وآله وصحبه وسلّم قدم المدينة فوجد اليهود يصومون يوم عاشوراء , فسألهم فقالوا : هو يوم أغرق الله فيه فرعون , ونجّى موسى , فنحن نصومه شكراً لله تعالى , فيستفاد منه الشّكر لله على ما منَّ به في يوم معيّن من إسداء نعمة , أو دفع نقمة , ويعاد ذلك في نظير ذلك اليوم من كلّ سنة , والشكر لله يحصل بأنواع العبادة كالسجود والصيام والصدقة والتلاوة , وأيّ نعمة أعظم من النعمة ببروز هذا النبيّ نبي الرحمة في ذلك اليوم , وعلى هذا فينبغي أن يقتصر فيه على ما يفهم الشكر لله تعالى من التلاوة , والإطعام , وإنشاد شيء من المدائح النبويّة المحرّكة للقلوب إلى فعل الخير والعمل للآخرة , وأمّا ما يتبع ذلك من السماع واللهو وغير ذلك فينبغي أن يقال : : ما كان من ذلك مباحاً بحيث يقتضي السرور لا بأس بإلحاقه به , وما كان حراماً أو مكروهاً فيمنع , وكذا ما كان خلاف الأولى ) الفتاوى الكبرى (1/196)

12- قال الإمام ابن عابدين رحمه الله في شرحه على مولد ابن حجر : ( اعلم أنّ من البدع المحمودة عمل المولد الشريف من الشهر الذي ولد فيه صلّى الله عليه وآله وصحبه وسلّم ) وقال أيضاً : ( فالاجتماع لسماع قصّة صاحب المعجزات عليه أفضل الصّلوات وأكمل التّحيات من أعظم القربات لما يشتمل عليه من المعجزات وكثرة الصّلوات )

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Re: The Origin Of Maulud - Part Of Islam Or Innovation by usmanktg2(m): 12:21pm On Dec 09, 2016
You are making Haram what Allah nor the Prophet SAW made Haram.

Please Quote anywhere from the Quraan or Hadith that state, MAULID IS HARAM. If you can quote anywhere, Wallahi I will not celebrate it again.

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Re: The Origin Of Maulud - Part Of Islam Or Innovation by Nobody: 12:22pm On Dec 09, 2016
talk2hb1:
Yeah
Can you provide evidence of getting a University Degree from either the Quran or any Hadith?

Yeah? What?

Evidence of getting degree or Hadith? What bring this issue? Are you misquoting or what?

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Re: The Origin Of Maulud - Part Of Islam Or Innovation by talk2hb1(m): 12:37pm On Dec 09, 2016
FriendChoice:


Yeah? What?

Evidence of getting degree or Hadith? What bring this issue? Are you misquoting or what?
Evidence of getting a University Degree from either the Quran or Hadith (Shikenah)
Re: The Origin Of Maulud - Part Of Islam Or Innovation by Nobody: 12:41pm On Dec 09, 2016
talk2hb1:

Evidence of getting a University Degree from either the Quran or Hadith (Shikenah)

What I don't get is: Why this question.

Have I claim to have such or what. (Shikenan)

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Re: The Origin Of Maulud - Part Of Islam Or Innovation by HAH: 12:42pm On Dec 09, 2016
A Muslim in France send me this MIND BLOWING MASHALLAH

I was sitting in a coffee shop in France one day drinking coffee.

On the table next to me sat a bearded man looking at me.

I got up, sat by him and asked him,

'Are you a Muslim? '

He smiled and replied,

'I am a Jordanian Jew. I am a Rabbi doing a PhD research on Islam.'

I asked, 'What aspect of Islam are you doing your research on?'

He became ashamed then answered thoughtfully after a while,

'I am researching the extremism in Muslims.'

I laughed out loud and asked, 'Where have you got up to with your research?'

He sighed and said,
'My research has been completed and I am now writing the paper.'

I asked, 'What are the findings of your research?'

He sighed deeply, looked left and right, lowered his head and said,

'After five years of continuous research, I have come to the conclusion that the Muslims love their Prophet more than Islam.

They tolerate all types of attacks on Islam but they do not tolerate any fingers being pointed towards their Prophet.'

This was a shocking answer for me. I lowered my coffee mug onto the table and sat up straight.

He continued,
'According to my research, whenever Muslims fight or rise up, the reason for it is the personage of their Prophet.

You may seize their mosques, destroy their governments, put limitations on the printing of the Quran or you may kill all of their families - they will tolerate all these things.

However, as soon as you take the name of their Prophet with an incorrect tone, they rise up.

Thereafter it will not matter whether you are a brave warrior or Firawn, they will clash with you.'

I stared at him in amazement. He said,
'According to my findings, the day the love of Rasulullah (Sallahu alaihi Wassalamu) no longer remain in the hearts of Muslims, Islam will no longer remain.

Therefore if you want to finish Islam, you have to take out the Prophet from the heart of the Muslims.'

With that he put down his coffee mug, picked up his bag, placed it on his shoulder, greeted me and left.

But I remained shaken.

I considered the Jewish Rabbi to be my benefactor because before meeting him I was a Muslim by name only but in a few sentences he had explained Islam to me.

I realised that the love of Rasulullah (Sallahu alaihi Wassalamu) was the spirit of Islam and as long as this spirit was alive, Islam was alive.

The day this spirit dies then there will no longer remain any difference between us, Christians and Jews."
**********
COPIED

If you reason with the above then let's celebrate the life and time of our nabiyy SAW. Happy Maulud

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Re: The Origin Of Maulud - Part Of Islam Or Innovation by busar(m): 12:46pm On Dec 09, 2016
talk2hb1:

Evidence of getting a University Degree from either the Quran or Hadith (Shikenah)
is getting a university degree an act of worship?

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Re: The Origin Of Maulud - Part Of Islam Or Innovation by busar(m): 12:48pm On Dec 09, 2016
HAH:
A Muslim in France send me this MIND BLOWING MASHALLAH

I was sitting in a coffee shop in France one day drinking coffee.

On the table next to me sat a bearded man looking at me.

I got up, sat by him and asked him,

'Are you a Muslim? '

He smiled and replied,

'I am a Jordanian Jew. I am a Rabbi doing a PhD research on Islam.'

I asked, 'What aspect of Islam are you doing your research on?'

He became ashamed then answered thoughtfully after a while,

'I am researching the extremism in Muslims.'

I laughed out loud and asked, 'Where have you got up to with your research?'

He sighed and said,
'My research has been completed and I am now writing the paper.'

I asked, 'What are the findings of your research?'

He sighed deeply, looked left and right, lowered his head and said,

'After five years of continuous research, I have come to the conclusion that the Muslims love their Prophet more than Islam.

They tolerate all types of attacks on Islam but they do not tolerate any fingers being pointed towards their Prophet.'

This was a shocking answer for me. I lowered my coffee mug onto the table and sat up straight.

He continued,
'According to my research, whenever Muslims fight or rise up, the reason for it is the personage of their Prophet.

You may seize their mosques, destroy their governments, put limitations on the printing of the Quran or you may kill all of their families - they will tolerate all these things.

However, as soon as you take the name of their Prophet with an incorrect tone, they rise up.

Thereafter it will not matter whether you are a brave warrior or Firawn, they will clash with you.'

I stared at him in amazement. He said,
'According to my findings, the day the love of Rasulullah (Sallahu alaihi Wassalamu) no longer remain in the hearts of Muslims, Islam will no longer remain.

Therefore if you want to finish Islam, you have to take out the Prophet from the heart of the Muslims.'

With that he put down his coffee mug, picked up his bag, placed it on his shoulder, greeted me and left.

But I remained shaken.

I considered the Jewish Rabbi to be my benefactor because before meeting him I was a Muslim by name only but in a few sentences he had explained Islam to me.

I realised that the love of Rasulullah (Sallahu alaihi Wassalamu) was the spirit of Islam and as long as this spirit was alive, Islam was alive.

The day this spirit dies then there will no longer remain any difference between us, Christians and Jews."
**********
COPIED

If you reason with the above then let's celebrate the life and time of our nabiyy SAW. Happy Maulud
this is not an evidence please

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Re: The Origin Of Maulud - Part Of Islam Or Innovation by Yahami(m): 12:49pm On Dec 09, 2016
usmanktg2:
Keep debating it, while we keep celebrating it.

Assalamu Alayka Ya Rasulullah!!!
Haba brother... Salamualikum please let us follow the commandment of prophet because when he was leaving he told us he is leaving us with Quran and Hadith not just to keep with us but to serve as a guidance In our deed, doing and act, in line with this I think what ever we are doing we should follow such guidance if is not then let's do away with it. It doesn't matter whether we celebrate it or not but is it part of the book let's get the book check again... May Allah guide us

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Re: The Origin Of Maulud - Part Of Islam Or Innovation by talk2hb1(m): 12:53pm On Dec 09, 2016
busar:
is getting a university degree an act of worship?
What is not an act of worship in Islam?
or do you think Islam permits ignorance and illiteracy?
Re: The Origin Of Maulud - Part Of Islam Or Innovation by talk2hb1(m): 12:54pm On Dec 09, 2016
FriendChoice:


What I don't get is: Why this question.

Have I claim to have such or what. (Shikenan)
Well why the post in the first instance?
Despite what the prophet did to Humanity as a whole all we could say was is it appropriate to appreciate the prophets birth?
Re: The Origin Of Maulud - Part Of Islam Or Innovation by usmanktg2(m): 12:56pm On Dec 09, 2016
Yahami:

Haba brother... Salamualikum please let us follow the commandment of prophet because when he was leaving he told us he is leaving us with Quran and Hadith not just to keep with us but to serve as a guidance In our deed, doing and act, in line with this I think what ever we are doing we should follow such guidance if is not then let's do away with it. It doesn't matter whether we celebrate it or not but is it part of the book let's get the book check again... May Allah guide us

Thank you brother, Can you show me anywhere from the Quran and Hadith that state "MAULID IS HARAM"? or "DO NOT CELEBRATE MY MAULID"

You can read:
http://www.islamicsupremecouncil.com/celebrating-prophet-muhammads-birthday-eid-milad-un-nabi/
Re: The Origin Of Maulud - Part Of Islam Or Innovation by Nobody: 12:59pm On Dec 09, 2016
talk2hb1:

Well why the post in the first instance?
Despite what the prophet did to Humanity as a whole all we could say was is it appropriate to appreciate the prophets birth?

What I wrote are questions not answers. You can as well give answers to it or contribute with facts.

But if the post hurts you I am sorry.


Now why asking me of Qur'an degree. Must I get degree in Quran before I can asked question? or must I get degree on Hadith before I speak on Islam?

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Re: The Origin Of Maulud - Part Of Islam Or Innovation by HAH: 12:59pm On Dec 09, 2016
busar:
this is not an evidence please


who is talking about evidence, I said if you reason with it, or do you have problem with comprehension.

Beside do you have any evidence that expressly prohibit Maulud in the quran, so far the wahabis only use concoction and narrative of their. Scholars to debunk Maulud.

However to me there is nothing wrong is celebrating the life and times of our nabiyy

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Re: The Origin Of Maulud - Part Of Islam Or Innovation by talk2hb1(m): 1:02pm On Dec 09, 2016
FriendChoice:


What I wrote are questions not answers. You can as well give answers to it or contribute with facts.
If a Christian ask you what will you say?


FriendChoice:


But if the post hurts you I am sorry
.
You cant hurt me if I don't allow it, but the fact that the prophet is involved is disrespectful to the prophet.

FriendChoice:

Must I get degree in Quran before I can asked question? or must I get degree on Hadith before I speak on Islam?
Dunno what you talking about?
Re: The Origin Of Maulud - Part Of Islam Or Innovation by Nobody: 1:12pm On Dec 09, 2016
talk2hb1:

If a Christian ask you what will you say?



You cant hurt me if I don't allow it, but the fact that the prophet is involved is disrespectful to the prophet.


Dunno what you talking about?

Let me just to ignore you. You ain't making any sense.

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Re: The Origin Of Maulud - Part Of Islam Or Innovation by Lukay99: 1:23pm On Dec 09, 2016
waluga:
There is nothing in the Qur’aan to say that we should celebrate the Mawlid or birthday of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). The Prophet himself (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not do this or command anyone to do it, either during his lifetime or after his death. Indeed, he told them not to exaggerate about him as the Christians had exaggerated about Jesus (upon whom be peace). He said: “Do not exaggerate about me as the Christians exaggerated about the son of Maryam. I am only a slave, so say, ‘The slave of Allaah and His Messenger.’” (Reported by al-Bukhaari). What has been reported is that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) made the day of his birth a day of worship, which is different to celebration. He was asked about fasting on Mondays, and he said: “That is the day on which I was born and the day on which I was entrusted with the Mission or when I was first given Revelation.” (Reported by Muslim, al-Nisaa’i and Abu Dawood).

Moreover, we know that the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them) were the people who loved the Prophet most. Was it reported that Abu Bakr, who was the closest of people to him and the one who loved him the most, celebrated the birthday of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)? Was it reported that ‘Umar, who ruled for twelve years, or ‘Uthmaan, did this? Was it reported that ‘Ali, his relative and foster son, did this? Was it reported that any of the Sahaabah did this? No, by Allaah! Is it because they were not aware of its importance, or did they not truly love the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)? No one would say such a thing except one who has gone astray and is leading others astray.

Did any of the imaams – Abu Haneefah, Maalik, al-Shaafi’i, Ahmad, al-Hasan al-Basri, Ibn Seereen – do this or command others to do it or say that it was good? By Allaah, no! It was not even mentioned during the first and best three centuries. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said in a saheeh hadeeth: “The best of mankind are my generation (or my century), then those who come after them, then those who come after them. Then there will come a people who will not care if their testimony comes before their oath or vice versa (i.e., they will not take such matter seriously).” (Reported by al-Bukhaari, Muslim and al-Tirmidhi). The celebration of the Prophet’s birthday appeared many centuries later, when many of the features of true religion had vanished and bid’ah had become widespread.

Thus this celebration became a sign of one’s love for the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)? But can it be possible that the Sahaabah, the imaams and the people of the best three centuries were unaware of it, and it was only those who came later who were aware of its importance?! What the Qur’aan tells us is that love of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is demonstrated by following the guidance he brought. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Say (O Muhammad): ‘If you (really) love Allaah, then follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allaah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

Say: ‘Obey Allaah and the Messenger.’ But if they turn away, then Allaah does not like the disbelievers.” [Aal ‘Imraan 3:31-32]

The first aayah explains that love is just a claim, but the proof of sincerity is following what the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) brought. The second aayah reaffirms the importance and necessity of obeying Allaah and His Messenger. Hence Allaah ended the aayah with a very stern warning in which those who refuse to obey are described as kaafirs, and Allah does not love the disbelievers. We ask Allaah to keep us safe from that. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told us of the danger of not obeying him, and the danger of adding to what he brought. The celebration of Mawlid or his birthday is indeed an addition to what he brought – as all the scholars agree. He said: “The best of speech is the Book of Allaah, and the best of guidance is the guidance of Muhammad. The most evil of things are those which are newly-invented (in religion), and every innovation is a going astray.” (Reported by Muslim and al-Nisaa’i).

We ask Allaah to protect us from bid’ah and to bless us by helping us to follow. Allaah knows best. May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad.#copied

Well said, may Allah continue to bless you. and just to add to what you said, we can fast on the DAY(every Monday's) but not on the DATE(Yearly Birthday dates) and Allah knows best.

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