LaExpert:


And if he doesn't decide to sell it, why still criticize him?

Because Nigeria is a 'third world' country?

vizkiz:
Poverty mentality.

So it is okay for a millionaire, politician and a musician to have private jets but a pastor is subjected to suffering right?

Serving God doesn't mean you shouldn't enjoy things because the earth is the lord's and the fullness therein

Before most of you (seun inclusive) come to nairaland to type junk maybe you should just take a minute and go through the Bible then read with your IQ (if you have any) not just rush to prove a void point

bezimo:
I saw things moving in the air in a vision in 1982, and the Lord said to me this is you in aircrafts bearing the everlasting gospel to the Nation's of the earth-Bishop Oyedepo.

Who are these that fly as a cloud, and as the doves to their windows? -Isa 60:8

Yes, A pastor needs a private jet, depending on the influence and scale of his work, what more, if he is blessed by God to be able to own one.Then thank God.
Not my business.

Off course the modern day Judases, Sadducees and Pharisees who never give in church would be concerned about this just like Judas was in scriptures when a woman wiped the feet of Jesus with an expensive perform and Judas reacted and said why not sell the perfume and use the proceeds to bless the poor, and the scriptures said he said said so not because he cared for the poor, but because he was a thief- Matt 26:6-11

So Scriptures have painted the picture of a typical Judas hypocrite!!

vizkiz:



Talking about stupidity, do you know about 80% of pastors have what they do to survive apart from their pastoral ministries?
Pastor adeboye was a lecturer who teaches mathematics for example and apart from that they get honorariums whenever they minister in other places.

Sometimes Stupidity is when you talking without thinking...Seems we now know who the stupìd one is between us.

chuose2:
Good question OP, especially while the congregation is so poor!

Adeboye owns a jet, while many are POOR

vizkiz:
Poverty mentality.

So it is okay for a millionaire, politician and a musician to have private jets but a pastor is subjected to suffering right?

Serving God doesn't mean you shouldn't enjoy things because the earth is the lord's and the fullness therein

Before most of you (seun inclusive) come to nairaland to type junk maybe you should just take a minute and go through the Bible then read with your IQ (if you have any) not just rush to prove a void point

EyeHateGod:
What would Jesus do?
A. Buy Private jet
B. Fly

weedtheweeds:
Name the lecturers that own private jets. If the pastors are into any business please name it and let us review his annual returns. All pastors claim to own businesses that only exist in their minds. If their businesses are that lucrative they can calm our curiosity by showing us their tax receipts. There are also pastors in India and Australia. Why arent they buyingprivate jets as much? The Bible says people like you are fed with what you want to believe. Many billionaires who have strings of businesses dont own private jets. The way you pledged to vouch for Adeboye sounda funny. As if you live in his house

sucess001:



Spiritually arrogant brother....


Jesus said 'blessed are the poor in spirit...'.


That shows u God's attitude to those u term 'ordinary men'.


To Jesus...showin luv to 'ordinary men' and 'extraordinary men' transcends using the best of things in the name of serving a rich God.


This is the basis of our faith.


Sadly, some claim spiritual understanding without realising this...


being saved doesn't mean u re now 'higher' than ordinary men. It only means u hav been saved by God's grace. And this also means that these mere men are the ones doctor Jesus wants to heal.

God open u understanding.

CecyAdrian:


My goodness!!!

Do you know why churches started building schools in the first place, I bet you don't because if you do, you will swallow all this you churned out.

So, you are saying that turning/chasing poor Christians who saw the idea of separating themselves from the worldly things, people and protecting their morals by building schools to teach their children in Godly and upright ways and environment, liked it and started contributing towards the reality of it to go back to the worldly schools they frown at because they can't afford what they helped build?

Lsofdk:

what kind of influence and scale of work surpasses that of HE who sent him

tejpot:


Hello sir, you fall my hand.
You know why I am typing this late? Because I had to read the bible before responding. A pastor should not suffer but a pastor should also sacrifice. What's the role of the musician? to entertain his or her audience for money. The role of a politician, to deceive the masses using the law or so to make money. A millionaire? To invest wisely or risky wisely to make money.
For all these people there is no categorical guiding principle or specific role model. All are subjective and depend on individual's view and exposure. But when it comes to a Pastor, there is a guiding principle-the bible, there is a role model-Jesus, and there are lights to guide him-the disciples. Jesus advocates a modest life, and this is evidenced by his conducts in the bible. The disciples set an incredible example for us, they broke bread together and they shared everything in common. Truly the pastors cannot be stopped from making their money, but will they be able to share it in common with the church. And don't forget that the church is particularly set up to cater for members welfare; physical and spiritual.

Again going by your analogy, "being a pastor does not mean you shouldn't enjoy life", I want to agree with you, and you will also agree with me that "being a Christian does not mean I should not do the normal things people(millionaires, politicians, Muslims, atheists, Hinduist,) do. That means I can lie, steal, kill, get drunk, fornicate, sexuallise, sleep with animals, commit suicidal acts and continue to leave an uncontrolled life. Since all these are part of enjoying life. I totally agree with you that following in the footsteps of pastors, members should enjoy life to the fullest maximum.

Thanks

Toks2008:


This is not about controversy.

I stated that this is up for discussion and if only Seun,lalasticlaka or mynd44 will put this on the main page then we will see broader views.

Some people kept ranting about poverty mentality and I just smh in disbelieve.

You cited oyedepo and co as having their own biz but can you just look down their history and you won't agree less that the rode on the back of church donations to attain their present status.

It's no longer news that a quarter of winners chapel members can't afford the fee of covenant university?

How many church members have their children in that school?

I remember when I was serving some years back when I approached my pastor at one redeem branch to lend me 6k to pay back in a month which was very vital to avoid being sent out of my rented apartment but he said no money and I was sent out anyways and I just wonder if my tithing and offering was worth giving to the church but I just gave to obey God.

Today there are many people in the church who need money to start a biz, for treatment and so on but do these pastors really care?

Do you know how much it costs to maintain a jet?

This thread is about Nigerian pastors cos Nigeria is a peculiar country that has countless people suffering even in the church.

Lsofdk:

I believe every man of God should follow the steps of he who he preaches about (Christ as his role model)
There must have been things to ride on but he travelled on foot.
Service to God has never been affiliated with wealth except in recent times(and is subtly used to mock Christianity). Even Christ told the rich man who came to him to give his wealth to the poor and come follow him.
That said it's wrong for a man of God to purchase a private jet.
Note: no one is saying they should live in abject poverty.

vizkiz:
Poverty mentality.

So it is okay for a millionaire, politician and a musician to have private jets but a pastor is subjected to suffering right?

Serving God doesn't mean you shouldn't enjoy things because the earth is the lord's and the fullness therein


Before most of you (seun inclusive) come to nairaland to type junk maybe you should just take a minute and go through the Bible then read with your IQ (if you have any) not just rush to prove a void point

shedybaba44:
private jet or no private jet their will always be poor among us said the people, if Buhari is not allowed to stand in queue for an appointment in the Airport why should God's anointed do that when they have important work in other country, nairalanders get sense abeg mind your biz pray for God to bless you

bezimo:


The works I do shall you do and greater than these shall ye do.Jesus speaking on they that believeth on him.
What does greater mean? It includes more than private jet.
If Jesus lived in our days, he would use the best, and most comfortable means of transportation. No doubt about that whether the hypocrites agree or not.

firstking01:
Smh, did you read where i said something about "welfare and scholarship" in churches??...you guys just derive joy in abusing pastors and churches unwarrantedly....i pray God open your eyes to see the weight of the sins and the purnishment that awaits you.

correctguy0900:
Ah touch not my annoited and do my profet nothing. As if na only Africa the annoited dey.

I calld them fooools. They said Politicians and business men acquire private jets therefore pastors must have too. Where is the source of this money. I pity Africa as a whole. Their mindset is majority of the population's own enemy and will keep them in darkness for ever from the rest of the agile nd developed world. With these gullible multitudes , Africa will continue to forage and eat the leftover like food, clothes, cars, fridge and toothpick etc from the rational world.

With these vulnerable majority, Africa will never have access to good electricity and will never be industrialised even in the next 1000 years.

If the churches are not accountable and transparent wih the money collected from the vulnerables and instead spend it as their business return, what makes u think our politicians will ever see the need to use the public resources for the good of all when religions suppose to serve as the conscience of the entire people.

As a matter of comparisons, when i came here overseas as a student i faced the hardest financial challenge of my life. In the place churches have assistance centres for emergency relief for students all over the universities. Infact it's like a competition among churches as to who will expand this and touch lives more by extending the hand of God to them. I tell u, i have received close to 4000 here in study assistance from church alone. Thats like millions in naira currently. And they urge u to come back once u facing such again. This gesture is for all races who face any kind of financial hardship.

Most of the financial contributors may go to church ones or twice or no time a year. Because they feel God is the next person u see on the street. The pastors work elsewhere most times. Some have average cars others prefer to take trains.

Every financial sunday, a breakdown of the financial revenue and expenses are carried out professionally with the help of a projector. People pay offering once. Most churches do not even talk about tithe and doesn't exist most times.
And should d church not update members about the finances, they will be questioned by others or even be served a legal order. Most times u can best be certain the range of a car an average pastor has in his possession and most likely not more than 2.

This is a sane society where people question the rationale behind ideas. A pastor comes inside the church and says u are poor because u are not serving God well will look foolish to everyone here. People are objective.

I tell u, if the churches in Africa do the right thing, poverty will be reduced by 60 percent. Why people will help their dying next door neighbour before paying tithe and sowing stupid seed. We will not need outside aids. There will be no malnutrition in our boko something IDPs camps. They will see God physically. We will not even need red cross and others to help feed our own. Infact with only winners chapel, those children will be suffering from too much care and hospitality.

I call them foolllll again because Jesus would also said that if he was still here. Abeg too much post sorry (Okada abeg drop me here)

vizkiz:
Poverty mentality.

So it is okay for a millionaire, politician and a musician to have private jets but a pastor is subjected to suffering right?

Serving God doesn't mean you shouldn't enjoy things because the earth is the lord's and the fullness therein

Before most of you (seun inclusive) come to nairaland to type junk maybe you should just take a minute and go through the Bible then read with your IQ (if you have any) not just rush to prove a void point

correctguy0900:
Ah touch not my annoited and do my profet nothing. As if na only Africa the annoited dey.

Most of the financial contributors may go to church ones or twice or no time a year. Because they feel God is the next person u see on the street. The pastors work elsewhere most times. Some have average cars others prefer to take trains.

Every financial sunday, a breakdown of the financial revenue and expenses are carried out professionally with the help of a projector. People pay offering once. Most churches do not even talk about tithe and doesn't exist most times.
And should d church not update members about the finances, they will be questioned by others or even be served a legal order. Most times u can best be certain the range of a car an average pastor has in his possession and most likely not more than 2.

I call them foolllll again because Jesus would also said that if he was still here. Abeg too much post sorry (Okada abeg drop me here)

teezy001:
Everyone of you condemning the usage of private jets in church ministries lack understanding. I also frowned at any clergy that use it for business, but I know some clergy men all due to the expansion of their ministries worldwide, it is this jets that take them all around the world including missionaries. I think the op is an atheist, an old fashioned that believe in old fangled. BC is different from AD. thanks.

teezy001:
Everyone of you condemning the usage of private jets in church ministries lack understanding. I also frowned at any clergy that use it for business, but I know some clergy men all due to the expansion of their ministries worldwide, it is this jets that take them all around the world including missionaries. I think the op is an atheist, an old fashioned that believe in old fangled. BC is different from AD. thanks.