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Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by 4kings: 1:33pm On Jan 01, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog:Freethinking is simply being open-minded. And I didn't waste their time... |
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by Nobody: 1:33pm On Jan 01, 2017 |
4kings: 4kings like DoctorAlien said.....Goodluck! |
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by Nobody: 1:34pm On Jan 01, 2017 |
hahn: Oyaks ? Scammed ? I think you have made a mistake ! |
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by 4kings: 1:35pm On Jan 01, 2017 |
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by Nobody: 1:35pm On Jan 01, 2017 |
4kings: You do not know who a freethinker is or even what it is! A freethinker is a person who rejects accepted opinions, especially those concerning religious belief! |
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by Nobody: 1:35pm On Jan 01, 2017 |
YungTemy: funny sheeple ! |
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:36pm On Jan 01, 2017 |
4kings: You are like these atheists who redefined atheism Freethinking is unconcerned with religion . |
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:39pm On Jan 01, 2017 |
4everGod: no mind brother 4kings Its high time we gave him an appropriate label , 'the confused one' |
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by 4kings: 1:41pm On Jan 01, 2017 |
4everGod: A freethinker is a person who forms opinions on the basis of reason, full stop. @KingEbukasBlog 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by hahn(m): 1:41pm On Jan 01, 2017 |
frosbel2: Didn't you do that expose on Christ Embassy specifically healing world? |
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:42pm On Jan 01, 2017 |
4kings: without religion |
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by Nobody: 1:43pm On Jan 01, 2017 |
4kings: Pls do not go outside and be caught saying this. You would be termed as an illiterate! |
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by Nobody: 1:45pm On Jan 01, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: Indeed the confused one. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by Nobody: 1:45pm On Jan 01, 2017 |
4kings: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by PastorAIO: 1:49pm On Jan 01, 2017 |
DoctorAlien: A: Who can forgive sins but God alone? B: Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins Look at statements A and B and tell me whether they contradict each other or not. If you commit adultery you've transgressed your wife, the husband of the man you had adultery and all others involved, possibly even yourself too. Any of these people can forgive you. If you use the name of God in vain, apparently it offends god. It is the person offended that should do the forgiving. Let's look at the passage a little closer. There was a belief in those days that infirmities were the results of Sin. If someone is crippled it must be either that the person committed a sin or maybe his parents committed a sin. First there is that connection between the two, infirmity and Sin. It therefore follows that to Forgive sin is to Heal an infirmity, and vice versa Infirmity cannot be healed without the forgiveness of Sin, in the minds of 1st century Jews. Since the scribes had issues with Jesus saying someone's sin is forgiven, would they have arguments against his healing of infirmity? By saying only God can forgive sins they are also saying that only God can heal infirmity. HOWEVER: When we look at the OT we see lots and lots of examples of people with their infirmities healed. Even cases where we are told clearly the sin that cause the infirmity and yet it is healed by human agency. Of course the ultimate healing comes from God, but through human agency. Genesis 20 17Abraham prayed to God, and God healed Abimelech and his wife and his maids, so that they bore children. 18For the LORD had closed fast all the wombs of the household of Abimelech because of Sarah, Abraham's wife Obviously before the Prayers and the healing Abraham must have already forgiven Abimelech. Further more in the book of John (in which, remember, christianity had evolved it's theology) Jesus even goes as far as giving his apostles the authority to Forgive sins or not. John 20 23If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you withhold forgiveness from anyone, it is withheld.” If we were to follow your reasoning then that would mean that Jesus had turned his apostles into God. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by ichommy(m): 1:50pm On Jan 01, 2017 |
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by 4kings: 1:50pm On Jan 01, 2017 |
4everGod:Everyman has a philosophical position, a freethinker is one who rejects the one that is accepted, especially religion. That does not make him devoid of an opinion. |
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by Nobody: 1:53pm On Jan 01, 2017 |
4kings: [img]http://vikingsfootballblog.files./2012/08/funny-sports-pictures-quadruple-facepalm-e1300317290948.jpg[/img] |
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by Nobody: 1:56pm On Jan 01, 2017 |
PastorAIO: As much as i would have loved to correct all the error filled gist you just gave i know it would be a waste of time so suffice to say that your write up is heavily laden with error, confusion and deceitful interpretation of scripture. This is a New day in a new year and i am not just in the mood for arguments today. |
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by 4kings: 1:58pm On Jan 01, 2017 |
4everGod:At least, you could teach me. Why not explain why what I said does not make sense. |
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by Nobody: 1:58pm On Jan 01, 2017 |
hahn: Probably , but I am not one of his minions or followers. |
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by DoctorAlien(m): 1:59pm On Jan 01, 2017 |
4everGod: You just took the words outta my mouth. I just don't have the strength to tackle his delusions. He should just go on. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by 4kings: 1:59pm On Jan 01, 2017 |
4everGod:Na by mouth abi... |
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by PastorAIO: 2:00pm On Jan 01, 2017 |
4everGod: But to the rest I, not the Lord, say : If any brother has a wife who does not believe, and she is willing to live with him, let him not divorce her. Corinthians 7. Unless you want to argue with the bible itself. Here we see that the divine inspiration is expressly disavowed. 5 Likes |
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by 4kings: 2:01pm On Jan 01, 2017 |
Kilo4sure I dey see you Happy new year!!! |
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by PastorAIO: 2:05pm On Jan 01, 2017 |
4everGod: That's okay, the day you are in the mood you can come back to it and address it. DoctorAlien: Funny how from each person's points of view everyone else is deluded. And of course DoctorAlien talks about meeting the True god, whereas all the others are counterfeit ('there is no counterfeit without real'). aaahhh! 5 Likes |
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by DoctorAlien(m): 2:07pm On Jan 01, 2017 |
PastorAIO: Erm, just believe whatever you want to believe, okay? It does not change anything! 1 Like |
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by Nobody: 2:08pm On Jan 01, 2017 |
PastorAIO: Like DoctorAlien said the scripture is line upon line, precept upon precept. If i get married to my wife at a time when we were both unbelievers and along the line either she or i get born again why should i divorce her? If she is willing to live with me why should i divorce her? if she is unwilling to live with me i still did not divorce her SHE DIVORCED ME! |
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by Nobody: 2:10pm On Jan 01, 2017 |
Abeg i have my lunch before me. I need to eat |
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by PastorAIO: 2:15pm On Jan 01, 2017 |
PastorAIO: Let me summarize: Jews thought that only God can Forgive. Jesus demonstrated that Humans could forgive too. And furthermore goes on to give his apostles the authority to Forgive. Therefore we can say that the Authority to forgive sins is transferable and not an inextricable trait of God. Authority to Forgive sins does not make you God. If it did then Jesus' apostles and their descendants would all be God. One last Final: Authority to Forgive Sins does not equate you to God. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by Wilgrea7(m): 2:19pm On Jan 01, 2017 |
frosbel2: true sir Happy new year Sir |
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by PastorAIO: 2:19pm On Jan 01, 2017 |
4everGod: The point is that Paul is giving his own personal advice. I'm not criticising what he said. I'm not saying you should divorce anybody. I highlighted the point I was making. Paul was giving his own personal advice and admits it, and it is a part of our bible. Therefore the bible is not entirely inspired by the holdy spirit. Geddit? 2 Likes |
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