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Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by 4kings: 5:15pm On Jan 01, 2017
Deicide thanks.
Don't mind 4everGod and KingEbukasBlog tongue
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by Geist(m): 5:16pm On Jan 01, 2017
PastorAIO:


The point is that Paul is giving his own personal advice. I'm not criticising what he said. I'm not saying you should divorce anybody. I highlighted the point I was making.

Paul was giving his own personal advice and admits it, and it is a part of our bible. Therefore the bible is not entirely inspired by the holdy spirit.
Geddit?
This post of yours caught my attention and would like to ask. Do you one's personal opinion can be different from that which he is inspired to write. Say for example Paul is inspired to write one thing but his personal opinion is something entirely opposite. What am driving at is that, I might be a big fan of you on this forum that your posts inspires me to make a drawing of you. Wouldn't that drawing still be my opinion of what you should look like?
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by DoctorAlien(m): 5:16pm On Jan 01, 2017
PastorAIO:


Okay, please enlighten me, if I'm ignorant.

Why did the disciples ask Jesus what sins the blindman/parents had committed?

Why would Jesus pronounce forgiveness of sins to a man that was brought to him because the man was crippled?

Wny did James speak thus? :

Is anyone among you ill? Let them call the elders of the church to pray over them and anoint them with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise them up. If they have sinned, they will be forgiven. Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed.



The word in red shows that you're still stiffnecked in ignorance.

Until you humble yourself and admit that you're ignorant, only then will I school you.

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Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by Deicide: 5:16pm On Jan 01, 2017
4kings:
Deicide thanks.
Don't mind 4everGod and KingEbukasBlog tongue
You should by now know how dishonest those guys can be....

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Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by Deicide: 5:19pm On Jan 01, 2017
DoctorAlien:


The word in red shows that you're still stiffnecked in ignorance.

Until you humble yourself and admit that you're ignorant, only then will I school you.
Please shut up if you have nothing reasonable to say you guys like taking people as if they are fools. Why don't you correct him if he is wrong instead of ranting? Or you don't see anything to correct?

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Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by PastorAIO: 5:20pm On Jan 01, 2017
DoctorAlien:


The word in red shows that you're still stiffnecked in ignorance.

Until you humble yourself and admit that you're ignorant, only then will I school you.

Have you noticed that inspite of your bleating on about the bible you haven't quoted or argued from the bible. I keep presenting bible passages and you don't even counter them with bible passages of your own. You don't even address the bible.

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Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by Peacefullove: 5:22pm On Jan 01, 2017
DoctorAlien:


Continue posting whatever you believe then. Those who read their Bibles only laugh when they see foolish philosophies from confused men.

He brought out his point from the bible . so you are the confused one here who ignorantly call his points from your bible foolish philosophies


Y cant you respond to his post on forgiving sins ?

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Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by DoctorAlien(m): 5:22pm On Jan 01, 2017
PastorAIO:


Have you noticed that inspite of your bleating on about the bible you haven't quoted or argued from the bible. I keep presenting bible passages and you don't even counter them with bible passages of your own. You don't even address the bible.

You know, Jesus advised us not cast our pearls to pigs. They'll trample on the pearls, and then turn and devour you.

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Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by PastorAIO: 5:26pm On Jan 01, 2017
Geist:
This post of yours caught my attention and would like to ask. Do you one's personal opinion can be different from that which he is inspired to write. Say for example Paul is inspired to write one thing but his personal opinion is something entirely opposite. What am driving at is that, I might be a big fan of you on this forum that your posts inspires me to make a drawing of you. Wouldn't that drawing still be my opinion of what you should look like?

I believe that it happens all the time that the Spirit tells you one thing, but Your carnal mind tells you the exact opposite. Then we have a test of Faith. Are you ready to follow the inspiration when conventional wisdom and everything that you've ever known or believed says otherwise?

You see people going left and hitting the jackpot, but your inspiration is telling you to go right. What do you do?

I'm not sure that I understand what you mean by the drawing. Are you saying that even inspiration is interpreted and filtered through the mind/opinions of the person receiving the inspiration so it is always personal?
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by Nobody: 5:27pm On Jan 01, 2017
PastorAIO:


Abego!! E be like say you dey taya!! Nor tire for truth o! We just dey start. There is more to come.




Nonsense!! I knew that lack of english comprehension is at the basis of a lot of these problems.

inspire
ɪnˈspʌɪə/
verb
verb: inspire; 3rd person present: inspires; past tense: inspired; past participle: inspired; gerund or present participle: inspiring

1.
fill (someone) with the urge or ability to do or feel something, especially to do something creative.
"his philosophy inspired a later generation of environmentalists"
synonyms: stimulate, motivate, cause, incline, persuade, encourage, influence, rouse, move, stir, spur (on), goad, energize, galvanize,

2.
breathe in (air); inhale.
"they can expand their lungs and inspire enough gas to satisfy oxygen requirements"

Origin
Middle English enspire, from Old French inspirer, from Latin inspirare ‘breathe or blow into’ from in- ‘into’ + spirare ‘breathe’. The word was originally used of a divine or supernatural being, in the sense ‘impart a truth or idea to someone’.
Translate inspire to
Use over time for: inspire


I've never heard of your definition of Inspire before. Is there any literature you can quote that uses the word in that sense?




Nope! That is not the meaning of inspiration. When a teacher teaches you he has simply taught you. If however the attitude of the teacher compels and propels you to create new ideas, or to research and make new discoveries then you can say that your teacher inspired you.

I can't believe that this is degenerating into an english lesson.



Nonsense. Many teach and preach the so called word, and guess what? They all contradict each other.




Nasty Evil Lie!!!

17‘- In the last days, God says, I will pour out My Spirit on all people; your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams. 18Even on My servants, both men and women, I will pour out My Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy.…Acts 2

In the last days people will be mightily inspired and they will prophecy and experience visions etc. This nasty lie about the bible being the end of prophecy and nothing more to be added is so perfidious and unscriptural in and of itself.

btw, there was no bible when Revelation was written, so that admonition to not add or remove from the text was in reference to the book of Revelation and Revelation only.




His own understanding. Thank you. I contrasted that with divine inspiration and found a man's understanding to separate from divine inspiration.

Then you ask the question as to whether or not it confirms inspired scripture. Well compare these:
1Cor 7
25Now concerningf the betrothed,g I have no command from the Lord , but I give my judgment as one who by the Lord’s mercy is trustworthy. 26I think that in view of the presenth distress it is good for a person to remain as he is. 27Are you bound to a wife? Do not seek to be free. Are you free from a wife? Do not seek a wife. 28But if you do marry, you have not sinned, and if a betrothed womani marries, she has not sinned. Yet those who marry will have worldly troubles, and I would spare you that. 29This is what I mean, brothers: the appointed time has grown very short. From now on, let those who have wives live as though they had none, 30and those who mourn as though they were not mourning, and those who rejoice as though they were not rejoicing, and those who buy as though they had no goods, 31and those who deal with the world as though they had no dealings with it. For the present form of this world is passing away.

32I want you to be free from anxieties. The unmarried man is anxious about the things of the Lord, how to please the Lord. 33But the married man is anxious about worldly things, how to please his wife, 34and his interests are divided. And the unmarried or betrothed woman is anxious about the things of the Lord, how to be holy in body and spirit. But the married woman is anxious about worldly things, how to please her husband. 35I say this for your own benefit, not to lay any restraint upon you, but to promote good order and to secure your undivided devotion to the Lord.

36If anyone thinks that he is not behaving properly toward his betrothed,j if hisk passions are strong, and it has to be, let him do as he wishes: let them marry—it is no sin. 37But whoever is firmly established in his heart, being under no necessity but having his desire under control, and has determined this in his heart, to keep her as his betrothed, he will do well. 38So then he who marries his betrothed does well, and he who refrains from marriage will do even better.

39A wife is bound to her husband as long as he lives. But if her husband dies, she is free to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord. 40Yet in my judgment she is happier if she remains as she is. And I think that I too have the Spirit of God.


Compared with this:

4Jesus answered, “Have you not read that from the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female’ 5and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’?


…27God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. 28God blessed them; and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth,
Genesis 2

So the question is: If marriage was ordained by God, then by what authority does Paul advise his followers that it is best to abstain from marriage.






I agree. When you talk to me, not from DoctorAlien, it is YOU talking, not Doctor. Even if what you say tallies with what doctor would say that doesn't mean that you are talking on Doctor's behalf.

You keep carrying on about lines and precepts. Oya bring the lines naw! Bring the precepts! Let us compare them and reason on them.


I only need to answer one question here and retire as i have not rested all day since yesterday


www.dictionary.com/browse/inspired


inspired
ɪnˈspʌɪəd/
adjective
1.
of extraordinary quality, as if arising from some external creative impulse.
"they had to thank the goalkeeper for some inspired saves"

2.
(of air or another substance) that is breathed in.
"inspired air must be humidified"
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by PastorAIO: 5:29pm On Jan 01, 2017
DoctorAlien:


You know, Jesus advised us not cast our pearls to pigs. They'll trample on the pearls, and then turn and devour you.

Wow! So I'm devouring you. That is the most poetic, yet drastic, concession of defeat that I've heard on nairaland.

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Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by Nobody: 5:32pm On Jan 01, 2017
[[s]quote author=PastorAIO post=52443856]

Abego!! E be like say you dey taya!! Nor tire for truth o! We just dey start. There is more to come.




Nonsense!! I knew that lack of english comprehension is at the basis of a lot of these problems.

inspire
ɪnˈspʌɪə/
verb
verb: inspire; 3rd person present: inspires; past tense: inspired; past participle: inspired; gerund or present participle: inspiring

1.
fill (someone) with the urge or ability to do or feel something, especially to do something creative.
"his philosophy inspired a later generation of environmentalists"
synonyms: stimulate, motivate, cause, incline, persuade, encourage, influence, rouse, move, stir, spur (on), goad, energize, galvanize,

2.
breathe in (air); inhale.
"they can expand their lungs and inspire enough gas to satisfy oxygen requirements"

Origin
Middle English enspire, from Old French inspirer, from Latin inspirare ‘breathe or blow into’ from in- ‘into’ + spirare ‘breathe’. The word was originally used of a divine or supernatural being, in the sense ‘impart a truth or idea to someone’.
Translate inspire to
Use over time for: inspire


I've never heard of your definition of Inspire before. Is there any literature you can quote that uses the word in that sense?




Nope! That is not the meaning of inspiration. When a teacher teaches you he has simply taught you. If however the attitude of the teacher compels and propels you to create new ideas, or to research and make new discoveries then you can say that your teacher inspired you.

I can't believe that this is degenerating into an english lesson.



Nonsense. Many teach and preach the so called word, and guess what? They all contradict each other.




Nasty Evil Lie!!!

17‘- In the last days, God says, I will pour out My Spirit on all people; your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams. 18Even on My servants, both men and women, I will pour out My Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy.…Acts 2

In the last days people will be mightily inspired and they will prophecy and experience visions etc. This nasty lie about the bible being the end of prophecy and nothing more to be added is so perfidious and unscriptural in and of itself.

btw, there was no bible when Revelation was written, so that admonition to not add or remove from the text was in reference to the book of Revelation and Revelation only.




His own understanding. Thank you. I contrasted that with divine inspiration and found a man's understanding to separate from divine inspiration.

Then you ask the question as to whether or not it confirms inspired scripture. Well compare these:
1Cor 7
25Now concerningf the betrothed,g I have no command from the Lord , but I give my judgment as one who by the Lord’s mercy is trustworthy. 26I think that in view of the presenth distress it is good for a person to remain as he is. 27Are you bound to a wife? Do not seek to be free. Are you free from a wife? Do not seek a wife. 28But if you do marry, you have not sinned, and if a betrothed womani marries, she has not sinned. Yet those who marry will have worldly troubles, and I would spare you that. 29This is what I mean, brothers: the appointed time has grown very short. From now on, let those who have wives live as though they had none, 30and those who mourn as though they were not mourning, and those who rejoice as though they were not rejoicing, and those who buy as though they had no goods, 31and those who deal with the world as though they had no dealings with it. For the present form of this world is passing away.

32I want you to be free from anxieties. The unmarried man is anxious about the things of the Lord, how to please the Lord. 33But the married man is anxious about worldly things, how to please his wife, 34and his interests are divided. And the unmarried or betrothed woman is anxious about the things of the Lord, how to be holy in body and spirit. But the married woman is anxious about worldly things, how to please her husband. 35I say this for your own benefit, not to lay any restraint upon you, but to promote good order and to secure your undivided devotion to the Lord.

36If anyone thinks that he is not behaving properly toward his betrothed,j if hisk passions are strong, and it has to be, let him do as he wishes: let them marry—it is no sin. 37But whoever is firmly established in his heart, being under no necessity but having his desire under control, and has determined this in his heart, to keep her as his betrothed, he will do well. 38So then he who marries his betrothed does well, and he who refrains from marriage will do even better.

39A wife is bound to her husband as long as he lives. But if her husband dies, she is free to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord. 40Yet in my judgment she is happier if she remains as she is. And I think that I too have the Spirit of God.


Compared with this:

4Jesus answered, “Have you not read that from the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female’ 5and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’?


…27God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. 28God blessed them; and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth,
Genesis 2

So the question is: If marriage was ordained by God, then by what authority does Paul advise his followers that it is best to abstain from marriage.






I agree. When you talk to me, not from DoctorAlien, it is YOU talking, not Doctor. Even if what you say tallies with what doctor would say that doesn't mean that you are talking on Doctor's behalf.

You keep carrying on about lines and precepts. Oya bring the lines naw! Bring the precepts! Let us compare them and reason on them. [/quote][/s]


Paul spoke from a position of focused service as a choice to anyone. Marriage is not a law and anyone can choose to get married or not to get married. There is no law sin in being single. If you wish to serve God without distraction assuming you have such a weakness then remain single so you can serve God with all you are but if you wish to get married then do so.

IT IS NO SIN TO BE SINGLE...Get that straight.

I do not need a long epistle to explain a simple thing such as this to you. We are all endowed with the ability to make choices and every man can to an extent tell his strenghts and his weaknesses so the issue of marriage which you see as a conflict is erroneous on your part.
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by Nobody: 5:32pm On Jan 01, 2017
[s]
akintom:

You know that religious folks are the most genetically modified zombies, of all the manipulative psychology victims that be in the world.

I certainly expect that folks, who have been terminally diseased with cancerous delusion, will behave as such.

My desire is to see religious folks, who have not crossed over the rehab border, helped into rational behavior.
[/s]


Another Bunkum!
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by PastorAIO: 5:35pm On Jan 01, 2017
4everGod:



I only need to answer one question here and retire as i have not rested all day since yesterday


www.dictionary.com/browse/inspired


inspired
ɪnˈspʌɪəd/
adjective
1.
of extraordinary quality, as if arising from some external creative impulse.
"they had to thank the goalkeeper for some inspired saves"

2.
(of air or another substance) that is breathed in.
"inspired air must be humidified"


Well done! You've actually found a dictionary to support your use of the word. Okay. Let's play along.

If you claim the bible is inspired then you are saying, according to this definition, that it is of 'extraordinary quality as if arising from some external creative impulse'.

It follows that this is not true of the entire bible because Paul states that his advise is Not of the Lord but his own idea.

Perhaps you found Paul's advise 'extraordinary'. No wahala. The fact still remains that it did not arise from 'some external' source. It came from Paul's own opinion.

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Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by DoctorAlien(m): 5:43pm On Jan 01, 2017
While many Jews erroneously held the belief that infirmities come only to sinners(or children of sinners), some still knew that such an idea was wrong.

The paralytic man brought to Jesus for healing had lived a very sinful life up till that moment. He engaged in a life of immorality. And so at the point where his friends brought him before Jesus, he was in need of both spiritual and physical healing. Seeing the sinful state of the man's heart, and the faith of his friends in what He could do, Jesus forgave the paralytic man his sins. He then healed his body.

James, speaking about sick people, said "if they have sinned..." The if there means that there is a possibility that they might not have sinned. Of course we know that righteous people fall sick too. James encouraged Christians to confess their faults to those they offended, and then enjoined the offended to forgive their fellow men, just as Christ directed.

GOD alone is the one who ultimately forgives and removes sin, as 1 Jn. 1:9 states.

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Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by PastorAIO: 5:46pm On Jan 01, 2017
4everGod:


Paul spoke from a position of focused service as a choice to anyone. Marriage is not a law and anyone can choose to get married or not to get married. There is no law sin in being single. If you wish to serve God without distraction assuming you have such a weakness then remain single so you can serve God with all you are but if you wish to get married then do so.

IT IS NO SIN TO BE SINGLE...Get that straight.

I do not need a long epistle to explain a simple thing such as this to you. We are all endowed with the ability to make choices and every man can to an extent tell his strenghts and his weaknesses so the issue of marriage which you see as a conflict is erroneous on your part.

I thought you were tired and needed to rest.

Anyway. I never said Marriage was a sin, but if you can vent your frustrations by whacking that strawman then more grease to your elbow.

Paul wasn't speaking about 'focused service'. Paul was talking about the eminent return of Christ and the fact that christians were going through so much tribulation and distress, and he felt that in such conditions, especially with Jesus returning soon, there was no point in burdening yourself with marriage.

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Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by Nobody: 5:47pm On Jan 01, 2017
PastorAIO:


Well done! You've actually found a dictionary to support your use of the word. Okay. Let's play along.

If you claim the bible is inspired then you are saying, according to this definition, that it is of 'extraordinary quality as if arising from some external creative impulse'.

It follows that this is not true of the entire bible because Paul states that his advise is Not of the Lord but his own idea.

Perhaps you found Paul's advise 'extraordinary'. No wahala. The fact still remains that it did not arise from 'some external' source. It came from Paul's own opinion.


You are free to sponge up what you wish to your own understanding but i know better.

I already told you what NOT OF THE LORD MEANT and you agreed with it so why bring it up again so dishonestly.

By the way i left out this part you mentioned

17‘- In the last days, God says, I will pour out My Spirit on all people; your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams. 18Even on My servants, both men and women, I will pour out My Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy.…Acts 2

In the last days people will be mightily inspired and they will prophecy and experience visions etc. This nasty lie about the bible being the end of prophecy and nothing more to be added is so perfidious and unscriptural in and of itself.

btw, there was no bible when Revelation was written, so that admonition to not add or remove from the text was in reference to the book of Revelation and Revelation only.

The outpouring of the holy spirit is for a purpose which Jesus Himself already listed out and is littered all over the new testament;

In John 14, for example, Jesus says the Holy Spirit will comfort us when we're hurting. "I will not leave you as orphans," Jesus says (14:18), promising that the Spirit will bring us peace (14:27).

Jesus also says the Spirit will help us recall the things we've learned about God (14:26)—which also means the Spirit will help us when we tell others about our faith.

In John 16, Jesus refers to the Spirit as a "Counselor" who will guide us in our everyday lives. One way he'll guide us is by convicting us of sin (16: 8 ). And this is really a good thing: God wants us to get rid of the things that displease him, and the only way to identify those things is to be convicted by the Spirit. The Spirit works through our conscience to make us aware of sin in our lives.

Romans 8 tells us the Spirit will help us stop sinning and do the things that please God. A verse later in that chapter also tells us that the Spirit helps us pray (8:26). We've all gone to God and said, "Lord, I'm just not sure how to pray or what to say." The Holy Spirit helps us in those times, and actually intercedes for us, saying the prayers for us.

Now, the Holy Spirit can't do all the work for us. We're still responsible to do our part—especially to consistently read our Bibles and pray, asking the Spirit to show us the truth and teach us how to live. (THIS AGAIN IS INSPRATION)

The spirit of God even in Prophecy cannot say what is outside the WORD. Prophecy must confirm the word of God

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Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by Deicide: 5:49pm On Jan 01, 2017
PastorAio do yourself a favour by Opening any link 4evergod trows at you now go back and open the like he gave you don't be lazy...
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by Nobody: 5:52pm On Jan 01, 2017
PastorAIO:


I thought you were tired and needed to rest.

Anyway. I never said Marriage was a sin, but if you can vent your frustrations by whacking that strawman then more grease to your elbow.

Paul wasn't speaking about 'focused service'. Paul was talking about the eminent return of Christ and the fact that christians were going through so much tribulation and distress, and he felt that in such conditions, especially with Jesus returning soon, there was no point in burdening yourself with marriage.


I wonder why so much dishonesty flows in your veins

1Cor 7
25Now concerningf the betrothed,g I have no command from the Lord , but I give my judgment as one who by the Lord’s mercy is trustworthy. 26I think that in view of the presenth distress it is good for a person to remain as he is. 27Are you bound to a wife? Do not seek to be free. Are you free from a wife? Do not seek a wife. 28But if you do marry, you have not sinned, and if a betrothed womani marries, she has not sinned. Yet those who marry will have worldly troubles, and I would spare you that. 29This is what I mean, brothers: the appointed time has grown very short. From now on, let those who have wives live as though they had none, 30and those who mourn as though they were not mourning, and those who rejoice as though they were not rejoicing, and those who buy as though they had no goods, 31and those who deal with the world as though they had no dealings with it. For the present form of this world is passing away.

32I want you to be free from anxieties. The unmarried man is anxious about the things of the Lord, how to please the Lord. 33But the married man is anxious about worldly things, how to please his wife, 34and his interests are divided. And the unmarried or betrothed woman is anxious about the things of the Lord, how to be holy in body and spirit. But the married woman is anxious about worldly things, how to please her husband. 35I say this for your own benefit, not to lay any restraint upon you, but to promote good order and to secure your undivided devotion to the Lord.

36If anyone thinks that he is not behaving properly toward his betrothed,j if hisk passions are strong, and it has to be, let him do as he wishes: let them marry—it is no sin. 37But whoever is firmly established in his heart, being under no necessity but having his desire under control, and has determined this in his heart, to keep her as his betrothed, he will do well. 38So then he who marries his betrothed does well, and he who refrains from marriage will do even better.

39A wife is bound to her husband as long as he lives. But if her husband dies, she is free to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord. 40Yet in my judgment she is happier if she remains as she is. And I think that I too have the Spirit of God.


Pauls entire focus was on marriage but he still ceased the opportunity to warn them about the Judgement of God and the repercussion of sin. Let them not think that marriage is the end of everything so they would being in mind that whether married or single the focus should be on serving God.

Please stop twisting scripture to satiate your twisted mind.
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by Nobody: 6:00pm On Jan 01, 2017
Deicide:
PastorAio do yourself a favour by Opening any link 4evergod trows at you now go back and open the like he gave you don't be lazy...


Please kindly desist from mentioning me or my moniker forthwith. I do not take kindly to trolls and people with dishonesty and guile flowing in their system who end up pushing it out with a sprinkling of illiteracy

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/inspired (EXTENDED VERSION)

inspire
[in-spahyuh r]
Spell Syllables
verb (used with object), inspired, inspiring.
1.
to fill with an animating, quickening, or exalting influence:
His courage inspired his followers.
2.
to produce or arouse (a feeling, thought, etc.):
to inspire confidence in others.
3.
to fill or affect with a specified feeling, thought, etc.:
to inspire a person with distrust.
4.
to influence or impel:
Competition inspired her to greater efforts.
5.
to animate, as an influence, feeling, thought, or the like, does:
They were inspired by a belief in a better future.
6.
to communicate or suggest by a divine or supernatural influence:
writings inspired by God.
7.
to guide or control by divine influence.

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Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by PastorAIO: 6:03pm On Jan 01, 2017
DoctorAlien:
While many Jews erroneously held the belief that infirmities come only to sinners(or children of sinners), some still knew that such an idea was wrong.

DoctorAlien:
Only a lethal dose of ignorance mixed with a proportionate amount of dishonesty can make a human being argue that[b] the Jews held the belief[/b] that sin was the cause of infirmity, and that each time healing occurred, sins were forgiven.

See how blatantly you are contradicting yourself. You seem to be a really confused fellow.


The paralytic man brought to Jesus for healing had lived a very sinful life up till that moment. He engaged in a life of immorality. And so at the point where his friends brought him before Jesus, he was in need of both spiritual and physical healing. Seeing the sinful state of the man's heart, and the faith of his friends in what He could do, Jesus forgave the paralytic man his sins. He then healed his body.


Please, what passages in the bible did you get these extra information on the life and times of the crippled guy? I'm sure you didn't just make it up, because you are not a dishonestly fantasist.



James, speaking about sick people, said "if they have sinned..." The if there means that there is a possibility that they might not have sinned. Of course we know that righteous people fall sick too. James encouraged Christians to confess their faults to those they offended, and then enjoined the offended to forgive their fellow men, just as Christ directed.


What!!!?? Men, forgiving men Surely not! Forgiveness is the prerogative of God!!


GOD alone is the one who ultimately forgives and removes sin, as 1 Jn. 1:9 states.

As the Ominipotentate of Everything it is God that ultimately does everything.

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Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by DoctorAlien(m): 6:05pm On Jan 01, 2017
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PastorAIO:
See how blatantly you are contradicting yourself. You seem to be a really confused fellow.

Please, what passages in the bible did you get these extra information on the life and times of the crippled guy? I'm sure you didn't just make it up, because you are not a dishonestly fantasist.

What!!!?? Men, forgiving men Surely not! Forgiveness is the prerogative of God!!

As the Ominipotentate of Everything it is God that ultimately does everything.
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Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by Deicide: 6:08pm On Jan 01, 2017
4everGod:



Please kindly desist from mentioning me or my moniker forthwith. I do not take kindly to trolls and people with dishonesty and guile flowing in their system who end up pushing it out with a sprinkling of illiteracy

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/inspired (EXTENDED VERSION)

inspire
[in-spahyuh r]
Spell Syllables
verb (used with object), inspired, inspiring.
1.
to fill with an animating, quickening, or exalting influence:
His courage inspired his followers.
2.
to produce or arouse (a feeling, thought, etc.):
to inspire confidence in others.
3.
to fill or affect with a specified feeling, thought, etc.:
to inspire a person with distrust.
4.
to influence or impel:
Competition inspired her to greater efforts.
5.
to animate, as an influence, feeling, thought, or the like, does:
They were inspired by a belief in a better future.
6.
to communicate or suggest by a divine or supernatural influence:
writings inspired by God.
7.
to guide or control by divine influence.

I didn't Quote you directly I only mentioned you to caution someone giving the fact of how dishonest you can be... Oh and a fraud to lipsrsealed

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Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by PastorAIO: 6:12pm On Jan 01, 2017
Deicide:
PastorAio do yourself a favour by Opening any link 4evergod trows at you now go back and open the like he gave you don't be lazy...

OMG!!! Is it really as bad as that!!! Oh sweet Jesus. Bwahahahahahahah! Oh God, I'm falling apart here.

So the dude just makes up dictionary entries. I'm laughing now, but underneath the laughing this is actually quite disturbing. Sickening even.



So there is nowhere in the link he presented where you find his definition but he just made it up.
4everGod:


www.dictionary.com/browse/inspired


inspired
ɪnˈspʌɪəd/
adjective
1.
of extraordinary quality, as if arising from some external creative impulse.
"they had to thank the goalkeeper for some inspired saves"

2.
(of air or another substance) that is breathed in.
"inspired air must be humidified"


Then tried to cover it up with another lie:

6.
to communicate or suggest by a divine or supernatural influence:
writings inspired by God.
7.
to guide or control by divine influence.


... which is not what he quoted in the first place and still isn't in the link.


These people are real Sons of their Father. The Father of Lies.

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Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by Nobody: 6:13pm On Jan 01, 2017
PastorAIO:




See how blatantly you are contradicting yourself. You seem to be a really confused fellow.



Please, what passages in the bible did you get these extra information on the life and times of the crippled guy? I'm sure you didn't just make it up, because you are not a dishonestly fantasist.




What!!!?? Men, forgiving men Surely not! Forgiveness is the prerogative of God!!



As the Ominipotentate of Everything it is God that ultimately does everything.


Gosh...Why all this nonsense in the name of holding an argument. You see what you wish at face value and nothing more.

Forgiveness is in 2 forms

Forgiveness by/from men which brings spiritual/emotional healing in each individual or collectively/

Then there is Gods forgiveness which is tied to the forgiveness of Men and this was why Jesus when he was teaching the Lords prayer said

AND FORGIVE US OUR TRESPASSES AS WE FORGIVE THEM WHO TRESPASS AGAINST US...A trespass is an offence or cause to sin or affliction or persecution)

When we forgive men God forgives us but when we do not then we hold unforgiveness in our heart and this is an evnue through which the devil can use to make us loose out on the promises of God.

Man can forgive sin carried out to him by another man but his forgiveness only justifies the one who forgave and not the recipient because the recipient still has his role to play twofold by seeking forgiveness from the one he offended and also from God who ultimately Justifies him.
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by Nobody: 6:15pm On Jan 01, 2017
Deicide:

I didn't Quote you directly I only mentioned you to caution someone giving the fact of how dishonest you can be... Oh and a fraud to lipsrsealed

I do not care if you quoted me directly or indirectly. Let my moniker not appear in your mentions even as a keyboard error. Proofread whatever dishonesty you type before submitting it.
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by Nobody: 6:17pm On Jan 01, 2017
PastorAIO:


OMG!!! Is it really as bad as that!!! Oh sweet Jesus. Bwahahahahahahah! Oh God, I'm falling apart here.

So the dude just makes up dictionary entries. I'm laughing now, but underneath the laughing this is actually quite disturbing. Sickening even.



So there is nowhere in the link he presented where you find his definition but he just made it up.


Then tried to cover it up with another lie:



... which is not what he quoted in the first place and still isn't in the link.


These people are real Sons of their Father. The Father of Lies.


Young man you must be more idiotic than the one you are responding to. Open the link, I posted an adjective which is part of the website definition of inspired and then i also expanded that and posted the verb.

Wow i know you are desperate to win an argument but it shouldnt be at the expense of common sense.
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by Deicide: 6:18pm On Jan 01, 2017
4everGod:


I do not care if you quoted me directly or indirectly. Let my moniker not appear in your mentions even as a keyboard error. Proofread whatever dishonesty you type before submitting it.
Please stop mentioning me to I wouldn't wanna stain myself with u'r Fraud diseases...

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Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by Nobody: 6:20pm On Jan 01, 2017
Deicide:

Please stop mentioning me to I wouldn't wanna stain myself with u'r Fraud diseases...

You may as well extend my warning to hanaway, hanaway1, Anas08, Anas07, Anas06, 4evergod4, 4evergod5 and the rest. All your trolling accounts.
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by Anas09: 6:33pm On Jan 01, 2017
frosbel2:
Hell is a sign of God's LOVE for you , in fact he LOVES you so deeply that he is going to burn you forever if you do not LOVE him back.

God wants you to LOVE him perfectly because he LOVED you first , and if you spurn this LOVE or refuse to LOVE him back , you will be plunged into the bottomless abyss in an instant, burning with brimstone for all of eternity.

You see , your soul is so precious to God that he is determined to punish you for all eternity for losing it by a sinful and wicked lifestyle. Don't worry, when you are burning in eternal agony, embraced by the flames of his wrath and consumed by the worm that dies not, you can be comforted in knowing that it is all because God LOVES you :-)

Without HELL there cannot be God's LOVE because after all, how can God LOVE his creatures without the threat of eternal torture , this is the only way he can keep you in line with his LOVE and make you appreciate what he has done to save you from this terrible place.

God is LOVE, remember ? Oh yes, you cannot afford to forget for if you do , hell awaits you for eternity.

Hell is real and God is LOVE.




God won't be the one to plunge anyone into hellfire, anyone who rejects Christ has automatically plunge himself into hellfire. Its a choice.
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by Anas09: 6:36pm On Jan 01, 2017
niyihawking:
if there is only one way god can make us love him(through hell threat)



then he's neither Omnipotent nor omniscient


why


cos a supreme being with unlimited power would not have limited ways of doing things
Can you make me love you? You make me obey you, but can you make me love you?

Do even know what love is?
Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by dalaman: 6:36pm On Jan 01, 2017
DoctorAlien:
While many Jews erroneously held the belief that infirmities come only to sinners(or children of sinners), some still knew that such an idea was wrong.

The paralytic man brought to Jesus for healing had lived a very sinful life up till that moment. He engaged in a life of immorality. And so at the point where his friends brought him before Jesus, he was in need of both spiritual and physical healing. Seeing the sinful state of the man's heart, and the faith of his friends in what He could do, Jesus forgave the paralytic man his sins. He then healed his body.

James, speaking about sick people, said "if they have sinned..." The if there means that there is a possibility that they might not have sinned. Of course we know that righteous people fall sick too. James encouraged Christians to confess their faults to those they offended, and then enjoined the offended to forgive their fellow men, just as Christ directed.

GOD alone is the one who ultimately forgives and removes sin, as 1 Jn. 1:9 states.

The part in bold is a lie. Jesus told his desciples that they have the.power to forgive sins.

21 Again Jesus said, “Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you.” 22 And with that he breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive anyone’s sins, their sins are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven John 20:21-23

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