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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:33am On Jan 16, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Those are disses, not our main problems. We made lots of transfer errors before Guardiola came. For example, the Mangala deal. Guardiola also met an aging team which is not his fault. We are still playing well.

We beat some top sides with an aging squad. It is so easy to see. With some freshness in the side which will come next season, we will play better.

My disappointment is the youngsters we did not integrate into the team. Players like Alex Garcia, Angelino, Maffeo, Denayer, Manu Garcia and Adarabioyo.

We are paying for those reckless decisions.

Untested youngsters playing U23 is not the same as first team football. The transition is not that easy, look at Chuba Akpom great at U18 & U21 but couldn't cut it to the next level.

Adarabioyo is no where near the standard required City youth players are not ready yet, if at all.

The team is not old as you have put it, that is a very weak excuse. Consider the current Balon Dor winner is Ronaldo who is literally 32.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:40am On Jan 16, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Is not about overpaying. We wanted an English Center half that fitted Pep's philosophy. Players are mad expensive now. You can not expect to get English players of that caliber cheap. That is why Sterling who was worth no way near that price got that much.

As long as you are going for English top players, you pay through your noses.

We suffered this with Sinclair, Delph and Rodwell.

As for Me, find top quality young teens from other countries. Groom them in the academy and make them beat the home grown quota instead of fighting for English players.

Rodwell was a marketing scam by Everton that city fell for, was never real quality.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:51am On Jan 16, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


I can not okay everything City do. I was mad at the sacking of Mancini. It was crazy after he came second in the FA Cup and League. The whole not qualifying for Europe will come but the management were impatient. We are still paying for that action because he was one person who knew how to build a formidable squad.

I am definitely mad at the way we have handled our youth policy. It sickens me when I see Alexander Arnold at 18 start against Manchester United today in such a big game. See a kid like Davies run past our players and score.

It is still the same old thing I have cried repeatedly on this thread. Experience is overrated. What is the use of the Experience when Zabby and Yaya can not shield the defence. We have a young Alex Garcia. It is better we play the young players than have the so called experienced players performing abysmally.

With Kolarov, Clichy and to some extent Sagna performing poorly, why send Maffeo and Angelino on loan. Beats my imagination.

I doubt Adarabioyo can perform as poorly as Stones did today.

What policy

You argued with me about the youth policy. City have been doing arrangements for donkey years when they were at Platt lane same thing.

I have said facilities don't make the best team philosophy, vision good players and good coaches.

Until Pep humbles himself and starts to influence the recruitment and coaching process and philosophy at ground level, status quo remains.

Compare Brendan Rogers as soon as he came to Liverpool he spent a lot of time at the academy. He Brought forward more players from the youth teams than any other manager in the history of Liverpool modern football.

He also sacked with immediate effect Rodolfo and arrangement man Frank McParland in one day. Where did the corrupted Rodolfo end up Manchester city, NUFF SAID.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:34am On Jan 16, 2017
Who send me o........

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 12:10pm On Jan 16, 2017
Lazyerudite:

You forgot to include Bravo, he should have left Hart jeje

Even Enyeama can't help that defence. Hart is having an average season in Italy btw.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 12:15pm On Jan 16, 2017
tbaba1234:


Pep spent money to buy both players.. perhaps we should question his judgement..

I stand by Bravo but Stones is bad.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 12:44pm On Jan 16, 2017
goldfish80:

Is Otamendi getting old too? Dude is just 28... He should be in his prime.
Most of Man city players are dipping in form including Iheanacho.
Otamendi has lost pace and can't keep up with the EPL. Maybe Serie A
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 12:46pm On Jan 16, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


Even Enyeama can't help that defence. Hart is having an average season in Italy btw.
Some goals conceded by Bravo no be am. Even Arsenal can attest to having a good goal keeper likewise Man united. So don't underestimate the value of a good keeper

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 1:58pm On Jan 16, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


I stand by Bravo but Stones is bad.
Hmmm! Bravo have only saved 52% of shot on goal letting in 48% very poor

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:13pm On Jan 16, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Those are disses, not our main problems. We made lots of transfer errors before Guardiola came. For example, the Mangala deal. Guardiola also met an aging team which is not his fault. We are still playing well.

We beat some top sides with an aging squad. It is so easy to see. With some freshness in the side which will come next season, we will play better.

My disappointment is the youngsters we did not integrate into the team. Players like Alex Garcia, Angelino, Maffeo, Denayer, Manu Garcia and Adarabioyo.

We are paying for those reckless decisions.

How can you integrate into the team all these youngsters at once na. undecided
This is no youth league o.

Anyways, I am not surprised. Pep will 'drill' them in camp.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:15pm On Jan 16, 2017
zicky:
Hmmm! Bravo have only saved 52% of shot on goal letting in 48% very poor

That Bravo IMO is about the worst goalie in the EPL this season. He only managed to catch one shot in yesterday's game.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 2:20pm On Jan 16, 2017
Icon4s:


That Bravo IMO is about the worst goalie in the EPL this season. He only managed to catch one shot in yesterday's game.
don't forget he's a ball playing goalie grin very good on his foot cheesy na through that same leg lookman shot follow enter.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:25pm On Jan 16, 2017
zicky:
don't forget he's a ball playing goalie grin very good on his foot cheesy na through that same leg lookman shot follow enter.

'Ball playing keeper' indeed. Them for just kukuma convert am to defender make dem go find new keeper. Even the "ball playing John Stones' turn to Everton player yesterday-just dey give Everton striker assists. Sebi na Everton he dey before. He forgot he is now a City player.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Segadem(m): 2:26pm On Jan 16, 2017
goldfish80:

Is Otamendi getting old too? Dude is just 28... He should be in his prime.
Most of Man city players are dipping in form including Iheanacho.
...may be that one is aging too!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:27pm On Jan 16, 2017
Segadem:

...may be that one is aging too!

goldfish80:

[/quote] Is Otamendi getting old too? Dude is just 28... He should be in his prime.
Most of Man city players are dipping in form including Iheanacho [/quote]

You mean Iheanacho too is aging? grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Segadem(m): 2:32pm On Jan 16, 2017
Icon4s:


You mean Iheanacho too is aging? grin
no be me talk am oh, na goodjoe say most of the man city players are aging,

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:33pm On Jan 16, 2017
Segadem:

no be me talk am oh, na goodjoe say most of the man city players are aging,

I know na. Even Including Pep. His aging has so accelerated ever since he came to the EPL.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 3:27pm On Jan 16, 2017
Istanbul Basaksahir have signed right back Junior caicara. More trouble for Musa.. What are his agents doing, Biko??
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 3:35pm On Jan 16, 2017
Bravo has saved 57.41% of shots on target in the Premier League (18 of 31)

That puts him 14th overall in save percentage, among keepers to have played 15 games or more

Burnley's Tom Heaton has the highest save percentage with 76.32% (87 of 114)

Bravo has conceded 14 goals from the last 22 shots on target faced

Courtesy:BBC
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 4:00pm On Jan 16, 2017
Lazyerudite:

Some goals conceded by Bravo no be am. Even Arsenal can attest to having a good goal keeper likewise Man united. So don't underestimate the value of a good keeper

Name the goal conceded that u would have stopped for a fact? Where were u when Czech took 4 against Liverpool.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 4:03pm On Jan 16, 2017
Icon4s:


How can you integrate into the team all these youngsters at once na. undecided
This is no youth league o.

Anyways, I am not surprised. Pep will 'drill' them in camp.
Baba u no go kill person wit laughter.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Segadem(m): 4:05pm On Jan 16, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


Name the goal conceded that u would have stopped for a fact? Where were u when Czech took 4 against Liverpool.
what we are saying is that he concedes too much, Everton had four on target and all the four resulted to four goals, that's 0% saves
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 4:21pm On Jan 16, 2017
tbaba1234:
Bravo has saved 57.41% of shots on target in the Premier League (18 of 31)

That puts him 14th overall in save percentage, among keepers to have played 15 games or more

Burnley's Tom Heaton has the highest save percentage with 76.32% (87 of 114)

Bravo has conceded 14 goals from the last 22 shots on target faced

Courtesy:BBC
Bravo don suffer ooo. Football playing gone wrong.

E don tey I know se this guy won't be able to cope in d EPL considering d leagues's intensity. He was exposed in city's first leg league game against Man-u. He was woeful. But he escaped due man-u players lack of cutting edge in front of goal.

Pep should know 1000dribbles, 99% ball possession can never be equated to 'a' goal scored.
As someone said
"THIS IS EPL" the earlier he understand this d better for him. English fans are not patient. They want result n not philosophy.

I won't be suprised if city fails to qualify for champions league.
Though TheGoodJoe will not be happy wit this.
*takes cover*

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 4:31pm On Jan 16, 2017
Please those of you who have seen Henry Onyekuru play, how good is he compared to Zim's Karma Billiat? They have same body frame and operate from same wing. Does he have feet as quick as Billiat''s, does he posses same trickery, dribbles, close control, composure and accuracy as Billiat?

I saw a sweet young (20) full back in Bouanga of Gabon, quick feet, full of running, good passer of the ball, intelligent crosser and of course clinical tackler. Please compare Tyrone Ebuehi to Bouanga if uv seen Ebuehi play mbok.

Tbaba, goodjoe, forgiveness, BascoVanVeli, bigblangston, goldfish80 et al

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 4:34pm On Jan 16, 2017
Icon4s:

How can you integrate into the team all these youngsters at once na. undecided This is no youth league o.
Anyways, I am not surprised. Pep will 'drill' them in camp.
@drilling Lol. This man u nogo kill me with laughter oo
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 4:34pm On Jan 16, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


Name the goal conceded that u would have stopped for a fact? Where were u when Czech took 4 against Liverpool.
Errmm, let's not toll that line o. Because Czech conceded 4 against Liverpool is not the bone of contention, bravo is a poor keeper period and he is conceding too many goals o. You can't buy a striker and keep claiming he can defend well while he is failing to score

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 4:37pm On Jan 16, 2017
ChrisKels:
Please those of you who have seen Henry Onyekuru play, how good is he compared to Zim's Karma Billiat? They have same body frame and operate from same wing. Does he have feet as quick as Billiat''s, does he posses same trickery, dribbles, close control, composure and accuracy as Billiat?

I saw a sweet young (20) full back in Bouanga of Gabon, quick feet, full of running, good passer of the ball, intelligent crosser and of course clinical tackler. Please compare Tyrone Ebuehi to Bouanga if uv seen Ebuehi play mbok.

Tbaba, goodjoe, forgiveness, BascoVanVeli, bigblangston, goldfish80 et al
The Henry guy is okay if what I have seen on the net is anything to go by, but playing in a more competitive league will expose him to better challenges and that is what he needs, he does seem to hold on to the ball a lot though

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 4:42pm On Jan 16, 2017
ChrisKels:
Please those of you who have seen Henry Onyekuru play, how good is he compared to Zim's Karma Billiat? They have same body frame and operate from same wing. Does he have feet as quick as Billiat''s, does he posses same trickery, dribbles, close control, composure and accuracy as Billiat?

I saw a sweet young (20) full back in Bouanga of Gabon, quick feet, full of running, good passer of the ball, intelligent crosser and of course clinical tackler. Please compare Tyrone Ebuehi to Bouanga if uv seen Ebuehi play mbok.

Tbaba, goodjoe, forgiveness, BascoVanVeli, bigblangston, goldfish80 et al

I do not know Karma Billiat but for Onyekuru, he has the potential of being world class if he refines certain parts of his game. He hugs the ball a lot and does not use his teammates enough. For positives, he has lightening pace and great close control and trickery. His goal return shows that he is growing in composure in front of goal.

Ebuehi is a traditional right back from what i have seen, not explosive but will do a good job for you at right back or left back.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 4:44pm On Jan 16, 2017
Segadem:

what we are saying is that he concedes too much, Everton had four on target and all the four resulted to four goals, that's 0% saves

No, don't say that, those goals went in due to the accuracy applied by the Everton players, you can't blame Bravo for that, he is good with his feet not his palms remember. He was bought to use his feet more than his palms. Also don't blame City strikers for failing to score, blame Pep neither but rather blame Everton keeper for being too brilliant...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 4:52pm On Jan 16, 2017
Lazyerudite:

The Henry guy is okay if what I have seen on the net is anything to go by, but playing in a more competitive league will expose him to better challenges and that is what he needs, he does seem to hold on to the ball a lot though

Have u seen Karma Billiat play? I thought his exploit with sundowns was a fluke until I had a close watch at him against Algeria yesterday. Dude is a wing wizard. He skinned Algerian defenders.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 4:54pm On Jan 16, 2017
tbaba1234:


I do not know Karma Billiat but for Onyekuru, he has the potential of being world class if he refines certain parts of his game. He hugs the ball a lot and does not use his teammates enough. For positives, he has lightening pace and great close control and trickery. His goal return shows that he is growing in composure in front of goal.

Ebuehi is a traditional right back from what i have seen, not explosive but will do a good job for you at right back or left back.

Thanks sir, but u have to see Billiat

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 5:04pm On Jan 16, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


How can I claim to do a better job than Pep? I have not started. That man is a guru. I wish I can watch one of his tactical sessions.

To the wing play, I agree in tactics having ways to fall for others. But, I am talking of the issues facing City.

With the compact ways team plays against us, the solution is to operate with more with. However, due to the aging full backs, it is difficult to cause damage this way.

That is why I expect us to improve with more freshness in the team and more wing play.
Your comments Infer That you know better than him.

You keep saying on here what Pep should've done.

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