@Sauron

Ricthboy is a thick fool . . . dont blame him.

@Ibime

Well done , i'm loving you.

@Nateevs

You are just hating. . . .

Gerrard

Liverpool's captain doesn't just score plenty of goals, his back catalogue is crammed with spectacular sizzlers, the sort that raise the roof and carry the crowd along on a wave of emotion. Not only that, he's always had the knack of rising to the occasion, demonstrated recently by strikes in back-to-back Merseyside derbies.

That's partly why Gerrard is worshipped at Anfield. The fans know their No 8 invariably delivers on cue, thanks to a famous flair for seizing the moment. More so than Lampard, this swashbuckling character relies on his instincts, especially when a tight game cries out for inspiration.

As a result, he probably takes more risks than his counterpart in possession, which inevitably leads to the odd ball going astray. But Gerrard has tempered his ambition over the years, those hit-and-miss 'Hollywood' passes attempted much less. Also with age comes better judgment in the tackle. He rarely gets lured into taking drastic action. Red mist and late lunges seem a thing of the past in someone well aware of his on-field responsibilities.

That growing maturity, what's more, has made the 28 year-old more responsive to playing somewhere other than in his favoured central position, even though that doesn't happen much with Liverpool these days. Rafa Benitez either plays him in the middle or as a second striker.

He can do both brilliantly, too, aided by a prodigious capacity for running that has just about reached its peak. If Liverpool blow it this year, it will have nothing to do with their dynamic captain.

Lampard

In contrast to Gerrard, it is easy at times to miss the contributions of this highly motivated individual such is the wonderful simplicity of his passing game. One or two touches, he rarely takes more when that middle ground becomes unbearably congested.

There is no-one better at it either; no-one more skilled in the art of the quick-fire pass under pressure, having expertly worked out distances and angles before the ball arrives at his feet.

[b]Those calculations often result in a diagonal first-time pass over the top where, in the good times, Didier Drogba could be seen racing away. If that's not on, Lampard will choose something a little more conservative, if equally impressive in terms of peripheral vision and ability to spot the right pass in the blink of an eye.

From a positional point of view, he is probably more disciplined than Gerrard, more suited to following a rigid game plan. Never was this firm grasp of tactics better showcased than during England's 4-1 win in Croatia last September when Lampard sat deep to provide defensive cover – a performance all the more worthy given his natural game.

Arriving in the box with exquisite timing and hitting the target with a snap shot – now that's more his style. Nobody in the world, I think, has done it for so long at the top level with quite so much success.

An unquenchable thirst for practice undoubtedly helps. There aren't many footballers who can honestly say they've done everything humanly possible to reach their full potential. Lampard can. The ultimate pro, he's a credit to the game.
[/b]
Conclusion

The statistics speak loud and clear. Over the last eight years, Lampard has scored more goals than Gerrard and contributed more assists in a Chelsea side winning two Premier League titles. Difficult to argue against such stunning figures.

Gerrard, on the other hand, leans more towards romance, as close as they come to Roy of the Rovers, more impulse than efficiency as a one-man driving force. Two years younger, he's probably a bit fitter as well. That's why, if pushed, I would have him just ahead on points in a straight comparison.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/4403519/Frank-Lampard-vs-Steven-Gerrard-Whos-the-midfield-maestro.html

@ Dyabman,

How is this article different to what Ibime and I have been telling Gerrard fans?
The article stated all what we have been saying since day one.
Gerrard appears to be effective with those hit n miss Hollywood passes and it stays in one's memory whereas Lampard keeps his game simple and delivers the killer ball with so much simplicity and accuracy that observers would hardly notice.

I have seen enough of the 2 midfielders and to be frank. . . . . .Lampard is the better midfielder.

Sauron
the writer CONCLUDED GERRARD IS BETTER THAN LAMPARD. . . that is NOT what you have been telling us

ritchboy:

Sauron
the writer CONCLUDED GERRARD IS BETTER THAN LAMPARD. . . that is NOT what you have been telling us

U lack comprehension skills.

He said you cannot argue with Lampard's statistics.
Gerrard is about romance. He provokes the emotions in people like you who cherish perspiration rather than INSPIRATION.
U don't have to run around like a headless chicken to play football like Gerrard does.

The writer said Gerrard, on the other hand, leans more towards romance, as close as they come to Roy of the Rovers, more impulse than efficiency as a one-man driving force. Two years younger, he's probably a bit fitter as well. That's why, if pushed, I would have him just ahead on points in a straight comparison.

1) Gerrard has no efficiency. Brawns without brains.
2) Two years younger than Lampard and he is hardly fit to complete a season. I think this is more of a credit to Lampard than Gerrard.
3) He said if pushed, he would put Gerrard ahead of Lampard. Hypothetical statement. . . .IF PUSHED but he is not pushed.

From a positional point of view, he is probably more disciplined than Gerrard, more suited to following a rigid game plan. Never was this firm grasp of tactics better showcased than during England's 4-1 win in Croatia last September when Lampard sat deep to provide defensive cover – a performance all the more worthy given his natural game.

I also educated you about Gerrard's lack of positional discipline.
The writer is reaffirming that here. Gerrard in a 2-man midfield is a waste of time.

ritchboy:

Sauron
the writer CONCLUDED GERRARD IS BETTER THAN LAMPARD. . . that is NOT what you have been telling us

The writer spent the whole article telling us why Lampard is superior to Gerrard. . . . his final verdict is disingenuous. . . .you cannot spend the whole article telling us Lamps is a better passer, more efficient, more disciplined and harder worker, then come back to conclude that Gerrard shades it. . . on what?. . . . on goals?. . . . on emotion?

Incase you dont know, it is career suicide for any journalist in UK to put the golden boy down. . . .he arouses too much emotion. . . .  the website would be flooded with protests from brainwashed morons. . . . .the kind of morons that send death threats to Lampard cos they believe that if Gerrard was given freedom of Englands midfield, England would win the world cup. . . .  . . . Martin Samuel of The Times nearly received death threats when he wrote that Gerrard should be dropped for Lampard for England. . .any conservative journalist would be wary of writing harshly of Gerrard.

Trying to get a member of the British establishment to concede that Lamps is better than Gerrard is harder than trying to get Liverpool fans to concede that Terry is better than Carragher. 

According to sauron, gerrard has "NO EFFICIENCY" and is "hardly fit to complete a season". . . If ur stupidity is converted to mega-watts, it will solve Nigeria's power crisis
when the writer said he would pick gerrard if pushed, he meant there isnt much to chose between them but gerrard edges it. A 5 star dimwit called sauron has taken it literally and is telling me its a hypothetical statement since the writer hasnt been pushed. Its obvious you are the one who lacks comprehensional skills. In short, the money spent on ur formal education should have been used to by raffle tickets

Gerrard's positional indiscipline is a myth. . .
I remember when McClaren insisted on playing gerrard and lampard together without a holding midfielder. Gerrard was the one who ALWAYS sat back and let lampard bomb forward. Now he's "tactically indisciplined" cos Rafa gives him freedom to roam behind torres and less tactical responsibility? Is it his fault he's versatile and strikes the ball so well he makes strikers green with envy?

Ibime
if u were any further off the mark, you'd be in anothe solar system. The writer didnt tell us how much better lampard is than gerrard before his verdict. He highlighted both players strengths. Of course, u have chosen to see what you want.
Yet again, the writer cites stats as the main thing lampard has over gerrard. And yet again i say stats are useless in football.
I'm still waiting for yall to compare iniesta's stats to lampard in any given season over the last 6 years. Is lampard better than iniesta? My enzymes are giggling

ritchboy:

According to sauron, gerrard has "NO EFFICIENCY" and is "hardly fit to complete a season". . . If your stupidity is converted to mega-watts, it will solve Nigeria's power crisis

You are a dork with the world's richest STUPIDITY.
How many games has Gerrard played in the last 5 seasons compared to Lampard?
This was the same Lampard that broke a ridiculous amount of consecutive league games some seasons ago and you are here disgracing your LAST NAME for the sake of winning an argument.

when the writer said he would pick gerrard if pushed, he meant there isnt much to chose between them but gerrard edges it.

Hot pap musta replaced your brain cells.
A writer that undressed Gerrard that he's lacking positional discipline is who edges it?
Now i know why you dropped out of Junior High. U told us it was lack of funds but i now know your IQ is lower than your shoe size.

A 5 star dimwit called sauron has taken it literally and is telling me its a hypothetical statement since the writer hasnt been pushed. Its obvious you are the one who lacks comprehensional skills.

I am nearly weeping for your ineptitude here. . . .
You are supposed to hide in your locker room and wail in anguish. People would ask you what's wrong and you must reply them that you are a waste of Y-chromosomes. The writer was smart with his article leaving many gaps uncovered for people to deduce who is better.

After telling us Lampard's stats back him as the better midfielder coupled with Gerrard's lack of positional disciplined, only a complete ninny in your echelon would still think Gerrard is the better midfielder.
Where were you when your mates paid good money for quality education?

In short, the money spent on your formal education should have been used to by raffle tickets

No money was spent on your education so i would say the Y-chromosomes that made you shoulda been used to fertilize the ovaries of a Gorilla in a control experiment.

Sauron
so cos lampard averages more appearances than gerrard(and almost every other player in the league), gerrard(and other players) are "HARDLY FIT TO COMPLETE A SEASON"? U are so POOR intellectually, u cant even PAY attention
That the writer said lampard has better positional discipline than gerrard does NOT mean he thinks gerrard lacks positional discipline. If u are the biggest fool on earth and ibime is runner up, does it mean ibime is not a big fool?
The writer himself CONCLUDED gerrard is better than lampard and u are saying only a ninny would say gerrard is better. What does that make the writer? The same writer whose comments u quoted to butress ur point.
Sauron was BORN FOOLISH, IS FOOLISH today, and will STILL BE FOOLISH when his great great grand children have "666" tattooed on their fore-heads

ritchboy:

Sauron
so cos lampard averages more appearances than gerrard(and almost every other player in the league), gerrard(and other players) are "HARDLY FIT TO COMPLETE A SEASON"? U are so POOR intellectually, u cant even PAY attention

Your picture should be printed next to the word SIMPLETON in the Oxford dictionary.
Even a pubic louse knows Gerrard cannot be fit to save Liverpool's top four finish. Scousers blame their trophyless season last term because Torres and Gerrard played fewer games than their peers in other clubs because they couldn't stay FIT all season.

That the writer said lampard has better positional discipline than gerrard does NOT mean he thinks gerrard lacks positional discipline. If u are the biggest fool on earth and ibime is runner up, does it mean ibime is not a big fool?

Then ask yourself why Benitez stopped playing Gerrard in Liverpool's midfield.
He has been eased out of the central midfield by Capello and that explains why Lampard n Barry are now the preferred midfielders with Gerrard being moved to the left wing, 2nd striker and sometimes right wing. In a 2-man midfield formation, Denilson is better than Gerrard.

The writer himself CONCLUDED gerrard is better than lampard and u are saying only a ninny would say gerrard is better. What does that make the writer? The same writer whose comments u quoted to butress your point.

There's a phallus in your brain.

Sauron was BORN FOOLISH, IS FOOLISH today, and will STILL BE FOOLISH when his great great grand children have "666" tattooed on their fore-heads

Words of a loser.
Lampard shytes on Gerrard and that's a FACT!!!!!
He's scored more goals, copped more assists and he has threaded more KEY passes.
Lampard has helped his team win the league TWICE, what has your Scouser pal won in the last 3 seasons? A court case.

ritchboy:

Ibime
The writer didnt tell us how much better lampard is than gerrard before his verdict. He highlighted both players strengths.

Can you look through his whole article again and pinpoint ONE area where he said Gerrard is better than Lampard?


He said:

(1.) Lamps is the better passer
(2.) Lamps is a better creator and makes more assists
(3.) Lamps has better technique to play in a congested midfield
(4.) Lamps is more efficient
(5.) Lamps is more tactically disciplined
(6.) Lamps scores more goals
(7.) Gerrard is improving on his Hollywood passes that go astray (ie a slight criticism of Gerrard)


And what did he say about Gerrard:

(1.) He inspires romance
(2.) He carries the crowd on a wave of emotion
(3.) He is Roy of the Rovers
(4.) He is a good runner (but not better than Lamps. . . cos Lamps has the best running stats in the Prem)
(5.) He is a good shooter of the ball
(6.) He delivers on cue



Now, tell me. . . . which of Gerrard's qualities are quantifiable here?. . . . . the writer said like I said to Edoyad. . . . Gerrrard appeals to emotion, not logic. . . . he did not list one single quantifiable thing that Gerrard does better than Lampard. . . .


This is a case of pre-determined result. . . . he made all the inputs in favour of Lampard. . . .but he had already pre-arranged the final output in favour of Gerrard. . . . 


. . . . so as to be politically correct and avoid controversy!


He even justifies his final decision by saying Gerrard shades it cos he is 2 years younger and fitter. . . . hmmmm. . . .as you can see, he is just looking for an excuse to pick Gerrard and avoid controversy. . . . yes, Gerrrard is 2 years younger.  . .  . but fitter?. . . . hell no!. . . . Lamps on average covers half a km more than Gerrard per game. . .



[size=5pt]Im glad that at least he told Nateevs that Lampard has better midfield technique than Gerrard.  [/size]

Sauron
since gerrard established himself in liverpool's XI, he averages like 34 league games per season, and u are telling me he is "hardly fit". . . Ur IQ is at par with that of a traumatised leech

Gerrard is versatile, its normal for him to play different positions. It has nothing to do with tactical indischpline. Iniesta also plays wide for spain(and barca at times), is he positionally indisciplined as well? It's called VERSATILITY, something lampard will never have.

Ibime
i can also argue the writer was biased towards lampard since he told us what lampard does better and failed to highlight what gerrard does better, which are a million times more. Let me remind you:

gerrard has better range in his passing than lampard.
He is more creative than lampard.
His technique striking the ball, be it from range, on the half-volley, volley, ground, underwater, MURDERS lampard's(and just about every other player on earth), in cold blood
he is far more athletic than lampard, thats why he jumps and heads the ball far better.
He's more technically astute.
He dribbles better, lampard cant get past a scare crow.
He's much quicker.
He dictates play far better, bringing others into the game.
He's FITTER and more energetic, irrespective of what ur rubbish stats tell you.
He defends better(when asked to) than lampard.
He crosses the ball better, and takes better corners.
He hits a far better dead ball than lampard, who 99.99% of his set pieces either clatter the wall or fly into row Z.
He curls the ball better.
His presence on the field alone makes lampard look invisible.

I can go on and on. . . The only thing lampard does better than gerrard is stroll around the field anonymously like a vulture.
Only a seasoned ignoramus would even attempt to compare the two players.

LAMPARD IS THE MOST OVER RATED PLAYER IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF FOOTBALL!

ritchboy:

Ibime
i can also argue the writer was biased towards lampard since he told us what lampard does better and failed to highlight what gerrard does better, which are a million times more.

Oh. . . . so the writer is biased despite the fact he picked Gerrard.

ritchboy:

Let me remind you:

[s]gerrard has better range in his passing than lampard.[/s] Does he have short range? No!

He is more creative than lampard. Thats why Lamps makes more key passes and assists

His technique striking the ball, be it from range, on the half-volley, volley, ground, underwater, MURDERS lampard's(and just about every other player on earth), in cold blood - True!

he is far more athletic than lampard, thats why he jumps and heads the ball far better - True!

He's more technically astute. At what? The writer already told you Lamps has better technique in midfield play. You must mean technique at striking a ball or heading a ball.

[s]He dribbles better, lampard cant get past a scare crow.[/s] Dribbles or surges? None of em are dribblers.

He's much quicker - True!

[s]He dictates play far better, bringing others into the game.[/s] - False!. . . . as all the stats show. . .

[s]He's FITTER and more energetic, irrespective of what your rubbish stats tell you.[/s] - You mean faster, definitely not fitter.

[s]He defends better(when asked to) than lampard.[/s] . . . Can someone with poor positioning defend better? Check the defensive stats.

He crosses the ball better, and takes better corners - True!

He hits a far better dead ball than lampard. He curls the ball better. - True!

[s]His presence on the field alone makes lampard look invisible[/s] - An emotional reaction, not a logical one.

It comes back to the same old argument. . . . Gerrard is only better at Lampard at:

(1.) Shooting. . . . . so what, if he scores less goals?
(2.) Heading. . . . . so what, if he scores less goals?
(3.) Set-pieces. . . . . so what, if he scores less goals?
(4.) Pace. . . . . so what, if he scores less goals and makes less chances?
(5.) Longe range passing. . . . . so what, if he makes less assists?

Oh. . . . so the writer is biased despite the fact that he picked Gerrard.

YOU are the one who said his decision is "political". . . you cant have it both ways, son!

A. Gerrard is a better passer than lampard, LONG OR SHORT!
B. He is more creative. lampard also had more assists and "key passes" than cesc according to ur rubbish stats. Is lampard more creative than cesc as well? I'm having a 5 minute laugh.
C. He has better TECHNIQUE, do i really need to explain what that means?
D. Neither of them are great dribblers but gerrard is a better dribbler than lampard, FACT!
E. He brings his team mates into the game better than lampard. Lampard as a CM should be dictating play, instead he waits for others to bring him into the game, DISGRACE!
F. He has better stamina than lampard. . . Frank has fooled the whole world to believe he has great stamina by strolling through 90 minutes without breaking sweat. Gerrard EXERTS 99 times more energy than lampard, FACT!
G. He defends better than lampard. who would you fancy to stop an opposing player 1 be 1? . . . . . I thunk as much!!
H. Theres nothing 'emotional' about what i spit. Gerrard's presence/influence is far greater than lampard aka mr anonymous.
You can also add gerrard's superior upper body strength to the list and then realise THERE IS NO BASIS FOR COMPARISON. . . Gerrard is twice the player lampard is, AT LEAST!

And for the last time, STATS DONT MEAN SHYTE! Produce iniesta's stats in ANY GIVEN SEASON and it will pale in comparison to lampard's. Yet, a scientifically enhanced lampard is still inferior to a lobotomised iniesta

ritchboy:

Sauron
since gerrard established himself in liverpool's XI, he averages like 34 league games per season, and u are telling me he is "hardly fit". . . your IQ is at par with that of a traumatised leech

And i repeat your IQ is lower than your shoe-size.
Lampard is fitter than Gerrard in that he hardly misses Chelsea's games.
Between August 2001 and August 2005, Frank Lampard missed just 1 EPL game for Chelsea.

U have to be a simpleton to think Gerrard is fitter than Lampard.

Gerrard is versatile, its normal for him to play different positions. It has nothing to do with tactical indischpline. Iniesta also plays wide for spain(and barca at times), is he positionally indisciplined as well? It's called VERSATILITY, something lampard will never have.

His ineptitude is what makes him versatile for Liverpool and the 3 Lions.
Alonso left Liverpool and they fell apart. Why can't Gerrard fill Alonso's role perfectly if he is such a brilliant player?
The only reason Gerrard is being moved here and there is because he is not the best player for those roles in Liverpool and England.

Liverpool.
As a midfielder, Mascherano, Alonso and Lucas shyte on him.
As a supporting striker, Kuyt and Benayoun shyte on him.

England
As a winger, Lennon, Ashley Young, SWP, Beckham all shyte on Gerrard.
As a midfielder, Lampard, Barry, Carrick and Hargreaves shyte on Gerrard.

As a second striker, Rooney, Crouch and Heskey fart on him. .

Alright boyz. . . . enough yap for now. . .

Hopefully what romantics like Ritchboy can take away from this thread is a rethink on what they thought to be the black and white truth as portrayed by public sentiment and public emotion. . . .

Those who study the game for 90 minutes should be able to observe that Lamps contribution in midfield is immense. . . . whilst those who watch highlights see the bursting runs of Gerrard and get a skewed sense of his comparative influence. . . .

This discussion should help tactical lightweights like Ritchboy think twice about what they think constitutes a good midfielder. . . .

Those of us with tactical nous already know that Gerrard is incomparable to Lamps.


And of course, it goes without saying that Lampard has always won their battle for the No 8 shirt for England. . . . for 7 years straight. . . despite Gerrards protestations that the no 8 shirt is do or die for him, he has NEVER been able to wrestle it away from Lampard.


Good discussion.

ROFL @ tactical light-weights.

Good discussion though.

Sauron
gerrard is more athletic than lampard. It's very normal for the more athletic player to be fitter, especially when the latter is called FAT Frank . Fitness is not just about making a million appearances in a row. Friedel hasnt missed a game since God said "let there be light". Are u telling me he is fitter than Alex Song? You are a disgrace!
Alonso is a holding midfielder/deep lying play maker. U dont expect gerrard(CM/AM/SS/Winger) to replace him, EEDEEYOT!!



Look at this buffoon called ibime trying to son me. . . do i look like nateevs?
I actually WATCH games. . . U only seem to listen to commentary, by your own admission on match threads. Do you own a TV?
you are clutching at straws, bringing up irrelevant sh.t like the number 8 shirt. In any case, i remember lampard wearing the NUMBER 15 SHIRT and sitting on England's BENCH for some games not so long ago. A fit gerrard can never wear number 15 or sit on the bench. . . NEVER!!

ritchboy:

Sauron
gerrard is more athletic than lampard. It's very normal for the more athletic player to be fitter, especially when the latter is called FAT Frank . Fitness is not just about making a million appearances in a row. Friedel hasnt missed a game since God said "let there be light". Are u telling me he is fitter than Alex Song? You are a disgrace!

You are a bumbling retard comparing an outfield player to a goalkeeper.
Why are you such a simpleton?

Alonso is a holding midfielder/deep lying play maker. U dont expect gerrard(CM/AM/SS/Winger) to replace him, EEDEEYOT!!

Shut up your mouth.
There's no holding midfielder role in Liverpool.
Alonso and Mascherano are all central midfielders. . . . .The last holding midfielder in this league was Claude Makelele.
No wonder Ibime tagged you as a tactical lightweight. Olodo.

Very soon, this retard will tell us Vieira and Roy Keane are holding midfielders.

Sauron
so Mascherano, Vieira and Keane cant be called holding midfielders? Your idiocy is legendary!

Lampard averages more appearances than essien. Is lampard a fitter player than Essien? Sauron you are embarrassing urself!

ritchboy:

Sauron
so Mascherano, Vieira and Keane cant be called holding midfielders? Your idiocy is legendary!

They are central midfielders.
The only true HOLDING MIDFIELDER(who never ventures forward to support the attack) is Claude Makelele.
When you hold, you don't leave that position in any event. AM/LAM/RAM are fantasy pigments of FOOTBALL MANAGER.

Lampard averages more appearances than essien. Is lampard a fitter player than Essien? Sauron you are embarrassing urself!

Lampard is FITTER than Essien.
Having a bulky physical look does not make you FIT.
An outfield player that rarely misses games, posting 100% appearance for 3 straight seasons is a FIT player.

ritchboy:

In any case, i remember lampard wearing the NUMBER 15 SHIRT and sitting on England's BENCH for some games not so long ago.

Lamps has never been dropped for Gerrard, despite Gerrards unending media campaign for the no 8 shirt.

Only once possibly could he have been benched. . . against Andorra. . . . they said he had an injured hand, but I believe it was to take him out of the firing line cos England fans had been worked up into such a hateful frenzy, they started booing Lamps claiming he was holding Gerrard back.

Gerrard soon got his chance to claim the no8 shirt when Lamps was injured against Russia. . . . and he disgraced himself. . . . giving the ball away umpteen times, unable to keep possession, and ensuring that England could not cross the halfway line. . . . in effect, that loss against Russia knocked England out of Euro 2008 qualifying.


Adios!

Ibime:

Gerrard soon got his chance to claim the no8 shirt when Lamps was injured against Russia. . . . and he disgraced himself. . . . giving the ball away umpteen times, unable to keep possession, and ensuring that England could not cross the halfway line. . . . in effect, that loss against Russia knocked England out of Euro 2008 qualifying.

Adios!

The number of times Gerrard gives the ball away while attempting a Nollywood pass is nothing to write home about.
I have studied this Scouser for 2 seasons now and he gives the ball away more than John O'Shea.
If you need a cool possession player when you are a goal up, Gerrard is the last man to think of.

Euro 2004. . . . .England 1-2 France.
BBC

And England then lost all sense of discipline when Gerrard attempted a dangerous back-pass to James, with Henry in close pursuit.
The France striker pounced on the loose ball and was hauled to the ground by a despairing James.

Watch Gerrard's slide-rule pass to Henry @ 1.07secs.
[flash=425,400]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FpZI_ODSU4&hl=en_GB&fs=1&"[/flash]

Another slide-rule pass from Gerrard to Henry in Highbury.
This Gerrard must be the bestest midfielder on the planet cos his Bollywood passes seem to find even his opponents at will.

BBC:

Liverpool skipper Steven Gerrard's dreadful error handed Arsenal a victory which keeps alive their hopes of a Champions League spot for next season

Liverpool looked set to finish the stronger and Lehmann was relieved as Garcia's fearsome volley was partially blocked by Phillipe Senderos.
But their world fell apart in the space of a couple of minutes. First Alonso was sent off for a second yellow card, and seconds later, Gerrard's back pass laid the ball on a plate for Henry who rounded Reina to score.

[flash=425,400]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOIzXEdVDa0&hl=en_GB&fs=1&"[/flash]

ritchboy:

Lampard averages more appearances than essien. Is lampard a fitter player than Essien? Sauron you are embarrassing urself!

You must be a nincompoop if you think Essien is fitter than Lampard. . . .is it because you see Essien running at full speed that you think he has more stamina?

Mourinho said that analysis shows that, on average, Lampard runs 13 kilometres (eight miles) a match. "If you multiply that by 114 matches it's a big engine and a special car,"

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/lampard-approaches-record-546703.html


Last month Lampard broke the Premier League record for successive appearances and has now played 161 on the trot, never missing since Oct. 13 2001. It is a remarkable record, snatched from goalkeeper David James, for a midfielder and especially a classic box-to-box player who, Mourinho says, runs more kilometres per game than any of his players.

http://ia.rediff.com/cms/print.jsp?docpath=/sports/2005/dec/16lamp.htm


Why do you think Lamps is the only midfielder in the box when shite goes down?


Go and check Essiens running stats. . . . I've checked em before. . . Essien is a 12km a game man. . . .surprise, surprise, Ballack covers 12.5km. . . . more than Essien.

I have checked Gerrards stats before and Gerrard is also a 12km man like Essien.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/article722711.ece


You see. . . . it is only lightweights like yourself that see a player running at fullspeed (Gerrard, Essien) and automatically assume that he is fitter than a slower player (Lampard).


Educate yourself!

None of your arguments on this thread have been based in fact.

Ibime:

You must be a nincompoop if you think Essien is fitter than Lampard. . . .is it because you see Essien running at full speed that you think he has more stamina?

Mourinho said that analysis shows that, on average, Lampard runs 13 kilometres (eight miles) a match. "If you multiply that by 114 matches it's a big engine and a special car,"

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/lampard-approaches-record-546703.html


Last month Lampard broke the Premier League record for successive appearances and has now played 161 on the trot, never missing since Oct. 13 2001. It is a remarkable record, snatched from goalkeeper David James, for a midfielder and especially a classic box-to-box player who, Mourinho says, runs more kilometres per game than any of his players.

http://ia.rediff.com/cms/print.jsp?docpath=/sports/2005/dec/16lamp.htm


Why do you think Lamps is the only midfielder in the box when shite goes down?


Go and check Essiens running stats. . . . I've checked em before. . . Essien is a 12km a game man. . . .surprise, surprise, Ballack covers 12.5km. . . . more than Essien.

I have checked Gerrards stats before and Gerrard is also a 12km man like Essien.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/article722711.ece


You see. . . . it is only lightweights like yourself that see a player running at fullspeed and automatically assume that he is fitter than a slower player.


Educate yourself!

None of your arguments on this thread have been based in fact.

Don't belabour the obvious, Ritchboy is an air-head.
Apart from Cristiano Ronaldo when he was here, i don't know any other player as fit as Lampard in the EPL.
He doesn't stop running and at his age, he deserves all the credits.

Gerrard shoulda been deranged to do that  

~Sauron~:

Euro 2004. . . . .England 1-2 France.
Watch Gerrard's slide-rule pass to Henry @ 1.07secs.
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I remember that. . . . and can you believe they tried to blame David James for bringing down Henry?

Go and check all the newspaper reports, or listen to the MOTD commentary. . . . they tried to make David James look incompetent, instead of blaming Gerrard.

Ritchboy wouldnt remember cos he was living in Oluyole at that time. . . . probably still is.


Just goes to show that Gerrard is untouchable in the English press.

Thats why a writer will come out to tell you that Lampard is a better passer, creator, scorer, more efficient and better tactically. . . . then tell you that Gerrard shades it over Lamps based on the fact that "he carries the crowd on a wave of emotion" and other intangible qualities.

It is career suicide to criticise Gerrard in the media.

~Sauron~:

Don't belabour the obvious, Ritchboy is an air-head.
Apart from Cristiano Ronaldo when he was here, i don't know any other player as fit as Lampard in the EPL.
He doesn't stop running and at his age, he deserves all the credits.

Lamps will play at top-level till 35. Soon as Gerrards pace is gone (31 or 32), he'll be finished. Thats when he will have to rely on his non-existent technique in tight spaces.

Ibime:
is career suicide to criticise Gerrard in the media.
Lamps will play at top-level till 35. Soon as Gerrards pace is gone (31 or 32), he'll be finished. Thats when he will have to rely on his non-existent technique in tight spaces.

Without a doubt. . . . .Lamps can even top Giggsy's record if he avoids any career-threatening injury.

Sauron
so Makelele is the ONLY holding midfielder. . . Nairalanders are laughing at you while eating pop corn and sippin soda

Essien is a fitter player/human being/living organism than lampard. Fitness is a combination of physical attributes such as strength, balance, stamina, jumping, running etc, not playing 1234567890 games in a row. DUNCE!

Ibime
lampard WAS dropped. . . And he was given the number 15 shirt. He wasnt "dropped for gerrard", how can that be when gerrard was still in the side. He was dropped for Barry. . .
He wasnt dropped for protection. He was dropped cos he was SH.T! U cited one game gerrard played badly for england, well lampard is ALWAYS SH.T in black & white/red!
At the world cup, he couldnt manage a single shot on target despite having over 30 attempts, SHAME!
Gerrard plays far better for England than lampard. Only a Frank-a-pologist like yourself would dispute this!

ritchboy:

Sauron
so Makelele is the ONLY holding midfielder. . . Nairalanders are laughing at you while eating pop corn and sippin soda

Go to your soccer dictionary and peruse the role of a holding midfielder.
Alonso is a deep-lying playmaker. . . . .He doesn't hold shyte. Roy Keane/Vieira took turns to defend/attack in their pomp so they didn't hold nowt.
With Makelele, you have a complete holding midfielder whose one and only role is to shield his back four. . . .

Essien is a fitter player/human being/living organism than lampard. Fitness is a combination of physical attributes such as strength, balance, stamina, jumping, running etc, not playing 1234567890 games in a row. DUNCE!

Even after reading Mourinho's comment, you still think Essien is a fitter player?
I was once told semi-illiteracy is even worse than illiteracy.
With illiterates, they believe whatever you tell them(lies n truths) but with retards(semi-illiterates) like you who think they know it all, they end up learning nowt. The lies become the truth for them and the truth is a fiction.

Grow a pair!!

~Sauron~:

Even after reading Mourinho's comment, you still think Essien is a fitter player?
I was once told semi-illiteracy is even worse than illiteracy.
With illiterates, they believe whatever you tell them(lies n truths) but with retards(semi-illiterates) like you who think they know it all, they end up learning nowt. The lies become the truth for them and the truth is a fiction.

Ritchboy has never once produced any evidence to back up all his conjecture. . .

The simple reason is, there is no evidence!

Lampard is the fittest player in the Prem. Fitter than Essien, fitter than Gerrard. Thats why he's always in the box to score goals. End of.

If he had some humility to inquire further, I would have told him that Lampard has been diagnosed with a large heart, and thats probably the reason why he has more lung power than most, coupled with his dedication to training.

Now Ritchboy is changing mouth to claim that because of strength, Essien is fitter than Lampard. If strength is now the new measure of fitness, Danny Shittu and Titus Bramble should be the fittest players in the whole Premiership! 

Ibime:

Ritchboy has never once produced any evidence to back up all his conjecture. . .

The simple reason is, there is no evidence!

Lampard is the fittest player in the Prem. Fitter than Essien, fitter than Gerrard. Thats why he's always in the box to score goals. End of.

Now Ritchboy is changing mouth to claim that because of strength, Essien is fitter than Lampard. If strength is now the new measure of fitness, Danny Shittu and Titus Bramble should be the fittest players in the whole Premiership! 

There's no point tussling with Ritchboy, abeg.
The dude should change his Black-n-White TV and watch EPL games with his eyes wide open.
He is a victim of Naija beer parlour gists. All they see is highlights and they form their useless opinions on what they see.