DeKen:
Heb 7:5 Now the law requires the descendants of Levi who become priests to collect a tenth from the people--that is, their brothers--even though their brothers are descended from Abraham.
Heb 7:6 This man, however, did not trace his descent from Levi, yet he collected a tenth from Abraham and blessed him who had the promises.
Heb 7:7 And without doubt the lesser person is blessed by the greater.
Heb 7:8 In the one case, the tenth is collected by men who die; but in the other case, by him who is declared to be living.
Heb 7:9 One might even say that Levi, who collects the tenth, paid the tenth through Abraham,
Heb 7:10 because when Melchizedek met Abraham, Levi was still in the body of his ancestor.

(Did you get that? This is saying that even under the (Old Covenant) Aaronic Priesthood, that the tithe was actually still being collected (for Melchizedek) through Abraham - because the Levites were all his descendants and were only stand-ins for Abraham!)

Heb 7:11 If perfection could have been attained through the Levitical priesthood (for on the basis of it the law was given to the people), why was there still need for another priest to come--one in the order of Melchizedek, not in the order of Aaron?
Heb 7:12 For when there is a change of the priesthood, there must also be a change of the law.
Heb 7:13 He of whom these things are said belonged to a different tribe, and no one from that tribe has ever served at the altar.
Heb 7:14 For it is clear that our Lord descended from Judah, and in regard to that tribe Moses said nothing about priests.
Heb 7:15 And what we have said is even more clear if another priest like Melchizedek appears,
Heb 7:16 one who has become a priest not on the basis of a regulation as to his ancestry but on the basis of the power of an indestructible life. ...

This is pointing out that:

The tithe pre-dates and supercedes the Mosaic Law and the Aaronic priesthood under the Melchizedek priesthood in Abraham's day.
Both the Old Covenant Law and priesthood have now changed. From the Old Covenant to the New Covenant and that the priesthood were actually only collecting the tithe for the Melchizedek priesthood all the time.

The tithe (The tenth) now goes (or continues to go) to Jesus as our High Priest after the order of Melchizedek.

Or another way to boil it down is that the Melchizedek priesthood of which the Son of God (Jesus) is our High Priest, has always existed and that all tithes collected were and are still His to receive. Jesus is the High Priest of the Heavenly Temple. The tenth, (the tithe, 10%) was paid to the High Priest by Abraham, and the tenth is still to be paid to our High Priest (Jesus) today! But, now Jesus is seated at the right hand of Father God in Heaven, yet His earthly ministry continues here on Earth.

MuttleyLaff:
You really had me in stitches with all your above jokes.

Over 95% of the book of Hebrews is talking about the supremacy of Jesus Christ
and banging on about how Jesus Christ has a superior priesthood
but all you can think of the entire book of Hebrews and zero on to, is tithe. SMH

The book of Hebrews IS NOT ABOUT tithe being pre-dating and superceding the Mosaic Law and the Aaronic priesthood under the Melchizedek priesthood in Abraham's day, but is about Jesus Christ being a different priest, who is like Melchizedek

Dont read Hebrews 7 in isolation, as you're paying too much attention to the non-issue mention of tithe in Hebrews 7:8-9

Please, in order to understand the gist of the entire book of Hebrews, go back to the book of Hebrews, and focus on Hebrews 2 - Hebrews 10

BERNIMOORE:
Answer the question, ignore what you feel is rhetotorics i am fully waiting for meaningfull discussion, first what do you understand by 'after the order of melchizedek'? only with bible quotation!

Junia:
The church doesnt have priests now (Ephesians 4:11)

Junia:
And since the early church didnt pay tithe .. then we should also not pay tithe

snowblaq:
...did the death of God also put an end to giving offrrings and doin the right things according to His will?....you know the truth..stop justifying your wrongs with old and New testaments....Your tithes belong to God....pay it

MuttleyLaff:
But you are not like that, for you are a chosen people. You are royal priests, a holy nation, God's very own possession. As a result, you can show others the goodness of God, for he called you out of the darkness into his wonderful light
- 1 Peter 2:9 NLT

The church does have priests
You are a priest, I am a priest, everyone called out, is a priest


The called out were never commanded by God to pay tithe
and anyway tithe is meant to be paid by an Israelite
and given in land of Israel explicitly for agricultural products obtained from the land of Israel

When the Israelites were in exile, they didnt pay tithe.
Tithing stopped when they were in captivity
They continued paying tithe after returning back from exile and rebuilding the temple

ilynem:

Tithing wasn't a law given by Moses. It was a thing even before Moses birth. Abraham paid tithe. Moses only modified it with the law. That modification was what was abolished with Jesus death.

olujastro:

I'm almost sure you didn't read the info on the link I gave you. Or perhaps you are mistakenly responding to someone else. Read the link again if you want to shapen your knowledge about tithing for personal development. Except you just want to win arguments on NL.

CAPTIVATOR:


God cannot die , stop speaking nonsense. Scripture says he is the King of eternity - 1 .Timothy 1:17 go study what that means

snowblaq:
.... .and the best way to correct what is obviously a typo error is to insult......tnx all the same.....i'm not surprised.

CAPTIVATOR:


No insult intended , but that statement is not just right . imagine someone text you your best friend is dead only to tell you it was a typo error . How would u feel ? God is even more than that . he is the Living God " . but nevertheless if my approach hurts you , am sorry .

Oya smile

snowblaq:
....you didnt hurt me...you could'nt..even if you tried....deeds already done.....and its past

snowblaq:
...did the death of God also put an end to giving offrrings and doin the right things according to His will?....you know the truth..stop justifying your wrongs with old and New testaments....Your tithes belong to God....pay it

CecyAdrian:


Come and collect it

snowblaq:
....its not ur business wat ur tithe is being used for....as far as u obey God first by paying it....those who use it are answerable to God....so simply do ur part by paying it....cos iv come to understand that people who talk like you are just those who do not want to pay their tithes and hence defend their act by saying the pastors are not using it well....let God be the judge.

snowblaq:
...you dont know where your God is?....please swerve.....

CecyAdrian:


You Call him my God and still say I don't know where he is, are you not confused? I just pity your kind madam, it's a pity and am sorry

CecyAdrian:


You Call him my God and still say I don't know where he is, are you not confused? I just pity your kind madam, it's a pity and am sorry

snowblaq:
...did the death of God also put an end to giving offrrings and doin the right things according to His will?....you know the truth..stop justifying your wrongs with old and New testaments....Your tithes belong to God....pay it

CecyAdrian:


Have you ever thought that God might just punish you severely for Giving your tithe to the wrongly? Go and buy a bible if you do not have. The word of God is there for you, we are not talking about offering here, but tithe. Now read up those verses in Deuteronomy about tithe and help yourself do the right thing.

CecyAdrian:


Please it's the death of Christ and not God, God can never die. I thought Christ's death freed us from all the laws of the old.

If your church do not give God burnt offering, why do they want to collect tithe. They both are laws of the old, why take away the one that does not suit them and keep the one that does. You better read your bible and pay your tithe correctly if you want to pay it, else you will be judged on the last day on it.

snowblaq:
....yh..its a pity the kind of mentality u have...and you shld really b sorry for yourself

CecyAdrian:


It seems like you forgot to take back your brain from the church entrance after church today, please go back and do so. #sheeple

snowblaq:
...and you wont be judged....please take your own advice....

snowblaq:
...and the best way to make yourself feel better is to insult ....yet you claim to be correcting someone from the scriptures......God go really get wetin to judge on the last day....its alryt tho...dont give urself high bp where u r trying to make ur self feel better....i do hope you are alright now ...hv a nice evening

CecyAdrian:


Lol, I opened this thread to discuss with intelligent and sound minded people and not feeble minds like you, don't even know why I responded to your mention in the first (well, I thought she had something intelligent to add)

Now shoo away, your presence have been acknowledged

Junia:


I read all these and i see ... law law law
Are Christians under the law or under grace ??
Tithe doesnt include money .. like Jesus will pay and teach His disciples to do likewise. Finally,someone who understands the word of God. People need to understand that CHRISTIANS ARE NOT JEWS. Which church do u attend bro?

DeKen:

Hebrews 7:5-10New International Version (NIV)

5 Now the law requires the descendants of Levi who become priests to collect a tenth from the people—that is, from their fellow Israelites—even though they also are descended from Abraham. 6 This man, however, did not trace his descent from Levi, yet he collected a tenth from Abraham and blessed him who had the promises.

snowblaq:
...did the death of God also put an end to giving offrrings and doin the right things according to His will?....you know the truth..stop justifying your wrongs with old and New testaments....Your tithes belong to God....pay it

Have you tried to find out why Tithe was paid at all? God separated the levites from their brothers (The Children of Israel) to be His Priest. This separation made them forfeit there lands and goods in Israel to a total service to God. This land Originally belong to all the Children of Israel and the levites are descendant of Levi, a direct son of Jacob who God separated with his descendants to be priest unto him. Because of this calling to serve God and forfeiture of landed properties, God now instructed their brothers and their descendants to give one 10th of all they acquired from the land, to sustain there brothers who where part owners of these lands and therefore are entitled to what is gotten from it. But they where separated by God. Compare that to today Pastors who own landed properties, Universities and all... do they have the moral standing to accept tithe going by the reason why God instituted tithe? Think, read and be wise... Give your tithe to the poor... and Men of God willingly NOT because they coerce you to do so...God bless

snowblaq:
.....as intelligent as you claim to be..you dont even know when to use the word....have..... ....

dazzlingd:


why are you so pained? if to educate more people to see the truth about tithe is your frustration, then you have just started, the truth cannot be hidden for long