alfarouq:

I am sorry for responding late, I am currently serving my fatherland in a where network access is a luxury.
Please kindly reread what I posted, I said sometimes the only way to restore law and order might require the use of force.
I will like you while you are at it to learn more about true Islamic history not those written by Muslim haters. You will find out that apart from the companions of the prophet, most of the people that have always work and serve as protectors of the Islamic faith and Muslims were not arabs, were not born Muslims but they are people that conquer Muslim lands, enslave its people but later learnt about the truth and justice of Islam and then accepted Islam and end up as its soldiers and protectors

Ubenedictus:


i hope u are aware that muhammed pbuh spent the last yrs of his life expelling all non muslim frm d arabian penisula, that is d background of surah 9. he gave muslims d right to break all treaties 4 months after hajj.

farmerforlife Sahih Muslim (1:33)
The Messenger of Allah said: "I
have been commanded to fight
against people till they testify that
there is no god but Allah, that
Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer
and pay zakat.

Ubenedictus:
According to Ibn Taymiya, a 14th Century Hanbali jurist:[14]

"Since lawful warfare is essentially jihad and since its aim is that the religion is God's entirely and God's word is uppermost, therefore
according to all Muslims, those who
stand in the way of this aim must be fought".

The position of d islamic schools contradict you. the hanabi scholar above bears witness that jihad is used to compel belief

Ubenedictus:
According to Ibn Taymiya, a 14th Century Hanbali jurist:[14]

"Since lawful warfare is essentially jihad and since its aim is that the religion is God's entirely and God's word is uppermost, therefore
according to all Muslims, those who
stand in the way of this aim must be fought".

The position of d islamic schools contradict you. the hanabi scholar above bears witness that jihad is used to compel belief

annunaki2:


To answer your question, yes Islam is intrinsicly violent. The prophet of Islam was a very violent man and during his lifetime he organised and executed over a hundred military expeditions with the purpose of forcefully converting people to islam(jihad) and also looting of caravans to raise funds to finance his military campaigns. He ordered several violent acts including the beheading of 900 Jews in one day. He was clearly an extremely violent man.

Were the problem now lies is that the quoran describes mohamed as the "best of mankind" and it enjoins all muslims to emulate him. It therefore means to be a good Muslim you must emulate mohammed who was an extremely violent character thus making islam an inherently violent religion.

johnydon22:


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Ubenedictus:
There are a lot of this scholars who differentiate between the house of islam and the house of war, the non muslim is earmarked to die or be humiliated out of his faith. before killing the non muslim they are told to either accept islam or die and yet u claim there is no compulsion.
cc farmerforlife

Farmerforlife:


He uses the term ""lawful warfare", assuming the quote is accurate. You are grasping at straws. The Quran verse is clear and unassailable. Incidentally, dar alHarb; the house of war; specifically excludes those whom the Muslim State has treaties with. Since there are international treaties between Muslim and non-Muslim nations, no non-Muslim nation falls under that purview today. In any case, all these are proposed concepts. The idea of dar al-harb or dar al-Islam does not appear either in the Quran or the hadith.

Empiree:
Hey, johndon, how are you doing man?. Long time i heard u. How's life?. How is Igboland?. I heard igbo people want to belong?

They want to force their DNA on Israelis

I hope they are not disappointed when result comes out in August

Did you summit your blood as well?. It is gonna be interesting if your DNAs match zion Jews. You know it means you all can be exported to Israel for manual labor

In that case, Nigerians can take a break from Biafrans bruahaha

We are patiently waiting till August

johnydon22:
lol this is another new thing.... never heard about the Dna thingy but i am one of those that are quite sure Igbos aint Isrealites... the ones claiming that should go and argue with their ancestors.

annunaki2:


To answer your question, yes Islam is intrinsicly violent. The prophet of Islam was a very violent man and during his lifetime he organised and executed over a hundred military expeditions with the purpose of forcefully converting people to islam(jihad) and also looting of caravans to raise funds to finance his military campaigns. He ordered several violent acts including the beheading of 900 Jews in one day. He was clearly an extremely violent man.

Were the problem now lies is that the quoran describes mohamed as the "best of mankind" and it enjoins all muslims to emulate him. It therefore means to be a good Muslim you must emulate mohammed who was an extremely violent character thus making islam an inherently violent religion.

geebril:

which prophet exactly??

Empiree:
the dude usually think from his anus. he is a waste of time

geebril:

which prophet exactly??

geebril:

which prophet exactly??

annunaki2:


Islam has only one prophet, all the other biblical characters they claim to be Islamic prophets had absolutely nothing to do with Islam. Rather mohamed just used their names and reputation to lend credence to his newly invented islamic religion.

Empiree:
Can you please tell us their religions backed with evidence from your Bible?

annunaki2:


Jewish religion which is also known as judaism. It is you al taquiya muslims that are supposed to provide evidence to back up your spurious claims that they were muslims, unfortunately for you, there is no such evidence other than al taquiya claims your fake prophet made in the useless quoran.

Empiree:
Sorry, you didn't answer my question. Try again sir

annunaki2:


I answered your question, their religion is judaism.

Empiree:
and your evidence?

annunaki2:


I guess due to the islamic indoctrination that has fried what is left of your brain you cannot comprehend that it was the jewish religion that was practised all over the old testament.

annunaki2:


Jewish religion which is also known as judaism. It is you al taquiya muslims that are supposed to provide evidence to back up your spurious claims that they were muslims, unfortunately for you, there is no such evidence other than al taquiya claims your fake prophet made in the useless quoran.

Empiree:
i gave you second chance to provide proofs from your holy Book but you keep ranting. Your case is null and void.

Now, here is evidence from our Qur'an


Say, "We have believed in Allah and in what was revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Descendants, and in what was given to Moses and Jesus and to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [submitting] to Him." Sura 3:84



The same religion has He established for you {Muhammad} as that which He enjoined on Noah—the which We have sent by inspiration to thee—and that which We enjoined on Abraham, Moses, and Jesus: Namely, that ye should remain steadfast in religion, and make no divisions therein:...

— Quran, sura 42 (Ash-Shura), ayah 13


See how clear this is. There are more evidences from Qur'an. So obviously, you can not proof from your Book as I just did. I dont want to hear "indoctrination" nonsense. If you dont have evidence just be quiet.

Ubenedictus:
let us tone down the insults nd bashing pls.

annunaki2:


What insult did I state Labelling mohammed a fake prophet is a 100% confirmed and certified statement of fact and not in anyway an insult.

annunaki2:


The problem is that you are assuming the quoran has an iota off credibility instead of owning up to the ffact that it was concocted by a seventh century barbarian under demonic influence. As I said earlier the lies spewed by mohammed in the quoran about biblical prophets were just fabricated to give credibility to his newly invented religion.

annunaki2:


It is you muslims that are supposed to provide evidence to back up your spurious claims that they were muslims,

Empiree:
[s][/s]Talk is cheap. You said they were all adherents of Judaism but refused to prove it. How is it difficult to understand my point?. If you have no evidence, STOP talking


You Said:




So i provided my evidence. Kindly provide your evidence that all biblical prophets were adherents of Judaism ?

Ubenedictus:
let us respect peoples belief. Start with a premise before d conclusion.

annunaki2:


Unfortunately the source of your evidence has zero credibility and we all know that the jewish people practised judaism based on the old testament thousands of years before Islam was invented by that seventh century criminal. The fact that mohamed made an al taquiya claim in the quoran is no evidence neither does it make sense. It's clear from even your useless quoran and hadiths that the Jews practised a separate religion from that which mohamed invented and mohammed hated the Jews because they refused to accept him as a prophet.