Are you trying to get someone, even a believer in Christ, to stop sinning and live right? Is that person you? No amount of vows made to stop sinning, recital of punishments that are attached to breaking the Ten Commandments or threatening, nagging, hellfire and demon attack stories from the pulpit etc can transform a person. Only Jesus can. Without Him, we can do nothing.

The bible says that the strength of sin is the law (1 Cor 15:56). Law-keeping makes people become slaves to sin.
Telling people that they have to (by their own efforts) obey the law in order to be righteous will only produce more sin and cut them off from Christ.

What trying to keep the Ten Commandments in order to be righteous does is arouse sinful passions in us and cause us to sin more, according to Romans 7:5 –

“When we were controlled by our old nature, sinful desires were at work within us, and the law aroused these evil desires that produced a harvest of sinful deeds, resulting in death.”

The old nature here refers to the sin nature that we inherited from Adam, before we became a new creation in Christ. Those who boast in their ability to keep the law end up sinning more. This is why Peter denied Jesus three times after he boasted that he would not.
Trying to get right with God by keeping the law makes Christ of no effect in the lives of believers according to Galatians 5:4.

"For if you are trying to make yourselves right with God by keeping the law, you have been cut off from Christ! You have fallen away from God’s grace."

So how can one live right? How can one be transformed? 2 Corinthians 3:18 tells us how - " But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord."

Believers, we are transformed by beholding Jesus, not by our obedience to the law! In Christ, the law gets fulfilled in us, but not by us.

But how do we behold our Lord's glory? Let’s keep John 1:17 in mind for this - “For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.”
The “Law” and “Grace and Truth” are entirely separate. They cannot be mixed. One was given by a servant (Moses). The other came through the Son of God (our Saviour Jesus) – John 1:17.

One (the letter) kills while the other (the Spirit) gives life - 2 Corinthians 3:6.
One (the law) demands righteousness from sinful and morally bankrupt man who has none ("there is none righteous, no, not one" - Romans 3:10) while under the other (Grace) God's righteousness is given to us in Christ as a free gift - Romans 5:17- "For if by the one man’s offense death reigned through the one, much more those who receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.)"
So how do we behold the glory of the Lord?

In Exodus 34, when Moses came down from Mount Sinai with the Ten Commandments written and engraved on stones (Paul calls this the ministry of death), the children of Israel could not look steadily at (behold) Moses face because of the glory of his countenance, which was from the law. He had to wear a veil after reading the law to them because the law condemned them all, as it condemns all those without God's gift of righteousness today. In verse 14-15 of 2 Corinthians 3, Paul says of those under the law:

"But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ. But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart."

Reading/preaching of the law, which was given through Moses is akin to beholding the glory of Moses’ countenance, which was from the law. No one can live by its standards, which is why the children of Israel could not look at Moses.

“For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.”

The law pointed out their shortcomings, as it does today to all who depend on it for their righteousness. It cannot save.
Preaching it cannot make one live right. It only brings condemnation and judgement. Reading/preaching the law ensures that the veil remains on the hearts of believers. Believers remain blind. More laws arouse sinful desires in us and result in a harvest of sin which leads to death according to Romans 7:5 - "When we were controlled by our old nature, sinful desires were at work within us, and the law aroused these evil desires that produced a harvest of sinful deeds, resulting in death."

Beholding the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ is reading/preaching and listening to the word of Christ - messages that reveal “Grace and Truth,” - God’s undeserved, unmerited favour, which came through Jesus. It is seeing His beauty and love for us in both the Old and New Testaments.

By His grace, when we look into the mirror of our lives, we see in ourselves not our flaws and shortcomings but what God has made us to be in Christ – His Righteousness (2 Corinthians 5:21 “for He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of god in Him.” ) The same principle applied with Abraham who was childless. Isaac came after He began to refer to himself as Abraham, not before. When we confess our righteousness in Christ, we will bear fruit (live right)

When the heart is transformed by the Spirit, people won't need anyone to give them rules and regulations before they live right. People won't need to be told to dress, talk and act in a manner that glorifies God before they do so. It will be their passion! They will not want to sin. They will comply with the Ten Commandments without even trying to obey it. They will love to talk about our wonderful Saviour Jesus.

They will give more, pray more, do more, love more yet not them but Christ in them, so they might not even notice that they have changed inwardly and outwardly...but others will. The transformation by the Holy Spirit leads to right living but many in the church have it backwards and tell believers that they need to stop sinning in order to be transformed! Nobody gets transformed this way. It's an endless cycle of sin, condemnation and judgment of the law

In Christ, the law is fulfilled in us (but not by us) so we can approach our Lord boldly and look upon Him without a veil on our hearts. He gave us His righteousness as a gift. He does not judge or condemn us, like the law does. His Spirit gives us life. Meditating on these things is how to behold the glory of the Lord!

We love because He first loved us. The more the love of Christ is unveiled from the pulpit, the more His people will love Him and others, and also not want to sin. When His love, reflected in the abundance of His grace and His gift of righteousness, is the core message of preaching, as it was with Paul, believers will reign in life – reign over sin, selfishness, bad temper, sickness, poverty, etc. When the message being preached from the pulpit focuses on His words to the woman caught in adultery “Neither do I condemn you,” the people will go and sin no more! This is pure undeserved, unmerited favour, people! His gift of no condemnation makes us go and sin no more.

When believers are taught that that the way to get right with God or “maintain their salvation” is obeying the law (which no one can do fully, plus if you slip up in one, you’re guilty of all – James 2:10), it leads to more sins and death. If your pastor tells you “yes, Jesus died for you BUT you still need to keep the Ten Commandments or give to get from God,” and you obey this form of doctrine, you tie yourself up to the yoke of bondage (the law) again. And the letter kills. Remember Galatians 5:1 and –

"So Christ has truly set us free. Now make sure that you stay free, and don’t get tied up again in slavery to the law."

4 "For if you are trying to make yourselves right with God by keeping the law, you have been cut off from Christ! You have fallen away from God’s grace.”

When the law (obeying the Ten Commandments/”do good, get good; do bad, get bad” doctrine) is read/preached to the people, people are being taught to “behold the glory of Moses’ countenance” which is of the law; and no one can. This is why many people, especially young people don't like going to church. Like the Israelites that ran away from Moses when he came down from Mount Sinai with the Law, they run away, because the law condemns us all.

By beholding the glory of the Lord - looking at Jesus and receiving His gift of righteousness and no condemnation - we are being transformed to the same image, from glory to glory by the Holy Spirit. We don’t get transformed by keeping the Ten Commandments or “not sinning.”

When you mix law and grace (preaching/professing Jesus yet rejecting His gift of righteousness by teaching that people still need to obey the law in order to get right with God) you are pouring old wine into new wineskin. You will lose both the wine and the wine skin.

Pastors and leaders, it is the Holy Spirit that does the transformation, not the preaching of threats from the pulpit or telling people to make vows and determine to quit sinning! This is the preaching of the letter, which kills. If we could stop sinning and do right all by ourselves, Jesus would not need to come and save us. Just look at what happened to Peter when he boasted in what he could do. He denied Jesus three times! Thank God for our Lord’s restoration.

Unveil the love of Christ and the people will love Him and love others. Preach our Lord’s grace and let grace do the teaching; we are trained in the way of righteousness by Grace, not the law, or you according to Titus 2: 11-14 -

11 “For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, 12 teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age, 13 looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Saviour Jesus Christ, 14 who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for Himself His own special people, zealous for good works.”

Grace is our teacher. Sarah (Grace) was more than capable of raising Isaac. You don’t need Hagar (the law) to help! We are not children of the bondwoman but of the free! (Galatians 4:21-31)

By His grace, preach His unconditional love, His gift of righteousness and His gift of no condemnation to all. Preach His undeserved, unmerited favour. Grace will do the transformation.

Believe Right and you will Live Right.

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Long Epistle.

Do many interpretation. Christianity is too liberal. Just buy a bible from a bookshop, claim to be called by some god, interpret the bible to suite the popular craving or yearning of the people, perform some magic, trick or hypnotize them, you are now an MOG.
Religion is a snare. Even the one claimed by PaulGrundy to be true.
Scam everywhere.

milkymesh:
Long Epistle.

Do many interpretation. Christianity is too liberal. Just buy a bible from a bookshop, claim to be called by some god, interpret the bible to suite the popular craving or yearning of the people, perform some magic, trick or hypnotize them, you are now an MOG.
Religion is a snare. Even the one claimed by PaulGrundy to be true.
Scam everywhere.

James 1:27ESV

Religion that is pure and undefiled before God the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world.

Yeah that's my true religion

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don't understand

Op na was for you oooo... This one pass d preaching Wey ibeyeomie preach today yet he get money pass you

False teaching. Ten commandments is our guide not grace. Mods please take this topic of the frontpage. It is completely false

We cannot fight sin on our own, w need God's grace

Visit orphans and widow with gift and money, take the photo and upload on social media or news media and let the praises and commendation start coming.
Don't you worship in a church or temple, or do you forsake the gathering or meeting together as recommended in the book of Hebrew.
How many of the books in the bible do you believe in? 66 or more.
Who selected them and confirmed their authenticity?
For Muslim or atheist reading this. Don't rejoice because you are all misguided fellows.
There is God.
None may truly know what HE wants.

paulGrundy:


James 1:27ESV

Religion that is pure and undefiled before God the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world.

Yeah that's my true religion

@OP

Shall we continue to sin that Grace may abound?God forbid.

Christians continue making the same mistakes of thinking they got no responsibility to God, while expecting God to fullfil his responsibility to us.

We must make up our mind to obey his laws that Grace may abound in our lives.

Grace is actually more than written letters. Its more than a physical force. Its not a still small voice. Its what SAVED us and what sustains us. Actually, if you are not saved, grace becomes a mystery to you. No amount of explanation can make it clear to you.

You took out time,sat down and wrote this misleading article and some how you feel accomplished now?

I won't even waste my time going into the scriptures with you cause it's obvious that you are so ignorant and you ideas are from the pit of hell.

Why did the MOST HIGH curse isreal (not the karzas in Israel today)
What did the son of the MOST HIGH say when he walked among the people ....did he say that the law was done away with?

The biggest lie of Christianity today and also your doctrine is that people are deceived to believe that as long as they keep confessing their sins they would be forgiven thereby committing sin more and more.

Good

The law is our school master that leads us to Christ........Read Galatians very well

Nice one.

For anyone who cares to know...
Jesus died so that we will not abide by the law of the old testament and it wont count as sin to us. Yet this same grace teaches us to say no to ungodliness (Titus 2:11). The gospel is very simple!
I laugh when i see people set standards for God's judgement. God's standard for judgement is Receiving or Not Receiving Christ and NOT based on the law!.

Matthew 5:17
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

TPAND:
False teaching. Ten commandments is our guide not grace. Mods please take this topic of the frontpage. It is completely false

Hope you know they are infinite ways to sin? Even sins not mentioned in the holy Bible like watching porn over the Internet?

10 commandment cannot cover that.

Many people talk about grace but only a few understand what it is. There would be no need for grace if the law was non existent, because everything would become permissible thus no platform or benchmark for which grace Will operate. For example, when I was in secondary school, on a particular Sunday I and a group of other students were late for church and we were held outside by the prefect. While addressing us, he suddenly called out to one of us and asked him why he was late, that he knows the boy is usually one of the first persons to go for activities and asked him to enter the church while the rest of us were punished. There's this saying in pidgin “person dey big pass something " which means there are things expected of someone, Grace thus is knowing what the law is and living in a way as though it doesn't exist. To condemn the law is to condemn grace for without the law there will be no need for grace. So op, stop trying to speak about things u don't understand just because u wanna write an article.

ezechinwa2:


Hope you know they are infinite ways to sin? Even sins not mentioned in the holy Bible like watching porn over the Internet?

10 commandment cannot cover that.

I watch porn, anime porn. I lust over this, is that a sin?

See how these people re stylishly working to abrogate the commandments to pave way for unbridled sin.
Even Jesus himself said, 'obey the commandment'.
sometimes I wonder what's left of Christianity apart from church buildings.
we now allow homosexuals as if it's part of the religion.
the religion protect priest who sexually abuse children.
Adultery has Neva been this high and tolerated.
now u want to abrogate the commandments.
nawao

Because u are living in a grace, continue swimming. in a sin and believe God will not ask u to account for all your deeds. Jesus will denied u on that day. then u will no essence of creating us is to serve God wholeheartedly not by dancing, singing and speaking in tongue. STOP DECEIVING YOURSELF, WE ARE ALL GO TO ACCOUNT OUR DEED AND MISDEED. SEEK FOR FORGIVENESS BEFORE ITS TOO LATE.

ezechinwa2:


Hope you know they are infinite ways to sin? Even sins not mentioned in the holy Bible like watching porn over the Internet?

10 commandment cannot cover that.

the 2 commandment Jesus gave covered everything..... Love for God and love for ur neighbour.... If u love God, u won't do bad thing and obey his every instruction. If u love ur neighbour u won't do injurious thing to them

milkymesh:
Visit orphans and widow with gift and money, take the photo and upload on social media or news media and let the praises and commendation start coming.

Which one do you have a problem with? Doing charity to the widows & Orphans? Or doing Charity to get the praises of men?

Don't you worship in a church or temple, or do you forsake the gathering or meeting together as recommended in the book of Hebrew.
How many of the books in the bible do you believe in? 66 or more.
Who selected them and confirmed their authenticity?
For Muslim or atheist reading this. Don't rejoice because you are all misguided fellows.
There is God.
None may truly know what HE wants.

What you Folks fail to see, is that God never choose any denomination or church and put a patent on it. Some wolves in sheep clothings are the ones creating this Us versus them illusion. In order to exploit you for materially gain.

James 1:27 is Very clear;
• Do they believe in Jesus' death and ressurection?
•Do they do Charity?
•Do they teach/practise rightoeusness/ holiness/bible based Morality?

Its a true Religion whether be it Catholic, JW, pentecostal e.t.c.

My problem with JW is that they don't Do charity. That's why they having problems in countries like UK (UK charity commission) where its mandatory for religions to do Charity.

Grace it's for Christians and The Ten Commandments for all Atheists and Theists.

Op I fully agree with the message, it's for everyone, but not everyone will get it. More grace!

TPAND:
False teaching. Ten commandments is our guide not grace. Mods please take this topic of the frontpage. It is completely false

if God should judge us by the 10 commandment﹑ none of us will be save﹑ God will judge all sin we commited. But justification by faith mean someon has FULFILLED the law for us, thus we are save by Grace. Justification is an act which declear a sinner righteous. By his grace, we are discharge criminal, christ is our judciary satan is the accuser we are the victim. Christ has fulfilled the law for us.

malvisguy212:
if God should judge us by the 10 commandment﹑ none of us will be save﹑ God will judge all sin we commited. But justification by faith mean someon has FULFILLED the law for us, thus we are save by Grace. Justification is an act which declear a sinner righteous. By his grace, we are discharge criminal, christ is our judciary satan is the accuser we are the victim. Christ has fulfilled the law for us.

Fulfill the law in Mathew 5 vs 17 means that he has come to uphold the law (to make sure that the law is fulfilled and carried out)
In other words......to make sure the laws are done and upheld

TPAND:
False teaching. Ten commandments is our guide not grace. Mods please take this topic of the frontpage. It is completely false

You're right the ''Ten commandments'' is our guide,
as a matter of fact the ''Ten commandments'' was a guardian guarding and looking after men until Christ came (i.e. Galatians 3:24 below)

Let me put it another way.
The law was our guardian until Christ came;
it protected us until we could be made right with God through faith.
- Galatians 3:24


¹¹For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people.
¹²It teaches us to say "No" to ungodliness and worldly passions,
and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age
- Titus 2:11-12 KJV

How do birds fly effortlessly, isnt it by grace?
How do dolphins swim beautiifully, isnt it by grace?

Grace is instruction
Grace has detailed information about how something should be done
and that exactly, is what Titus 2:11-12 is saying about grace
Grace is a guide, grace is a teacher,
It is with and/or by the grace of God, that you'll know how and what to do etcetera

Sidoka:


Fulfill the law in Mathew 5 vs 17 means that he has come to uphold the law (to make sure that the law is fulfilled and carried out)
In other words......to make sure the laws are done and upheld

did you know the meaning of jesus fulfiling the law ? What is the punishment for adultery ? Stoning to death, right ? Okay, the adultress woman, why did jesus not allow the teachers of the law to stone her to death ? does it mean that jesus break the law ? No, He fulfilled the law for the woman, thus, she is save by Grace.