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Re: FG To Include Religion, Ethnicity In 2018 Census by Kingkamba(m): 8:11am On Feb 17, 2017
I know for sure the that this is a bad news for buhari and his zombies.
Re: FG To Include Religion, Ethnicity In 2018 Census by Nobody: 8:17am On Feb 17, 2017
Many of us supporting this move are simply short sighted.
With a Buhari and APC govt in power, does anyone really expect a honest census?
Northerners have always held the bragging rights for population and religion, albeit by dubious means, do you honestly think they would let go just like that?
It would shock us that war ravaged Borno would have a higher population than any South Eastern state.
Those of us who know wosup with the last census can testify that approximate values were used for women in purdah who by religion were not permitted to be counted, you simply document whatever figure they tell you.
Let's not be deceived, the level of rigging in this census would be monumental, just in time for the 2019 election. giving an undue advantage to the north.

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Re: FG To Include Religion, Ethnicity In 2018 Census by bigsmoke2(m): 8:18am On Feb 17, 2017
Its a stupid thing to do if we are sincere in our intent of blunting religious and ethnic division
Re: FG To Include Religion, Ethnicity In 2018 Census by Nobody: 8:26am On Feb 17, 2017
kabrud:


Pls what have ur people contributed?
Note; don't mention oil cos u don't cultivate it. It is a natural deposit belonging to Nigeria, not any man's handwork.
By the time u mention what u have contributed, we can talk about the parasites and hosts, but if u can't then stfu.
really I don't blame u, I only blame lugard. If not ur life will be like that of Niger and Senegalese citizen where poverty has stricken them. You said natural resources bah but have considered the devastating effect drilling causes to our land. We can't farm but yet government only extract it to feed the north and allow us the Niger delta to wallow in poverty. Develop our place like Abuja, the government refuse, Don't worry we will frustrate buhari out of office if at all he has not died from our disturbance .The pipe will explode daily, south east youth will demonstrate as often as possible till that frustrated mallam called buhari bows out. We must be in control of our land and destiny.

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Re: FG To Include Religion, Ethnicity In 2018 Census by Lightening: 8:31am On Feb 17, 2017
greatgod2012:
Is this necessary



There is already religious and tribal war on ground and now the FG want to pour more fuel on the war

By their comments we shall know them. Enemies of truth and progress.
Re: FG To Include Religion, Ethnicity In 2018 Census by drnoel: 8:32am On Feb 17, 2017
sarrki:



That's true

It will settle a lot of internal wrangling among Nigerians

U thunk so. When they also count goats and cows. What religion do u think they will make them?
Re: FG To Include Religion, Ethnicity In 2018 Census by kabrud: 8:36am On Feb 17, 2017
vingeophysicist:
[s]really I don't blame u, I only blame lugard. If not ur life will be like that of Niger and Senegalese citizen where poverty has stricken them. You said natural resources bah but have considered the devastating effect drilling causes to our land. We can't farm but yet government only extract it to feed the north and allow us the Niger delta to wallow in poverty. Develop our place like Abuja, the government refuse, Don't worry we will frustrate buhari out of office if at all he has not died from our disturbance .The pipe will explode daily, south east youth will demonstrate as often as possible till that frustrated mallam called buhari bows out. We must be in control of our land and destiny[/s].

In the whole of this rubbish, I have not seen where u mentioned ur contribution.
Effects of oil exploration?
NDDC
Min of ND
Derivation fund
Amnesty programme etc
All these are for the development of the north, right?
And the good thing is that all these intervention programmes are headed by ur ndeltans. So?
Continue bombing the pipelines, but stop complaining about the state of the economy.
May be those bombings will stop Buhari's family from taking their breakfast/lunch/dinner etc.

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Re: FG To Include Religion, Ethnicity In 2018 Census by Nobody: 8:48am On Feb 17, 2017
kabrud:


In the whole of this rubbish, I have not seen where u mentioned ur contribution.
Effects of oil exploration?
NDDC
Min of ND
Derivation fund
Amnesty programme etc
All these are for the development of the north, right?
And the good thing is that all these intervention programmes are headed by ur ndeltans. So?
Continue bombing the pipelines, but stop complaining about the state of the economy.
May be those bombings will Buhari's family from taking their breakfast/lunch/dinner etc.
but at least is affecting his health.i don't have ur time.

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Re: FG To Include Religion, Ethnicity In 2018 Census by truthstands11: 8:50am On Feb 17, 2017
It is totally unnecessary. This govt likes divide. If more than 2million votes were secured in Kano 2015 presidential election and the REC burnt to death with his family and no outcome of the investigation till today, how are we sure that goats and rams and cows will not be counted as Muslims. This govt doesn't have anything to offer only dividing Nigeria. State of origin is just enough. That will help keep it clean.
Re: FG To Include Religion, Ethnicity In 2018 Census by do4luv14(m): 9:03am On Feb 17, 2017
I don't know when dis govt will learn, religion and ethnicity count?, dats the explosion dat is waiting to happen , in naija of today!! Its nt needed, simple
Re: FG To Include Religion, Ethnicity In 2018 Census by middlebelter(m): 9:11am On Feb 17, 2017
kropotkin2:
Including religion and ethnicity in the count that ordinarily should be there, is a very dangerous idea in the reality of today's Nigerian context. It would would most certainly lead to the gross falsification of numbers to the disadvantage of minority groups
I disagree with you. We are in a technology age. Every body knows how important the exercise is so all tribes in this country have got to take it very seriously. Indeed international monitors should be invited because it is really very sensitive. Let us confront our fair once.
Re: FG To Include Religion, Ethnicity In 2018 Census by middlebelter(m): 9:20am On Feb 17, 2017
The census should include biometric data capturing, BVN number for those that have bank account, HAUSA SHOULD BE SEPARATED FROM FULANIS, let's us know the population of Hausa and the population of Fulanis, they may be all Muslim, that's is OK.

If possible let all the people without national ID indicate if in the census and be captured. A thorough census will The help us immensely to eliminate many atrocities in this society, it will help in effective planning and if backed with biometric data capture, will minimise terrorism, kidnapping, robbery etc. Please lets add our voice to encourage NPC to capture as much information as possible.
Re: FG To Include Religion, Ethnicity In 2018 Census by ItsMeAboki(m): 9:24am On Feb 17, 2017
EmoBoy:
Not important.

In fact quite divisive; it would encourage more divisions between Nigerians along the lines of tribe and religion as ppl are being made more aware of their differences than what they have in common.
Re: FG To Include Religion, Ethnicity In 2018 Census by mandarin: 9:26am On Feb 17, 2017
I support the deployment of high level technology with biometric and photos of all individuals registered.
I feel local government and state of origin and place of residence should be included.
Nothing is wrong in including religion and ethnicity but if they are too sensitive issues they can be left out. However, housing and settlement patterns, levels of education, disability, marital status, profession should be there.
The system of storage should be sky based and automatic followed by issuance of registration ID.
If we do these sincerely believe me, the world will be shocked that our population will be around 140-150million while the local government of origin will be enough to tell all major stories.
Re: FG To Include Religion, Ethnicity In 2018 Census by akigbemaru: 9:32am On Feb 17, 2017
Census
Re: FG To Include Religion, Ethnicity In 2018 Census by eodavids(m): 9:32am On Feb 17, 2017
PLEASE, SEUN, LALASTICLALA, BACANISTA, ETC:
YOU ALL SHOULD TELL THE POWERS THAT BE THAT SUCH MOVE IS EXESSIVELY DANGEROUS AND WILL HIGHTEN THE TENSIONS WE ALREADY HAVE INNIGERIA.

usually, the resultant outcome of a Census is used for important national decisions. Now I ask, what important decision is going to be with the number of Christians/Moslems/Traditionalists/ Free thinkers...?

This will further arouse anger and hatred within all the states of the Federation of Nigeria.

For instance, instead of counting the people in every state, specifying their language, gender, state of settlement, and also state of origins; they now want the religion which will seek to determine which religion has highest followers.
Does it mean Nigeria wishes to make national decisions based on the most popular religion?

I wish the answer is no, because the Nigerian 1999 constitution as amended 2011...says no to such.

Take for instance, if Kaduna, Enugu, Benue, Taraba States among other, should be counted along religious lines, you will see the people of these states reminiscent the fact that a huge number of their population was decimated months back and that particularly down-sized them. Subsequently, if a person from one religion kills another from the opposite faith, you will discover impatience thriving as people will always say "they are reducing our population" and revenge will follow, leading to a more caos. People may be counted along religious lines in other countries but Nigerians and the kind of mentality they have are note ripe for that.

Please, the book "THE WHIPPING BOY" is instructive here, as it contains in its Chapter Eight "us versus them" should be discouraged in Nigeria.
You can get a copy and see the dialogue yourselves

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Re: FG To Include Religion, Ethnicity In 2018 Census by truthstands11: 9:39am On Feb 17, 2017
middlebelter:

I disagree with you. We are in a technology age. Every body knows how important the exercise is so all tribes in this country have got to take it very seriously. Indeed international monitors should be invited because it is really very sensitive. Let us confront our fair once.

Was international observers not there in 2015 when cows and goats voted in kano in 2015 with over 2million votes? The Kano REC and family were burnt to death, any investigation till today? Let's not deceive ourselves. This country has been so divided since this administration came to power. Take a look at all the critical positions in this country now, its being held by north. President, Senate President, Speaker etc. Are we not divided? Which technological age? Even your card readers, did they work. How many villages in Nigeria has strong internet access to do technological capture during census. We love deceiving ourselves in this country. Everyone knows that goats and cows will be counted in the north in 2018 as Muslims to prove that Muslims are greater in number than Christians in Nigeria. But one thing is sure, our God is the greatest. No one can challenge Him or walk against His children in this country. Take a look at Israel despite being surrounded by enemies, no one has ever been able to touch them. That will show you that the God of Israel is great.
Re: FG To Include Religion, Ethnicity In 2018 Census by Gentlebabs(m): 9:41am On Feb 17, 2017
Dear Nairalanders, This Census will reveal a lot. Check our this Youtube Video where I went to represent all Nairalanders on TVC on the 1st of this month.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9N0z75_86g

I shall be going there again, what would you like me to tell them, pass on.

Feel free to comment on the video.

I am,

Yours truly,

Nairalander.
Re: FG To Include Religion, Ethnicity In 2018 Census by ephi123(f): 9:50am On Feb 17, 2017
RockHard:
This is a welcome development that will settle a lot of questions. Hopefully they won't politicize and bungle this one as well with fabricated/cooked-up figures in the end.

This really is the key issue.
Re: FG To Include Religion, Ethnicity In 2018 Census by felixomor: 9:51am On Feb 17, 2017
Gentlebabs:
Dear Nairalanders, This Census will reveal a lot. Check our this Youtube Video where I went to represent all Nairalanders on TVC on the 1st of this month.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9N0z75_86g

I shall be going there again, what would you like me to tell them, pass on.

Feel free to comment on the video.

I am,

Yours truly,

Nairalander.

Thanks

In my opinion, Government should also incorporate fingerprints, data and facial capture into this census.

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Re: FG To Include Religion, Ethnicity In 2018 Census by Godlychild: 10:02am On Feb 17, 2017
kropotkin2:
Including religion and ethnicity in the count that ordinarily should be there, is a very dangerous idea in the reality of today's Nigerian context. It would would most certainly lead to the gross falsification of numbers to the disadvantage of minority groups
Thanks. You spoke my mind. In Nigeria wher everything is manipulated for selfish reasons ..
Re: FG To Include Religion, Ethnicity In 2018 Census by ogene007: 10:02am On Feb 17, 2017
basilo102:
Festus Odimegwu was sacked because of this, this new guy should be careful, I prefer state of origin than ethnicity and religion. Since state of origin is constitutional in nigeria it should be captured on the census and Federal allocation should be based on it
Why are you afraid of the inclusion of ethnicity and religion in the next census? Must we continue to live the age long lies that have been told since independence of this country? The lies are long overdue. Ethnicity and religion are a must for any form of credibility in the next census.
Re: FG To Include Religion, Ethnicity In 2018 Census by asha80(m): 10:07am On Feb 17, 2017
monex:


exactly. at a time when we need a sense of nationalism more than ever, Govt plans to do an religion/ethnicity census.

The question will be what the information will be used for and then the falsification will begin.

As a last resort approach, I even pray that future generations are only able to speak english and can only trace their roots to their state of birth/location rather than parents origin in order to solve this tribalism in Nigeria.
nationalism isn't forced but nutured...your last sentence is wishful thinking as it will not happen in the next 100 yrs

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Re: FG To Include Religion, Ethnicity In 2018 Census by kabrud: 10:07am On Feb 17, 2017
vingeophysicist:
but at least is affecting his health.i don't have ur time.

Re: FG To Include Religion, Ethnicity In 2018 Census by WhiteNoise(m): 10:12am On Feb 17, 2017
"One Nigeria" init
Re: FG To Include Religion, Ethnicity In 2018 Census by DozieInc(m): 10:22am On Feb 17, 2017
Hope those "Libyans " won't be counted.
Re: FG To Include Religion, Ethnicity In 2018 Census by nkemjacob2(m): 10:36am On Feb 17, 2017
una wan find where chop money again
Re: FG To Include Religion, Ethnicity In 2018 Census by Nowenuse: 11:53am On Feb 17, 2017
middlebelter:
The census should include biometric data capturing, BVN number for those that have bank account, HAUSA SHOULD BE SEPARATED FROM FULANIS, let's us know the population of Hausa and the population of Fulanis, they may be all Muslim, that's is OK.

If possible let all the people without national ID indicate if in the census and be captured. A thorough census will The help us immensely to eliminate many atrocities in this society, it will help in effective planning and if backed with biometric data capture, will minimise terrorism, kidnapping, robbery etc. Please lets add our voice to encourage NPC to capture as much information as possible.

I am from the middlebelt too. If u think u can seperate Hausas from fulanis in places like Kano, Zaria, Katsina and Kaduna, then u are mistaking.
A lot of them will tell u that they are Hausa-fulanis because that's what their parents told them.
What about a lot of Bauchi people who have abandoned their native languages and now speak only Hausa? They too will also claim to be Hausas.
Re: FG To Include Religion, Ethnicity In 2018 Census by Nowenuse: 12:01pm On Feb 17, 2017
asha80:
nationalism isn't forced but nutured...your last sentence is wishful thinking as it will not happen in the next 100 yrs

Nationalism indeed can be forced. Go and learn how it was done in Tanzania.
Tanzania has succeeded in Swahili-nizing all it's people and most of them have abandoned their tribal and native languages and become native swahili speakers.
Tribal languages are banned in Tanzania. They cannot be used or broadcasted publicly and thr Tanzanian govt made sure to deploy people to work away from their own hometowns in order to force them to live with each other, speaking only Swahili which is the official language.
Re: FG To Include Religion, Ethnicity In 2018 Census by Nsonso: 12:24pm On Feb 17, 2017
Still to no avail. Hw is that going to stop a massive influx of almajiris from Niger, chad and benin rep thru the countless illegal, unidentified and unmanned borders to boast the population of the north. These ppl hv other Nigerians by the balls. They can do everything, I mean everything, to maintain the status quo. So, hw is the govt going to put a check on this? What measures would be taken to avoid the glaring falsification that would occur as a result of this must-happen uncontrolled immigration?
Re: FG To Include Religion, Ethnicity In 2018 Census by Ngokafor(f): 12:26pm On Feb 17, 2017
Nowenuse:


Nationalism indeed can be forced. Go and learn how it was done in Tanzania.
Tanzania has succeeded in Swahili-nizing all it's people and most of them have abandoned their tribal and native languages and become native swahili speakers.
Tribal languages are banned in Tanzania. They cannot be used or broadcasted publicly and thr Tanzanian govt made sure to deploy people to work away from their own hometowns in order to force them to live with each other, speaking only Swahili which is the official language.



...And you think this will work in Nigeria??...You think Nationalism can be forced in Nigeria??..Anyway i can see how the NYSC has fostered 'love and unity' amongst Nigerians undecided,so i which you guys luck in your endeavours to force 'nationalism' on Nigerians undecided
Re: FG To Include Religion, Ethnicity In 2018 Census by nwabobo: 12:51pm On Feb 17, 2017
LoveMachine:
The results are gonna be so interesting. This will end so many debates. Can't wait.

Anybody who believes Buhari will conduct a credible census needs to have his head checked.

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