Similarly in the case of genotype. A marriage between couples with both A.S genes. The marriage is discourage but Halal.

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It's something I am studying not reading. Cousins marriage is Halal, first or Hundred. several individuals have different genetic constituent. That genetic disorder in question is very negligible. The marriage should only be avoided in the case where a trusted physician have certified that the offspring(s) of a particular couples will potentially posses a rare genetic disorder . But this cannot be generalized for all humans (Muslim).

Does the Quran or Hadiths talked about "doing test", did early Muslims believed in genetic test, did they reason to that level?

Is this not better to avoid than going into something that will cause abnormal genes or autosomal?

tintingz:
Does the Quran or Hadiths talked about "doing test", did early Muslims believed in genetic test, did they reason to that level?

Is this not better to avoid than going into something that will cause abnormal genes or autosomal?

Now I understand where you're going. The Quran says Fas'alu Ahlal zikri inkumtum Lata'alamun. Ask doctors when it comes to their field. Ask engineer when it comes to engineering.


The Qur'an is not a book of science that will go in details explaining genes for you. Quran is rather a book of signs

Now tell me how do you know about this genes that will cause genetic disorder since Quran and earlier Muslim no not about this and they go with their cousinz marriage?

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Similarly in the case of genotype. A marriage between couples with both A.S genes. The marriage is discourage but Halal.

Cousin marriage(incest) is a commandment in the scriptures, don't compare that to genotype.

tintingz:
Cousin marriage(incest) is a commandment in the scriptures, don't compare that to genotype.

Oh I would like to see that commandment that says don't marry your cousins.

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Oh I would like to see that commandment that says don't marry your cousins.

You didn't get him right there.

Rilwayne001:

You didn't get him right there.

Add details to it.

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Now I understand where you're going. The Quran says Fas'alu Ahlal zikri inkumtum Lata'alamun. Ask doctors when it comes to their field. Ask engineer when it comes to engineering.

Can you hear yourself?

Cousin marriage is a divine commandment, the person or supernatural being that made it into commandment didn't know it will cause some genetic problems?

I'm not understanding

Now tell me how do you know about this genes that will cause genetic disorder since Quran and earlier Muslim no not about this and they go with their cousinz marriage?

Science.

If two cousins have intimate love for each other that's their choice, their problem but having kids, that's where the problem will start.

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Add details to it.

Read his post again now.

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Oh I would like to see that commandment that says don't marry your cousins.

Read my post well I didn't say it is not in commandment.

You're comparing genotype to incest, the latter is not in any commandment while the former is divine commandment someone shouldn't dislike talk less of hate.

tintingz:
Can you hear yourself?

Cousin marriage is a divine commandment, the person or supernatural being that made it into commandment didn't know it will cause some genetic problems?

I'm not understanding

You will never understand when choose not to understand.

A marriage between a woman with S.S genotype and a man with S.S genotype will result to offsprings with sickler. And the supernatural that created Human knows this. Y don't HE send a divine revelation on that?


HE says Fas'alu Ahlal Zikri inkumtum Lata'alamun


Qur'an is not a book of science that explain in details rather its a book of signs

Science.

If two cousins have intimate love for each other that's their choice, their problem but having kids, that's where the problem will start.

Nothing like problem here. If they are certified by a doctor to have kids they should. In fact only few minorities have such genetic disorder.

tintingz:
Read my post well I didn't say it is not in commandment.

You're comparing genotype to incest, the latter is not in any commandment while the former is divine commandment someone shouldn't dislike talk less of hate.

Not at all. You're comparing genetic disorder also with what is halal in Qur'an.

You're comparing genetic disease with cousins marriage. right?


1. is science and the other is divinity.

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Nothing like problem here. If they are certified by a doctor to have kids they should. In fact only few minorities have such genetic disorder.

But you know the odd is high compared to the normal one.

And btw, it is recommended and not mandatory, and so i don't really see this as an issue. The thread is uncalled for in the first place, and i see no reason why the OP should condemn the Yoruba for tagging such thing a taboo.

Rilwayne001:


But you know the odd is high compared to the normal one.

And btw, it is recommended and not mandatory, and so i don't really see this as an issue. The thread is uncalled for in the first place, and i see no reason why the OP should condemn the Yoruba for tagging such thing a taboo.

The fact: This marriage is Halal. Yoruba should not call it Taboo. So now if Rilwan wants to marry his cousin. is rilwan offending Allah or committing Taboo in Islam? No.

Other Yoruba can call it Taboo but not the Muslims.

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You will never understand when choose not to understand.

A marriage between a woman with S.S genotype and a man with S.S genotype will result to offsprings with sickler. And the supernatural that created Human knows this. Y don't HE send a divine revelation on that?


HE says Fas'alu Ahlal Zikri inkumtum Lata'alamun


Qur'an is not a book of science that explain in details rather its a book of signs

You should ask why the supernatural being didn't send any revelation on genotype or why did the Super-being created genotypes. Even at that sickle cell is one of the cause of infant death which Yoruba call "abiku", they think it was a spiritual attack.

I asked abdelkabir why a lot of Prophet Muhammad (SA) children died early, maybe you can answer that.

Nothing like problem here. If they are certified by a doctor to have kids they should. In fact only few minorities have such genetic disorder.

Why need a doctor when it is a commandment from a super-being that knows all to practice incest?

i am not even talking about the disorder, I am talking about the abnormalities in the gene that will pass to generations.

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The fact: This marriage is Halal. Yoruba should not call it Taboo. So now if Rilwan wants to marry his cousin. is rilwan offending Allah or committing Taboo in Islam? No.

Other Yoruba can call it Taboo but not the Muslims.

Islamic scriptures does not speak for all Yorubas, Yorubas also have their divine commandments. It is taboo in Yoruba.

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The fact: This marriage is Halal. Yoruba should not call it Taboo. So now if Rilwan wants to marry his cousin. is rilwan offending Allah or committing Taboo in Islam? No.

Other Yoruba can call it Taboo but not the Muslims.

Ok

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Not at all. You're comparing genetic disorder also with what is halal in Qur'an.

You're comparing genetic disease with cousins marriage. right?


1. is science and the other is divinity.

Any genetic disorder or the cause is not good for humanity, the super-being should have alert the early Muslims in the scriptures.

Science gave the answer, What'sup?

tintingz:
You should ask why the supernatural being didn't send any revelation on genotype or why did the Super-being created genotypes. Even at that sickle cell is one of the cause of infant death which Yoruba call "abiku", they think it was a spiritual attack.

The reason is simple: Qur'an is not a science book. That means God is going to explain many things, many disease and disorders in the Qur'an. It's the book of signs not science. Fas'alu Ahlal Zikri inkumtum Lata'alamun

I asked abdelkabir why a lot of Prophet Muhammad (SA) children died early, maybe you can answer that.

That's not the topic. What kills them is best known to their creator.

Why need a doctor when it is a commandment from a super-being that knows all to practice incest?

When you have diabetes you went to the Doctor and he advises you not to take sugar. Why do you need a doctor when its divine permitted to take sugar?

i am not even talking about the disorder, I am talking about the abnormalities in the gene that will pass to generations.

Which abnormalities? What are abnormalities? If gene abnormalities cannot cause genetic disorder then it cannot be called abnormalities.

tintingz:
Islamic scriptures does not speak for all Yorubas, Yorubas also have their divine commandments. It is taboo in Yoruba.

Islamic scripture is bigger than any culture. Yoruba divine commandments from who? Do they worship jinns?

tintingz:
Any genetic disorder or the cause is not good for humanity, the super-being should have alert the early Muslims in the scriptures.

Science gave the answer, What'sup?

Quran is not book of disease, genetic control or book of science. Its book of signs.


Allah says Fas'alu Ahlal Zikri inkumtum Lata'alamun

FriendChoice:


The reason is simple: Qur'an is not a science book. That means God is going to explain many things, many disease and disorders in the Qur'an. It's the book of signs not science. Fas'alu Ahlal Zikri inkumtum Lata'alamun

Lol, see excuse, what's the purpose of this thread sef.

That's not the topic. What kills them is best known to their creator.

Another excuse.

When you have diabetes you went to the Doctor and he advises you not to take sugar. Why do you need a doctor when its divine permitted to take sugar?

Why did the super-being created diabetes?

Sugar is good for the body.

And the thing is diabetes is mostly inherited to the gene, sugar only triggers it, the super-being should have alert the people how to control the intake of sugar. Doctors are needed since the super-being didn't inform us.

Which abnormalities? What are abnormalities? If gene abnormalities cannot cause genetic disorder then it cannot be called abnormalities.

What causes autosomal in gene?

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Islamic scripture is bigger than any culture. Yoruba divine commandments from who? Do they worship jinns?

shut up and stop being a religious bigot.

Yoruba people worship Olorun the God of all gods(orishas), they have divine revelation from the Gods.

Islamic scripture is bigger than any other scripture and yet it doesn't know the risk in incest?

Yeye.

tintingz:
Lol, see excuse, what's the purpose of this thread sef.


Another excuse.

When you have nothing to say.

Why did the super-being created diabetes? [/quote

Sugar is good for the body.

Ask your creator not me.

And the thing is diabetes is mostly inherited to the gene, sugar only triggers it, the super-being should have alert the people how to control the intake of sugar. Doctors are needed since the super-being didn't inform us.

mostly but not always. That means it can exist naturally without being transmitted in the gene.

What causes autosomal in gene?

Are genes found on autosomal chromosome.

tintingz:
shut up and stop being a religious bigot.

Yoruba people worship Olorun the God of all gods(orishas), they have divine revelation from the Gods.

Islamic scripture is bigger than any other scripture and yet it doesn't know the risk in incest?

Yeye.

Shut up. Islam is bigger than your Useless Olorun. All Yoruba Muslims must bow to the supreme Allah alone and alone. Islam says Fas'alu Ahlal Zikri inkumtum Lata'alamun. And that's the answer to genes.

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Shut up. Islam is bigger than your Useless Olorun. All Yoruba Muslims must bow to the supreme Allah alone and alone. Islam says Fas'alu Ahlal Zikri inkumtum Lata'alamun. And that's the answer to genes.

Religious bigotry.

No wonder we have boko haram.

If you don't know, all yorubas make use of the name "Olorun". He's the creator of all.

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When you have nothing to say.




Ask your creator not me.



mostly but not always. That means it can exist naturally without being transmitted in the gene.



Are genes found on autosomal chromosome.

Ok

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Shut up. Islam is bigger than your Useless Olorun..

Olorun is the Yoruba word for God

tintingz:
Religious bigotry.

No wonder we have boko haram.

If you don't know, all yorubas make use of the name "Olorun". He's the creator of all.

Say anything you like: Call me Boko Haram not pretending by saying " No wonder we have Boko Haram"


What you refer to as Olorun particularly in this discussion is another god different from Allah. So stop fooling yourself now calling him as the creator of all.

Rilwayne001:

Olorun is the Yoruba word for God

How He define it here is different until now.

FriendChoice:


Say anything you like: Call me Boko Haram not pretending by saying " No wonder we have Boko Haram"


What you refer to as Olorun particularly in this discussion is another god different from Allah. So stop fooling yourself now calling him as the creator of all.

Em Sorry if you think I called you boko haram.

Olorun is the heavenly God, that's the meaning of "Olorun" He's the creator of all, He's God in Yoruba land.

Nothing is bigger than Olorun Oba orun, the king of heavens, orishas, humans.

tintingz:
Em Sorry if you think I called you boko haram.

Olorun is the heavenly God, that's the meaning of "Olorun" He's the creator of all, He's God in Yoruba land.

Nothing is bigger than Olorun Oba orun, the king of heavens, orishas, humans.

is Olorun same as the Islamic Allah or another god in Yoruba land?