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Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by Ken4Christ: 3:36pm On Mar 28, 2017
I am amazed that the simple parable Jesus gave about one being cast into hell with two hands cannot be understood.

Jesus is really not talking about hands literally. He is simply saying your journey to eternal life is worth the sacrifice.

The pleasures of sin will land you in hell. Live right as a Christian. It will certainly cost you something - the momentary pleasures which you will miss for a much better gain.

The parable also let us know hell fire is real. Your unbelief doesn't change the fact. There are overwhelming evidences of the reality of hell in the Bible.
Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by achorladey: 3:52pm On Mar 28, 2017
Hairyrapunzel:


Your watchtower publication knows
Thanks for the research, you've in a way enlighten those following about some salient points contained in God's word regarding what they needed to do to survive this wicked system of things.
Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by achorladey: 3:54pm On Mar 28, 2017
Hairyrapunzel:


Your watchtower publication knows
Thanks for the research, you've in a way enlighten those following about some salient points contained in God's word regarding what they needed to do to survive this wicked system of things. l hope you can take a cue as well. Thanks once again.
Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by Hairyrapunzel: 4:36pm On Mar 28, 2017
achorladey:

Thanks for the research, you've in a way enlighten those following about some salient points contained in God's word regarding what they needed to do to survive this wicked system of things.

End the Wicked system of things when jehovah will kill over 99.9% of humans. Such a loving God who is blood thirsty. i remember the bible says whosoever believeth in the son of God. I know Jesus Christ is the only route to Salvation in the bible

Mention a passage that says we must join an organization to earn salvation in the bible?

You have a jehovah that wants to kill over 99.9% of the earth's population to prove what?

You can't wait for this wicked system of things to end so your new system can come quickly. So you are indirectly saying you can't wait for over 99.9% of humans including children to die?

You see why Russia says your organisation is an extremist one?
God never said he will destroy over 99.9% of humans watchtower said so.
God never said we should join any organization to get salvation watchtower said so.

Those salient points are contained in your magazines and publications I never referenced the bible. The last time I checked the bible was the only word of God.
Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by Hairyrapunzel: 4:51pm On Mar 28, 2017
Peacefullove:


I shake my head for your unreasonableness.
I should ask Jesus, you mean u dont even understand what you quote ? Or Jesus lied ?
grin grin , how many dead man have u seen whose two hands disappeared into an imaginary hell as stated in Mark 9:43 ? where his there two hands buried ?


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Hell fire is real. Jesus lied when he said those words? Those words are in the bible.
Mark 9:43 If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It's better to enter eternal life with only one hand than to go into the unquenchable fires of hell with two hands.

Do people enter eternal life with only one hand?
Well I don't know I have not being there.
there is unquenchable fire in hell and is sand in your grave. The passage said hell has unquenchable fire did Jesus lie that there is unquenchable fire in hell?

Jesus said those words not me. The bible never said Jesus lied. So I don't know how he would have been lying in that verse maybe you can explain since you said Jesus is lying that you can enter into hell where there is unquenchable fire with two hands
Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by Hairyrapunzel: 4:55pm On Mar 28, 2017
achorladey:

Thanks for the research, you've in a way enlighten those following about some salient points contained in God's word regarding what they needed to do to survive this wicked system of things. l hope you can take a cue as well. Thanks once again.

Cue ke. I cannot stay in a place where I will see so many dead bodies and vultures eating them. I can't stand the sight.

I believe in Jesus Christ. And Jesus Christ is the only way anybody can be saved in the bible. I stand with Jesus Christ.

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Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by achorladey: 7:31pm On Mar 28, 2017
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End the Wicked system of things when jehovah will kill over 99.9% of humans. Such a loving God who is blood thirsty. i remember the bible says whosoever believeth in the son of God. I know Jesus Christ is the only route to Salvation in the bible

Mention a passage that says we must join an organization to earn salvation in the bible?

You have a jehovah that wants to kill over 99.9% of the earth's population to prove what?

You can't wait for this wicked system of things to end so your new system can come quickly. So you are indirectly saying you can't wait for over 99.9% of humans including children to die?

You see why Russia says your organisation is an extremist one?
God never said he will destroy over 99.9% of humans watchtower said so.
God never said we should join any organization to get salvation watchtower said so.

Those salient points are contained in your magazines and publications I never referenced the bible. The last time I checked the bible was the only word of God.

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Achorladey
You could have taken your time to remove the supporting scripture quoted in the magazine. Sorry oooo. What percentage was killed during Noah's time that Jesus you believed in referenced in his preaching work while still on earth. 50% bah? Those Bible verses are there for those following to ponder and draw their own conclusion. Thanks for the post once again it's a beautiful piece.
Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by achorladey: 7:41pm On Mar 28, 2017
Hairyrapunzel:


Cue ke. I cannot stay in a place where I will see so many dead bodies and vultures eating them. I can't stand the sight.

I believe in Jesus Christ. And Jesus Christ is the only way anybody can be saved in the bible. I stand with Jesus Christ.
I know you believe strongly in Jesus, and he must definitely have being the executioner during the time of Noah's system of things according to some of your beliefs. So when he said ''just like it was during Noah's day'' so ours will be as well, was he mixing his words? What percentage is 8 souls in the overall population that died in Noah's day?
Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by achorladey: 8:05pm On Mar 28, 2017
Hairyrapunzel:


Cue ke. I cannot stay in a place where I will see so many dead bodies and vultures eating them. I can't stand the sight.

I believe in Jesus Christ. And Jesus Christ is the only way anybody can be saved in the bible. I stand with Jesus Christ.
Did Noah and those that survived saw dead bodies when they came out of the ark. You make me laugh. For your mind you feel those that will survive will be entangled in the cross fire. Chai this your reasoning ability superb. Track all those destruction that took place in the Bible, even Rahab and her family were not caught in the cross fire when the Israelites invaded Jericho. #think deep over that publication you have cited. Many clues abound.
Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by Hairyrapunzel: 8:41pm On Mar 28, 2017
achorladey:

Did Noah and those that survived saw dead bodies when they came out of the ark. You make me laugh. For your mind you feel those that will survive will be entangled in the cross fire. Chai this your reasoning ability superb. Track all those destruction that took place in the Bible, even Rahab and her family were not caught in the cross fire when the Israelites invaded Jericho. #think deep over that publication you have cited. Many clues abound.

That is not the question I asked I said give me the passage in the bible where God or Jesus said we should join an organisation to be saved or to obtain salvation?
Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by LOVEFACTS: 8:47pm On Mar 28, 2017
missfrancess:
sir are you a doctor

He doesn't sound like a Dr
Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by Hairyrapunzel: 8:50pm On Mar 28, 2017
achorladey:

I know you believe strongly in Jesus, and he must definitely have being the executioner during the time of Noah's system of things according to some of your beliefs. So when he said ''just like it was during Noah's day'' so ours will be as well, was he mixing his words? What percentage is 8 souls in the overall population that died in Noah's day?

I still need the passage where God or Jesus said we must join an organisation to be saved? Stop saying stories. I can give you bible passages for my own belief that says Jesus is the only way to salvation. Give me bible at least one bible passagethat says an organisation called watchtower is the only way to salvation.

Noah was a person. The bible was specific noah and his family. And guess what after the flood happened eternal life did not come. Again what passage in the bible says that it is only through and organisation will we get eternal life?
Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by Hairyrapunzel: 8:55pm On Mar 28, 2017
[quote author=achorladey post=55043667][/quote]

The scriptures came with the quotes from watchtower magazine. The statements were made from watchtower magazines and publications. If somebody writes bible passages in his novel does that mean the novel is the word of God?

give me a passage in the Bible God said we will get eternal life or salvation through joining an organisation?
Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by achorladey: 8:58pm On Mar 28, 2017
Hairyrapunzel:


I still need the passage where God or Jesus said we must join an organisation to be saved? Stop saying stories. I can give you bible passages for my own belief that says Jesus is the only way to salvation. Give me bible at least one bible passagethat says an organisation called watchtower is the only way to salvation.

Noah was a person. The bible was specific noah and his family. And guess what after the flood happened eternal life did not come. Again what passage in the bible says that it is only through and organisation will we get eternal life?
oh you're looking for examples of people that after judicial punishment they had eternal life. You're a good researcher work on it. You that cannot listen yo my stories you expect me to find a scripture for you. No think am at all.
Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by LOVEFACTS: 9:04pm On Mar 28, 2017
babalonimi:

My problem with them s their doctrine that tolerate drunkenness n they are always rigid.

I was forced to join nairaland seeing how ignorant and misinformed many people are about Jehovah and the JW. By the way must I quote someone before I can respond. Please help!
Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by achorladey: 9:04pm On Mar 28, 2017
Hairyrapunzel:


The scriptures came with the quotes from watchtower magazine. The statements were made from watchtower magazines and publications. If somebody writes bible passages in his novel does that mean the novel is the word of God?

give me a passage in the Bible God said we will get eternal life or salvation through joining an organisation?
You cannot comprehend the supporting scripture in a material you're able to retrieve and extract on your own. Oga no think am ooooo. If I supply one you cannot comprehend it as you cannot comprehend abstain from blood in Acts 15:29.
Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by achorladey: 9:10pm On Mar 28, 2017
Hairyrapunzel:


That is not the question I asked I said give me the passage in the bible where God or Jesus said we should join an organisation to be saved or to obtain salvation?

It seems the apostle of Jesus Christ and those that join the Christian community back then must all be working in isolation as it seems since once you believe in Jesus gbam you are saved.
Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by achorladey: 9:16pm On Mar 28, 2017
Hairyrapunzel:


I still need the passage where God or Jesus said we must join an organisation to be saved? Stop saying stories. I can give you bible passages for my own belief that says Jesus is the only way to salvation. Give me bible at least one bible passagethat says an organisation called watchtower is the only way to salvation.

Noah was a person. The bible was specific noah and his family. And guess what after the flood happened eternal life did not come. Again what passage in the bible says that it is only through and organisation will we get eternal life?
I am looking forward to that kind of your sporadic kind of survival. Even Lot survived through a channel despite the fact he believed in God. God still had to use a channel to save him. You simply cannot comprehend.
Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by Peacefullove: 9:41pm On Mar 28, 2017
Hairyrapunzel:


Hell fire is real. Jesus lied when he said those words? Those words are in the bible.
Mark 9:43 If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It's better to enter eternal life with only one hand than to go into the unquenchable fires of hell with two hands.

Do people enter eternal life with only one hand?
Well I don't know I have not being there.


lol, at your question . for such to happen it means people also go to heaven with their Body parts to showcase they are cripple ?

or is there a Crippled Spiri spiri ? grin grin grin


there is unquenchable fire in hell and is sand in your grave. The passage said hell has unquenchable fire did Jesus lie that there is unquenchable fire in hell?

Jesus said those words not me. The bible never said Jesus lied. So I don't know how he would have been lying in that verse maybe you can explain since you said Jesus is lying that you can enter into hell where there is unquenchable fire with two hands

simple, if people go there with there two hands to hell as that Mark 9:43 claims, it means Body disappear to Hell , which is an OUTRIGHT LIE .
Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by Hairyrapunzel: 9:58pm On Mar 28, 2017
Peacefullove:


lol, at your question . for such to happen it means people also go to heaven with their Body parts to showcase they are cripple ?

or is there a Crippled Spiri spiri ? grin grin grin



simple, if people go there with there two hands to hell as that Mark 9:43 claims, it means Body disappear to Hell , which is an OUTRIGHT LIE .





Jesus made the statement so take it to Jesus Christ. Ask him if he lied. I stand withJesus and he made that statement. hell fire is real.
Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by Hairyrapunzel: 10:03pm On Mar 28, 2017
achorladey:

I am looking forward to that kind of your sporadic kind of survival. Even Lot survived through a channel despite the fact he believed in God. God still had to use a channel to save him. You simply cannot comprehend.

Lol. Rotflmao. Now is channel and no longer organisation. Lots survival did not lead to eternal life. What passage in the bible says we will get eternal life or salvation through a channel or organisation? Still waiting waiting for the passage.
Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by achorladey: 10:07pm On Mar 28, 2017
Hairyrapunzel:


Lol. Rotflmao. Now is channel and no longer organisation. Lots survival did not lead to eternal life. What passage in the bible says we will get eternal life or salvation through a channel or organisation? Still waiting waiting for the passage.
Abeg no wait oooo Jesus will save you now? Why bother? You expect me to tell to you who gives eternal life too? You know that as well. Abi Jws tell you sey dem dey share eternal life for there organization before?
Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by Hairyrapunzel: 10:37pm On Mar 28, 2017
achorladey:

It seems the apostle of Jesus Christ and those that join the Christian community back then must all be working in isolation as it seems since once you believe in Jesus gbam you are saved.

You have still not given me the bible passage where they said salvation and eternal life comes only from joining an organisation

FYI apostles preached on obtaining salvation only through Jesus Christ in the bible. They never said joining our church will make you saved. Stop the stories I can give you passages on Jesus Christ being the only way to salvation.

Stop the rigmarole and give me a bible passage saying you will be saved or get eternal life only by joining and organisation
Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by achorladey: 10:45pm On Mar 28, 2017
Hairyrapunzel:


You have still not given me the bible passage where they said salvation and eternal life comes only from joining an organisation

FYI apostles preached on obtaining salvation only through Jesus Christ in the bible. They never said joining our church will make you saved. Stop the stories I can give you passages on Jesus Christ being the only way to salvation.

Stop the rigmarole and give me a bible passage saying you will be saved or get eternal life only by joining and organisation
I don't tell you now, no wait for me. Serve Jesus as a lone ranger you will be saved. Peter and the rest did so, do so likewise.
Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by Hairyrapunzel: 10:55pm On Mar 28, 2017
achorladey:

Abeg no wait oooo Jesus will save you now? Why bother? You expect me to tell to you who gives eternal life too? You know that as well. Abi Jws tell you sey dem dey share eternal life for there organization before?

You have still not seen the bible passage. You said for people to survive your armageddon and enter the new system they need to join the organisation. So I am simply asking where in the bible did God say you will obtain salvation only by joining an organisation. You have not produced a bible verse abi e no dey? I tot all your beliefs are even from the bible

Shame no let you talk say no bible verse dey. At least the bible said Jesus Christ saves. I stand with Jesus christ.

You believe that your jehovah will Kill over 99.9% of earth's population then vultures will eat their deadbodies and you will feel nothing why? because they do not belong to an organisation wow. So much of a loving God. See the event you look forward to. Example of when a cult programming takes over human emotions.
Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by achorladey: 11:02pm On Mar 28, 2017
Hairyrapunzel:


You have still not seen the bible passage. You said for people to survive your armageddon and enter the new system they need to join the organisation. So I am simply asking where in the bible did God say you will obtain salvation only by joining an organisation. You have not produced a bible verse abi e no dey? I tot all your beliefs are even from the bible

Shame no let you talk say no bible verse dey. At least the bible said Jesus Christ saves. I stand with Jesus christ.

You believe that your jehovah will Kill over 99.9% of earth's population then vultures will eat their deadbodies and you will feel nothing why? because they do not belong to an organisation wow. So much of a loving God. See the event you look forward to. Example of when a cult programming takes over human emotions.



So much of your loving God burn people in hell fire too. Example of when improper comprehension of Scriptures takes over human emotion.
Salvation belong to Jehovah, as well abi that wan no dey Bible.
Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by Hairyrapunzel: 11:06pm On Mar 28, 2017
achorladey:

I don't tell you now, no wait for me. Serve Jesus as a lone ranger you will be saved. Peter and the rest did so, do so likewise.

I can serve Jesus anywhere I must not be in a particular church to get salvation apostles didn't preach that. FYI being in a church doesn't guarantee you salvation through that church. Peter and the other aposties preached salvation through Jesus Christ
So no scripture saying we will get salvation by joining an organisation?
you lie about not knowing people who will be destroyed and saved. Now you are giving absurd illustration to prove that God and Jesus Said salvation will be obtained by joining an organisation with no biblical passages. Normal jw way no bible verses only watchtower materials to explain it. Continue
Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by Hairyrapunzel: 11:17pm On Mar 28, 2017
achorladey:

So much of your loving God burn people in hell fire too. Example of when improper comprehension of Scriptures takes over human emotion.
Salvation belong to Jehovah, as well abi that wan no dey Bible.


Lol when saying my loving God will burn people in hell fire also say your loving jehovah will Kill over 99.9% of humans then send vultures to eat their corpse. Imagine a new system full of corpse it will first smell for years.

Improper comprehension ke when you cannot even show one passage in the bible that says to survive the wicked system of things you have to join an organisation.

Salvation can only be gotten by joining an organisation according to you people. Jesus Christ can save and Jehovah can save too according to new and old Testament

I know you wanna change it to only jehovah can save jesus can save too abi the Jesus and the apostles were lying?
What passage in the bible which said joining only jehovahs organisation is the only way to salvation
Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by achorladey: 11:17pm On Mar 28, 2017
Hairyrapunzel:


I can serve Jesus anywhere I must not be in a particular church to get salvation apostles didn't preach that. FYI being in a church doesn't guarantee you salvation through that church. Peter and the other aposties preached salvation through Jesus Christ
So no scripture saying we will get salvation by joining an organisation?
you lie about not knowing people who will be destroyed and saved. Now you are giving absurd illustration to prove that God and Jesus Said salvation will be obtained by joining an organisation with no biblical passages. Normal jw way no bible verses only watchtower materials to explain it. Continue
I cant help your case because you cannot comprehend my absurd illustration( according to you). Is that my problem?
When giving illustration on Rahab, Lot and Noah I didn't cite watchtower oooooo.
Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by achorladey: 11:21pm On Mar 28, 2017
Hairyrapunzel:


Lol when saying my loving God will burn people in hell fire also say your loving jehovah will Kill over 99.9% of humans then send vultures to eat their corpse. Imagine a new system full of corpse it will first smell for years.

Improper comprehension ke when you cannot even show one passage in the bible that says to survive the wicked system of things you have to join an organisation.

Salvation can only be gotten by joining an organisation according to you people. Jesus Christ can save and Jehovah can save too according to new and old Testament

I know you wanna change it to only jehovah can save jesus can save too abi the Jesus and the apostles were lying?
What passage in the bible which said joining only jehovahs organisation is the only way to salvation

Don't be pained that am not giving scriptures any more they are all absurd illustration according to you. I can't help your case. Jesus will abi no be so?
Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by Hairyrapunzel: 11:25pm On Mar 28, 2017
achorladey:

I can help your case because you cannot comprehend my absurd illustration( according to you). is that my problem.

Lol. Still no bible passage on getting salvation only through jehovahs organisation. Interesting.
Re: Why It Is Wrong To Ban Jehovahs Witnesses by achorladey: 11:27pm On Mar 28, 2017
Hairyrapunzel:


Lol. Still no bible passage on getting salvation only through jehovahs organisation. Interesting.
They are absurd passages that you can't comprehend. Seriously! Am not joking about this. That is if you can comprehend this statement sef

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