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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by mikolo80: 5:27am On Apr 23, 2017
modik:


I guess you did not understand the question. What exactly has been working in Nigeria since independence?

Dissuade your mind from this administration so we can have an objective appraisal of an entity called Nigeria.
everything we want to work
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by mikolo80: 5:28am On Apr 23, 2017
triplec93:
I'm not an expert in law, but i believe that something could be done about it. I am neither for or against them, rather than creating a separation in the country by instigating hate amongst tribes, take the case up to a reputable and powerful international court that has an affiliation with the us or britain. If the verdict given is favourable towards ur course, Nigeria as a third world country would be compelled to yield due to the fear of sanctions from those powerful nations.
we should take Nigeria matter to us or Britain. I see. so.... they're your masters now ba?
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by mikolo80: 5:30am On Apr 23, 2017
Earth2Metahuman:
This contraption will never work until it breaks.
if it doesn't work now I'm will never work if it breaks,ask all the broken countries
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by unclejb2(m): 5:35am On Apr 23, 2017
Angel196:
One of the most popularly discussed topics on the Nigerian social media platform today is it's possible division. I hear it been discussed left and right and to be honest I'm sick and tired of it.

Should Biafra be allowed free reign as another country?

My opinion? I couldn't care less. I remain indifferent to these arguments. And I honestly don't know why they are stopping them. If they are so desperate to have their own country fine. Everyone is free to choose but no one is free from the consequences of their actions. There are always consequences from every action whether good or bad.

All I know is that, with or without them, Nigeria can and will still be great. In short there would be less pressure on resources and make it easier for Nigeria to get rid of corruption and monitor the country better.

No offence but you claim you want your own country and all yet you are found everywhere in Nigeria.

I read a post from an Igbo man today who said a lot of enlightening things about Biafra and how he didn't support the idea of it.https://www.nairaland.com/3753648/why-think-biafra-may-not
. But one thing with people is that they find it hard to see and accept the truth even if it drops from the sky and hits them on the face.

Nigeria in this critical stage have more important things to face than dividing their time and resources on things like this. If they want it so bad let them go and try their luck in building a country and see how 'easy' it is.

I pray for Nigeria and know there's hope for it.
After saying that you care less if Biafra divides, you turn around to give all types of frivolous reasons supported by another post on why Biafra will not succeed. Pls drink your hypocrisy from your toilet cistern. Biafra has turned to your greatest nightmare and it will soon become a "daymare"

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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by hucienda: 5:55am On Apr 23, 2017
This topic is funny.

The OP - Angel196 - starts with the premise that she couldn't care less about division of the country but several posts later, she infact states she's in support of the country being together.

Is that not confusion?

One doesn't need a soothsayer to tell one the results a referendum would wrought were it to hold or which of the different regions would fare better or worse in case of a possible division.

All these kinda threads springing here and there on this board are becoming puerile.

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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by mikolo80: 6:05am On Apr 23, 2017
ZombieTAMER:

Op no one can fight corruption in Nigeria with the system on ground
The foundation is faulty
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wetin do am


It's not about PDP or APC
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no it isn't

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It's not about Buhari or GEJ

no it isn't

All Nigerian politicians are thieves.. No exception

agreed

There is no existing institution that is designed to check our public officers
[quote ]

efcc
code of conduct
numerous commissions
Dafuq you talking about
It's free for all

so why are you not participating.
lamenting onliNE doesn't count


We need a change from the status quo

OK

We need to restructure to survive

define this structure
how is it different from what we have now

We need to go back to the regions and make it viable able

we have 36 senior as per your agitation in the past. look where it got us. you just want to worsen the situation and give more ppl opportunity to steal

This system of robbing peter to pay Paul
Paul no see shingbain


It's making the states lazy and unproductive


no
laziness is what's making the states lazy

If the parasites who only think that only way to survive is to wait for niger delta oil money in the name of monthly allocation cannot heed the call to restructure

who no like better things. if e easy why Niger delta no develop without the oyel.
sorry but we the majority will gang rape you till death and nothing you can do about it.


Then let's Balkanize the nation

Balkanise na
teargas and bullets will be your portion

To ur tents o Israel

Cameroon no far na


Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by mikolo80: 6:17am On Apr 23, 2017
jjjjj2017:

do not be deceived, there's nothing like fight against corruption but fight against opposition.
so opposition didn't steal. APC lying on opposition abi. they diet steal at all. they're holy martyrs ko. maximum foolishness

None of our present & past politician is saint.

take back the maximum foolishness

Check the history of self acclaimed man of integrity(Buhari) for you to know that he is fantastically corrupt.

we willstill vote him again abi you have a saint in your pocket that we will vote for

Nigeria was designed by Britain the way it is to satisfy their hiding agenda.

and you don't have escape plan after 56 years

Nigeria is never 1 & can never be 1.

cut it's south east without central leadership and internal tribalism that is one for your mind

We need to go our separate ways because large percentage of Nigerians don't enjoy this scam called a country except the minority polithiefians.

then when you realise that the slavery is worse under Ibo rule there will be nobody to save you

The oppression from northerners over the rest geopolitical zone is alarming & will not stop unless we go our separate way.
point the oppression. is your governor a northerner
what about your senator, minister, reps, assembly, lga, councillors, contractors, Civil servants of which you have highest number. they're all Hausa abi. we're back to the maximum foolishness
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by mikolo80: 6:25am On Apr 23, 2017
deedeedee1:
Madam, we cant kill corruption in nigeria. Why? Because we live in a indigenous ethnically diverse country.

what has your tribesman done for you
Everybody in nigeria is a tribalist(especially in terms of interest). We all will defend our tribesmen no matter how bad they are.
then you're a fool

Now let me give you an example: I am yoruba but imagine if osinbajo is the president of the country and he is charged with corruption, whereby he will have to resign from his positon or get impeached for the vp to take over. Now imagine if such vp to take place is not yoruba, will i support the impeachment of osinbajo even though there are evidences that he is corrupt?
then it means you're enjoying the poverty. how VP epp you.

The answer is no!!! I definately wont!!
foolishness and magality to the max

Why? Because he is yoruba and i am also yoruba. Now if yoruba had their own country would osinbajo have the gods to steal money?
we will start supporting our clans
Ife modakeke comes to mind
ijaw itseKiri
Fulani Tiv
I'm sure igbos have dia own rivalries
I've even seen streets fighting over election
our stupidity is the problem Nov British or north

Now this is why monoethnic countries have very little corruption.
Nigeria has 250 languages
we not having any mono ethnic anything soon

That is how igbo country will also look like.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha place where they have carve system. you're joking
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by mikolo80: 6:28am On Apr 23, 2017
jjjjj2017:

You get it wrong at some point, corruption doesn't stop at only stealing. Favouritism/partiality is part of corruption.

OK

Murderous Fulani herdsmen haveBenue farmers & women have been killed times without number yet no arrest has been made so far just because the their life patron & kinsman is the president of this country.

the people enjoy the dying

Do you think that Nigerians can just go to Cameron & started killing camerounian anyhow without resistance?

Cameroonians don't like death
The senseless
they're not senseless

killings from those murderous herdsmen will be resisted if we are not one Nigerian because the security outfit of a country under which Benue stare fall will definitely resist the madness from those murderous herdsmen


why are they looking like mumu

Unless we split, common man will continue to be oppressed & suffer.
so cute
so naive

The killings of other tribe by Fulani starts from the days of Tafawa Balewa(Fulani man) & he supported the killings just as we are witnessing under the present administration.
that's what happens when a tribe is made up of cowards
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by mikolo80: 6:30am On Apr 23, 2017
Angel196:


I tell you it will still happen. Cause about from tribalism there is religious favoritism. If you feel being made a single tribe is what can make a country great then so be it. Some single tribe state are being governed by a person of that tribe, but he still embezzles and goes scot free.
are you minding ppl that have made up their mind. leave dem let them go. they should ask Britain after the brexit vote. dia eye don de clear now
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by successmatters(m): 6:31am On Apr 23, 2017
Angel196:

Well for one they are trying really hard to fight the corruption which I'm sure everyone knows is the reason we are in this situation today instead of lying about corruption not being in Nigeria. If we can eradicate corruption from Nigeria completely then the toughest part of developing Nigeria is solved.

Corruption can never be eradicated from Nigeria if Rotimi Iscariot is still a serving minister in this country. You have the embodiment of corruption sitting all around the corrupt presidio at FEC meetings and still think anyone can fight corruption.

All na joke abeg.

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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by mikolo80: 6:32am On Apr 23, 2017
jjjjj2017:

Kindly share me links where Buhari takes an action to curb the killings.
Please, dont mention GEJ name here because he's not part of the discussion here.
I am a Yoruba man & can tell you authoritatively that corruption rose to the highest during OBJ 1999 regime.
you're blind to all the recent military successes ba.
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by mikolo80: 6:33am On Apr 23, 2017
deedeedee1:

Just recently, south korea(a monoethnic society) impeached their president. If such a thing happened in nigeria, the hausas and fulanis will side buhari. Now tell me is this a country? We need to stop ignoring the truth. Nigeria cannot eradicate corruption. Corruption exists in every country but suppressing it is what an oduduwa nation will achieve.
with constituted authority and ponmo cutting abi and 50 million naira bed? I see why we continue to vote the kind of leaders we do
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by PDJT: 6:35am On Apr 23, 2017
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mikolo80:
haha you actually think they let their ppl vote. you're so cute
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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by successmatters(m): 6:37am On Apr 23, 2017
mikolo80:
you're blind to all the recent military successes ba.

Which successes happened in Benue where herdsmen still slaughter the indigenes at will?

Which successes happened in southern Kaduna where Fulani militias are paid and still they kill hundreds of indigene in their houses.

Which successes happened in all parts of Nigeria where Fulani cows are allowed to chew the crops of every farmer, rape the farmers and still kill those that resist, what sort of dirty counter is this.

Buharry is the worst leader to have ever led any county in this world.

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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by PDJT: 6:37am On Apr 23, 2017
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mikolo80:
are you minding ppl that have made up their mind. leave dem let them go. they should ask Britain after the brexit vote. dia eye don de clear now
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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by mikolo80: 6:38am On Apr 23, 2017
UncleJudax:

Nigeria was never built to work. Do you need a soothsayer to tell you that?

so you can never succeed in Nigeria cuz your assertion

What do you mean has corruption been fought before? The EFCC was created by Buhari? EFCC (just like other institutions) is a federal witch-hunting entity...Only works when and where the government wants.


did PDP members steal or not. simple kweshion

If institutions are not independent and well-structured nothing will work.

nothing wrong with our institutions everything wrong with the operators
And this had been the situation since independence.
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by mikolo80: 6:40am On Apr 23, 2017
jjjjj2017:

Northerner killed a pastor wife in kaduna & abuja, the killers now walks around the country as a free.
Northerner kidnapped & impregnate Ese Oruru but the culprist is now a free man.
Yoruba & Northerner clashed in Ile-Ife, 21 Yoruba men including a monarch were arrested while 0 northerner were arrested.
Look, the injustice in the land is unbearable all in the name of one Nigeria.
all the cultist that killed students in South nko. armed robbers, kidnappers, militants all billionaires o. abegi mowu hia word joor
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by midol: 6:41am On Apr 23, 2017
deedeedee1:
Nigeria will be great. Blah! Blah!blah! Your fathers once said it. Now you are saying it. That means your children will also say it. Dont you guys get tired?
You keep doing same thing and expecting a different result. Nigeria was created by the British. Funny enough, the same British people are doing things in sensible ways by allowing referendum. Shouldn't you be like them.

Orie e pe! You get sense walahi!

I don't know why we yorubas like mrmaestro want to die untop of Biafra matter. kini ti yin gan na?

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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by mikolo80: 6:42am On Apr 23, 2017
Angel196:


Do you have something against the northerners?

Is it only northerners that have been killing and fighting? Did you read about Modakeke and IFE's war? Aren't they both Yoruba's? Why did they fight? Don't delude yourself that being the same tribe will stop anything. It wouldn't cause people will just find another reason to create favoritism.
you think you can win with logic. so cute. I used to be like you.

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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by mikolo80: 6:46am On Apr 23, 2017
successmatters:


Which successes happened in Benue where herdsmen still slaughter the indigenes at will?


the people are enjoying it

Which successes happened in southern Kaduna where Fulani militias are paid and still they kill hundreds of indigene in their houses.


and the kaduna ppl wait foolishly for death to come
if you don't value your life why should another person

Which successes happened in all parts of Nigeria where Fulani cows are allowed to chew the crops of every farmer, rape the farmers and still kill those that resist, what sort of dirty counter is this.

dem no teach una pest and disease and how to prevent them for school


Buharry is the worst leader to have ever led any county in this world.
you never go Venezuela or Syria or Somalia
I doubt you watch more than Africa magic
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by thirty(m): 6:48am On Apr 23, 2017
Break up¡¡¡
Don't ask me why.

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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by midol: 6:52am On Apr 23, 2017
mikolo80:
with constituted authority and ponmo cutting abi and 50 million naira bed? I see why we continue to vote the kind of leaders we do

Mikolodeen my yoruba muslim brother, stop deceiving yourself. Nigeria will die and you will answer that your father's name by fire by force. Insha Allahu. Amin kufayakun! grin

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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by successmatters(m): 6:53am On Apr 23, 2017
mikolo80:


the people are enjoying it


and the kaduna ppl wait foolishly for death to come
if you don't value your life why should another person


dem no teach una pest and disease and how to prevent them for school
you never go Venezuela or Syria or Somalia
I doubt you watch more than Africa magic

Can you listen to yourself?

So you voted buharry so you can still use your hands to fight killers, no help from the mighty federal government again? If I spend my time fighting Fulani militia, why am I a Nigerian again? Some people are armed to fight while others are left to die.

Goodluck was votes out because they said he didn't fight insurgency, now we have insurgency in high gear and still people are not blaming this federal government because they are from the north and south west?

This country is so so rotten.

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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by jjjjj2017: 7:08am On Apr 23, 2017
mikolo80:
all the cultist that killed students in South nko. armed robbers, kidnappers, militants all billionaires o. abegi mowu hia word joor
I only argue with people that has functioning brain. Kindly ask any sensible person around you to explain all my post to you & help you with the appropriate words to reply then I will tutor you.

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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by jjjjj2017: 7:18am On Apr 23, 2017
mikolo80:
you're blind to all the recent military successes ba.
military success my foot! do you know how many times that insurgents have overpowered the NA base, killed them & carted away their ammunition under Buhari nose?
Buhari is a product of corruption & lacked merit to probe anyone of corruption.
Amaechi stole Rivers State money to finance Buhari election & got ministerial post as reward. Amaechi is a former PDP. Saraki, Tambuwal, El Rufai, Atiku Abubakar etc are all former PDP thieves yet Buhari named them a saint because they are now in APC. As of today, 50% of APC is made up of former PDP members & when the table turns, they decamp to another party.
Bad leaders are not the problem but blind senseless followers mumu.
Marriage is not a matter of 'tipatipa ni sokoto fi wo idi oku', if some set of people are not interested in this failed union, let them be. from 1960 till date, how many northerners have ruled this country? how does their policy benefit Nigerian?

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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by Angel196(f): 7:23am On Apr 23, 2017
unclejb2:
After saying that you care less if Biafra divides, you turn around to give all types of frivolous reasons supported by another post on why Biafra will not succeed. Pls drink your hypocrisy from your toilet cistern. Biafra has turned to your greatest nightmare and it will soon become a "daymare"

I said I could care less if Nigeria divides. And I don't. If they like they should create a Biafra or any other country. All I know is that Nigeria still has the possibility of being great.

I was only pointing out that even some Igbo's are not in support of a new country. I'm not being a hypocrite, I don't really care if there is a Biafra or not.
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by Angel196(f): 7:37am On Apr 23, 2017
successmatters:


Corruption can never be eradicated from Nigeria if Rotimi Iscariot is still a serving minister in this country. You have the embodiment of corruption sitting all around the corrupt presidio at FEC meetings and still think anyone can fight corruption.

All na joke abeg.
If that's what you feel. I seriously hope you don't all get a 'we told you so' in the future.

How did Ghana get rid of the people destroying them? If they made a rule that any leader guilty of corruption be killed just like China's, we the same people fighting for a better country would castigate them of making harsh laws.

Do you think at this stage corruption would be exempted from any new country any part of Nigeria decides to create? That would be naivety. But all the best to anyone who wants to create its own country.
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by Angel196(f): 7:46am On Apr 23, 2017
hucienda:
This topic is funny.

The OP - Angel196 - starts with the premise that she couldn't care less about division of the country but several posts later, she infact states she's in support of the country being together.

Is that not confusion?

One doesn't need a soothsayer to tell one the results a referendum would wrought were it to hold or which of the different regions would fare better or worse in case of a possible division.

All these kinda threads springing here and there on this board are becoming puerile.

I didn't point any benefit of being together. I said 'with or without them'. I was only pointing out some of the errors in their thought.

Why should I care if they stay or not? They don't feed or clothe me, neither do I depend on them for anything. Why will try to stop them?

I could care less seriously. In fact I think there will be more added advantages.

Everyone is free to make is choice, but that same person should remember their choices would be met with consequences.
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by ZombieTAMER: 7:56am On Apr 23, 2017
mikolo80:
everything we want to work
I said the system is faulty and you asked me what's wrong with it.....
There is no nation on earth ... I repeat no nation on earth where public office holders bury huge sums of money meant for welfare of the masses in cemetery or hide them in abandoned buildings...
The EFCC is the most corrupt institution in Nigeria after the police...so there is nothing like fighting corruption by EFCC .. Corrupt chime had a case with EFCC and ran into APC , today he is a free man.. This is a man that his son owns estates in Enugu
You mentioned rubber bullets and tear gas ..are u afraid of self determination.. Are you a parasite.. Don't u have the confidence to survive with your people.. You are a disgrace to the world common sense for saying that.. Because no country should be ran like a private property and a prison...
For us to disagree on all levels means we have nothing in common... We are not operating on the same wavelength .. It's a shame that we citizens of the same country.. That is the bane of our progress
The onus is on both us to rectify this British mistake called Nigeria ... By supporting Balkanization .. So everyone can stay on each side of his divide in peace...Or I ask again.. Are u a parasite?

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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by pchukwudi: 7:57am On Apr 23, 2017
Good!

But for God to hear your prayer, you should learn to HONESTLY wish others well in their own noble endeavors and aspirations too.

God is a respecter of no man or woman. What you sow to others in your thoughts is likely what God will let happen in your personal space.

One more thing, God ditastes lying lips and hypocritical minds.

So if truly you care less, why open this thread?

Why make refrence to a nay sayer and assert his baseless assumptions as enlightening?

Why put "easy" in quotes when talking about the building of the new nation you claim to not care about?

God is not a Man. And he hates prayers that emanete from dishonest hearts.

Only witches and wizards impose their wills on others in the name of prayers.


Angel196:
One of the most popularly discussed topics on the Nigerian social media platform today is it's possible division. I hear it been discussed left and right and to be honest I'm sick and tired of it.

Should Biafra be allowed free reign as another country?

My opinion? I couldn't care less. I remain indifferent to these arguments. And I honestly don't know why they are stopping them. If they are so desperate to have their own country fine. Everyone is free to choose but no one is free from the consequences of their actions. There are always consequences from every action whether good or bad.

All I know is that, with or without them, Nigeria can and will still be great. In short there would be less pressure on resources and make it easier for Nigeria to get rid of corruption and monitor the country better.

No offence but you claim you want your own country and all yet you are found everywhere in Nigeria.

I read a post from an Igbo man today who said a lot of enlightening things about Biafra and how he didn't support the idea of it.https://www.nairaland.com/3753648/why-think-biafra-may-not
. But one thing with people is that they find it hard to see and accept the truth even if it drops from the sky and hits them on the face.

Nigeria in this critical stage have more important things to face than dividing their time and resources on things like this. If they want it so bad let them go and try their luck in building a country and see how 'easy' it is.

I pray for Nigeria and know there's hope for it.

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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by ajebuter(f): 7:58am On Apr 23, 2017
Except we choose to close our eyes to obvious and glaring truth.

Unity and oneness is a farce..

No Nigerian feels safe except in his own region.. while Nigerians are killed,maimed ,imprisoned right in their own country on the basis of ethnic difference

So, what are we now saying?

l say we split ..simple..

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