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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by Angel196(f): 8:01am On Apr 23, 2017
pchukwudi:
Good!

But for God to hear your prayer, you should learn to HONESTLY wish others well in their own noble endeavors and aspiratiobs too.

God is a respecter of no man or woman. What you sow to others in your thoughts is likely what God will let happen in your personal space.

One more thing, God ditastes lying lips and hypocritical minds.

So if truly you care less, why open this thread?

Why make refrence to a nay sayer and assert his baselessassumption as enlightenig?


Why put "easy" in quotes when talking about the building of the new nation you claim to not care about?

God is not a Man. And he hates prayers that emanete from dishonest hearts.

Only withes and wizards impose their wills on others in the name of prayers.


Hahaha, so wishing them well means it'll be a bad thing to enlighten them about how difficult building a new country is? Okay, if you say so.

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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by ZombieTAMER: 8:02am On Apr 23, 2017
Angel196:


I didn't point any benefit of being together. I said 'with or without them'. I was only pointing out some of the errors in their thought.

Why should I care if they stay or not? They don't feed or clothe me, neither do I depend on them for anything. Why will try to stop them?

I could care less seriously. In fact I think there will be more added advantages.

Everyone is free to make is choice, but that same person should remember their choices would be met with consequences.
You feel that they are going to suffer if they leave the Nigerian union
You feel they will regret if they leave the Hausa Fulani enclave
My dear.. Your heart is in the right place.. You care so much for them..


But no bother about them
Bother about yourself
They wan comot ..cos nothing is working..Only thing wey u fit do and say is to wish them well
Mind ur own business

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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by jjjjj2017: 8:07am On Apr 23, 2017
ajebuter:
Except we choose to close our eyes to obvious and glaring truth.

Unity and oneness is a farce..

No Nigerian feels safe except in his own region.. while Nigerians are killed,maimed ,imprisoned right in their own country on the basis of ethnic difference

So, what are we now saying?

l say we split ..simple..
omo iya mi to n je butter, God go bless you!

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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by modik(m): 8:29am On Apr 23, 2017
Angel196:


It's not about the administration but about their own little effort in solving our main problem. Have you ever heard of so many money stolen or recovered in Nigeria?

The way in moving a country forward is not looking for the good aspects of it but looking for and solving those problems that is taking it backwards. That's what Ghanaians did and I guess it's one of the reasons their economy is looking better than ours.


If only so doing would be devoid of nepotism and partisanship where every cross-carpeter translates to a "Saint" with a pat at the back "Go and sin no more"

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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by apcisevil: 8:33am On Apr 23, 2017
Angel196:

Well for one they are trying really hard to fight the corruption which I'm sure everyone knows is the reason we are in this situation today instead of lying about corruption not being in Nigeria. If we can eradicate corruption from Nigeria completely then the toughest part of developing Nigeria is solved.
Why are you people making it seems as though living together should be by force? Are we prisoners in this one Nigeria?.... I don't do again, na by force?....don't one has right to chart his/her private course? See me, see wahala ooo

Besides, why do people like you so much love to live with your haters, those who want to kill you? Why

You are not yoruba, but as diabolical as you are, you hiding under yoruba name so the Igbos will accuse Yoruba Muslims of always fighting for their northern masters. ...you are a confirmed abooo...kiiii

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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by apcisevil: 8:55am On Apr 23, 2017
Angel196:
If that's what you feel. I seriously hope you don't all get a 'we told you so' in the future.

How did Ghana get rid of the people destroying them? If they made a rule that any leader guilty of corruption be killed just like China's, we the same people fighting for a better country would castigate them of making harsh laws.

Do you think at this stage corruption would be exempted from any new country any part of Nigeria decides to create? That would be naivety. But all the best to anyone who wants to create its own country.
Can diabolical people like you agree to kill people like tinubu and fashola while people like IBB, buhari, and likes in the north are immortalized? Will you agree Please, I no do again, no by force, I wonder why you all are so desperate for one Nigeria. ...can you all you take care of yourselves with igbos?

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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by Nobody: 9:31am On Apr 23, 2017
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Angel196:
One of the most popularly discussed topics on the Nigerian social media platform today is it's possible division. I hear it been discussed left and right and to be honest I'm sick and tired of it.

Should Biafra be allowed free reign as another country?

My opinion? I couldn't care less. I remain indifferent to these arguments. And I honestly don't know why they are stopping them. If they are so desperate to have their own country fine. Everyone is free to choose but no one is free from the consequences of their actions. There are always consequences from every action whether good or bad.

All I know is that, with or without them, Nigeria can and will still be great. In short there would be less pressure on resources and make it easier for Nigeria to get rid of corruption and monitor the country better.

No offence but you claim you want your own country and all yet you are found everywhere in Nigeria.

I read a post from an Igbo man today who said a lot of enlightening things about Biafra and how he didn't support the idea of it.https://www.nairaland.com/3753648/why-think-biafra-may-not
. But one thing with people is that they find it hard to see and accept the truth even if it drops from the sky and hits them on the face.

Nigeria in this critical stage have more important things to face than dividing their time and resources on things like this. If they want it so bad let them go and try their luck in building a country and see how 'easy' it is.

I pray for Nigeria and know there's hope for it.

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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by Nobody: 9:32am On Apr 23, 2017
Daft people everywhere. Myopic morons!

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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by Nobody: 9:34am On Apr 23, 2017
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Angel196:
Yes it isn't that easy, thank goodness you know that too. Have we ever really fought to eradicate corruption in the past before? We never cared enough to because we probably feel it didn't matter to our development. But the the truth is, it did and it does.

And Biafra wouldn't be free from corruption either cause it exists in their part too. Do you really think building a new country is easier than trying to fix the current one? Then I must say, you have a very difficult task ahead of you, which might even be harder than making Nigeria great.
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I thought this mkpuru amu did not care less,why all this wailing? Shallow people everywhere.

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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by Nobody: 9:43am On Apr 23, 2017
unclejb2:
After saying that you care less if Biafra divides, you turn around to give all types of frivolous reasons supported by another post on why Biafra will not succeed. Pls drink your hypocrisy from your toilet cistern. Biafra has turned to your greatest nightmare and it will soon become a "daymare"

Can you imagine o. Crass display of stupidity and hypocrisy.

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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by OjukwuWarBird: 9:55am On Apr 23, 2017
deedeedee1:
Madam, we cant kill corruption in nigeria. Why? Because we live in a indigenous ethnically diverse country. Everybody in nigeria is a tribalist(especially in terms of interest). We all will defend our tribesmen no matter how bad they are. Now let me give you an example: I am yoruba but imagine if osinbajo is the president of the country and he is charged with corruption, whereby he will have to resign from his positon or get impeached for the vp to take over. Now imagine if such vp to take place is not yoruba, will i support the impeachment of osinbajo even though there are evidences that he is corrupt? The answer is no!!! I definately wont!! Why? Because he is yoruba and i am also yoruba. Now if yoruba had their own country would osinbajo have the gods to steal money? Now this is why monoethnic countries have very little corruption. That is how igbo country will also look like.


You deserve a bottle of Orijin

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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by modik(m): 10:21am On Apr 23, 2017
deedeedee1:
Madam, we cant kill corruption in nigeria. Why? Because we live in a indigenous ethnically diverse country. Everybody in nigeria is a tribalist(especially in terms of interest). We all will defend our tribesmen no matter how bad they are. Now let me give you an example: I am yoruba but imagine if osinbajo is the president of the country and he is charged with corruption, whereby he will have to resign from his positon or get impeached for the vp to take over. Now imagine if such vp to take place is not yoruba, will i support the impeachment of osinbajo even though there are evidences that he is corrupt? The answer is no!!! I definately wont!! Why? Because he is yoruba and i am also yoruba. Now if yoruba had their own country would osinbajo have the gods to steal money? Now this is why monoethnic countries have very little corruption. That is how igbo country will also look like.

Point-blank. cool

Disgruntled political apologists won't understand this.

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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by PDJT: 10:28am On Apr 23, 2017
Angel196:


Seriously? So in other words Buhari is allowing killings just because it's done by his kinsmen? Really? I grew up in the north and this issue stated way before Buhari's administration. I left the north during Goodluck's regime because of none stop violence and killings between two tribes, none of which was Good luck's tribe. What can you say about that?

So why did you leave the North, instead of staying back to help solve the problem?

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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by Kemperor: 10:31am On Apr 23, 2017
Angel196:

Well for one they are trying really hard to fight the corruption which I'm sure everyone knows is the reason we are in this situation today instead of lying about corruption not being in Nigeria. If we can eradicate corruption from Nigeria completely then the toughest part of developing Nigeria is solved.

Fighting corruption since 1960

Fight against corruption is just politics...

If the government want to fight corruption then they should make strong laws like China... When a corrupt official is caught, the family will buy the bullet that will be used to kill him.. (Death by firing squad)...

How many corrupt officials has d present government imprisoned

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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by 7lives: 10:42am On Apr 23, 2017
A country where ethnic interest overides the national interest is not a country, any tribe that want out should be allowed.
I personally will not want lo live in a country where the same set of people keep drawing us back while pointing accusing fingers in another direction.
Is it not better for all of us to answer our fathers names and move at our own pace.
I remembered that Western Nigeria was setting the pace under Awolowo before the haters struck.
The most important thing for a country is the vision and the human resources, every other thing shall be added on to it.
Those of like minds too can also come together to form a country, i know the boundaries of Yoruba land, I AM NOT INTERESTED IN SOUTHERN NIGERIA.

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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by bosco2017: 12:14pm On Apr 23, 2017
7lives:
A country where ethnic interest overides the national interest is not a country, any tribe that want out should be allowed.
I personally will not want lo live in a country where the same set of people keep drawing us back while pointing accusing fingers in another direction.
Is it not better for all of us to answer our fathers names and move at our own pace.
I remembered that Western Nigeria was setting the pace under Awolowo before the haters struck.
The most important thing for a country is the vision and the human resources, every other thing shall be added on to it.
Those of like minds too can also come together to form a country, i know the boundaries of Yoruba land, I AM NOT INTERESTED IN SOUTHERN NIGERIA.

break up we are not one and can never be one

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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by Nobody: 12:43pm On Apr 23, 2017
philosophie:
split into 5



And by 5 you mean?
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by apcisevil: 12:57pm On Apr 23, 2017
Ekinematics:




And by 5 you mean?
Why can't people like you concentrate on their ethnic group? Is it by force to be together? Why are you people so desperate for one Nigeria?

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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by UncleJudax(m): 2:01pm On Apr 23, 2017
mikolo80:


so you can never succeed in Nigeria cuz your assertion


did PDP members steal or not. simple kweshion


nothing wrong with our institutions everything wrong with the operators
tell yourself what you want to hear. the institutions in Nigeria ....are faulty. the constitution is a huge clog.

Havent APC members stolen and still stealing from Nigerians. if there arent enough deterrents for severe corruption, whether APC, PDP or KOWA, there will be stealing.

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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by kasheemawo(m): 2:42pm On Apr 23, 2017
modik:


I guess you did not understand the question. What exactly has been working in Nigeria since independence?

Dissuade your mind from this administration so we can have an objective appraisal of an entity called Nigeria.
you didn't bring out all these questions during GEJ till 2019 slogan why all these sudden questions?
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by kasheemawo(m): 2:46pm On Apr 23, 2017
bosco2017:


break up we are not one and can never be one
we are not one and 40% of your people are in state like lagos,kano,Kaduna,rivers etc while 30% are awaiting execution in Indonesia, Thailand etc cheesy
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by modik(m): 2:51pm On Apr 23, 2017
kasheemawo:
you didn't bring out all these questions during GEJ till 2019 slogan why all these sudden questions?

I don't understand what you are talking about.

The truth remains that getting it right irrespective of who is on saddle guarantees perpetual succession of Nigeria. No tribal apology.
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by Angel196(f): 3:24pm On Apr 23, 2017
PDJT:


So why did you leave the North, instead of staying back to help solve the problem?

I left the north because I alone couldn't stop the problem and I didn't delude myself into thinking i could. Just one person can't make a difference where others aren't ready for it.

Yet I won't blame another person for the problem we cause as Nigerians are often good at. We don't like taking responsibilities for our actions, it is always easier to point fingers. When a man kills and he's caught, he blames the devil for it not himself. The Fulani herdsmen issue had started way before Buhari became the President but we'll still blame him anyways cause it would be positive to all our reasonings right?
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by Angel196(f): 3:35pm On Apr 23, 2017
apcisevil:

Can diabolical people like you agree to kill people like tinubu and fashola while people like IBB, buhari, and likes in the north are immortalized? Will you agree Please, I no do again, no by force, I wonder why you all are so desperate for one Nigeria. ...can you all you take care of yourselves with igbos?
If you didn't understand my post then read it again. I'm not desperate for one Nigeria, in fact they can breakup into 250 countries for all I care.

If those people were convicted and found guilty, let the law prevail. I won't fight for someone who doesn't really care about my well being.

Before you think I'm one of those people who fellow blindly let me tell you something. I'm not a northerner nor am I a blind Buhari follower. In 2013 my whole family voted for Good luck because we felt he had the better plan for us, didn't Buhari contested against him then?
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by Angel196(f): 4:10pm On Apr 23, 2017
apcisevil:

Why are you people making it seems as though living together should be by force? Are we prisoners in this one Nigeria?.... I don't do again, na by force?....don't one has right to chart his/her private course? See me, see wahala ooo

Besides, why do people like you so much love to live with your haters, those who want to kill you? Why

You are not yoruba, but as diabolical as you are, you hiding under yoruba name so the Igbos will accuse Yoruba Muslims of always fighting for their northern masters. ...you are a confirmed abooo...kiiii

I'm not doing anything because of my love for anyone.

I could careless about a one Nigeria and I'm honestly not sure why the government are trying to stop them. Anyone who wants his or her country should go and form it. If they think forming a new country even within a well made plan is easy, then I sincerely wish them the best of luck.

As for me being a Yoruba or not, I don't have to prove anything to anyone. If having a different point of view from you makes me a person from a different tribe, so be it. I won't defend my heritage because I don't have to.

I say my mind irrespective of my tribe or any other tribe that might get offended. I'm not against anyone creating their own country.

You think we don't have any problem when we question each others heritage just because we have different points of view. Is there a law that states that all people of the same tribe must think and reason in the same way, and anyone who dares to have a different points of view should give proofs of his lineage or better still is denouncing his heritage? What a mentality. And we think Nigeria is the problem. I give up.

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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by Angel196(f): 4:32pm On Apr 23, 2017
pchukwudi:
Good!

But for God to hear your prayer, you should learn to HONESTLY wish others well in their own noble endeavors and aspirations too.

God is a respecter of no man or woman. What you sow to others in your thoughts is likely what God will let happen in your personal space.

One more thing, God ditastes lying lips and hypocritical minds.

So if truly you care less, why open this thread?

Why make refrence to a nay sayer and assert his baseless assumptions as enlightening?

Why put "easy" in quotes when talking about the building of the new nation you claim to not care about?

God is not a Man. And he hates prayers that emanete from dishonest hearts.

Only witches and wizards impose their wills on others in the name of prayers.


One thing with our mentality is that, anyone who tells us the bitter truth is like our worst enemies.

So because I'm pointing out the truth makes me a dishonest and wicked person, it's all right.

When you tell someone not to start a new business without a good businesses plan, and you prepare and enlighten him that it might go wrong, they start seeing you as a devil against their success.

If you tell a child to read well for jamb else he'll fail. He'll start telling people that you're praying for his failure. When in all truth you are advising him and telling him the reality.

God sees my mind so I don't need to defend my intentions. One thing with us is that when we have a particular mindset, anyone trying to change it and give us a reality check is an enemy. Changing that mindset becomes tougher than pulling out a tooth with a bubble gum. We prefer to remain in our little dream fantasyland. Well there's no use anyways.

I'm not against Nigeria dividing or Nigeria remaining as one but I was trying to reason with people, I guess was an error in my part.
I won't try to reason anymore, I'll rather sit in a conner and watch.
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by Nobody: 7:03pm On Apr 23, 2017
Angel196:
One of the most popularly discussed topics on the Nigerian social media platform today is it's possible division. I hear it been discussed left and right and to be honest I'm sick and tired of it.

Should Biafra be allowed free reign as another country?

My opinion? I couldn't care less. I remain indifferent to these arguments. And I honestly don't know why they are stopping them. If they are so desperate to have their own country fine. Everyone is free to choose but no one is free from the consequences of their actions. There are always consequences from every action whether good or bad.

All I know is that, with or without them, Nigeria can and will still be great. In short there would be less pressure on resources and make it easier for Nigeria to get rid of corruption and monitor the country better.

You'll never read the ones that supports Biafra,all your tiny eyes could see is that which doesn't support Biafra.Madam hypocrite,as delusional as you are,tell me when Nigeria

No offence but you claim you want your own country and all yet you are found everywhere in Nigeria.

I read a post from an Igbo man today who said a lot of enlightening things about Biafra and how he didn't support the idea of it.https://www.nairaland.com/3753648/why-think-biafra-may-not
. But one thing with people is that they find it hard to see and accept the truth even if it drops from the sky and hits them on the face.

Nigeria in this critical stage have more important things to face than dividing their time and resources on things like this. If they want it so bad let them go and try their luck in building a country and see how 'easy' it is.

I pray for Nigeria and know there's hope for it.

Your tiny and half past four eyes won't allow you see anything that concurs with Biafra because the pupil in your eyes aren't properly aligned due to glycoma infection.What is your problem with people who don't want to be part of you?If truely you care less as you claimed in your useless post,you won't even talk about them let alone wasting your time having series of night mares about them.

You're so delusional to think Nigeria will ever be great,imagine your myopic mentality!How can a country whose sole objective is to subject a particular tribe to torture,maltreatment,wickedness etc progress.
What system has been put in place to make Nigeria progress,is it the feeding bottle partern of governance or the criminal and visionless leaders you churn out that'll make you great?

Madam,Nigeria has nothing to offer the Igbos that's why they want to leave.If you have nothing reasonable to say,just shut up and keep on praying for your Nigeria until rapture takes place.

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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by Nobody: 7:17pm On Apr 23, 2017
Angel196:
Yes it isn't that easy, thank goodness you know that too. Have we ever really fought to eradicate corruption in the past before? We never cared enough to because we probably feel it didn't matter to our development. But the the truth is, it did and it does.

And Biafra wouldn't be free from corruption either cause it exists in their part too. Do you really think building a new country is easier than trying to fix the current one? Then I must say, you have a very difficult task ahead of you, which might even be harder than making Nigeria great.

Why don't you let them make that choice and decision rather than compelling them to sink with one Nigeria.It's all tribes against the Igbos and they must surely prevail whether your type likes it or not.

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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by PDJT: 7:21pm On Apr 23, 2017
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Angel196:


I left the north because I alone couldn't stop the problem and I didn't delude myself into thinking i could. Just one person can't make a difference where others aren't ready for it.

Yet I won't blame another person for the problem we cause as Nigerians are often good at. We don't like taking responsibilities for our actions, it is always easier to point fingers. When a man kills and he's caught, he blames the devil for it not himself. The Fulani herdsmen issue had started way before Buhari became the President but we'll still blame him anyways cause it would be positive to all our reasonings right?
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-Gibberish!

-You couldn't stay in the North where you were born to assist and solve it's problem, yet you have the audacity to poke nose at those seeking their Freedom(survival) from the terrorist state called Nigeria, whilst still opining you 'care less" about Biafra?

-Have you heard of the word "Hypocrisy"?

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Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by Angel196(f): 7:41pm On Apr 23, 2017
PDJT:
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-Gibberish!

-You couldn't stay in the North where you were born to assist and solve it's problem, yet you have the audacity to poke nose at those seeking their Freedom(survival) from the terrorist state called Nigeria, whilst still opining you 'care less" about Biafra?

-Have you heard of the word "Hypocrisy"?

I see you taking it personal. Well okay, if that's how you feel good and fine.
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by Nobody: 7:45pm On Apr 23, 2017
MrMaestro:
I just want to know, according to these fools, what proof has been shown that any derivative of nigeria would be better than nigeria?

1. Nigeria has africa's largest economy.
2. Nigeria dominates africas film and multimedia industry
3. Nigeria dominates africa's music industry
4. Nigeria is producing many of africa's billionaires and millionaires.
5. Nigeria also has the largest middle class in africa

So my question is, give me factual, hard proof, that any Nigerian derivative would be better than nigeria in all of the ways listed. If not, just stop being stupid and blaming the federal government on your failures. I've seen more and more failures blame the government for why they're failures. And they will blame the new government if nigeria were to split. You don't like leaders? Vote them out, go to their office and ask them face to face why they're doing such a shit job. Do anything you want, but don't sit here and act like you're not the reason they're in office.

I've seen people turn into millionaires in the last 5 yrs in nigeria alone. There are a LOT of business and start up opporunities in Nigeria. Get off of your ass and work. The government isn't responsible for feeding you or making you successful, others are doing it in nigeria, why can't you? I'm sick of these crybabies and failures consistently blaming everyone else but themselves. As if our political leaders are kings that just walked into office unannounced.

You have a very poor reasoning ability.Who's talking about been greater than Nigeria here,we're only saying that a people needs their freedom and that's the only thing that matters to them,you're here spewing trash.Who ever told you that Nigeria is the greatest black African country?A country that can't fix federal roads,with very poor or no working educational system,poor or no social amenities and full of tribalism,injustice and nepotism.

South Africa generates more than 40,000 MW of electricity with a population of about 80 million people and your beloved Nigeria with her acclaimed population of more than 170 million people can't generate 4,000 MW.Isn't it a pure case of uselessness and stupidity?
Mr man,whether you like it or not,Nigeria remains a useless country both to her citizens and the world at large.
Re: For Or Against Nigeria's Possible Division? by Angel196(f): 7:53pm On Apr 23, 2017
nyben4eva:


Why don't you let them make that choice and decision rather than compelling them to sink with one Nigeria.It's all tribes against the Igbos and they must surely prevail whether your type likes it or not.

Where did I compel anyone to do anything? Pointing the truth out means compelling them? Huh guess I missed that memo.

All tribes against Igbo? What about Niger Delta people?

I'm not against anyone prevailing, I just pointed out that building a new country is not any less difficult than repairing an old one, which if you face it, is the truth.

Good luck to them and anyone else who wants his own country. I dey go watch elclassico.

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