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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:51pm On May 24, 2017
freshest4live:

OK and yet India has more advanced Technology, Economy and military than Kenya. The problem then is HDI which is usually a problem with all populated second and third world nations. All these do not make Kenya better than India or Botswana better than Kenya. India has a GDP of 2.074 trillion dollars to Kenya's 75 billion dollars but even that is not enough for them and they still struggle with electric power with Mumbai having many slums, yet Kenya still cannot claim to be more powerful than India in the eyes of the world.

So where would people rather live? The Indians come and stay, while Kenyans go and come back. The issue is who is the better society for the lives of people?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 1:54pm On May 24, 2017
TayserMahiri:


So where would people rather live? The Indians come and stay, while Kenyans go and come back. The issue is who is the better society for the lives of people?
If we judge by that standard alone then Kenya is not even top ten in Africa and even south africa is no eight.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:54pm On May 24, 2017
MtuMsuper:

Bantu expansion was one of the most epic movement of African people. It happened due to the human desire to expand and explore, but the major factor that pushed it on was the discovery of iron, and the weapons and tools that came with it. The Bantu expansion started in the middle to late iron age and went on till the arrival of the colonialists. Thus the Xhosa were still expanding by the time the whites arrived. With iron, they were able to grow more food with iron hoes (as opposed to wooden hoes) and make swords and spears to conquer or subdue new lands. If you study the mythology of many Bantu tribes you discover the existence of a mysterious small people who were invariably pygmy. Many of those pygmy tribes were either conquered, assimilated or annihilated. The were many waves and dispersals along the way, such that there are major difference in body types for example. The was a group that arrived in East Africa and encountered cushitic peoples from whom they learnt cattle keeping. Alot of the practises and vocabulary around cattle have cushitic origins. This group then spread south all the way to South Africa. This is why Bantus from Central Africa don't know much about or keep cattle.
Thanks for the detail.
Are kikuyu people Bantus?
Is Swahili Cushitic or Niger-Congo?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:55pm On May 24, 2017
freshest4live:

OK and yet India has more advanced Technology, Economy and military than Kenya. The problem then is HDI which is usually a problem with all populated second and third world nations. All these do not make Kenya better than India or Botswana better than Kenya. India has a GDP of 2.074 trillion dollars to Kenya's 75 billion dollars but even that is not enough for them and they still struggle with electric power with Mumbai having many slums, yet Kenya still cannot claim to be more powerful than India in the eyes of the world.
God gave you resources please use them wisely an stop blaming your predicament on other imaginery stuff.China is pulling hundreds of millions of its citizens from poverty do the same you got oil for pete's sake.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:59pm On May 24, 2017
freshest4live:

If we judge by that standard alone then Kenya is not even top ten in Africa and even south africa is no eight.

That means SA is better than Kenya. As mtis told you, use your resources well to lift the HDI. Population is a big resource and China is using it wisely
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 2:01pm On May 24, 2017
freshest4live:

OK and yet India has more advanced Technology, Economy and military than Kenya. The problem then is HDI which is usually a problem with all populated second and third world nations. All these do not make Kenya better than India or Botswana better than Kenya. India has a GDP of 2.074 trillion dollars to Kenya's 75 billion dollars but even that is not enough for them and they still struggle with electric power with Mumbai having many slums, yet Kenya still cannot claim to be more powerful than India in the eyes of the world.
Stop taking these people too seriously.Meanwhile indian's per capita is higher even with over 1bn people.I mean what does 45m people do with a $70bn economy.It's ridiculous and that's why it's a struggle for them here to defend that country.But i respect kenya for one thing;relatively stable power supply at least for those connected.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:08pm On May 24, 2017
obaaderemi:
Stop taking these people too seriously.Meanwhile indian's per capita is higher even with over 1bn people.I mean what does 45m people do with a $70bn economy.It's ridiculous and that's why it's a struggle for them here to defend that country.But i respect kenya for one thing;relatively stable power supply at least for those connected.
An thats whats wrong with Nigerians..You dont want to improve your HDI.You keep of talking of Higer GDP blah blah blah..get real..the whole essence of life is to live a comfortable life.No less no more...even if you take man to mars or pluto it does not matter as long as your people are living a pathetic life. period
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 2:25pm On May 24, 2017
obaaderemi:
Stop taking these people too seriously.Meanwhile indian's per capita is higher even with over 1bn people.I mean what does 45m people do with a $70bn economy.It's ridiculous and that's why it's a struggle for them here to defend that country.But i respect kenya for one thing;relatively stable power supply at least for those connected.
Lol l wonder o, even the south African population is about the same as that of Kenya, not so much difference, but southafrica has a GDP times five of that of Kenya.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 2:27pm On May 24, 2017
mtis:

An thats whats wrong with Nigerians..You dont want to improve your HDI.You keep of talking of Higer GDP blah blah blah..get real..the whole essence of life is to live a comfortable life.No less no more...even if you take man to mars or pluto it does not matter as long as your people are living a pathetic life. period
Do well to improve your HDI and income per capita over Seychelles and Mauritius as well, till then you are not in a position to advice Naija, lol.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:29pm On May 24, 2017
obaaderemi:
Stop taking these people too seriously. Meanwhile indian's per capita is higher even with over 1bn people. I mean what does 45m people do with a $70bn economy.It's ridiculous and that's why it's a struggle for them here to defend that country.But i respect kenya for one thing;relatively stable power supply at least for those connected.

Oga, who taught you Econ 101? You were obviously fooled that a bigger population is not an additional resource. You are simply trying to say that the largest economy in the world should have the least HDI. Brains are immeasurable resources, incomparable to oil and gold not to mention the market potential. India is very much expected to have a higher per capita than kenya and so is China and Nigeria. Meanwhile, they have both a higher HDI and per capita but nigeria? Only a higher per capita that obviously means not much
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:30pm On May 24, 2017
mtis:

An thats whats wrong with Nigerians..You dont want to improve your HDI.You keep of talking of Higer GDP blah blah blah..get real..the whole essence of life is to live a comfortable life.No less no more...even if you take man to mars or pluto it does not matter as long as your people are living a pathetic life. period
angry

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 2:34pm On May 24, 2017
freshest4live:

Do well to improve your HDI and income per capita over Seychelles and Mauritius as well, till then you are not in a position to advice Naija, lol.
it seems you are not getng it. bigger population can still perform better even with larger population. For example. Germany is more populated than uk and still hold a good HDI better than uk ,france in combine. Nigeria can perform better.she has a better chance than ghana and kenya in combine.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 2:39pm On May 24, 2017
vaxx:
it seems you are not getng it. bigger population can still perform better even with larger population. For example. Germany is more populated than uk and still hold a good HDI better than uk ,france in combine. Nigeria can perform better.she has a better chance than ghana and kenya in combine.
You can't compare the likes of Germany to formerly colonized African nations just 40-60year old, but you can however compare the nations to India and Brazil.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:40pm On May 24, 2017
CocoMilian:


Yes I do.... And yeah when it comes to good reputation no dispute about that. smiley

Mention kenya to any foreigner and they will immediately identify with the marathon grin I'm always shocked to hear how well they know about our athletes more than I even do but the best part is seeing the thrill in them when talking about here and wanting to visit...which they actually do.

Have you been to the lewa marathon? Running alongside with the wild animals?

I haven't been to the Lewa Marathon. Have you? I know it is spectacular to run with in the wild.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ababda: 2:46pm On May 24, 2017
9jakool:

I think they are more focused on their Arabization policies. The funny thing is that most Sudanese are black, a lot are even darker than most East and West Africans. There are 110 languages spoken in Sudan, but Arabic and English are the official with Arabic being widely spoken. Ironically Sudanese Arabs in Middle Eastern countries like Israel face racism for being dark-skinned while non-Arabs in Sudan also face discrimination by Sudanese Arabs. I think more open minded Sudanese Arabs tend to acknowledge their diverse ancestry or history more. Africa was never the Arab homeland, Arabs were from the Arabian peninsular, so any Arab from Africa is either a product of Arabization and or mixed.



Lets see the average "Sudanese"



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CwUYekLRDM



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzH_YUpW0pM



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpDQMqiT-F8&t=186s



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duTaW4Wb2v0


These are average Sudanese.

Lets get the facts clear most Sudanese do not go to Israel however the Sudanese that go to Israel is mainly from Darfur via Egypt and of course South Sudan. Most northern Sudanese usually go to places such as Dubai, Abu Dhabi, and Saudi, since Northern Sudanese has a establish community there in those countries. In fact it was the Sudanese community that basically set up the infrastructure there through the British government.


Here a link for the little information.


"The Sudanese community has been in the UAE since the late '60s and early '70s," said Salah el Din al Tayeb, the club secretary general. "The Sudanese were brought to the Trucial States by the British to manage the civil development of the different emirates. By the '70s and the formation of the UAE, the community grew and more doctors, officers and engineers were called to help build the UAE.

"That was the first exodus of Sudanese to the Gulf, and that small community congregated and socialised regularly until the club was set up.



http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-news/sudans-expats-still-club-together
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 3:02pm On May 24, 2017
freshest4live:

You can't compare the likes of Germany with formerly colonized African nations just 40-60year old, but you can however compare with India and Brazil.
by my understanding it seems you are blaming colonialism on nigeria ordeal. But this is almost 57 years after independence. Nigeria is old enough to stand on its feat. Why should you look up to brasil or india. Why not south korea a colony of japan. South korea owns a significant population with a very good HDI now better than japan. This nigeria population is enough to be turn to strenght. This is what canada is looking for.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 3:03pm On May 24, 2017
Jay254:


You seems to know but you blinding your fellow brothers here..

From the list the below buildings are already complete but you have left them out delibarately..
Number 3,6,8,10,11,12,plus Lemarc and Teleposta which were left out..Clearly that bring the number of skyscrapers in Nairobi to 8 and not 5...

UON does not produce scammers like you


Jay254:


I belive you are the most pathetic and dishonest person to reason with.. You reduce the number of high rise in Nairobi from 108 complete to 72 and increase for lagos from 72 to 126...


Do you still believe Nairobi has 108 highrises? grin

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 3:08pm On May 24, 2017
forgiveness:






Do you still believe Nairobi has 108 highrises? grin

Ofcoz by now we are past that... Nairobi is on steroids..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 3:13pm On May 24, 2017
Isahalbash:


The states u aforementioned are oil producing states, they r oil companies which r mostly owned by d whites. Will u expect such a place not to develop? Besides, why did u exclude Bayelsa and Ebonyi states? Most of d places dat r developed r where oil firms r present. They r many places dat r not developed at all in does states u listed, even in ph despites, all d monies, a place like elche is a no go area. Apart from 2-3 places ph city inclusive, other places has notin to rite abt. Same goes to daz states like Kano, Zaria, ilorin etc in fact, Zaria Na village ful of mud houses. Kano city is d only place developed in Kano, d oda LGAs outside Kano city No beta pass nguru, Hadejia and gashua.



Lagos is d only place that I knw is uniformly developing and mayb Ogun, Ibadan.


Sure, d North x lagging behind d South in terms of everything apart from Quranic recitation and populationgrin

To be sincerely speaking, d SS/SE r not better despite dere high literacy rate and exposures. Many people frm dat part of d con3 r trooping into Lagos everyday. They r even claiming of developing Lagos in detriment ov dere own states dat nid it most.


A Kanuri man will Neva identify himself as a Hausa no matter what. I only know about Kanuri courses at unimaid, besides, I don't live in d north.


I tink, u can only make comparism wit place like Lagos cox of dere similitudes.

You are quite correct.

So, where do you live?

You cannot expect every part of a state in Nigeria to be urbanized. Will u? This is Africa.
A state like Kano is ok if you ask me, i heard that Kano urban area currently occupies 10 out of the 44 LGAs of the state and it is rapidly expanding.

Yes, it can also be said that oil is a factor of development of the SS areas.
Ebonyi and Bayelsa state capitals are not that bad believe me. As young states they are developing somehow better than their northern counterparts.

Abakaliki can compare Sokoto and Minna cities in terms of development and Ebonyi is just about 20 years old while Niger and Sokoto states are about 40 years old or more.

Many SS/SE people are now trying to reverse the trend of investing everything in Lagos and have started investing more at home.
Can this really be said of northerners?? Though i think the lower literacy and exposure rates in the north is one setback.

Have you noticed that more northerners are increasingly migrating to the south these days? Unlike vice versa in the past.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ababda: 3:19pm On May 24, 2017
These are the Sudanese you will see in Israel mainly from Darfur or South Sudan.

A picture of a South Kordofan (sudan) or South Sudanese wedding in Israel.










Those are the picture above that goes to Israel, which is unfortunately.


These people below usually go to the arab countries



[img]https://hxreport.files./2014/09/img_6509_2.jpg[/img]


[img]https://hxreport.files./2014/09/img_6551.jpg[/img]




[img]https://hxreport.files./2014/09/img_6524.jpg?w=768[/img]
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 9jakool: 3:20pm On May 24, 2017
Muafrika2:

That is the other angle to the Northern Sudan V/S Southern Sudan war. The Southern tribes say the north belongs to them and the Arabs were just traders who took over their land. its a huge point of discontent even with forming the nation of South Sudan amongst the southern tribes. Some say the war should never stop and their goal is the North.
Yes, According to history, the Arabs came as merchants to the area, but over time they mixed with the local Nubians and that's how you get Sudanese Arabs. Some clans are pure Arabs and some are pure Nubians.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 9jakool: 3:21pm On May 24, 2017
fanficgirl:

You make this thread worthwhile
Anytime, Anywhere!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 3:23pm On May 24, 2017
Shaytun:
Heck even addis ababa is better than the slum city.

Will choose ababa over tjat shit you call a city anytime, anyday.

The Ethiopian government wants to do two things at once. Ridding the capital city Addis Ababa of its slums, and providing housing for three million inhabitants of the capital.
The main slums in Addis must become the business center of the Ethiopian capital, but slum dwellers do not like the idea. The municipal had given them a month to clear out of their homes and they have complained that they had been forcefully removed.
For the authorities however, whose objective is to raise Ethiopia among the middle-income countries by 2025 – a gross national income (GNI) per capita above $ 1,000 – the revamp is also designed to create a middle class homeowners, less prone to anti-government protests.

http://www.africanews.com/2016/10/30/ethiopia-slums-in-the-city-center-slowly-disappearing//


It's so obvious that Ethiopia is on the right track to fully take over as the giant of East Africa.
Kenya will be displaced in no time.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:25pm On May 24, 2017
9jakool:

Yes, According to history, the Arabs came as merchants to the area, but over time they mixed with the local Nubians and that's how you get Sudanese Arabs. Some clans are pure Arabs and some are pure Nubians.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 3:25pm On May 24, 2017
vaxx:
by my understanding it seems you are blaming colonialism on nigeria ordeal. But this is almost 57 years after independence. Nigeria is old enough to stand on its feat. Why should you look up to brasil or india. Why not south korea a colony of japan. South korea owns a significant population with a very good HDI now better than japan. This nigeria population is enough to be turn to strenght. This is what canada is looking for.
Yes you cannot speak about Africa without colonialism, it is myopic to do that. The nations you compare Nigeria with today are benefactors of the then civilized Greece and Roman Empires together with Christianity. Even at that, they had millenials of dark ages, fought many wars and learnt from them, then colonized Africa via looting. Colonalism is everything because it takes time to grow. What about Ghana the gold coast? It shouldn't be where it is today.
Take a look at the African francophone nations, in my opinion most are still indirectly colonized much more than English speaking African countries. The British left us with almost nothing, gave the Northerners power without education. You have to consider all these while speaking of Nigeria and her problems or growth else you'll be in the danger of a single story.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 9jakool: 3:26pm On May 24, 2017
PissedYagami:

South Sudanese are very dark, its their characteristic. And they can be very tall. n the case of some Sudanese tribes, males can have an average height of 1.9 m (6 ft, 4in) (!), while women of 1.8 m (6 ft) (!). These people have slim but strong bodies, and their heads are more elongated than in the case of the typical African Blacks. Not all are tall though but averagely they are very tall. The most famous group and more racially preserved of the Sudanese race are the Nilotic tribes (they all originated on the Upper Nile area). The most famous are Maasai(Kenya), Turkana(Kenya), Samburu(Kenya) and Dinka(South Sudan), whose main occupation is animal husbandry. Ancient (and modern) Nubians, the Black Pharaohs, were also of Sudanese race. When the French met this race of giants (in Chad tribes), they called them "the beautiful race".
Yes! Seeing that the Kalenjin are also Nilotic, it's fair to say that that Nilotic people are also very athletic.
That's the diversity of Africa. You also have Khoisan people who are considered the oldest present-day people on Earth having been around for 200,000 years and being cut off for 100,000 years.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:27pm On May 24, 2017
Nowenuse:


It's so obvious that Ethiopia is on the right track to fully take over as the giant of East Africa.
Kenya will be displaced in no time.
Real threat. Ethiopians are definitely a giant waking up grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 3:27pm On May 24, 2017
ababda:
These are the Sudanese you will see in Israel mainly from Darfur or South Sudan.

A picture of a South Kordofan (sudan) or South Sudanese wedding in Israel.










Those are the picture above that goes to Israel, which is unfortunately.


These people below usually go to the arab countries



[img]https://hxreport.files./2014/09/img_6509_2.jpg[/img]


[img]https://hxreport.files./2014/09/img_6551.jpg[/img]




[img]https://hxreport.files./2014/09/img_6524.jpg?w=768[/img]


Are u a sudanese arab?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 3:27pm On May 24, 2017
Nowenuse:


It's so obvious that Ethiopia is on the right track to fully take over as the giant of East Africa.
Kenya will be displaced in no time.
You are right, even in military might Ethiopia is awesome.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 3:30pm On May 24, 2017
Jay254:


You seems to know but you blinding your fellow brothers here..

From the list the below buildings are already complete but you have left them out delibarately..
Number 3,6,8,10,11,12,plus Lemarc and Teleposta which were left out..Clearly that bring the number of skyscrapers in Nairobi to 8 and not 5...

UON does not produce scammers like you

10 & 11, Do you mean Prism Tower and Parliamentary Tower are completed? grin

Bhuuuhahaha! You brother said he doesn't want uncompleted buildings hence the need to strike them off the list. It's not my fault, he demanded for it.

Did you tell me about Teleposta Tower? But I searched for it and included it on the list. grin

Show me the height of LéMac Tower on Emporis even other site proved LéMac Tower is 98m. grin

It is right, I strike it out of the list. grin

Man, as you can see, I have done no wrong. grin

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ababda: 3:31pm On May 24, 2017
9jakool:

Yes, According to history, the Arabs came as merchants to the area, but over time they mixed with the local Nubians and that's how you get Sudanese Arabs. Some clans are pure Arabs and some are pure Nubians.

Most Sudanese are "Nile Valley" people. Yes, some arabs and in some cases Turkish people mixed, but it is not the majority. Most northern Sudanese are indistinguishable from many people from the horn, and Upper Egypt. If you look at the Christian frescoes it still resemble the vast majority of the people.

This is before islam became the dominant religion, you will see these Christian frescoes at the second floor of the national museum in Khartoum















Sudanese reporter BBC Zeineb Badawi








Your last statement i never heard a South Sudanese say that, if the country in the north supposedly belong to them why did they overwhelmingly voted for separation?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ababda: 3:32pm On May 24, 2017
Nowenuse:


Are u a sudanese arab?



I don't consider myself "Arab", i just consider myself Sudanese, and that is about it. However i grew up outside of Sudan.

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