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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Fact Don't Lie) by Avalon316: 8:19am On Sep 04, 2016
Kenyan women are sexier than Nigerian women.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Fact Don't Lie) by TonyeBarcanista(m): 8:20am On Sep 04, 2016
usbcable:


your title says "in all aspects" you listed only health and tourism.

As for the ICT, note that MOBILE MONEY is not a same as ICT. Nigeria is far ahead of Kenya in MOBILE BANKING as against MOBILE MONEY.

MOBILE MONEY thrives in kenya due to the absence of Commercial Banking infrastructure and integration of ePayment channels (MOBILE BANKING, ATM, POS, ONLINE PAYMENT GATEWAYS). These however is in advanced stages in Nigeria..

Nigeria is ahead of Kenya as a technology hub
You have started. in what way is Nigeria ahead of Kenya? stop this chest beating and present fact.

is it security? power? economy? infrastructure? technology? leadership?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Fact Don't Lie) by MutantMetahuman: 8:23am On Sep 04, 2016
So mortality rate and tourism means they are better than you...

What of millions of other aspects that Nigeria trumped them..

A Nigeria economy I recession still trumps that of Kenya.. Kenya GDP is not up to that of Lagos.

What kind of ediots do I share my country with for fhuck sake.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Fact Don't Lie) by pazienza(m): 8:24am On Sep 04, 2016
Nigeria is a failed state.

I'd rather be a Kenyan than a Nigerian.
Kenya is light years ahead of Nigeria. cool

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Fact Don't Lie) by TonyeBarcanista(m): 8:26am On Sep 04, 2016
ruggedtimi:
kenya no dey west africa...bro
Where did you see your West Africa?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Fact Don't Lie) by usbcable(m): 8:29am On Sep 04, 2016
TonyeBarcanista:

You have started. in what way is Nigeria ahead of Kenya? stop this chest beating and present fact.

is it security? power? economy? infrastructure? technology? leadership?
Bros,

Na you talk say "in all aspects".

And I refuted you claim on ICT. You misjudged mobile MONEY as ICT in which the other leg of mobile BANKING we are even better off than Kenya.

SECURITY
POWER
ECONOMY
INFRASTRUCTURE

you did not say anything on those so I wont respond MUCH.

As per security we have BH and they have al-shabaaab and BTW BH and even NDA are now under control unlike al-shabaab.

you are btter off at digging stats so help out with stats that show they are better off at POWER, ECONOMY and INFRASTRUCTURE.

P.S
check upstairs someone showed the per capita GDP of both countries and we still TRUMPED grin them

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Fact Don't Lie) by usbcable(m): 8:30am On Sep 04, 2016
bros you make that small mistake ooo. check your write up again
TonyeBarcanista:

Where did you see your West Africa?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Fact Don't Lie) by pazienza(m): 8:32am On Sep 04, 2016
[b] Mombasa Republican Council (MRC) is a separatist organisation[1] based in the coastal city of Mombasa, Kenya.[2] The group claims areas around Mombasa and the coastal area. It has both Muslim and Christian supporters.[3]

History Edit

The Mombasa Republican Council was formed in 1999 to address perceived political and economic discrimination against the people of the coast province.[4] The group traces its secession claims to the 1895 and 1963 agreements transferring the ten-mile strip of land along the coast to the Government of Kenya from Zanzibar. Some critics characterize these British agreements as a form of bribery designed to facilitate colonization of the interior. The group contests these agreements as invalid, because they were enacted without the consent of coastal stakeholders, and says the state of Kenya has failed to honor the provisions designed to protect the coastal population.[5]

Secession claims Edit

The Mombasa Republican Council was dormant until 2008, when it first raised claims that Mombasa should secede from Kenya to become an independent state. They argued that secession would liberate the people of the coast province from marginalization by the successive governments in Kenya. The slogan they are using is Pwani Si Kenya ("The Coast is not Kenya"wink.[6] In response, the government declared the group to be an illegal organization, together with another 33 groups.[6]

Mombasa Republican Council contested the government's decision in the court. The high court of Mombasa lifted the ban and ruled that claiming the group was illegal was [/b]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mombasa_Republican_Council

Well, turned out the Kenya are terrorists too. Forcing unity on the coastal state of Mombasa.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Fact Don't Lie) by TonyeBarcanista(m): 8:33am On Sep 04, 2016
MutantMetahuman:
So mortality rate and tourism means they are better than you...

What of millions of other aspects that Nigeria trumped them..

A Nigeria economy I recession still trumps that of Kenya.. Kenya GDP is not up to that of Lagos.

What kind of ediots do I share my country with for fhuck sake.
Nigeria inflation rate is 17.5% while Kenya is 6.26%. Nigeria barely produce anything while Kenya is a producing country.

Nigeria's only saving grace is "Oyel" which we can't even manage. BTW our GDP went up when oil price went up, but it has nothing to do with our production capacity as a country.


Oil is a free gift of nature.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Fact Don't Lie) by MutantMetahuman: 8:35am On Sep 04, 2016
TonyeBarcanista:

Nigeria inflation rate is 17.5% while Kenya is 6.26%. Nigeria barely produce anything while Kenya is a producing country.

Nigeria's only saving grace is "Oyel" which we can't even manage. BTW our GDP went up when oil price went up, but it has nothing to do with our production capacity as a country.


Oil is a free gift of nature.
inflation rate changes all the time...

Entire Kenya has 52billion dollars economy,
Lagos state alone has 92biliion dollars..

Don't let self hate kill you.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Fact Don't Lie) by pazienza(m): 8:36am On Sep 04, 2016
Kenya even have their own version of Kanu Nnamdi, their government arrested.


http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0I41WX20141015

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Fact Don't Lie) by usbcable(m): 8:36am On Sep 04, 2016
ECONOMY
@TONYEBARCANISTA

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Fact Don't Lie) by MutantMetahuman: 8:37am On Sep 04, 2016
usbcable:

Bros,

Na you talk say "in all aspects".

And I refuted you claim on ICT. You misjudged mobile MONEY as ICT in which the other leg of mobile BANKING we are even better off than Kenya.

SECURITY
POWER
ECONOMY
INFRASTRUCTURE

you did not say anything on those so I wont respond MUCH.

As per security we have BH and they have al-shabaaab and BTW BH and even NDA are now under control unlike al-shabaab.

you are btter off at digging stats so help out with stats that show they are better off at POWER, ECONOMY and INFRASTRUCTURE.

P.S
check upstairs someone showed the per capita GDP of both countries and we still TRUMPED grin them
its really irritating ..


All these self hate Cos buhari is ruling..

It is As if buhari will rule forever to them.


I just don't get it.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Fact Don't Lie) by pazienza(m): 8:37am On Sep 04, 2016
Finally, Kenya is another Zoo, but it is a better managed Zoo.

If Mombasa people secedes, the entire Kenya becomes a landlocked country. Just like Eritrea did to Ethiopia.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Fact Don't Lie) by MutantMetahuman: 8:42am On Sep 04, 2016
usbcable:
ECONOMY
@TONYEBARCANISTA
do you know that Lagos economy is bigger than 3 west African country combined..

Ghana, Cameroon and Togo.


These mor0ns never appreciate what they have because awusa is ruling them.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Fact Don't Lie) by TonyeBarcanista(m): 8:46am On Sep 04, 2016
MutantMetahuman:
inflation rate changes all the time...

Entire Kenya has 52billion dollars economy,
Lagos state alone has 92biliion dollars..

Don't let self hate kill you.
usbcable:
ECONOMY
@TONYEBARCANISTA
It is even a shame that you are using GDP(Gross Domestic Product) when 75% of our GDP contribution can be attributed to oil under the soil. Even at that we lack Infrastructure, Highly indebted, poor health system, foreign and local investors are running away, poor security, and Very HIGH INFLATION of 17%. Nigeria don't even have National Carrier and import everything including TOOTHPICK. We can't boast of power nor feed our people.

Meanwhile, Kenyans are producers that rakes money through leadership, has good infrastructure (relative), nice money spinning tourism etc

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Fact Don't Lie) by usbcable(m): 8:46am On Sep 04, 2016
MILITARY
@Tonyebarcanista

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Fact Don't Lie) by usbcable(m): 8:49am On Sep 04, 2016
TonyeBarcanista:


It is even a shame that you are using GDP(Gross Domestic Product) when 75% of our GDP contribution can be attributed to oil under the soil. Even at that we lack Infrastructure, Highly indebted, poor health system, foreign and local investors are running away, poor security, and Very HIGH INFLATION of 17%. Nigeria don't even have National Carrier and import everything including TOOTHPICK. We can't boast of power nor feed our people.

Meanwhile, Kenyans are producers that rakes money through leadership, has good infrastructure (relative), nice money spinning tourism etc

common man,

lets play fair here.
you asked for facts and as far as I could I am trying to do what you do best PRESENT FACTS.

so far you have not shown any stats showing that Kenya has better economoy than Nigeria. National Carrier is not the yard stick bro.

we have (I believe) more local airlines plying our airspace than Kenya does--correct me if am wrong.

as per infrastructure... i never see your stats oo

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Fact Don't Lie) by usbcable(m): 8:51am On Sep 04, 2016
MutantMetahuman:
do you know that Lagos economy is bigger than 3 west African country combined..

Ghana, Cameroon and Togo.


These mor0ns never appreciate what they have because awusa is ruling them.

I never liked the tweet war at all. it seemed silly to me.
But I still dont know the grouse of Kenya against Nigeria.

it pained more when fellow Nigerians joined in abusing their fatherland.
As much as I understand the pains of the present FG your homeland remains your homeland.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Fact Don't Lie) by MutantMetahuman: 8:53am On Sep 04, 2016
TonyeBarcanista:


It is even a shame that you are using GDP(Gross Domestic Product) when 75% of our GDP contribution can be attributed to oil under the soil. Even at that we lack Infrastructure, Highly indebted, poor health system, foreign and local investors are running away, poor security, and Very HIGH INFLATION of 17%. Nigeria don't even have National Carrier and import everything including TOOTHPICK. We can't boast of power nor feed our people.

Meanwhile, Kenyans are producers that rakes money through leadership, has good infrastructure (relative), nice money spinning tourism etc
liar...

GDP contribution came mostly from entertainment , services etc according to madam okonjo..
Now that oil is dead, why are we still ahead in GDP if its all about oil?

South Africa over taking Nigeria is in dollars not real actual GDP..

Now tell us... Apart from mortality, which is my slight margin, which other aspect is Kenya better than Nigeria?

Infrastructure, can you compare what is present in Nigeria to that of Kenya?

Health and the rest, tell me how Kenya is better than you in all those aspects that matter?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Fact Don't Lie) by TonyeBarcanista(m): 8:57am On Sep 04, 2016
usbcable:


common man,

lets play fair here.
you asked for facts and as far as I could I am trying to do what you do best PRESENT FACTS.

so far you have not shown any stats showing that Kenya has better economoy than Nigeria. National Carrier is not the yard stick bro.

we have (I believe) more local airlines plying our airspace than Kenya does--correct me if am wrong.

as per infrastructure... i never see your stats oo
I am giving you verifiable data. Nigeria's GDP is due to Petrodollar contribution to our economy, and even at that we can't even boast of the benefit on Nigerians or even our economy. In other words, though we were freely given OYEL wealth, we are still very poor while some few elite Rich. We lack basic amenities and infrastructure. Most Nigerians can't boast of light and water. We rake in $billion through Oil annually but because we lack infrastructure, plan or management, nothing can point to it.

Ideally, Nigeria should be competing with countries like RSA, Bahrain, Brunei etc. But we are in a league of South Sudan.

Even our currency is lower than Kenya's (a testament of their performing economy). Our Naira is chasing Zimbabwean dollar.

But compared with Kenya...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Fact Don't Lie) by usbcable(m): 9:03am On Sep 04, 2016
TonyeBarcanista:

I am giving you verifiable data. Nigeria's GDP is due to Petrodollar contribution, and even at that we can't even boast of the benefit on Nigerians or even our economy. In other words, though we were freely given OYEL wealth, we are still very poor while some few elite Rich. We lack basic amenities and infrastructure. Most Nigerians can't boast of light and water. We rake in $billion through Oil annually but because we lack infrastructure, plan or management, nothing can point to it.

Ideally, Nigeria should be competing with countries like RSA, Bahrain, Brunei etc. But we are in a league of South Sudan.

Even our currency is lower than Kenya's (a testament of their performing economy). Our Naira is chasing Zimbabwean dollar.

But compared with Kenya...

if the argument is around we shouldnt be talking of Kenya but far more uplooking countries I wont argue that then.

we are quite truely under performing but that still does not mean that Kenya is better off "in all aspects". At least to the best of my internet ability I have shown 3 points we are far better than them.

as per petro-dollar, You cant discountenance it. simply because it is part of it. why would we remove it since its our source of revenue.

Kenya last I checked is not as diversified too.
they also lack basic amenities too.
as per our currency we all now where our problem is coming from-over dependence on imported stuffs. this hopefully will change someday

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Fact Don't Lie) by Bluetooth2: 9:09am On Sep 04, 2016
TonyeBarcanista:
This is not about the Presidency or leadership, it is about individuals, it is about our values and our goal. Is there a reward in disrespecting others that are clearly doing better than us? We have a serios problem

Yes there is a problem with it the same way an average american and even the American government will never accept the superiority of china in all ramifications!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Fact Don't Lie) by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:15am On Sep 04, 2016
usbcable:


if the argument is around we shouldnt be talking of Kenya but far more uplooking countries I wont argue that then.

we are quite truely under performing but that still does not mean that Kenya is better off "in all aspects". At least to the best of my internet ability I have shown 3 points we are far better than them.

as per petro-dollar, You cant discountenance it. simply because it is part of it. why would we remove it since its our source of revenue.

Kenya last I checked is not as diversified too.
they also lack basic amenities too.
as per our currency we all now where our problem is coming from-over dependence on imported stuffs. this hopefully will change someday
Kenya may not have ALL necessary basic Amenities but they outclass Nigeria in that Head-to-Head. Do you have electricity for a start? How many globally recognised ICT firms has HQ in Nigeria? Do you have technology? Do you have good roads? We can't even take care of our own IDPs despite our revenue but Kenya has over a million refugees from Somalia and South Sudan. Even our sportsmen couldn't get enough support but Kenya sportsmen don't have reasons to beg on the internet.


Meanwhile, while Nigeria is killing over a simple thing such as devolution of power, Kenya decentralized power(weakened center) in 2010 and since then they haven't looked back in terms of progress. Nigeria isn't progressing while Kenya of 2015 is better than Kenya of 2014 or 2010.

We have potential but we need to realise that we are the disgrace of Africa as at now.


By the way I said Nigeria was "supposed" to be in the league of KSA(when we look at oil wealth) but we are now in the league of South Sudan.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Fact Don't Lie) by Puvour: 9:18am On Sep 04, 2016
Your opinion Mr.
You are entitled to it.
Economy in general; ICT, Trade and Commerce, Nollywood Showbiz Entertainment and related services (clubs), Hospitality (hotels and restaurants), Banking and Insurance, Mass media, Real Estate, are areas where Nigeria is doing far better than Kenya in absolute terms.
The statistics you quoted all have to do with average and even when Nigeria becomes much better, we will continue to be lagging in those aspects for many years to come simply because of our population. Doesn't necessarily mean we are not better.
We however still have a long way to go in relation to where we could possibly be. And trust me, that "where" should scare(not in a bad way) the hell out of other African countries.
PS : Did you know even with our "low" manufacturing output, Nigeria still has the third highest in Africa only rivaled by SA and Egypt?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Fact Don't Lie) by FTBOY: 9:18am On Sep 04, 2016
Beremx:
Nigeria is a big for nothing country. A very useless country where nothing works.

God punish our leaders!!
shame on you, madam.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Fact Don't Lie) by MduZA: 9:19am On Sep 04, 2016
1 Mombasa Kenya
2 Abuja nigeria

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Fact Don't Lie) by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:23am On Sep 04, 2016
Bluetooth2:


Yes there is a problem with it the same way an average american and even the American government will never accept the superiority of china in all ramifications!
China is not superior to America, China only has higher production than America chiefly due to cheap labour.

However, the average American earn more than the average Chinese, he has good environment and all basic things of life INCLUDING luxury.


But you won't see them eFight. Americans are their own BIGGEST critics.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Fact Don't Lie) by FTBOY: 9:28am On Sep 04, 2016
tonyebarcanista, i was almost enjoying this piece (where you stated we ought not fight each other, but uphold our african unity) until you started the comparisons.
what now made you different from the saboteurs taking sides with kenyans against nigeria? try speaking with one voice and stop being a man of double standard..
happy sunday..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Fact Don't Lie) by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:34am On Sep 04, 2016
Puvour:
Your opinion Mr.
You are entitled to it.
Economy in general; ICT, Trade and Commerce, Nollywood Showbiz Entertainment and related services (clubs), Hospitality (hotels and restaurants), Banking and Insurance, Mass media, Real Estate, are areas where Nigeria is doing far better than Kenya in absolute terms.
The statistics you quoted all have to do with average and even when Nigeria becomes much better, we will continue to be lagging in those aspects for many years to come simply because of our population. Doesn't necessarily mean we are not better.
We however still have a long way to go in relation to where we could possibly be. And trust me, that "where" should scare(not in a bad way) the hell out of other African countries.
PS : Did you know even with our "low" manufacturing output, Nigeria still has the third highest in Africa only rivaled by SA and Egypt?
Which population? is Nigeria the most populated in the world? Are we up to Indonesia in population? Are we up to Brazil? Aren't these countries MILES ahead of us despite we showing great signs in the 60s more than them?

USA is far populated than UK and Russia but are those countries better than USA?

Germany is more populated than Spain or Portugal, but are they better than Germany?

Truth is Nigeria is lagging behind and in the least ebb in the Committee of nations. We have the potential to be great but we are not great yet.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Fact Don't Lie) by Puvour: 9:35am On Sep 04, 2016
MduZA:
1 Mombasa Kenya
2 Abuja nigeria
Lmao. Answer this yourself. How more biased could you be with this picture post?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Fact Don't Lie) by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:38am On Sep 04, 2016
FTBOY:
tonyebarcanista, i was almost enjoying this piece (where you stated we ought not fight each other, but uphold our african unity) until you started the comparisons.
what now made you different from the saboteurs taking sides with kenyans against nigeria? try speaking with one voice and stop being a man of double standard..
happy sunday..
The message is we should fix our problems and stop this chestbeating attitude on social media when as a country we are suffering and living below par kind of lifestyle.

I am a Nigerian, no doubt about it. We have serious problem, we must be our own biggest critics till we fix our problems instead of eFighting fellow Africans that are faring better.

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