freshest4live:

Yes read the article carefully, it says ECOWAS cannot go into it without the signature of regional powerhouse Nigeria. In another place it clearly says that ECOWAS would not be strong enough to go into the deal without Nigeria, and the deal would have to be dissolved, just because it is without one country's signature, the failed state for that matter.

no it says there agreement is a bloc to bloc agreement and must be ractify by all members of ECowas as a bloc. Even Togo can hold it up if they dont ractify the agreement

Legonviking:


Let come out from the ghost mode.

It will be very wrong to opine that GH went down in the 90s.On the the contrary it was in the 90s that the country started to show progress after years of decay.The Acheampong era in the 70s witnessed a massive decay in the country and prolonged into the 80s.
The early part of the Rawlings era saw Ghana experiencing a major drought and scarcity of essential commodities

You must be Ghanaian.The rot of the Rawlings years sent many Ghanaians to Nigeria.I grew up with Ghanaians in Ibadan.Ghana and Nigeria are joined at the waist.At times I don't understand the rivalry between our two countries.

NairobiWalker:


Unfortunately this unforgivable fool is one of a kind. He argues to win. lol. Dude can argue over something so obvious.

Must you insult someone to prove your point?

NairobiWalker:


These people are obsessed with GDP figures that get overly exaggerated especially in mining countries. Visit Sudan that has thrice Rwanda's GDP per capita and compare the living standards then you'll know some of these figures are crap.

Nigeria's HDI was largely affected by the decades of military rule.
We are not so much perturbed about HDI, because it is sometimes unrealistic. And we also know that larger countries are always at a disadvantage when it comes to HDI.

NairobiWalker:


When this Nonsense boy gives you accolades, take it as an insult rather than appraise. In fact it is sure proof you IQ range is of a clever monkey.

Kiberawalker, just shut up and behave like a civilized human for once, will you?

forgiveness:


Hahahahahah! I am not but somehow I was in that line.

Atleast, the decerning minds like you will not be deceived by these guys.

Abi oo, tuale for u sha.

TayserMahiri:


So wats the language of instruction in schools in Sudan? I heard the Dj speak English and the crowd seemed to understand what he was saying. There were even English songs!

The official language in Sudan is "Arabic". Although English is also a official but it is rarely taught in the village level in local schools, but you may find some people here in there in some villages that may speak english. Most learn english in secondary school or some well off people send their kids to private or international school. They also have schools in Khartoum that teach a multitude of different languages, and since they are trying to attract people to visit things such as these
















[img]https://eesamarawestexpedition.files./2015/08/aw-pict-38-39-a182.jpg[/img]






Dinder national park



Port Sudan














so this can create jobs, and needed income with more tourist which means more people that can communicate in a multitude of different languages. Due to the Sudan bad image we get far less tourist than our neighbor in both Egypt and Ethiopia, but it is starting to increase gradually, but we have to market it right. It is like we have tourist elements of both North and Sub Saharan Africa, i think the combinations make it a unique travel experience. We should make port Sudan very tourist friendly like the Egyptians did for the Sinai.

Legonviking:


Let come out from the ghost mode.

It will be very wrong to opine that GH went down in the 90s.On the the contrary it was in the 90s that the country started to show progress after years of decay.The Acheampong era in the 70s witnessed a massive decay in the country and prolonged into the 80s.
The early part of the Rawlings era saw Ghana experiencing a major drought and scarcity of essential commodities

school of thought. do you know that Ghana had More millionaires in achempobg time than in Rawlings. this is not to criticize​ the house cleaning exercise but I think was a lot of witch hunting that could have been avoided in the process. there were great Ghanaian owned companies that should have been sustained till now. am talking about the likes of rothmans cigrattes, the first cigratte company in West Africa.I bet people dont know that this brand was owed by a Ghanaian before he got his property conifscated. and sold off to bat.the nsawam cannery etc. I think in the process of the house cleaning he damages the entepreneurial spirit of well meaning Ghanaians to an extent

obaaderemi:
You must be Ghanaian.The rot of the Rawlings years sent many Ghanaians to Nigeria.I grew up with Ghanaians in Ibadan.Ghana and Nigeria are joined at the waist.At times I don't understand the rivalry between our two countries.

Lol it seems to me that many Ghanians believe we are all not trustworthy, criminals,419, etc. We Nigerians are also described by not just Ghanians but southafricans and blackamericans as loud and arrogant, this is the one that baffles me the most, loud in what way?

Nowenuse:


Nigeria's HDI was largely affected by the decades of military rule.
We are not so much perturbed about HDI, because it is sometimes unrealistic. And we also know that larger countries are always at a disadvantage when it comes to HDI.

Yeah even the Indian HDI is too low by its' standards, just 0.609. Kenya is 0.548 with Nigeria lurking at 0.523.

Isahalbash:


Lagosian from one ghetto area... U might have seen where a 3storey building collapsed last wk on NL fp at Ilasamaja, daz very close to my place.


Most of d Northerners coming to lag wit bako bags r mostly from d villages, nd r illiterates. Those dat push trucks and buy aluminium r mostly frm Kano. Few do shoemakers, some sell date palm, most ride bikes, those hausas from sokoto sell suya, d fulanis r traders. Those dat sell foodstuffs nd fruits inside wheelbarrow r mostly Zarma frm Nijer and a few hausas from Nigeria. Those BDC( bureau de change) r mostly Zarma from Nijer and Hausas from Jigawa state. These set of people r very rich, they live in big and extravagant houses in any part of Lagos, though dere way r not too pure and d literate ones among dem pick money for yahoo boys nd those wire wire.During rainy season, most of Dem go bak to dere villages' and farm.


The ones at festac, VI, lekki, Ajah, ikoyi etc r either govt workers or BDC.



The rich northerners only cum to Lagos for business nd go bak even during NYSC most of Dem will redeploy to either Abuja or any Northernern states even if they r posted to Lagos, Rivers, Anambra, Abia etc. Some of Dem do forfeit dere allawee jst to leave d state.

The northerners u see In Lagos r mostly poor nd illiterate people from d villages, then Zarma frm Nijer and kebbi state, kotokoli from Togo nd Ghana, fulanis, Buzus from Nijer nd mali( those u see wit a small kettle doin tea), Nupes( they sell roasted groundnut nd tanfirin) etc.

When there's crises in d south, most of d people its affect r d foreigns cos d northerners live closely together e.g Idi araba, alaba rago, mile 12 etc.

Hmm, interesting.
No wonder you can speak pidgin quite well and display some southern traits.

I also live in the South too, infact i was born in Delta state. My father works with NNPC and was transferred to the south.
What brought you to the south??

Are you for real? Though i don't really know much about the demographics of northerners in Lagos state, but in the SS/SE, you hardly find people from Kano, Jigawa or Kaduna doing menial jobs. Most of the core-northerners doing those are usually from Sokoto, Zamfara and sometimes Katsina. You can only find the former trading.
The Kanuris from Borno do wristwatches. Both core-northerners and middlebelters do mai guard and okada. ......
The only difference btw the poor core-northerners and middlebelters in the south is that most poor middlebelters who leave their villages to the South do so after finishing secondary schools. While most core-northerners never went to school.
Let me ask you, sincerely, do you see core-northerners changing and bridging the educational gap in Nigeria in the nearest future

TayserMahiri:


Oga, who taught you Econ 101? You were obviously fooled that a bigger population is not an additional resource. You are simply trying to say that the largest economy in the world should have the least HDI. Brains are immeasurable resources, incomparable to oil and gold not to mention the market potential. India is very much expected to have a higher per capita than kenya and so is China and Nigeria. Meanwhile, they have both a higher HDI and per capita but nigeria? Only a higher per capita that obviously means not much

You are a regular Jekyll and Hyde case,Tayser.One moment you are lucid,another moment you derail completely like an indian train.Do you people just argue for the heck of it?BTW,India's percapital is lower than nigeria's percapital but like it's expected,higher than kenya's percapita.Develop your economy and stop being a $70bn economy for 40m ppl.Why should bumbling India have a higher HDI than a supposedly well run smaller kenya?just curious.

freshest4live:

Yes you cannot speak about Africa without colonialism, it is myopic to do that. The nations you compare Nigeria with today are benefactors of the then civilized Greece and Roman Empires together with Christianity. Even at that, they had millenials of dark ages, fought many wars and learnt from them, then colonized Africa via looting. Colonalism is everything because it takes time to grow. What about Ghana the gold coast? It shouldn't be where it is today.
Take a look at the African francophone nations, in my opinion most are still indirectly colonized much more than English speaking African countries. The British left us with almost nothing, gave the Northerners power without education. You have to consider all these while speaking of Nigeria and her problems or growth else you'll be in the danger of a single story.

i was using germany. You said it doesnt make sense. Now i use south korea. You said it is wrong. Well south korea suffer the same hardship any african state pass through during colonization . It is even worst as some scholar put it.

57 years is enough to turn things around. use malaysia, singapore and south korea as a case study. Ghana can also be blame too but it seems it perform better than nigeria when it comes to citizen welfare

considering nigeria big population and abundant natural resources. she should have reached a develop world category even before the aforemention countries. you need to note oil was not discover by the colonial master.it was discover by nigeria goverment when oil was at is boom perioud.

nigeria had all the chance then to utilise all the goodies for her own advantage. nigeria then had a good income from cocoa and timber which was use to build nigeria first mordarn city. lagos and ibadan. So what stop the development now comparing to how it started ealier after independence. It is now sluggish and may be worst in some state apart from state capital.


as i said earlier. blaming colonializm for our ordeal at this stage is a prove to show we are not serious.

Isahalbash:


Lagosian from one ghetto area... U might have seen where a 3storey building collapsed last wk on NL fp at Ilasamaja, daz very close to my place.


Most of d Northerners coming to lag wit bako bags r mostly from d villages, nd r illiterates. Those dat push trucks and buy aluminium r mostly frm Kano. Few do shoemakers, some sell date palm, most ride bikes, those hausas from sokoto sell suya, d fulanis r traders. Those dat sell foodstuffs nd fruits inside wheelbarrow r mostly Zarma frm Nijer and a few hausas from Nigeria. Those BDC( bureau de change) r mostly Zarma from Nijer and Hausas from Jigawa state. These set of people r very rich, they live in big and extravagant houses in any part of Lagos, though dere way r not too pure and d literate ones among dem pick money for yahoo boys nd those wire wire.During rainy season, most of Dem go bak to dere villages' and farm.


The ones at festac, VI, lekki, Ajah, ikoyi etc r either govt workers or BDC.

The rich northerners only cum to Lagos for business nd go bak even during NYSC most of Dem will redeploy to either Abuja or any Northernern states even if they r posted to Lagos, Rivers, Anambra, Abia etc. Some of Dem do forfeit dere allawee jst to leave d state.

The northerners u see In Lagos r mostly poor nd illiterate people from d villages, then Zarma frm Nijer and kebbi state, kotokoli from Togo nd Ghana, fulanis, Buzus from Nijer nd mali( those u see wit a small kettle doin tea), Nupes( they sell roasted groundnut nd tanfirin) etc.


When there's crises in d south, most of d people its affect r d foreigns cos d northerners live closely together e.g Idi araba, alaba rago, mile 12 etc.

First of all, what is the major difference btw Zarma and Buzu? I always see them to be the same.
I seem to see you hinting about Zarma/buzus from Kebbi/Sokoto. Are there Zarma/buzu indigenous communities in Nigeria?? I never tot there were, If yes, can you help me list them if you know them?


Seriously, these Zarma people from Niger republic, i don't understand them at all.
How come most beggars from Niger republic are buzu/Zarma whereas a lot of them are rich people changing dollars??

Yes, we all know of their diabolism and unpure ways, but how come do these people manage to mix islam and such diabolism??

Also, i think this clustering together of northerners in one place in the south should be discouraged. It usually makes them easy targets in case of crises. See the case of Ile-ife. It also helps to breed some level of unruliness and extremism among the youths, thinking that they are now large in numbers and can thus challenge their hosts.

Apart from maybe the Nupes, those of us from middlebelt/Taraba/Adamawa and Southern kaduna, we hardly live in ethnic clusters in the South, and this helps us integrate with the southerners better and develop ourselves.
You may not share my views, but you can see that i have a point here.

Hati13:

Thanks for the detail.
Are kikuyu people Bantus?
Is Swahili Cushitic or Niger-Congo?

Yes the y are bantu origin people. Swahili is in this strange category called Niger Congo. Those are academic definitions. Nobody goes around claiming Niger Congo identity. In Africa, many people identify themselves with their tribes first, religion second and football third!

MtuMsuper:

Yes the y are bantu origin people. Swahili is in this strange category called Niger Congo. Those are academic definitions. Nobody goes around claiming Niger Congo identity. In Africa, many people identify themselves with their tribes first, religion second and football third!

Definitely true.

mtis:

noo no..i saw guys from a poo country migrating to better country...kenya vs Nigeria

OK

vaxx:
i was using germany. You said it doesnt make sense. Now i use south korea. You said it is wrong. Well south korea suffer the same hardship any african state pass through during colonization . It is even worst as some scholar put it.

57 years is enough to turn things around. use malaysia, singapore and south korea as a case study. Ghana can also be blame too but it seems it perform better than nigeria when it comes to citizen welfare

considering nigeria big population and abundant natural resources. she should have reached a develop world category even before the aforemention countries. you need to note oil was not discover by the colonial master.it was discover by nigeria goverment when oil was at is boom perioud.

nigeria had all the chance then to utilise all the goodies for her own advantage. nigeria then had a good income from cocoa and timber which was use to build nigeria first mordarn city. lagos and ibadan. So what stop the development now comparing to how it started ealier after independence. It is now sluggish and may be worst in some state apart from state capital.


as i said earlier. blaming colonializm for our ordeal at this stage is a prove to show we are not serious.

You have misunderstood my argument, l'm not saying Nigeria isn't living under her weight or saying the British caused all problems, but rather you can't compare Nigeria's foundation to that of western countries and not even to south Korea. Japan colonizing south Korea is child's play, they are still alike and understand themselves better than the Nigerian- British relationship.
You are also making excuses for Ghana, there are smaller countries in Europe doing much better than Ghana and with lesser resources, by your logic, this shouldn't be so.
Resources do not make nations but education and ideas. Congo has far more resources than we have, l also used to think Ghana was called the gold coast because of gold correct me if l'm wrong though.
So my point is you give Ghana far too many excuses if we are to go by your standard against Nigeria and you underrate the continual effect of colonialism especially from the French on the continent. There was a time ECOWAS was about introducing Eco as the only currency for west African states, the francophone nations kicked against it, because they valued the French currency, Nigeria had no power to face the French who would never easily give up her colonies completely and so the idea was abandoned. This is why l say Africa is still colonized indirectly and the comparison with South Korea is out of place.

ababda:
These are the Sudanese you will see in Israel mainly from Darfur or South Sudan.

A picture of a South Kordofan (sudan) or South Sudanese wedding in Israel.










Those are the picture above that goes to Israel, which is unfortunately.


These people below usually go to the arab countries



[img]https://hxreport.files./2014/09/img_6509_2.jpg[/img]


[img]https://hxreport.files./2014/09/img_6551.jpg[/img]




[img]https://hxreport.files./2014/09/img_6524.jpg?w=768[/img]

Sir, are you from North Sudan ?

PissedYagami:

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freshest4live:

You have misunderstood my argument, l'm not saying Nigeria isn't living under her weight or saying the British caused all problems, but rather you can't compare Nigeria's foundation to that of western countries and not even to south Korea. Japan colonizing south Korea is child's play, they are still alike and understand themselves better than the Nigerian- British relationship.
You are also making excuses for Ghana, there are smaller countries in Europe doing much better than Ghana and with lesser resources, by your logic, this shouldn't be so.
Resources do not make nations but education and ideas. Congo has far more resources than we have, l also used to think Ghana was called the gold coast because of gold correct me if l'm wrong though.
So my point is you give Ghana far too many excuses if we are to go by your standard against Nigeria and you underrate the continual effect of colonialism especially from the French on the continent. There was a time ECOWAS was about introducing Eco as the only currency for west African states, the francophone nations kicked against it, because they valued the French currency, Nigeria had no power to face the French and so the idea was abandoned. This is why l say Africa is still colonized indirectly and the comparison with South Korea is out of place.

Wow! I am still not believing this is you. You are spot on all the way here. Oga, we all need sense like a camel in the desert needs water! I especially agree with you on the negative French influence in West Africa. It pains me.

mtis:

i dont want to pop your delusional Bubble of greatness but i think time is catching up with you..yesterday was a story about your economy contracting..really dudes..really

wat is dis one saying

@Ishalbash

You will agree with me that this northern culture of manyan mutane & talakawa (rich & poor) is killing northern Nigeria.

Southerners are developing a very strong and viable middle-class population. And you can see the way they are dominating most sectors of the country apart from politics. Rich northerners have been the problem of the north as they seem to be very uninterested in developing the northern masses.
I am not against religion but it bleeds my heart to see Zamfara or Bauchi state governments organising Koranic recitation competitions and building more mosques whereas you will never find them organizing science and learning competitions, skill acquisition programs for the youth or building schools.

Kudos to northern governors like Ibrahim Dankwambo of Gombe state for changing that destructive mentality of most northern leaders.

You can clearly see that the middlebelt people are rapidly leaving that destructive culture, by embracing education more and if the core-northerners do not catch up, both the core-north and middlebelt will be forever divided.

One thing that most northern leaders do not know is that evil always backfires.
The more these northern leaders keep on leaving their people in backwardness and the Southerners get wealthier, the more the poorer northerners will keep on migrating to the South for greener pastures. Southerners will keep on using northerners as 'slaves'. It is already happening.

By the time all the indigenes of northern states have left to the South, who will these northern leaders rule??
Southern states will keep on having a higer Internal revenue and that 'Southernization' or Southern acculturization of Nigeria which northern leaders have been trying to fight since the time of the Sardauna will still take place!

What can you say about this?

TayserMahiri:



I thought you knew they export oil! Your statement is actually a stab at nigeria. We don't export oil and if we did we would be having a biiiig GDP. Just that we wouldn't be as bad as u and Cuba for your own people.

looooll its not by having oil, cos Congo has more oil than Nigeria but how much us their GDP

dude thank ur God Kenya does not have oil

Kiberawalker, just shut up and behave like a civilized human for once, will you?[/quote]That specimen you just quoted and civilization are mutually exclusive.Like oil and water.He argues like his life depends on it and cries like a banshee when beaten.He stands out for his obnoxiousness which you must have noticed.

freshest4live:

You have misunderstood my argument, l'm not saying Nigeria isn't living under her weight or saying the British caused all problems, but rather you can't compare Nigeria's foundation to that of western countries and not even to south Korea. Japan colonizing south Korea is child's play, they are still alike and understand themselves better than the Nigerian- British relationship.
You are also making excuses for Ghana, there are smaller countries in Europe doing much better than Ghana and with lesser resources, by your logic, this shouldn't be so.
Resources do not make nations but education and ideas. Congo has far more resources than we have, l also used to think Ghana was called the gold coast because of gold correct me if l'm wrong though.
So my point is you give Ghana far too many excuses if we are to go by your standard against Nigeria and you underrate the continual effect of colonialism especially from the French on the continent. There was a time ECOWAS was about introducing Eco as the only currency for west African states, the francophone nations kicked against it, because they valued the French currency, Nigeria had no power to face the French who would never easily give up her colonies completely and so the idea was abandoned. This is why l say Africa is still colonized indirectly and the comparison with South Korea is out of place.

Seriously, karma will keep on punishing France for keeping French west Africa in darkness. The bombings they are experiencing now will be child's play compared to what they will experience in the future.

They act as if they so much value their former french colonies, but how have they helped them to develop themselves?? French west African countries still dominate the list of the poorest and hopeless in the world. Selfish white witches playing with the destinies of millions of people.

NairobiWalker:


When this Nonsense boy gives you accolades, take it as an insult rather than appraise. In fact it is sure proof you IQ range is of a clever monkey.

You Nailed it Bro. reasoning with this guys

uzzyfire:
looooll its not by having oil, cos Congo has more oil than Nigeria but how much us their GDP

dude thank ur God Kenya does not have oil

Lol, how many developed nations have oil? Nigeria was doing better before oil, our talents showed in various sectors within that short period, we were diversified. But the oil came and with money and the good life, we relaxed.
Corruption today was magnified on a larger scale partly due to this oil bloom. With the greed of politicians, the economy sank, but those at the top kept looting, many youths began to believe it is all man for himself, it doesn't matter as long as you make the money. In my opinion Nigeria with our population would have been much better without oil, if we had achieved political stability also.

iamord:
school of thought. do you know that Ghana had More millionaires in achempobg time than in Rawlings. this is not to criticize​ the house cleaning exercise but I think was a lot of witch hunting that could have been avoided in the process. there were great Ghanaian owned companies that should have been sustained till now. am talking about the likes of rothmans cigrattes, the first cigratte company in West Africa.I bet people dont know that this brand was owed by a Ghanaian before he got his property conifscated. and sold off to bat.the nsawam cannery etc. I think in the process of the house cleaning he damages the entepreneurial spirit of well meaning Ghanaians to an extent

I heard Rawlings wife bought nsawam cannery how true is that?

MtuMsuper:

Wow! I am still not believing this is you. You are spot on all the way here. Oga, we all need sense like a camel in the desert needs water! I especially agree with you on the negative French influence in West Africa. It pains me.

A good thing you share in the pain, but yours is child's play compared to ours.
I am so pained that i can kill someone for this

Do you know how painful it is seeing people from countries like Niger republic in Nigeria living on the streets? Children, babies, todlers, women. Infact. It's sad.

It's not like Nigerians, Ghanaians and other Anglophone west Africans do not have suffering people, just that our cases are very hopeful and we are making more progress. Apart from Ivory Coast, no other francophone west african country seems to be making any reasonable progress and these bastard white french witches will never allow the unification of Ecowas (that will help these francophone people). It's just sad.

Nowenuse:


Seriously, karma will keep on punishing France for keeping French west Africa in darkness. The bombings they are experiencing now will be child's play compared to what they will experience in the future.

They act as if they so much value their former french colonies, but how have they helped them to develop themselves?? French west African countries still dominate the list of the poorest and hopeless in the world. Selfish white witches playing with the destinies of millions of people.

But in which ways were the British better than the french as colonisers in Africa?Our people need to stop using colonisation as an excuse and move on.Morocco,Algeria and Tunisia were also colonised by france but are doing quite well today.Algeria suffered seriously at the hand of france but finally pushed out france.

obaaderemi:
But in which ways were the British better than the french as colonisers in Africa?Our people need to stop using colonisation as an excuse and move on.Morocco,Algeria and Tunisia were also colonised by france but are doing quite well today.Algeria suffered seriously at the hand of france but finally pushed out france.

Nobody is using colonization as an excuse, nobody is saying we shouldn't move on, my point is that Africa is growing slowly but steadily, if we can achieve political stability and unite for the common good with better institutions to fight corruption.
The point we are making is that subsaharan Africa is not totally free from the French. I do not know whom to blame for this, Africa or Frances? I blame both. For example l do not know who to blame for Cameroon's situation even though they claim to be bilingual like Canada. Do we blame Biya or Frances? Both of course.