Adiola:
my mother's people i am pleased with this thread

ur welcm dear.

I can't wait for my beloved Biafra, a country where extreme patriotism will be the foundation for her economic and military growth.

EzeUche:
Landlocked or not, we must claim every part of Igboland. We cannot forget about Asaba or even Port Harcourt.

I doubt the other Eastern groups would want to stay in Nigeria once they see the Igbo being serious about a nation.

For now they are on the fence.

Why are you trying to spoil this thread with this you lots unity begging business?

Why exactly are you people doing this? Enu ani is Igbo and would ultimately end up with us.
But Ikwerre? Hell no! You invite those lots, you open the gates for Igbophobic entities we are trying to stay away from.

Please let this PH talk be. PH is a third world city, it's not New York for crying out loud.
Before you know it, this thread would be derailed with irrelevant people given undue attention.

Lets stop doing this to ourselves.

pazienza:


Why are you trying to spoil this thread with this you lots unity begging business?

Why exactly are you people doing this? Enu ani is Igbo and would ultimately end up with us.
But Ikwerre? Hell no! You invite those lots, you open the gates for Igbophobic entities we are trying to stay away from.

Please let this PH talk be. PH is a third world city, it's not New York for crying out loud.
Before you know it, this thread would be derailed with irrelevant people given undue attention.

Lets stop doing this to ourselves.

Ikwerre people won't want to stay in Nigeria without igbos forget all these shakara and besides they are not the only Igbo clans in rivers state. What about the rest that never denied their Igboness after they were carved out of abia state. Why do we always act as if they are the only igbos clans in rivers state or port harcourt while ignoring the rest.

Fremancipation:


Ikwerre people won't want to stay in Nigeria without igbos forget all these shakara and besides they are not the only Igbo clans in rivers state. What about the rest that never denied their Igboness after they were carved out of abia state. Why do we always act as if they are the only igbos clans in rivers state or port harcourt while ignoring the rest.

Then let them sort themselves out! Their problem, not ours!
I don't see what they are bringing to the table that is indispensable that should make them relevant in every Biafran thread.
Those people are Igbophobic, sometimes I wonder if any of my brothers had ever stepped foot into Ikwerreland or even Ikwerre facebook pages to know about these people? I once was like you before, but I know better now, peeps like Ezeagu were preaching this message of SE plus Enu ani and Oyigbo Biafra message I am preaching now before, but I never understood him, but now I do.

Whether they will be ok in Nigeria or not is and should be none of our concerns. We first save ourselves.

If you are talking about Oyigbo and Egbema, ie those that were carved out of Abia and Imo into Rivers, then you need not worry, we have them on board.

Let Ikwerre be, forget them, they are not strategic to our plans, not indispensable and certainly not worth the headache. They( Ikwerre) have even started infecting Etche with their Igbophobia, bring them into Biafra and you have more problems on your hands to deal with.

Now, you lots with this your unity begging business have ruined this thread, it's now all about irrelevant people again and not about the relevant people.

pazienza:


Why are you trying to spoil this thread with this you lots unity begging business?

Why exactly are you people doing this? Enu ani is Igbo and would ultimately end up with us.
But Ikwerre? Hell no! You invite those lots, you open the gates for Igbophobic entities we are trying to stay away from.

Please let this PH talk be. PH is a third world city, it's not New York for crying out loud.
Before you know it, this thread would be derailed with irrelevant people given undue attention.

Lets stop doing this to ourselves.

you must be joking?
ikwerres are igbos

are you planning on leaving them behind because they are not in the SE?

jotey:

you must be joking?
ikwerres are igbos

are you planning on leaving them behind because they are not in the SE?

Ikwerre are not Igbo. They said so themselves. We are not "leaving" them, they opted out ( loudly and rudely, I might add). Besides they don't bring much to the table and are really tangential to our plans.

Dumaknesset:


Are you serious, if the owner of Lagos-the Afonjas introduce rash policies that requires Biafrans to relocate Lagos will immediately loose it's economic viability. With the above you revealed your Superficial and restrictive and bias knowledge. I was expecting some thing different it is still the same, brash, impulsive, thoughtless, chest beating tantrums.

The same yorubas own porto-novo. Why is porto novo not as viable as Lagos? Answer= Oil money.

I just love the way this conversation is going but I will love to contribute.

Before Biafra comes, we should establish a trust fund and asset generation scheme whereby 60% of Igbo's staying outside the borders of igboland can contribute an agreed amount.

Those in the western world will make it a progress because of the obvious exchange difference and those within the shores of our present country can also donate.

This monies will be a must and it will be termed diaspora taxation system. Though it is called diaspora tax, those within the border too will be part of the tax regime.

We plan to raise close to 750billion naira yearly to kick start major capital projects that will ease business discomfort. With such plans in place and the small size of the east, then we are good to say, the total development of the east is a sure thing within the next 10years.

jotey:

you must be joking?
ikwerres are igbos

are you planning on leaving them behind because they are not in the SE?

Ikwerres are Ikwerres!

Igbo is Igbo. It's not our duty to take them along or leave them behind.
They chart their own course, we chart ours!

We have Enu ani, Oyigbo, Egbema,Umezekoha, Isobo, all outside the SE, yet nobody is leaving them behind.

The code name is Operation Noah's Ark, the ship is open for all Igbo speaking group to enter, nobody is begging anyone or leaving anyone behind, all enter of their own volition.

No one is being left behind.

Have you been to Ikwerreland before or joined any Ikwerre social media group to hear the people's opinion?

pazienza:


Why are you trying to spoil this thread with this you lots unity begging business?

Why exactly are you people doing this? Enu ani is Igbo and would ultimately end up with us.
But Ikwerre? Hell no! You invite those lots, you open the gates for Igbophobic entities we are trying to stay away from.

Please let this PH talk be. PH is a third world city, it's not New York for crying out loud.
Before you know it, this thread would be derailed with irrelevant people given undue attention.

Lets stop doing this to ourselves.

My only interest is Opobo.
And m not letting go of our son's estate.
Period

Curlieweed:


Ikwerre are not Igbo. They said so themselves. We are not "leaving" them, they opted out ( loudly and rudely, I might add). Besides they don't bring much to the table and are really tangential to our plans.

Gbam!

Eastfield1:

My only interest is Opobo.
And m not letting go of our son's estate.
Period

The code name remains Operation Noah's Ark. If Opobo want in, they can come in. Otherwise, nobody is going to beg anybody.

Let this Unity begging business end, we are not Arewa-Oduanistanis. If we don't end it, we wouldn't gather enough critical mass needed to project this movement to the next level. Efforts would be dissipated discussing about irrelevant groups who would now feel important.

Curlieweed:


Ikwerre are not Igbo. They said so themselves. We are not "leaving" them, they opted out ( loudly and rudely, I might add). Besides they don't bring much to the table and are really tangential to our plans.

Oga they answer igbo names...speak igbo dialect so how are they not igbos?

askaboutbiafra:
Ask me any question including but not limited to Agriculture, Economy, Wealth creation, Currency, Banking, Democracy, Human resources, Natural resources, Taxation, Law and order, Infrastructure, Education, International relations, Health and Social care.

Progressive Nigerians can also learn from this conversation and are invited to join
Discusion starts now and closes at 13:00 hours

Ebubedike Okonkwo

Between Biafrans and other ethnic groups in Nigeria and Africa which of them stand in a better position of assisting their host communities in terms of investment,Dev,edu etc?Can Biafrans be more helpful to host communities than others?

jotey:


Oga they answer igbo names...speak igbo dialect so how are they not igbos?

Why are you asking me? Am I Ikwerre? You should find them and ask them.

How dem matter take concern me?

I think we should ban islam before they continue where they stoped in nigeria

starkid1996:
I think we should ban islam
before they continue where they stoped in nigeria

We shouldn't ban Islam because of the international repercussions but we should have strong border protection and patrol. No matter what happens we should never allow Muslim refugees to come in. They should go seek help from other Muslim countries.

You can't be running to infidels anytime you need help.

GrandGarcon:
Look at onye Ara, he doesn't even know what shooting ones's self on the foot means but wants to argue. No wonder Nigeria is backward, their finance minister keeps thinking.

Lekwe onyoshi! Once you vacate Nigeria, all your properties revert to the state.It is a well settled principle of law. See this idiot, telling I don't know how to argue, educate and cultivate your mind.I earn a living from arguing! It will take you like a decade before you will understand my post. It is simply beyond you, you can't load 2 gigabyte data on 2mb brain. Ndi ara!

KratosCorp:
I am totally convinced that MrVitalis is an igbo man. I dislike his view on Biafra and Nigerian politics but that does not change my conviction about his Igboness.

And I am saying that to say that you should stoo derailing this thread, please. I loved it when you called for a no-fight dialogue on this thread.

Now just do as you said.

stop being naive mrvitalis is my fellow yoruba muslim

DocHMD:


The same yorubas own porto-novo. Why is porto novo not as viable as Lagos? Answer= Oil money.

Ask why yourself this also, why is Anambra or IMO not as vibrant as Lagos State? The viability of Lagos is the ingenuity of the people therein, Lagos housed the very best of Nigerian brains be it Yoruba, eboe, Benin,etc. Lagos is metropolitan, the population is ready made markets for both visible and invisible trades. These facts largely contribute to Lagos viability not one stupid oyel, little wonder rivers state and delta state are not as viable as Lagos.The factors stated above is why southwest have been ahead of others.Human resources simpliciter.When regional government was holding sway then, it was the same thing, southwest was the envy of other regions.

pazienza:
Now that the ashes of the Biafra talk is still smoldering, with few sparks here and there, I think it is important to address this once again.

If Biafra becomes a sovereign state today, it will be a landlocked country. Yes.

If Biafra becomes a sovereign state today, it will have one of the highest population densities in the world because of its smaller landmass. Yes.

Are these obstacles to economic growth and development? Yes.

Are they insurmountable? No.

The need to address this arose out of the myriads of assumptions on what may likely be the fate of a sovereign Biafran state should Nigeria continue to refuse our call to restructure and save itself from imminent implosion.

Many have said that a sovereign Biafra will face the huddles of geography due mainly to its small land mass and landlocked state.

Being landlocked is an impediment to economic growth no doubt,The World Bank said its negative impact equals about 1.5% of GDP. But access to the sea is not in itself a guarantee to economic growth either.

With developments in technology, logistics and huge improvements in air transportation, committed countries have cut down on this impediment to a negligible level.I think you know about the Antonov An 225 Mriya cargo aircraft which has the capacity to carry over 450,000 kg of weight?

Moreso, the world is moving into a full knowledge economy where the internet of things has erased physical borders.

Still on the issue of landlocked?

Of Africa's top 10 fastest growing economies, four are landlocked among them are Rwanda, Botswana, and Ethiopia. Zambia which has remained Africa's shinning example of democracy and stability is equally landlocked.

And of Africa's poorest and economic laggards, many have access to the sea, among them are Sierra Leone, Liberia, Guinea, Guinea Bissau, Mauritania, Mozambique,Congo DRC, Togo, Sao Tome and Somalia of all countries.

Having access to the sea with irresponsible leadership equals mental and psychological lock, and that is the worst kind. Nigeria is a clear example.

In an age of jumbo cargo planes, and international trade corridors, being landlocked is an archaic excuse against development.

Ethiopia has taken the lead in linking up east African countries by fast electric train with connection to the Port of Djibouti. This has cut to a day, the time it takes for a container to get to Addis Ababa from Djibouti Port. Yet it takes three to four days from a container to get to Aba from Lagos.

Djibouti is building one of the worlds largest integrated sea port with a cargo airport to service over 25 African countries and 400 million people. It has become so competitive they are cutting costs.

During the last economic crisis that hit Europe, it is interesting to note that all the PIIGS ( Portugal, Italy, Ireland, Greece, Spain) countries all have access to the sea. Yet Switzerland, Luxembourg and Austria that are landlocked were economically more buoyant.

Every student of development is aware that geography does not hold the influence it used to have as a determinant of development. In its place, culture has taken precedent. That is why some of the most magnificent cities today are rising up from places that were ordinary deserts four decades ago. Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Qatar among others.

Have we wondered how Haiti and Dominican Republic share same weather and climatic conditions with unimpeded access to drown in the sea .......yet they are complete opposites?


Biafra has land poverty.....

Yes. The South East is one of the most densely populated regions in Africa. In places like enclave (Mbaise) driving through the communities, you might think there is a festivity going on.

But how is that a disadvantage?

Greater Tokyo Metropolitan Area houses over 30 million people comfortably.

To what extent has landmass stopped Hong Kong from growing?

Monaco has 25,718 people per square km.

Bangladesh, North Korea, Rwanda, Netherlands and India all have high densities, yet people are not marching on the heads of others.

And who said if Biafra becomes a sovereign state, every Biafran must live in Biafra?

What makes you think that if Biafra becomes a sovereign state that Niger Delta Republic will refuse to enter an agreement with it granting it access to either the ports at Onne, or Calabar, especially as there will be money to be made from it?

Dont be surprised that Oduduwa Republic and Niger Delta Republic will be competing to woo Biafra importers to use their ports. And mark my word, Arewa Republic will become Biafra's major food exporter. Nation states are guided by political and economic interests not mundane sentiments.

______________________

I do not believe in territorial Biafra or secession.And I have made that known severally. I know that a restructured Nigeria will offer Igbo a great deal and that much needed space to be who they were created to be. This belief has nothing to do with the thinking, or fear that a sovereign Biafran nation will be unworkable. It will work. It takes only commitments and sacrifices to make nations work.

There is a thing called human resources.......human resources recognises no such barriers as landlocked.

Development and underdevelopment are states of mind.

If Biafra becomes independent and allow the quality of unthinking leadership that has been the lot Nigeria to captain its ship. It will be worse than South Sudan and before long Biafrans will start looking back to Egypt.

Nigeria is not working, and as long as it continues in this trajectory, it will never work.

If you so love Nigeria, instead of wasting your mental energy fighting over Biafra this and Biafra that, join hands in calling for Nigeria's urgent restructuring so that it will release its children from the Frankenstein state of ignorance, poverty, lack, and oppression.

Nigeria has failed Africa.

~ Kelechi Deca.

Wow wow wow wow

askaboutbiafra:


There are international laws covering this issue. However should incase the other countries go against these laws, it is going to be detrimental to there own economy. As an example, Lagos has a capable sea port that Biafrans might still want to partronise. If the owners of Lagos decides to to introduce rash policies that requires Biafrans to relocate, Lagos will immediately loose its economic viability. I do not think that any governemnt will be stupid enough to score an own goal.

Since humans and government are unpredictable, we will have to setup a recovery fund to match whatever looses our people have incurred and rehabilitate them should they need it.

what will happen to nigeria dept both local and international?

musicwriter:
There's no doubt the nations making up Nigeria would be better off individually, if the country divides or at least confederate. It is even for common good that this country at least confederate, cause the current Nigeria is a burden to all. And I keep wondering why the South west with a sizable number of educated people can't figure this out. If the South West, for example; understands how well off they'll be on their own, they'll be no reason they'll want to remain in the British creation. They prospered when they were western Nigeria, and they were better off until the Lord Lugard amalgamation.

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Nigeria as a whole will be better off in a region system that allow each region to harness their reources. The western region will be ahead in education, ecomerce etc, the north will be an agricultural and leather goods powerhouse that it once was and the southeast will be an industrial juggernaut. Why people are fixated on just oil baffles me.

respect to those that contributed so far, we need to do more to enlighten those who are still on the fence

Dumaknesset:


Lekwe onyoshi! Once you vacate Nigeria, all your properties revert to the state.It is a well settled principle of law. See this idiot, telling I don't know how to argue, educate and cultivate your mind.I earn a living from arguing! It will take you like a decade before you will understand my post. It is simply beyond you, you can't load 2 gigabyte data on 2mb brain. Ndi ara!

If biafra dey vex you hug a wet live transformer, I don't care what you think, BTW you are the one you just described with that "I" word. Bear it in mind that any one that owns even a sand in Nigeria owns it after break up. So I if you don't like it hug a wet live transformer!

It really gladdens my heart that such touchy topic could be discussed on NL to the 3rd page without the usual mud slinging and E-fisticuffs! Please let's sustain this. I'm aware quite a good number of my brothers brook no dissenting view, no matter how polite on Biafra. This is what drives many well meaning people - Igbos, Hausas, Yorubas et al away from identifying in one way or the other. This is not in any way saying I'm not oblivious of the taunts and hatred from certain quarters. Nigeria as it is, isn't working. However, I'm of the humble view that restructuring is the way. Carry on brothers

pazienza:


Biafra is an ideology. Every ideology needs to be sold for people to buy them, no matter how good they are, if not well marketed or presented, people won't buy them.

There are Igbos sitting on the fence on this Biafra issue, reason being that they are not sure how it's going to be any better off than Nigeria.

These are the people Arewa-Oduanistanis target with the tales of gloomy Biafra.

And these are the ones we must protect by debunking the Arewa-Oduanistanis lies. We can't have too many dissenting voices in our midst.

Every serious movement must have propaganda against it, managing those propaganda and keeping the spirit of the members of such movement high is crucial.

Nobody is going to identify with a cause they perceive to be destined for failure.

So, No to your advice. Arewa-Oduanistanis with their false propaganda against Biafra as a matter of necessity MUST be debunked and checkmated.
We must keep the morale in our camp high!

Dalukwa.

I swear, please accept my bow. You have great foresight. I am typically among those sitting on the fence, not for aforementioned gloomy tales but the way Nnamdi Kanu has handled this Biafra thing.

For instance, people now call him a prophet and bow at his feet. I believe you have seen images.

Another said he cured a woman of some illness.

Yesterday, I read about kogi and benue being called biafra.

The list is endless and all these give the cause a distasteful colouration in the yes of many. I would prefer Nnamdi Kanu be replaced by a better brand.

I love his guts as a typical igbo man but his approaches has too many dents that could stall the dream because he makes it look like no other people matter.

Another thing are those who insults or attack you when you question their motives with reference to how Nnamdi Kanu is handling issues such calling of Jews and so on.

If those sitting on fence should/would be won, a lot of things have to stop and it starts at Nnamdi Kanu's camp and his ideology or approach.

I say this because his "brand of igbos" are boastful, arrogant, vindictive.

If the way we have been discussing on this thread is how things have been co-ordinated, I assure you that we will earn a lot admiration. Taking the quiet and action route doesn't mean we are stupid.

Look at China... while the world laughed at their products, they were working so hard until they took the world by storm.

All these noise and boastful attitude will not take us far...

The moment you share a contrary view, the next thing is, you are not igbo. Wtf?

The shameful behaviour by all these guys needs to be stopped and put in check cos I hate it!

askaboutbiafra:


We already have a Nigerian system in place at the moment. We will have start off on that system before it is quickly unpicked.

How are you preparing for the war declaring BIAFRA will trigger?

GrandGarcon:
If biafra dey vex you hug a wet live transformer, I don't care what you think, BTW you are the one you just described with that "I" word. Bear it in mind that any one that owns even a sand in Nigeria owns it after break up. So I if you don't like it hug a wet live transformer!

Thanks I will pass, you do the hugging. Will be routing for you. I want you guys to have your Biafra most urgently, I am bored with all the rants and wailing. The only problem is that you guys want Nigerians to give you Biafra when you can take it like ojukwu did.