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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Daboomb: 2:17pm On Jun 20, 2017
EgunMogaji:
"Meantime, Community Development Association, CDA, heads in Bungalow section of Jakande estate , Oke-Afa, Isolo area of Lagos where Evans, had one of his hide-outs have begun to profile residents with a view to ascertaining their identities and means of lively hood."

Read more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/06/evans-wife-hasnt-visited-home-since-got-married-brother/


Good idea.

This should happen in every Estate in Nigeria.
How can we not know what our neighbour does for a living?
That is why l like Oyinbo people and their Aproko...... grin grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 2:20pm On Jun 20, 2017
Daboomb:

Those are not Nigeria pictures please. undecided
Look closely and you will see the "language tag" on it.

Very good if they are not in Nigeria o... Yes, I saw the language part but I don't know every language in Nigeria o.
So what "language tag" is that Oga mi?

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Daboomb: 2:26pm On Jun 20, 2017
diordaves:


We have debated the pros and cons of high fencing previously. This Evans case is a clear manifestation that high fencing benefits no one; owner and community. High fencing is a very lethal security risk to all. Imagine all these evils going on behind those walls and the community is non the wiser. Now is the abducted victims, but it could easily be the landlord as well.

I will call for the government to legislate for see through fence or low fence like it's done in the developed world. Even Evans has a see through fence. Doesn't that say something.

Very valid points.

Its a choice between two evils, each one with its pros and cons.

I guess "the environment" where one lives, will determine whether one has a high or low see-through fence

Most people will agree that the type of criminals we have now and the selfishness of neighbours, you dont expect them to show-face when you shout Thief! Thief!! So, not much benefit from letting them see-through your fence.
And you cant really blame them, they are not armed.

On the other hand, "Evans" could just be passing-by 'innocently', when your Son just landed from Amelika and offloading....... you know the rest of the story
undecided

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 2:33pm On Jun 20, 2017
diordaves:


We have debated the pros and cons of high fencing previously. This Evans case is a clear manifestation that high fencing benefits no one; owner and community. High fencing is a very lethal security risk to all. Imagine all these evils going on behind those walls and the community is non the wiser. Now is the abducted victims, but it could easily be the landlord as well.

I will call for the government to legislate for see through fence or low fence like it's done in the developed world. Even Evans has a see through fence. Doesn't that say something.

Yes we did debate the pros and cons.

Nothing is truly burglar proof to a determined robber but any robber that is behind my fence will be playing with other several layers of defense including two packs of Doberman Pinchers.

Sure they can shoot 4 dogs but any robber who came prepared to gun down 4 protective dogs is going to do the job fence or not.

My fence is primarily to keep me and my stuffs from harming others. This is why I won't use electric fence. Let's be certain that the perimeter has truly been violated then all bets are off.

Even here in the US, I have the highest fences allowed by code all around my premises.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 6:56pm On Jun 20, 2017
EgunMogaji:

Yes we did debate the pros and cons.

Nothing is truly burglar proof to a determined robber but any robber that is behind my fence will be playing with other several layers of defense including two packs of Doberman Pinchers.

Sure they can shoot 4 dogs but any robber who came prepared to gun down 4 protective dogs is going to do the job fence or not.

My fence is primarily to keep me and my stuffs from harming others. This is why I won't use electric fence. Let's be certain that the perimeter has truly been violated then all bets are off.

Even here in the US, I have the highest fences allowed by code all around my premises.

Once anyone is behind (inside) that fence... all cases are lost... including life if needed.

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 9:49pm On Jun 20, 2017
mufutau55:


Once anyone is behind (inside) that fence... all cases are lost... including life if needed.

Hajji M.
Yes baba, nah dis one pure pass, plz dont 4get me oh, nah that broom and sweep my yard level sure pass ahaahha
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by allCopacetic: 11:00pm On Jun 20, 2017
mufutau55:
SON Discovers fake cables in a building in Lagos, Nigeria.
Please be careful when you buy your cables o. FIRE!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU-FtAsqQiM

Hajji M.
This is just the tip of the iceberg. One out of several dozens.
E be like say the importer no "do normal" ..because the scale of cloning right now is unprecedented. It's an open scandal.
It used to be unbranded or a subpar brand of Cables shipped here and then recoiled and repackaged as popular local brands...But now, the game has changed..... They brand the cables all the way from China (complete with engravings​ and all) and offload in secret warehouses, then start to move​ them into the market in bits ( if you settle the market Union).

Many sellers are smiling to the bank.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 3:29am On Jun 21, 2017
erico2k2:

Yes baba, nah dis one pure pass, plz dont 4get me oh, nah that broom and sweep my yard level sure pass ahaahha

Anytime you are ready.. we go meet for Naija.... and problem solved o.

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 3:30am On Jun 21, 2017
allCopacetic:

This is just the tip of the iceberg. One out of several dozens.
E be like say the importer no "do normal" ..because the scale of cloning right now is unprecedented. It's an open scandal.
It used to be unbranded or a subpar brand of Cables shipped here and then recoiled and repackaged as popular local brands...But now, the game has changed..... They brand the cables all the way from China (complete with engravings​ and all) and offload in secret warehouses, then start to move​ them into the market in bits ( if you settle the market Union).

Many sellers are smiling to the bank.

My brother... those wires can't come into the country without some officials knowing o. You are completely right.
Nah only God go dey help us for Naija o. This is horrible... property and humans going up in smoke...

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 12:50pm On Jun 21, 2017
mufutau55:
SON Discovers fake cables in a building in Lagos, Nigeria.
Please be careful when you buy your cables o. FIRE!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU-FtAsqQiM

Hajji M.

There are alot of fake cables in the market now. Some importers have taken advantage of recession to bring in so many fake materials to Nigeria market. Only that can save us. Best is to buy from distributor.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by yak(m): 1:53pm On Jun 21, 2017
topsy23:


There are alot of fake cables in the market now. Ibo guys have taken advantage of recession to bring in so many fake materials to Nigeria market. Only that can save us. Best is to buy from distributor.

point of correction: marketers- no research has proven that all the fake products were imports of Igbo men

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by allCopacetic: 2:31pm On Jun 21, 2017
mufutau55:


My brother... those wires can't come into the country without some officials knowing o. You are completely right.
Nah only God go dey help us for Naija o. This is horrible... property and humans going up in smoke...

Hajji M.

Exactly Sir, @ bolded.
All parties in connivance are as tainted as the criminals who do the importing.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by allCopacetic: 2:44pm On Jun 21, 2017
topsy23:


There are alot of fake cables in the market now. Ibo guys have taken advantage of recession to bring in so many fake materials to Nigeria market. Only that can save us. Best is to buy from distributor.

Lol, @ bolded . A more appropriate term would be "Dubious Importers" smiley

I'm an "Ibo guy" too. But it goes without saying, the standard of merchandise we put out.

80% of other key distributors for local brands​ are also Ibo by the way.

People just need to source wisely and ascertain the genuity of their source. Not everybody with a shop full of cables is an "Appointed Distributor" .
Buying from an "appointed" distributor might also not give you 100% immunity, but it is your surest bet in an open market.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 2:53pm On Jun 21, 2017
allCopacetic:

This is just the tip of the iceberg. One out of several dozens.
E be like say the importer no "do normal" ..because the scale of cloning right now is unprecedented. It's an open scandal.
It used to be unbranded or a subpar brand of Cables shipped here and then recoiled and repackaged as popular local brands...But now, the game has changed..... They brand the cables all the way from China (complete with engravings​ and all) and offload in secret warehouses, then start to move​ them into the market in bits ( if you settle the market Union).

Many sellers are smiling to the bank.

Which browser do you use? I noticed your 'Quote' of Hajji M post included the photo/YouTube video. I know Explorer use to this but since the update of Nairaland, a lot of stuff went downhill. I can't even log in with internet explorer or even Microsoft Edge.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 2:59pm On Jun 21, 2017
allCopacetic:

Exactly Sir, @ bolded.
All parties in connivance are as tainted as the criminals who do the importing.

YES. They are guilty.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Daboomb: 3:33pm On Jun 21, 2017
topsy23:


There are alot of fake cables in the market now. Some importers have taken advantage of recession to bring in so many fake materials to Nigeria market. Only that can save us. Best is to buy from distributor.

Recession has nothing to do with it, stop making excuses for GREEDY fucktards!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Daboomb: 3:39pm On Jun 21, 2017
yak:


point of correction: marketers- no research has proven that all the fake products were imports of Igbo men


He never said "ALL FAKE PRODUCTS", he was only referring to these fake cables imported from China.
Or do you still need "Research" to "observe" that, abi?
Let us keep deceiving ourselves.

Moreover, some Igbo Men dont do such shameful acts.
At least we all know that @Alcopacetic is an Igbo Man yet he does not import or sell fake electrical things.
undecided

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by jabolo(m): 3:44pm On Jun 21, 2017
allCopacetic:


Lol, @ bolded . A more appropriate term would be "Dubious Importers" smiley

I'm an "Ibo guy" too. But it goes without saying, the standard of merchandise we put out.

80% of other key distributors for local brands​ are also Ibo by the way.

People just need to source wisely and ascertain the genuity of their source. Not everybody with a shop full of cables is an "Appointed Distributor" .
Buying from an "appointed" distributor might also not give you 100% immunity, but it is your surest bet in an open market.


It seems even electrical installers so used to the fake products are now confused about what is quality and what is not. I'll drop you a mail later about an ongoing "Coleman" vs "Colman" wahala.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Daboomb: 3:44pm On Jun 21, 2017
allCopacetic:


Lol, @ bolded . A more appropriate term would be "Dubious Importers" smiley

I'm an "Ibo guy" too. But it goes without saying, the standard of merchandise we put out.

80% of other key distributors for local brands​ are also Ibo by the way.

People just need to source wisely and ascertain the genuity of their source. Not everybody with a shop full of cables is an "Appointed Distributor" .
Buying from an "appointed" distributor might also not give you 100% immunity, but it is your surest bet in an open market.


YOU are an appointed Distributor of ColeMan cables, l think.

Are you saying that even if l or anyone else buys from you, there is no 100% GUARANTEE that you wont sell me something Fake? shocked shocked

Please clarify o!
Abeg, just clarify. undecided

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 3:49pm On Jun 21, 2017
Daboomb:

He never said "ALL FAKE PRODUCTS", he was only referring to these fake cables imported from China.
Or do you still need "Research" to "observe" that, abi?
Let us keep deceiving ourselves.

Moreover, some Igbo Men dont do such shameful acts.
At least we all know that @Alcopacetic is an Igbo Man yet he does not import or sell fake electrical things.
undecided

Agreed with you. Nigeria people as a whole are all guilty... Not just Ibos... If we keep pointing fingers we will never eradicate the problem.
Go after anyone involved.... Ok... say the Igbo man import it, what of the Yoruba/Hausa (or whoever) Custom man who let him bring it into the country?
So we (tribal wise) are all guilty.... ALL means, all those people regardless of their ethnicity. Prosecute them to the fullest.

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 4:04pm On Jun 21, 2017
Daboomb:

YOU are an appointed Distributor of ColeMan cables, l think.

Are you saying that even if l or anyone else buys from you, there is no 100% GUARANTEE that you wont sell me something Fake? shocked shocked

Please clarify o!
Abeg, just clarify. undecided

I can answer some of this for AllCopacetic... Buy from him (Pay to him) and then pickup the cables from the Coleman factory. And he always want you to pickup from the factory... I and friends have done this with him. Also another Agent for Nigerchin. That is the only way you can be sure of genuine cables.

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by yak(m): 4:23pm On Jun 21, 2017
Daboomb:



He never said "ALL FAKE PRODUCTS", he was only referring to these fake cables imported from China.
Or do you still need "Research" to "observe" that, abi?
Let us keep deceiving ourselves.

Moreover, some Igbo Men dont do such shameful acts.
At least we all know that @Alcopacetic is an Igbo Man yet he does not import or sell fake electrical things.
undecided

let him just say "some marketers'' and save us this sentiments

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 4:25pm On Jun 21, 2017
this day na factory sure pass oooo


before we dont use to have engraving on the fake cable... but this day they have perfected the act. going to shops might not help really. now is becoming scary.


but the those distributor know themselves they can identify fake from original even with the engraven.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 4:29pm On Jun 21, 2017
twinskenny:
this day na factory sure pass oooo


before we dont use to have engraving on the fake cable... but this day they have perfected the act. going to shops might not help really. now is becoming scary.


but the those distributor know themselves they can identify fake from original even with the engraven.

Very easy to identify for those that use/sell them often, some of them are lighter than original cable in weight and with the use magnet.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 5:12pm On Jun 21, 2017
topsy23:


Very easy to identify for those that use/sell them often, some of them are lighter than original cable in weight and with the use magnet.

This is what's useful for me personally. I am not opportune to go to the factory for pick up and cannot trust a third party representative.

How do I recognize original cable in the markets in Ibadan? That's the koko of my matter.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 6:19pm On Jun 21, 2017
EgunMogaji:

This is what's useful for me personally. I am not opportune to go to the factory for pick up and cannot trust a third party representative.
How do I recognize original cable in the markets in Ibadan? That's the koko of my matter.

When you are on ground.. find time to go to factory o. It does not take that long.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by allCopacetic: 7:18pm On Jun 21, 2017
diordaves:


Which browser do you use? I noticed your 'Quote' of Hajji M post included the photo/YouTube video. I know Explorer use to this but since the update of Nairaland, a lot of stuff went downhill. I can't even log in with internet explorer or even Microsoft Edge.
Googe chrome, on a mobile device
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 7:19pm On Jun 21, 2017
mufutau55:


When you are on ground.. find time to go to factory o. It does not take that long.

Hajji M.

I hear you, Sir, and you're right.

There's just something about me and that Nigeria, I can't seem to get as much done when on the ground, even with the best of intentions. It's an energy sucking edifice, that Nigeria.

It doesn't help too that the factories are in Lagos, a city I abhor.

I just wish the factory had direct outlets in other major cities.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by allCopacetic: 7:43pm On Jun 21, 2017
Daboomb:



YOU are an appointed Distributor of ColeMan cables, l think.

Are you saying that even if l or anyone else buys from you, there is no 100% GUARANTEE that you wont sell me something Fake? shocked shocked

Please clarify o!
Abeg, just clarify. undecided
Just like there is no guarantee that every acclaimed Man of God is righteous.
There will be a handful of distributors that will play on both teams, especially if your "Aroro" is too much or your pricing is unrealistic.
Rather than loose the business, they might sell you clones, because they figure that's what you're gonna end up buying at that price anyways. especially where very large volumes are concerned.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 7:46pm On Jun 21, 2017
allCopacetic:

Just like there is no guarantee that every acclaimed Man of God is righteous.
There will be a handful of distributors that will play on both teams, especially if your "Aroro" is too much or your pricing is unrealistic.
Rather than loose the business, they might sell you clones, because they figure that's what you're gonna end up buying at that price anyways. especially where very large volumes are concerned.


Then that is neither a business man nor decent human being, but a shyster and fraudster.

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