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| Re: What Will The Atheists Say After The Rapture? by luvmijeje(f): 6:24am On Jun 23, 2017 |
paxonel: Okayyyyy... .. . I've heard you. But Jesus himself said in Matt 24:30-31 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. Was Jesus lying? |
| Re: What Will The Atheists Say After The Rapture? by luvmijeje(f): 6:27am On Jun 23, 2017 |
obinna58: Go and sit down. |
| Re: What Will The Atheists Say After The Rapture? by obinna58(m): 9:12am On Jun 23, 2017 |
| Re: What Will The Atheists Say After The Rapture? by paxonel(m): 1:31pm On Jun 23, 2017 |
luvmijeje:No! He was not lying, he was saying something entirely different from what we current day Christians think as rapture. Questions we should ask when reading scriptures like these are : 1.To whom was Jesus talking to? Ans:To his disciples who were not yet Christians because the kingdom of God was not established on earth as at that time. 2.when did he made the statement? Ans:shortly before he was crucified, before the kingdom was established. 3.What was he talking about? Ans:He was specifically talking about his crucifixion and resurrection which is actually his power and glory signifying the kingdom of God here on earth(THE WORD CLOUDS SIGNIFIES THE CLORY OF GOD HERE ON EARTH WHICH IS THIS SAME CHRISTIANITY ESTABLISHED BY JESUS THE DAY HE RESURECTED, NOT RAPTURE!!) Remember he was making this statements shorty before he was crucified. And that crucifixion brought salvation which is the Christian religion we are practicing today. Do you now see the correlation? If you think properly you will understand. Unfortunately, we Africans don't think. Anything we pastor talk for church na we dey swallow, so te our neck don hook  . 2 Likes |
| Re: What Will The Atheists Say After The Rapture? by luvmijeje(f): 5:54pm On Jun 23, 2017 |
paxonel: Okayyyyy.. .. .. .. I've more questions. 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. Appearance of Christ in heaven means the resurrection of Christ and the kingdom of God signify the practice of Christianity. 1. But what does Jesus mean when he said, all the tribes of the earth shall see the son of man coming? 2. When Jesus died and resurrected was it recorded anywhere in the Bible that all the tribe of the earth saw him? 3. Who were the people that saw him? 4. If the disciples were not yet a Christian what were they? 5. Define Christianity? 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. 6. When Jesus resurrected, was it recorded in the Bible that there was a great sound of trumpet? 7. If the practice of Christianity signify that rapture have taken place, how come we are not yet gathered in one place? 8. What's the name of your church? 1 Like |
| Re: What Will The Atheists Say After The Rapture? by paxonel(m): 11:36pm On Jun 23, 2017 |
luvmijeje:Intelligent questions!!! 1. What does Jesus meant by all tribes of the earth shall see him coming? He meant, all tribes of the earth shall see Christianity coming the day he will resurrect with power and glory! 2.was all tribes there when he resurrected? No! 3. Few people among his disciples saw him after he resurrected. Therefore, the saying that few people will enter the kingdom of God has come to pass. But that few christians has grown to what is known as the biggest religion today, after 2000 years. Now,google it! What religion of the world has the highest adherents? Now doubt, Christianity! Hence,the parable of the mustard seed has come to pass.right now, all tribes of the earth are mourning. Do you know what it means to be born and groomed in a religion only to realize someday that, that religion is not the way? Jesus says I am the way.. Just like moses lifted up the serpant in the wilderness, so shall the son of man(Christianity) be lifted. Because Jesus founded the Christian faith. Without faith, it is impossible to please God. So, when Jesus was saying all tribes of the earth shall see him, he literally and prophetically meant all tribes of the earth shall hear about Christianity, today very few nations have not heard about Christianity. 4. The disciples were not yet christians until Jesus died and resurrected. Most of them followed him because of the miracles but later ran away when he was about to be crucified. Some of the 12 disciples were converted to follow him by John the Baptist who never saw Christianity before he died, so they were like a transition between Judaism(old covenant)to Christianity(new covenant). So the least person in Christianity is greater than them and John the Baptist and all the prophets of old. 5.Define Christianity? Christianity is simply the faith Jesus established here on earth. It did not start at Antioch o, it only got the name Christianity at Antioch. it started at the day of Pentecost with just 120 disciples. Act 1:15. |
| Re: What Will The Atheists Say After The Rapture? by paxonel(m): 12:18am On Jun 24, 2017 |
luvmijeje:Was it recorded that there was great sound of trumpet when he resurrected? NO!!! It was after the resurrection that he started gathering his elects (not necessarily by means of trumpet but by means of people preaching) at the day of Pentecost starting with 120 believers act 1:15. Today he has gathered billions of people from the 4 corners(all nations) of the earth to be Christians. 7. How come we have not gathered? You are asking this question because you are yet to know that we are already gathered. Billions of christians are still asking this question,Hence, they are waiting. they will keep waiting until they know the truth someday and be free. The point is, we still do not know what Jesus did for us on top of our religioness and church going. We were translated back to the state where God created Adam and Eve without death and sin, and mandate remains, BE FRUIT AND MULTIPLY AND REPLENISH THIS EARTH and not to be raptured to anywhere. White men are developing their world, if you have travelled before, various technology have been invented, life is sweet! And Africa is still lagging behind. Why? We don't take education seriously. 8.what is the name of my church? I belong to the kingdom of God. Catholic, Protestants, winners, redeem, deeper life, alladura, cele, . So long it is church. I'm not a pastor, I'm entertainer, don't want to mention 1 Like |
| Re: What Will The Atheists Say After The Rapture? by luvmijeje(f): 8:50am On Jun 24, 2017 |
paxonel I still have a lot of questions. You said Few people among his disciples saw him after he resurrected. Therefore, the saying that few people will enter the kingdom of God has come to pass 1. The Bible verse you're trying to quote is Many are called but few are choosen. But Jesus said all the tribes of the earth will see him coming. So where was it quoted in the Bible that Jesus called many after he resurrected but it's only few that responded? 2. The disciples were the only people that saw him, does that mean it will be only the disciples that will enter the kingdom of God? You also said that few christians has grown to what is known as the biggest religion today, after 2000 years. Now,google it! What religion of the world has the highest adherents? Now doubt, Christianity! Hence,the parable of the mustard seed has come to pass.right now, all tribes of the earth are mourning. 3. But Jesus said His elect will be gathered together, have Christians gathered together? 4. But you said few will be choosen, but we are having billions and billions of Christians? You also said, when Jesus was saying all tribes of the earth shall see him, he literally and prophetically meant all tribes of the earth shall hear about Christianity, today very few nations have not heard about Christianity. 5. But Jesus, He shall send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. You didn't address this question o. |
| Re: What Will The Atheists Say After The Rapture? by luvmijeje(f): 8:56am On Jun 24, 2017 |
Paxonel 8.what is the name of my church? I belong to the kingdom of God. Catholic, Protestants, winners, redeem, deeper life, alladura, cele, . I'm so happy that you don't belong to any church. I'm also happy you're just an entertainer. May God bless your entertainment ministry. |
| Re: What Will The Atheists Say After The Rapture? by paxonel(m): 2:58pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
luvmijeje:Thanks |
| Re: What Will The Atheists Say After The Rapture? by Nobody: 2:59pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
Jhaytee4all: Wait oo, Is it only Atheists that will be left behind after rapture  |
| Re: What Will The Atheists Say After The Rapture? by paxonel(m): 4:40pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
luvmijeje:1. Exactly, that is the scripture! Many were called to follow him to Jerusalem where he will be crucified, hence there were about 5000 disciples who followed him, who eat bread and fishes he provided miraculously on their way to Jerusalem, But the moment they got to Jerusalem and he was about to be crucified they all ran away, even Peter who promised his royalty to death denied him 3 times. but at the end few disciples were chosen among the crowd. These are the disciples who saw him after his resurrection and they were just 120 out of the over 5000 who followed his on their way to Jerusalem. So Jesus never called many after his resurrection rather he called many before his crucifixion. But before he was crucified, he prophesied using parables that the few people representing Christianity after his resurrection will grow, nobody understood what he was saying until he died and resurected. Luke 13:18-19 Then said he, Unto what is the kingdom of God(Christianity) like? and whereunto shall I resemble it(Christianity)? It(Christianity) is like a grain of mustard seed, which a man(Jesus himself because he founded Christianity) took, and cast into his garden(this earth); and it grew, and waxed a great tree; and the fowls of the air(people of all nations) lodged in the branches of it(Christianity). This was his prophecy, they never understood. 2. It's not that the disciples will enter the kingdom tomorrow, they have already entered the kingdom of God Since 2000 years ago, few of them, and we are already in that kingdom which is Christianity. Think you will understand 3.He used the word gather together as if he was saying parable, gather was a figurative statement which means collection of chrisrians worldwide, not necessarily gathering. 4.Yes, I explained that in question 1,many disciples were called to follow him before the crucifixion but after the crucifixion few of them were able to make it into the kingdom hence few were chosen. Today, that few have grown to billions of people. Luke 13:23-24 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them, Strive to enter in at the strait gate(the gate of Christianity where salvation lies which is the point of crucifixion at Jerusalem because,these people were never yet christians): for many,(among these disciples) I say unto you, will seek to enter(Christianity), and shall not be able. Do you understand it now? He was talking to his disciples at that time, not us this current day Christians, we are already in, we are far better than them. 5. Yes, and i said sound of the trumpet is like a parable in the context of that scripture which literally means to call or gather people into Christianity worldwide by preaching, not necessarily using trumpet. Have you ever read another sound of the trumpet in 1 Corinthians 15:52? That one is a different kind of call entirely in the context of that scripture. Non of these sound of the trumpets was used to represent rapture as asserted by today christians. I will suggest that in your spare time, go back and read the book of Matthew and take it down to revelation, it will help you have a full understanding what the whole new testament is all about |
| Re: What Will The Atheists Say After The Rapture? by luvmijeje(f): 4:49pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
paxonel, 5. Yes, and i said sound of the trumpet is like a parable in the context of that scripture which literally means to call or gather people into Christianity worldwide by preaching, not necessarily using trumpet. As I earlier said, I'm happy you're an entertainer. Please strictly face your entertainment Bussiness. Don't venture into church business o. |
| Re: What Will The Atheists Say After The Rapture? by OtemAtum: 6:30pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
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| Re: What Will The Atheists Say After The Rapture? by Nobody: 8:44pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
PrecisionFx:lol, no. Both the lukewarm christians,athiests,pagans and those whose do not believe jesus as the messiah/christ etc. What are you? |
| Re: What Will The Atheists Say After The Rapture? by Nobody: 8:48pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
gabe:tell that to the "god" you worship! -If you are an atheist, you worship the devil- |
| Re: What Will The Atheists Say After The Rapture? by Nobody: 8:58pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
emmayayodeji:it's not funny but serious! God wants us tp repent and comeout from darkness(spiritually speaking), and doyou know that we are in the time of the father's(God) grace? A time for us to repent b4 the rapture, when therewould be left no grace. The word of God(bible ) tells us "many are called but few are chosen". Only the faithful christians are chosen. Yes, there are many religions to be mentioned about, but christianity shouldn't even be compared. After, the soon-to-happen rapture, you'll know which religion is which! I'm Those who don't know the true and living God are lost. People of this earth really need intercession. Bro, I dnt want to confuse you with words, but just don't strive with God and with human ideas and deception. |
| Re: What Will The Atheists Say After The Rapture? by Nobody: 9:44pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
frank317:how would rapture happen and islam confirmed as the right religion? Think twice. Islam would ony rule the world and infact they would be the cause for the 3rd world war, why? Because they want peace. They want other religion to accept islam as the only religion, because islam is a religion of peace. But they won't gain victory for long. I'll show you the aftermaths event of the rapture sequentially; -Rapture -Great Trubulation(3rd world war and many more, like persecution of the christians) -Antichrist Rule -Second coming of our Lord jesus christ and so on.. Islam would probably rule the world for a mean time (with their so called 'islam terrorist'). 1 Like |
| Re: What Will The Atheists Say After The Rapture? by Nobody: 12:07am On Jun 25, 2017 |
Jhaytee4all: Deist. And mind u I don't want to go to heaven. Now lemme wow u, There's nothing like Rapture in the Bible. 1 Like |
| Re: What Will The Atheists Say After The Rapture? by Nobody: 12:18am On Jun 25, 2017 |
PrecisionFx:really? Where do you want to spend eternity? Well, it's your cup of tea and your choice. I sincerely beg you not to adhere to any deception of the devil. And as for the rapture, here is how it is going to happen according to 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 King James Version (KJV) For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. King James Version (KJV) What else do you need? |
| Re: What Will The Atheists Say After The Rapture? by paxonel(m): 6:48am On Jun 25, 2017 |
luvmijeje:Ofcourse i will not Obviously i will be killed the way Jesus was killed. Others are thriving well as pastors and are making so much money because, they are preaching what people want to hear, not necessarily following every steps of the scripture meticulously to arrive at a logical conclusion. Hence, the economic and social sphere in Africa keeps deteriorating. They are shouting change change but nobody is ready to accept new principles and way of life th ;Dat will change the current mindset of the people. So, I'm so much satisfied seeing nothing is affecting me negatively 1 Like |
| Re: What Will The Atheists Say After The Rapture? by Peejoeee(m): 7:02am On Jun 25, 2017 |
obinna58: U got served! It made it! Glory to God! |
| Re: What Will The Atheists Say After The Rapture? by GeneralOjukwu: 7:03am On Jun 25, 2017 |
They would shout "THANK GOD, all the religious bigots are gone" Pun intended |
| Re: What Will The Atheists Say After The Rapture? by tintingz(m): 7:04am On Jun 25, 2017 |
All these fictitious beliefs. Rapture ko raptor ni. Op, do you think you will escape Islamic rapture version? |
| Re: What Will The Atheists Say After The Rapture? by MrMystrO(m): 7:04am On Jun 25, 2017 |
This Thread is just core sheeple meal. Feast on Guys, Feast on.. 1 Like
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| Re: What Will The Atheists Say After The Rapture? by brunofarad(m): 7:05am On Jun 25, 2017 |
Oh... Shit!!! There really is God!
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| Re: What Will The Atheists Say After The Rapture? by whitebeard(m): 7:06am On Jun 25, 2017 |
gabe:prove it
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| Re: What Will The Atheists Say After The Rapture? by chuks013: 7:06am On Jun 25, 2017 |
0b100100111:
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| Re: What Will The Atheists Say After The Rapture? by mostHandsome01: 7:07am On Jun 25, 2017 |
obinna58:shame on you. |
| Re: What Will The Atheists Say After The Rapture? by bolinjkezzy(m): 7:07am On Jun 25, 2017 |
And my own ex religion believe your kinds will burn in hell(funny abi)....That's the problem with the statement" live your life as though their is God so when you die you have nothing to lose" what if you believe in the wrong god? 3 Likes |
| Re: What Will The Atheists Say After The Rapture? by stacyadams: 7:07am On Jun 25, 2017 |
one bottle of origin for you 0b100100111: 2 Likes |
| Re: What Will The Atheists Say After The Rapture? by willybilly: 7:07am On Jun 25, 2017 |
Jhaytee4all: ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE ATHEISTS THAT SAY THEY DO NOT BELIEVE IN GOD BUT ARE MORALLY UPRIGHT (THEORETICAL ATHEISTS), OR THOSE ATHEISTS THAT PROCLAIM GOD WITH THEIR LIPS BUT WHOSE WORKS PROVE OTHERWISE ( PRACTICAL ATHEISTS)? 1 Like |
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