Schwartz:

So you actually wrote that its only a particular tribe that stays homeless and begs on the streets. I have met naija guys staying at the train station begging for a living plus many other nationalities as well. Go to Hamburg central train station and bring out money from your wallet to pay for a ticket, as soon as you're about to slot in your money into the machine you immediately see (from nowhere two or three guys corner you desperately begging you for money and if your not smart enough your money is gone. Go to Berlin ZOB at every interval there is a public announcement system warning everyone to watch their luggage's and personal items because there are pick pockets around. Go to Bremen central station right infront you find many people sitting on dirty blankets with their dogs begging for food and money. Even in the cold. Breaks my heart to see such. Peole sleep in the train station, on the streets, feed from dustbin. I have seen it countless times. Some stand at the entrance of shops to beg. There are poor people living in abject poverty everywhere including europe and America. American citizens live in homeless shelters too.

I have never read a comment so exaggerated gosh! You are obviously in Nigeria daydreaming of how heavenly abroad looks like. Is scadaniva a country?

I doubt the sanity of that person, read all his previous posts on other threads or click on any thread he created

Pidgin2:


I doubt the sanity of that person, read all his previous posts on other threads or click on any thread he created

Frustrated lady. Go to Yaba left. U need ur head to be examined. But I doubt if there is a brain in that skull of yours. Hence, any medical help offered to u is futile

Schwartz:

So you actually wrote that its only a particular tribe that stays homeless and begs on the streets. I have met naija guys staying at the train station begging for a living plus many other nationalities as well. Go to Hamburg central train station and bring out money from your wallet to pay for a ticket, as soon as you're about to slot in your money into the machine you immediately see (from nowhere two or three guys corner you desperately begging you for money and if your not smart enough your money is gone. Go to Berlin ZOB at every interval there is a public announcement system warning everyone to watch their luggage's and personal items because there are pick pockets around. Go to Bremen central station right infront you find many people sitting on dirty blankets with their dogs begging for food and money. Even in the cold. Breaks my heart to see such. Peole sleep in the train station, on the streets, feed from dustbin. I have seen it countless times. Some stand at the entrance of shops to beg. There are poor people living in abject poverty everywhere including europe and America. American citizens live in homeless shelters too.

I have never read a comment so exaggerated gosh! You are obviously in Nigeria daydreaming of how heavenly abroad looks like. Is scadaniva a country?

Scandinavia is not a country but a term used to refer to a group of countries in Northern Europe. A much more looser term used is Nordic countries. Google it and see the countries that makes up the Nordic or Scandinavian countries.
U dey form say u sabi. I wonder why ask that kind of question if Scandinavia is a country. That sounds very very childish to say the least. Google it to get info

Nigeriadondie:

Frustrated lady. Go to Yaba left. U need ur head to be examined. But I doubt if there is a brain in that skull of yours. Hence, any medical help offered to u is futile

This is only the beginning of what this creepy soul is capable of spewing, set him off and all you get is worse than gutter talk, and this is the kind of person someone will listen to, tufia *spits* same person spends 24 hrs a day on nairaland yet dem dey enjoy europe hahaha

Pidgin2:


Shut your trap, you know nothing with your yahoo yahoo mentality. I'm sure you have never seen cleaners, fishermen, carpenters or drivers whose children are graduates, a driver's son was recently given autimatic employment as a graduate due to his dedication, there's no how one wouldnt find favor if they remain dedicated no matter what they do. Get lost nuisance

Stop bleating like d she goat u re abi u never see grass chop belleful. E dey pepper u for body abi. Clean ur tears dont let it pain u. No let nairaland make u get bp cos no space for mortuary for now.
Relax if u re father be one of those goats eating yams cos he is in d corridor of power his time is about to wound up or if he and Evans dey do Collabo dem go soon catch am.
Should I feed u with u pics of my summer holiday
Life is good here

Pidgin2:


Shut your trap, you know nothing with your yahoo yahoo mentality. I'm sure you have never seen cleaners, fishermen, carpenters or drivers whose children are graduates, a driver's son was recently given autimatic employment as a graduate due to his dedication, there's no how one wouldnt find favor if they remain dedicated no matter what they do. Get lost nuisance

topic of the discussion is about the ills of the country you are talking about driver's children that become successful.Answer my questions(1)can u compare healthcare system in developed countries with the one we have here in Nigerian? (2)can you compare the standard of education of those countries with Nigerian? (3)security?(5)social security system with the one you have in your country? (6) Good roads with the one u ply through everyday?(7)Electricity? (Govt care for old people? etc

Nigeriadondie:

Stop bleating like d she goat u re abi u never see grass chop belleful. E dey pepper u for body abi. Clean ur tears dont let it pain u. No let nairaland make u get bp cos no space for mortuary for now.
Relax if u re father be one of those goats eating yams cos he is in d corridor of power his time is about to wound up or if he and Evans dey do Collabo dem go soon catch am.
Should I feed u with u pics of my summer holiday
Life is good here

The diary of a so-called PHD student abroad, hahaha. If life ils good for you explain why you spend most of it on nairaland?

Viewers watch how this sénile person will mention me throughout this Month if not year, kindly follow both monikers for confimation. Any drug addict will post nonsense for gullible simpletons to décrive themselves with

No mind them. all of them na heavy mumu. Illiteracy dey worry them. Nigerians in diaspora are fond of converting currencies like they live in America or Europe and spend in Nigeria. Someone earning $2,000 monthly in New York is living in hell. Such person should even be better off in Somalia. It is a shame that in 2017 when America and Europe give visa to both palm wine tapper, truck pusher, shoemakers, these folks still see abroad like some kind of paradise. It is always those who haven't achieve anything that have time post here. In America where it will take you over 10 yrs just to raise a 20% down payment for an average house of $200,000 and 62% of Americans are one paycheck away from living from the streets and can't even come up with a merely $500 in an emergency, yet these "Alice in wonder land dreamers" will come here to start claiming success.

youngestland:


You guys please stop converting to naira and compare it just show how low you guys iq is

what is the purchasing power of 400 pounds in uk and what is the purchasing power of 150k nqira in nigeria farrrrr different
when driving your points pls and pls stop converting

ayodele234:
No mind them. all of them na heavy mumu. Illiteracy dey worry them. Nigerians in diaspora are fond of converting currencies like they live in America or Europe and spend in Nigeria. Someone earning $2,000 monthly in New York is living in hell. Such person should even be better off in Somalia. It is a shame that in 2017 when America and Europe give visa to both palm wine tapper, truck pusher, shoemakers, these folks still see abroad like some kind of paradise. It is always those who haven't achieve anything that have time post here. In America where it will take you over 10 yrs just to raise a 20% down payment for an average house of $200,000 and 62% of Americans are one paycheck away from living from the streets and can't even come up with a merely $500 in an emergency, yet these "Alice in wonder land dreamers" will come here to start claiming success.

http://www.aljazeera.com/video/news/2017/04/nigeria-meningitis-outbreak-infects-thousands-170408115856520.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/04/syria-chemical-attack-idlib-province

Mumu dey worry u. In d US do u ve patients on d floor? U wud say d video was videoshopped abi.
Even Syria at war its makeshift clinic are better than many of d govt hospitals in Nigeria. Your govt officials know that is y dey run out abroad just as their kids school abroad. They themselves have no faith in d nation they govern
Get d basics at least.

arena07:
topic of the discussion is about the ills of the country you are talking about driver's children that become successful.Answer my questions(1)can u compare healthcare system in developed countries with the one we have here in Nigerian? (2)can you compare the standard of education of those countries with Nigerian? (3)security?(5)social security system with the one you have in your country? (6) Good roads with the one u ply through everyday?(7)Electricity? (Govt care for old people? etc

She is a dunce an autistic patient if u look at her mouth saliva drips out all over.

Pidgin2:


The diary of a so-called PHD student abroad, hahaha. If life ils good for you explain why you spend most of it on nairaland?

Viewers watch how this sénile person will mention me throughout this Month if not year, kindly follow both monikers for confimation. Any drug addict will post nonsense for gullible simpletons to décrive themselves with

I ve shown u my classroom before. So if u like believe it or not it is at ur peril. I dont want to disclose d name of my school and it location make u no go conjure ur witch
Holiday time girl life is good.
To all d Nigerians on these thread wey know whats up better go dey pursue una but e go dodge Pidgin2 . To those back home and abroad God go bless our hustle. AMEN

Thank God you didn't even bother to dispute the fact that 62% of Americans are one paycheck away from living on the street. Now let's talk like sane people. Even fool knows Nigeria is 100years backward when compared with the United States in terms of infrastructure and standard of living but the bigger fool is the one with such a foolish thinking talking about suffering in America is better than pleasure in Nigeria. I know folks who never step their foot in Benin Republic who can afford to buy a full street in Annapolis and Plano. Go and see what young importers going to China are doing in Lagos. The biggest form of suffering is depression and trust me over half the population of the United States are depressed with a stupid pursuit of elusive capitalist dream that is unattainable due to a system plagued with debt, depression and hard labor.

Nigeriadondie:

http://www.aljazeera.com/video/news/2017/04/nigeria-meningitis-outbreak-infects-thousands-170408115856520.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/04/syria-chemical-attack-idlib-province

Mumu dey worry u. In d US do u ve patients on d floor? U wud say d video was videoshopped abi.
Even Syria at war its makeshift clinic are better than many of d govt hospitals in Nigeria. Your govt officials know that is y dey run out abroad just as their kids school abroad. They themselves have no faith in d nation they govern
Get d basics at least.

ayodele234:
Thank God you didn't even bother to dispute the fact that 62% of Americans are one paycheck away from living on the street. Now let's talk like sane people. Even fool knows Nigeria is 100years backward when compared with the United States in terms of infrastructure and standard of living but the bigger fool is the one with such a foolish thinking talking about suffering in America is better than pleasure in Nigeria. I know folks who never step their foot in Benin Republic who can afford to buy a full street in Annapolis and Plano. Go and see what young importers going to China are doing in Lagos. The biggest form of suffering is depression and trust me over half the population of the United States are depressed with a stupid pursuit of elusive capitalist dream that is unattainable due to a system plagued with debt, depression and hard labor.

U said even a fool knows that Nigeria is 100yrs backward a clear fact that Pidgin2 wud never admit all in d name of blind patroitism. By ur statement Pidgin2 is far more than a fool cos she continually deludes herself that Nigeria can match with these western nations in all respect.
U ve said what I am satisfied with. Thanks

Nigeriadondie:

I ve shown u my classroom before. So if u like believe it or not it is at ur peril. I dont want to disclose d name of my school and it location make u no go conjure ur witch
Holiday time girl life is good.
To all d Nigerians on these thread wey know whats up better go dey pursue una but e go dodge Pidgin2 . To those back home and abroad God go bless our hustle. AMEN

What a lonely life he's living, no wonder hé spends 24hrs a day on nairaland. Do you sée your idea of a good life? Visit to stadium and spread leg until your trouser tear. Nawao, no wonder u dey call yoursef dundie. I juste dey laugh hère, keep enjoying your boring life in isolation you are obviously unwell

Nigeriadondie:

She is a dunce an autistic patient if u look at her mouth saliva drips out all over.

you are right bro,she is a slowpoke

TheEminentLaity:
Really? Mr High IQ. FYI Nigeria is an import based economy almost every meaningful thing you use are imported and you ask a silly question. Is 150k even good enough to live on in Nigeria where you pay for healthcare and basic amenities that you don't get including taxes.

Better read and learn than talk rubbish here. How many people even get 150k jobs? How many people get consistently paid through the year without being owed for months? Didn't the price of food increase by over a 100% since this government came in and you talk about purchasing power

Please I dont like arguing without facts
how much do you spend on your basic essentials of life I mean accomodation, feeding and clothing state them here without lies and i will state mine lets do the maths

and there are lots of people earning 150k and above and very constant in nigeria stop forming stories to justify your leaving nigeria

The west lacks communal living. Everybody is on the run and they never stop. 80% of the time they never get what they are chasing. They might look successful to the average person but when you come close to them you will be surprised to know a large chunk of them are on antidepressants drugs. 1 person commits suicide every 15 minutes in the United States.

Pidgin2:


What a lonely life he's living, no wonder hé spends 24hrs a day on nairaland. Do you sée your idea of a good life? Visit to stadium and spread leg until your trouser tear. Nawao, no wonder u dey call yoursef dundie. I juste dey laugh hère, keep enjoying your boring life in isolation you are obviously unwell

ayodele234:
The west lacks communal living. Everybody is on the run and they never stop. 80% of the time they never get what they are chasing. They might look successful to the average person but when you come close to them you will be surprised to know a large chunk of them are on antidepressants drugs. 1 person commits suicide every 15 minutes in the United States.

yeaaaaa this is very true even my folks talk about this wella

Nigeriadondie:

I ve shown u my classroom before. So if u like believe it or not it is at ur peril. I dont want to disclose d name of my school and it location make u no go conjure ur witch
Holiday time girl life is good.
To all d Nigerians on these thread wey know whats up better go dey pursue una but e go dodge Pidgin2 . To those back home and abroad God go bless our hustle. AMEN

Nice picture! I hope you are a having a great time. Enjoy

Nigeriadondie:

U said even a fool knows that Nigeria is 100yrs backward a clear fact that Pidgin2 wud never admit all in d name of blind patroitism. By ur statement Pidgin2 is far more than a fool cos she continually deludes herself that Nigeria can match with these western nations in all respect.
U ve said what I am satisfied with. Thanks

Drive your point without abusing.....wetin from the beginning to the end why you carry people matter for head like this
I will like to know how you lived in nigeria before you left dont be too hard on yourself bros people are having it well in nigeria leave us alone we know nigeria is far from perfect but we building our own world and we loving it

youngestland:


Please I dont like arguing without facts
how much do you spend on your basic essentials of life I mean accomodation, feeding and clothing state them here without lies and i will state mine lets do the maths

and there are lots of people earning 150k and above and very constant in nigeria stop forming stories to justify your leaving nigeria

That is a fat lie. 150'and above where? Even many who work formgovernment ministries i think GL 7/8 dont earn up to that. Even in d armed forces and security agencies especially d non commisioned ranks dont earn even close to that.
Also with d rising cost of living the take home pay of many cant even take them home.

Nigeriadondie:

That is a fat lie. 150'and above where? Even many who work formgovernment ministries i think GL 7/8 dont earn up to that. Even in d armed forces and security agencies especially d non commisioned ranks dont earn even close to that.
Also with d rising cost of living the take home pay of many cant even take them home.

Nairalanders please come and see the guy you are all liking his comments
How can you say people in Nigeria dont earn steady 150k in Nigeria I'm sure you are joking

Pidgin2:


Your post made me laugh. Do you know how many middle class Nigerians own at least two cars and a driver to go with it? Having a driver, maids, and other domestic staffs here is quite easy unlike it is abroad. Now tell me, assuming i work in a bank, with even a salary of N150,000, i can still afford to pay a driver N25K, a washer man N15K and a maid N15 to N20(or alternatively i can just put her in a cheap school or let her learn a trade) how many middle class indivuals abroad can afford all three permanent staffs at the same time? So there are pluses and minuses everywhere. With that same salary, i can also be granted visas to many other countres abroad , depending on how i package myself. What i'm trying to say is this, Nigeria is not as hard as most people make it seem, our problem is that most people cant see beyond the bridges of their flat noses

Your argument actually unintentionally justifies several other opposing views on the topic. Let me break it down for you:

1. Middle Class Nigeria vs. Middle Class US

You quote N150K as a somewhat comfortable salary I assume for a middle class person in Nigeria and further state that someone who earns N150K can employ a maid, driver etc. Great, that all makes sense. But since when did an army of domestic employees become a universal measure of standard of living? While a middle class person in the US may not be able to afford a maid or a driver, I would definitely argue that they may very well have a standard of living much higher than what the N150K earner has in Nigeria depending on the city they live in as well as their responsibilities. As a middle class earner in the US, you may very well be able to do what several in Nigeria consider as very luxurious e.g. drive a brand new Honda or Toyota.

2. Lower Class Nigeria vs. Lower Class US

Let's talk about the maid that a middle class person can hire with their N150k. That is a supposedly low class, low earning employee in Nigeria right? How much does that person earn? They are barely able to get by and are by most standards poor. They are barely able to pay for life's basic necessities. Now let's look at that person's peer in the US. For sake of simplicity, a maid as well. Even you cannot deny that a maid in a developed country (or a janitor or doorman or whatever equivalent low level position in the US) has a much better standard of living than the maid in Nigeria. In fact the reason most middle class people in the US cannot afford a live in maid or driver is because the wage of those 'low class' employees is beyond what they can afford to pay on a consistent basis.

3. Low Class US vs. Middle Class Nigeria

Depending on unique circumstances and responsibilities, supposedly low class people in the US may live a life equivalent to (or even better) than that of a middle class person in the Nigeria. Mind you, I did not say a rich person in Nigeria. Trust me, I know of several lawyers or lecturers (middle class examples) in Nigeria who can barely afford a decent car. If N150K is your measure of middle class in Nigeria, then trust me, a lot of middle class folks in Nigeria are on par with low class people in developed countries. I once lived, worked and earned in Nigeria so I know exactly what I am talking about. N150K is not a lot of money to live well with.

4. Low Class US vs. Upper Middle Class (or Wealthy) in Nigeria
This is the only domain where your argument is accurate. No one is saying an administrative assistant in the US is equivalent to (or better than) a General Manager in a Nigerian Bank or an oil and gas employee in Nigeria. That does not make sense. If you are pretty successful in Nigeria, you are clearly better off than a low earner here and obviously have no incentive to relocate abroad except you are on track to earn even more.

In summary the major point here is that low class in certain circumstances (e.g. an administrative assistant/secretary) in the US may have a standard of living that is on par with so-called middle class folks (e.g. a lecturer) in Nigeria. They may not be able to afford a maid or driver but those are by no means universal indicators of a high standard of living. Secondly low class in the US (again an admin. assistant) is several times better off than someone in a similar low class position in Nigeria.

Of course there are pluses and minuses everywhere but except you are pretty financially well off in Nigeria, your standard of living is pretty much below what is considered average in a developed country. I am Nigerian and am not celebrating the fact that Nigeria is how it is today but it irritates me when people are delusional about how bad the situation is.

Finally for whoever else is reading, for the last time not every Nigerian in the US or other developed countries is struggling and doing low skilled work with low pay. If you take the legal path, get educated and are prepared to work hard, you can live very very well in the US regardless of where you are originally from. Several Nigerians here are doing just that.

efismikoko:


Nairalanders please come and see the guy you are all liking his comments
How can you say people in Nigeria dont earn steady 150k in Nigeria I'm sure you are joking

U no know English again. Take a statistics of peopele who earn 150k and those who earn less and tell me which is higher. Ask nurses and other health practitioners, engineers and technicians, cashiers at bank counters, drivers, marketers, soldiers,police and other security agents especially NCOs and lower ranks, petrol attendant, teachers in both private and govt schools,if they earn 150k or even some close to it. U know d reality. I guess it is u who is joking. Now that many companies are closing or cutting down staff or reducing pay all in a bid to reduce operational costs. Guy stop dreaming we know what is going on na.

FortuneTeller:


Nice picture! I hope you are a having a great time. Enjoy

Thanks a lot and God bless u more abundantly. Enjoyment go baff u, better go dey pursue. Best wishes

Leave that fücking troll. Her one brain cell cannot even reason the big picture. My neighbour's gateman So the gateman after working for donkey years is at the mercy of his 'madam' for decent healthcare. It's poverty mentality people like pidgin2 that steal the country dry when eventually the see how normal is everywhere else except Nigeria

arena07:
chai look at the gibberish you spewed how many gateman have such opportunity? I wish a f.ool like you can visit teaching hospitals Nationwide to see how ppl are dying everyday due to lack of fund to pay there medical bills..oloriburuku ni e

youngestland:


Drive your point without abusing.....wetin from the beginning to the end why you carry people matter for head like this
I will like to know how you lived in nigeria before you left dont be too hard on yourself bros people are having it well in nigeria leave us alone we know nigeria is far from perfect but we building our own world and we loving it

Well I think it is u carrying people's matter on ur head cos I didnt mention u but PIDGIN2 the most "patriotic Nigerian". If u had read my comments on this and other threads I never insulted anyone even d PIDGIN2 even in my main comment. I did after she did cos she is a ruminant, a bleating she-goat. Open ur eyes well and see how she insults people especially when they refuse to accept her blind argument.
U said u wish to know how I lived before I left Nigeria, it is laughable u want to put that matter on ur head perharps out of lack of what to put on ur head. U said "leave us alone". Who is holding d "us" that should be left alone?

My comment is aimed at letting that PIDGIN realise that our government at all levels have failed us over d years and are still,doing same. They that rule dont even have faith in d country if not they wud not travel out for vacation and medicare, nor wud they send their kids abroad to study.
What happens to Ajaokuta steel complex as well as Osogbo and Aladja steel mills that forbid to operate, what of our refineries that forever forbids to function at optimum capacity? Why import refined crude when even some non oil producing countries have refineries that refine d crude they import rather than import refined one? Think of d jobs that wud ve been created if they were functional?
Where is our only national air carrier Nigerian Airways when Qatar Air that started with just 4 airlines in 1995 now has over 200 aircrafts in its fleet? Do we ve a shipping carrier?
Where are old companies like UAC food, Eleganza, Dunlop, Michelin, textile mills, Peugeot Automobile and other vehicle assembly plants, Bendel Cement company, cotton mills, Ibeto cement and other old companies I now remember with nostalgia. I doubt if u were born then to know that many companies that existed in Nigeria have all packed up. Go to Oba Akran Ikeja close to Guinness HQ u wud see Dunlop taken over by weeds. There are many like that like d steel mill in Kogi. Think of it if all these companies were still existing how many graduates wud ve been taken of d labour market.
What I am saying is that Nigeria shouldnt be this way na. Yes there may be challenges abroad but the basics are there. Has any Nigerian born and living in Nigeria experienced uninterrupted power for just 2 days? I dont think there is and I never did throughout d period I lived there but here I am experiencing 4 yrs of uninterrupted electricity which is a dream for many Nigerians. Pls dont feel insulted.
These are undeniable facts that PIDGIN2 whose name I mentioned not urs has consistently denied.
I bet u that if Nigeria can get even d basics many in d diaspora wud come home, no Nigerian wud risk his life on Meditteranean to go to Europe.
Without insults I ve made my points clear even though u re d one carrying another person's matter on ur own head

Lagbaja425:


Your argument actually unintentionally justifies several other opposing views on the topic. Let me break it down for you:

1. Middle Class Nigeria vs. Middle Class US

You quote N150K as a somewhat comfortable salary I assume for a middle class person in Nigeria and further state that someone who earns N150K can employ a maid, driver etc. Great, that all makes sense. But since when did an army of domestic employees become a universal measure of standard of living? While a middle class person in the US may not be able to afford a maid or a driver, I would definitely argue that they may very well have a standard of living much higher than what the N150K earner has in Nigeria depending on the city they live in as well as their responsibilities. As a middle class earner in the US, you may very well be able to do what several in Nigeria consider as very luxurious e.g. drive a brand new Honda or Toyota.

2. Lower Class Nigeria vs. Lower Class US

Let's talk about the maid that a middle class person can hire with their N150k. That is a supposedly low class, low earning employee in Nigeria right? How much does that person earn? They are barely able to get by and are by most standards poor. They are barely able to pay for life's basic necessities. Now let's look at that person's peer in the US. For sake of simplicity, a maid as well. Even you cannot deny that a maid in a developed country (or a janitor or doorman or whatever equivalent low level position in the US) has a much better standard of living than the maid in Nigeria. In fact the reason most middle class people in the US cannot afford a live in maid or driver is because the wage of those 'low class' employees is beyond what they can afford to pay on a consistent basis.

3. Low Class US vs. Middle Class Nigeria

Depending on unique circumstances and responsibilities, supposedly low class people in the US may live a life equivalent to (or even better) than that of a middle class person in the Nigeria. Mind you, I did not say a rich person in Nigeria. Trust me, I know of several lawyers or lecturers (middle class examples) in Nigeria who can barely afford a decent car. If N150K is your measure of middle class in Nigeria, then trust me, a lot of middle class folks in Nigeria are on par with low class people in developed countries. I once lived, worked and earned in Nigeria so I know exactly what I am talking about. N150K is not a lot of money to live well with.

4. Low Class US vs. Upper Middle Class (or Wealthy) in Nigeria
This is the only domain where your argument is accurate. No one is saying an administrative assistant in the US is equivalent to (or better than) a General Manager in a Nigerian Bank or an oil and gas employee in Nigeria. That does not make sense. If you are pretty successful in Nigeria, you are clearly better off than a low earner here and obviously have no incentive to relocate abroad except you are on track to earn even more.

In summary the major point here is that low class in certain circumstances (e.g. an administrative assistant/secretary) in the US may have a standard of living that is on par with so-called middle class folks (e.g. a lecturer) in Nigeria. They may not be able to afford a maid or driver but those are by no means universal indicators of a high standard of living. Secondly low class in the US (again an admin. assistant) is several times better off than someone in a similar low class position in Nigeria.

Of course there are pluses and minuses everywhere but except you are pretty financially well off in Nigeria, your standard of living is pretty much below what is considered average in a developed country. I am Nigerian and am not celebrating the fact that Nigeria is how it is today but it irritates me when people are delusional about how bad the situation is.

Finally for whoever else is reading, for the last time not every Nigerian in the US or other developed countries is struggling and doing low skilled work with low pay. If you take the legal path, get educated and are prepared to work hard, you can live very very well in the US regardless of where you are originally from. Several Nigerians here are doing just that.

I find it so strange people still think all Nigerians struggle abroad, The average salary for a cleanr in the uk is £1800, overhead max £800.Well I guess its good people sell the notion they are suffering abroad so that people nor go put eye for thier BODY Like that is good.

Lagbaja425:


Your argument actually unintentionally justifies several other opposing views on the topic. Let me break it down for you:

1. Middle Class Nigeria vs. Middle Class US

You quote N150K as a somewhat comfortable salary I assume for a middle class person in Nigeria and further state that someone who earns N150K can employ a maid, driver etc. Great, that all makes sense. But since when did an army of domestic employees become a universal measure of standard of living? While a middle class person in the US may not be able to afford a maid or a driver, I would definitely argue that they may very well have a standard of living much higher than what the N150K earner has in Nigeria depending on the city they live in as well as their responsibilities. As a middle class earner in the US, you may very well be able to do what several in Nigeria consider as very luxurious e.g. drive a brand new Honda or Toyota.

2. Lower Class Nigeria vs. Lower Class US

Let's talk about the maid that a middle class person can hire with their N150k. That is a supposedly low class, low earning employee in Nigeria right? How much does that person earn? They are barely able to get by and are by most standards poor. They are barely able to pay for life's basic necessities. Now let's look at that person's peer in the US. For sake of simplicity, a maid as well. Even you cannot deny that a maid in a developed country (or a janitor or doorman or whatever equivalent low level position in the US) has a much better standard of living than the maid in Nigeria. In fact the reason most middle class people in the US cannot afford a live in maid or driver is because the wage of those 'low class' employees is beyond what they can afford to pay on a consistent basis.

3. Low Class US vs. Middle Class Nigeria

Depending on unique circumstances and responsibilities, supposedly low class people in the US may live a life equivalent to (or even better) than that of a middle class person in the Nigeria. Mind you, I did not say a rich person in Nigeria. Trust me, I know of several lawyers or lecturers (middle class examples) in Nigeria who can barely afford a decent car. If N150K is your measure of middle class in Nigeria, then trust me, a lot of middle class folks in Nigeria are on par with low class people in developed countries. I once lived, worked and earned in Nigeria so I know exactly what I am talking about. N150K is not a lot of money to live well with.

4. Low Class US vs. Upper Middle Class (or Wealthy) in Nigeria
This is the only domain where your argument is accurate. No one is saying an administrative assistant in the US is equivalent to (or better than) a General Manager in a Nigerian Bank or an oil and gas employee in Nigeria. That does not make sense. If you are pretty successful in Nigeria, you are clearly better off than a low earner here and obviously have no incentive to relocate abroad except you are on track to earn even more.

In summary the major point here is that low class in certain circumstances (e.g. an administrative assistant/secretary) in the US may have a standard of living that is on par with so-called middle class folks (e.g. a lecturer) in Nigeria. They may not be able to afford a maid or driver but those are by no means universal indicators of a high standard of living. Secondly low class in the US (again an admin. assistant) is several times better off than someone in a similar low class position in Nigeria.

Of course there are pluses and minuses everywhere but except you are pretty financially well off in Nigeria, your standard of living is pretty much below what is considered average in a developed country. I am Nigerian and am not celebrating the fact that Nigeria is how it is today but it irritates me when people are delusional about how bad the situation is.

Finally for whoever else is reading, for the last time not every Nigerian in the US or other developed countries is struggling and doing low skilled work with low pay. If you take the legal path, get educated and are prepared to work hard, you can live very very well in the US regardless of where you are originally from. Several Nigerians here are doing just that.

U too much. God bless

efismikoko:
You abroad people should please stop deceiving people here with your high earnings when converted to naira
A minimum wage guy in new York is a poor man so is a minimum wage guy in Nigeria

Nigeriadondie.....you earn 750000 in abroad but your house rent and other things cost you 800000 if you have to live well so you result to borrowing is that one life.

If you earn 10% of that amount in Nigeria you can get by bro

I think you are missing out on the real issue, ,everyone has his/her package, there is a life of a single man and a man with wife and kid,.for a single hustler, you can reduce your overhead depends on how you like it and salary still remains same.you can chose to live i n $800 house or $400 house share. and if you are married you do have a combined income.But its kind of hard to explain, you need to live abroad to understand how the system works honestly

StarPlayer:


You people can console yourselves all you want. The fact of the matter is that you work 12hrs a day, 7 days a week for $20 an hour at most, only for the govt to collect everything back in taxes. Bros that is what we call 21st century slavery. Open your eyes and smell the coffee. YOLO

you might be very surprised that Nigerians pay more taxes than people who live in the US and the UK

StarPlayer:
Abegi.. Some of you commenting here are either living in homeless shelters or beging on the streets.. mtcheew

same applies to this one

Kai Nigerians dey Beg in the US for Home video?