I have been offline for a couple of days due to an unusually busy spell on the job within this period especially today with the heart rending accident scene my team and I attended to on the A406 north circular in south woodford and had to assist with stabilising him when we got to the hospital as he suffered major trauma injuries.

However during all this I began to reflect on a few things especially with the set of people I have met and interacted with on this website.

Now this accident occurred in a flash and I am not sure the man in the van knew what happened until it did so definitely did not have the time to make that important phone call to apologise to someone he had offended or to even say some nice words to his kids or wife (assuming they were to be his last).

In my short spell of being on this website I have met with all sorts of people.

The Naive
The outrightly Stupid
The incorrigible
The Toxic
The Repulsive
The Arrogant
The soft spoken
The Smart
The shallow
etc

And then there are those who keep pushing their atheism on people at every turn. Anyway I am in a Chill mood tonight after washing off the blood of someone's husband, friend, brother, father from my hands and boots as has been the practice for quite sometime now and it does cause one to wonder and ponder on a lot of things.

So in order to express my thoughts in a broad way I would need some help from my atheist friends here if they would be willing to assist.

I want them to help me define atheism. I don't know why but it's always bothered me and today more than ever because that middle aged man could have been any of them. So I want to see what makes them tenaciously hold on to whatever it is they claim but would want us to start with its definition then we can go forward.

Can anyone of them help me with this?

I know there is a mainstream definition but that does not make it PERSONAL to you. Can you help me with a definition that makes atheism PERSONAL to you and why you hold it so dearly.

lack of belief in god. simple as that.!

branhampaul:
lack of belief in god. simple as that.!

Are you an atheist? If you are, then is what you wrote personal to your style of atheism and what makes you hold it so dearly?

spacetacular:


Are you an atheist? If you are, then is what you wrote personal to your style of atheism and what makes you hold it so dearly?

You are right, its personal to me. I hold such belief becux there is no reasonable reason to believe in the existence of a religious god.

spacetacular

- Atheism is lack/absence of belief in any god(s) or God-claims.

ScepticalPyrrho:
spacetacular

- Atheism is lack/absence of belief in any god(s) or God-claims.

Are you an atheist and is this definition you gave also personal to you?

spacetacular:


Are you an atheist and is this definition you gave also personal to you?

there is no such thing as personal definition of atheism.
Atheism is simply the lack of belief in God or gods.

NairalandSARS:

there is no such thing as personal definition of atheism.
Atheism is simply the lack of belief in God or gods.

OK so you say just like the others that atheism is simply a lack of belief right?

spacetacular:


OK so you say just like the others that atheism is simply a lack of belief right?

thatz the general definition.

NairalandSARS:

thatz the general definition.

Are you an atheist?

branhampaul:
You are right, its personal to me. I hold such belief becux there is no reasonable reason to believe in the existence of a religious god.

Ok, God created us to worship HIM alone. U think God is like someone like you who does things without a good reason?

Atheism is simply the lack of belief in gods/God

Naturalism: the philosophical belief that everything arises from natural properties and causes, and supernatural or spiritual explanations are excluded or discounted.

Materialism: the theory or belief that nothing exists except matter and its movements and modifications.

definition from Google

Materialiam(awesome) Much more preferred by me

iamgenius:
Ok, God created us to worship HIM alone.

There are 5000+ gods so which god are you talking of?, and why should your god be the right one?.

U think God is like someone like you who does things without a good reason?

what things do I do?

branhampaul:
There are 5000+ gods so which god are you talking of?, and why should your god be the right one?. what things do I do?

Allah is the God I'm talking abt, HE created all that exist. I mean Allah has a purpose HE created us, which HE clearly said in d Quran. HE said: " I didn't create d Jinn and Man except to worship me" Do U believe someone created these heavens and earth and all that are in them?

iamgenius:
Allah is the God I'm talking abt, HE created all that exist. I mean Allah has a purpose HE created us, which HE clearly said in d Quran. HE said: " I didn't create d Jinn and Man except to worship me" Do U believe someone created these heavens and earth and all that are in them?

shut up, you and your imaginary friend called Allah

FSM created all that began to exist

hopefulLandlord:


shut up, you and your imaginary friend called Allah

FSM created all that began to exist

Please let's try and all be nice this morning. I saw no reason for your outburst in his comment.

You are OBVIOUSLY an atheist so tell me your definition of atheism as it applies to you.

I am In the mood for some HEALTHY discussion today.

spacetacular:


Please let's try and all be nice this morning. I saw no reason for your outburst in his comment.

it was not an outburst, I just can't stand people bringing impastas like Yahweh, Allah, Odin etc into discussions about creator God, we all know the one true God is FSM

You are OBVIOUSLY an atheist so tell me your definition of atheism as it applies to you.

I am In the mood for some HEALTHY discussion today.

I've seen several monickers up there give you their own definitions and you've barely had any discussion with them let alone one I can term "healthy"

did you open the thread for some specific monickers?

Spacetacular, you've had enough replies about its (atheism) definition. So, you may now kindly make your intent known to all.

hopefulLandlord:


I've seen several monickers up there give you their own definitions and you've barely had any discussion with them let alone one I can term "healthy"

did you open the thread for some specific monickers?

Those are their own definitions and I would have a general discussion eventually. I do however want yours too since you are already here.

iamgenius:
Allah is the God

pretty much the same way other gods worshippers claim theirs is the true God.

I'm talking abt, HE created all that exist.

Cite a proof he did

I mean Allah has a purpose HE created us, which HE clearly said in d Quran. HE said: " I didn't create d Jinn and Man except to worship me" Do U believe someone created these heavens and earth and all that are in them?

If Allah created us to worship him only, why are some worshipping other gods. Why didn't Allah just make us robotic.. No God created Earth.. Heaven doesn't exist.

DeSepiero:
Spacetacular, you've had enough replies about its (atheism) definition. So, you may now kindly make your intent known to all.

seconded

hopefulLandlord:
FSM created all that began to exist

WTF is fsm?

spacetacular:


Those are their own definitions and I would have a general discussion eventually. I do however want yours too since you are already here.

my definition is already one of the above, so I see no need in me posting the same thing; address them, have "healthy discussions" with them

hopefulLandlord:

shut up, you and your imaginary friend called Allah
FSM created all that began to exist

Did U create urself? What's FSM?

branhampaul:
WTF is fsm?

oh! I already proved FSM is the true God in this thread https://www.nairaland.com/post/54619533

Brahampaul, scepticalpyrrho, obinna58 and Nairalandsars all termed atheism to be A LACK of belief.

Hopefullandlord and Desepiero obviously saw nothing wrong in those positions otherwise I believe they would spoken up. So let me say this in clear terms.

To say you are lacking something means that you want or desire whatever you are lacking. The dictionary defines lack as a "deficiency or absence of something needed, desirable, or customary".

For example I currently lack children. The hungry lack food. The poor lack money. I think you get the idea. So by saying you lack a belief in God or gods, it implies you want to believe in God or gods subconsciously.

My English may be rusty so correct me if what I wrote is wrong based on the definition of atheism you all gave by yourselves which actually depicts your position.

spacetacular:
Brahampaul, scepticalpyrrho, obinna58 and Nairalandsars all termed atheism to be A LACK of belief.

Hopefullandlord and Desepiero obviously saw nothing wrong in those positions otherwise I believe they would spoken up. So let me say this in clear terms.

To say you are lacking something means that you want or desire whatever you are lacking. The dictionary defines lack as a "deficiency or absence of something needed, desirable, or customary".

For example I currently lack children. The hungry lack food. The poor lack money. I think you get the idea. So by saying you lack a belief in God or gods, it implies you want to believe in God or gods subconsciously.

My English may be rusty so correct me if what I wrote is wrong based on the definition of atheism you all have by yourselves which actually depicts your position.

these are meaningless wordgames, you're not WLC, are you?

you lack belief in the pink unicorn, that means you believe in the pink unicorn subconsciously?

please, don't destroy your own thread with inanities

spacetacular:
Brahampaul, scepticalpyrrho, obinna58 and Nairalandsars all termed atheism to be A LACK of belief.

Hopefullandlord and Desepiero obviously saw nothing wrong in those positions otherwise I believe they would spoken up. So let me say this in clear terms.

To say you are lacking something means that you want or desire whatever you are lacking. The dictionary defines lack as a "deficiency or absence of something needed, desirable, or customary".

For example I currently lack children. The hungry lack food. The poor lack money. I think you get the idea. So by saying you lack a belief in God or gods, it implies you want to believe in God or gods subconsciously.

My English may be rusty so correct me if what I wrote is wrong based on the definition of atheism you all have by yourselves which actually depicts your position.

my "lack", I mean "absence" of belief. There is no such 'desire'. Or do you desire to believe in superman?

hopefulLandlord:


these are meaningless wordgames, you're not WLC, are you?

you lack belief in the pink unicorn, that means you believe in the pink unicorn subconsciously?

please, don't destroy your own thread with inanities

I never used the term I LACK BELIEF in any sort of unicorn be it pink or whatever colour. LACK being the operative word. So how can you speak for me when I never said so myself?

NairalandSARS:

my "lack", I mean "absence" of belief. There is no such 'desire'. Or do you desire to believe in superman?

Absence is the fact of not being where you are usually expected to be. Did you know that?

NairalandSARS:

my "lack", I mean "absence" of belief. There is no such 'desire'. Or do you desire to believe in superman?

Absence could also be termed as a fact of NOT EXISTING! So it is a profound knowledge to you that God or gods do not exist.

Can you show me how you arrived at this position?

spacetacular:

To say you are lacking something means that you want or desire whatever you are lacking. The dictionary defines lack as a "deficiency or absence of something needed, desirable, or customary".

Pls, don't select definitions to suit your agenda, Lack means "I don't have". so I don't have god, simple as that..

For example I currently lack children. The hungry lack food. The poor lack money. I think you get the idea. So by saying you lack a belief in God or gods, it implies you want to believe in God or gods subconsciously.

Are you a comedian?, so if I say I "Lack Poverty" does that mean I want Poverty? or if I say I lack evil, does that mean I want evil?.
Stop suiting yourself with whatever you feel like.